Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger



Am 22.12.22 um 22:38 schrieb Dr. David Kirkby:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Trading_Accounts

has a link to a tutorial, but the link is broken.


Thanks to Peters prompt answer
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2022-December/046472.html
the links are fixed now.

Regards
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 at 18:43, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I don't think you'd have separate accounts. But you might want to turn
> on the Trading Accounts feature that can handle adjusting splits for
> multi-currency transactions. (such as getting paid in USD, but the bank
> shows receipt in GBP)
>
> I dare hazard a guess that if your account is denominated in GBP, that's
> all it should be. How the bank handles receipt of other currencies and
> conversions will be a separate exercise for you to have fun with. (where
> turning on Trading Accounts might be helpful)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>

I looked at the trading accounts, but was a bit put off. When I googled the
term, there seemed to be quite different interpretations, and all confused
me. I felt I was going out of my comfort zone.

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Trading_Accounts

has a link to a tutorial, but the link is broken.

Then I see this comment

https://www.reddit.com/r/GnuCash/comments/mf2vdt/trading_accounts_functionality/

about enabling trading accounts in GnuCash added splits to already
reconciled transactions.

Dave
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Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread David Cousens
Dave

This is the crucial step

>"It's the one bank account - I don't have different account numbers for
> different currencies, and can't hold balances in anything other than GBP."

In this case there generally is no need to have an account in another currency.
If you can record all you need by adding a note that the orignal
deposit/withdrawal was so much of another currency at the exchange rate valid at
the time.
 
When I was last travelling on holidays I had a debit card whose balance was
recorded in another currency (SGD) and transactions recorded with it were made
in that currency so it made sense to set up accounts in that currency and record
the transfers from my bank account to itand back when I returned.

When I was working my business credit card was in AUD but I could use it in most
countries around the world and did. The bank did the conversions, added fees etc
so I had no need to maintain accounts for transactions in other currencies I
just recorded my expenses in AUD, usually with a note about the cost in the
original currency (mainly because some were refundable by my employer and I had
to provide receipts and match them to the AUD amounts i was claiming).

When setting up an account structure, I always ask myself what information is it
recording and for what purpose and in what form do I need that information. That
usually sorts out whether I need a specific account or not.

David Cousens

On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 15:56 +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> My Bank is a UK bank, but I sometimes buy things in $HKD, and fairly
> regularly receive payments in USD and EUR in addition to the obvious GBP.
> Should I set up accounts like this? (American's call them checking
> accounts, but we don't here).
> 
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (GBP)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (USD)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (EUR)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (HKD)
> 
> It's the one bank account - I don't have different account numbers for
> different currencies, and can't hold balances in anything other than GBP.
> 
> I initially assumed I needed 4 accounts for 4 currencies, but now I'm
> wondering if I can avoid that complexity, given I can only have a balance
> in GBP.
> 
> Dave
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Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I don't think you'd have separate accounts. But you might want to turn 
on the Trading Accounts feature that can handle adjusting splits for 
multi-currency transactions. (such as getting paid in USD, but the bank 
shows receipt in GBP)


I dare hazard a guess that if your account is denominated in GBP, that's 
all it should be. How the bank handles receipt of other currencies and 
conversions will be a separate exercise for you to have fun with. (where 
turning on Trading Accounts might be helpful)


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/22/22 9:56 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

My Bank is a UK bank, but I sometimes buy things in $HKD, and fairly
regularly receive payments in USD and EUR in addition to the obvious GBP.
Should I set up accounts like this? (American's call them checking
accounts, but we don't here).

Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (GBP)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (USD)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (EUR)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (HKD)

It's the one bank account - I don't have different account numbers for
different currencies, and can't hold balances in anything other than GBP.

I initially assumed I needed 4 accounts for 4 currencies, but now I'm
wondering if I can avoid that complexity, given I can only have a balance
in GBP.


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Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread William Prescott
I am neither an accountant nor particularly expert at GnuCash, though I've used 
it for a dozen years or so. But if I understand what you are saying it sounds 
crazy to me.

I have several bank accounts in USD and several in MXN. I have one account in 
Gnucash for each bank account and the currency is set to whatever currency is 
appropriate. Transactions generally occur with both sides in the same currency. 
The only exceptions are when I transfer money from a bank account in USD to a 
bank account in MXN or visa versa. Then the two sides of the transactions are 
in different currencies and GnuCash asks me about the conversion rate. Or when 
I use an ATM in one country to withdraw cash from a bank in another country. 
This happens mostly when traveling.

You certainly do not need to have multiple Gnucash accounts for a single bank 
account to deal with currency exchanges. Just set the Gnucash bank account to 
GBP and have expense accounts in the other currencies as needed. GnuCash will 
deal with transactions that involve two currencies.

Will

On Dec 22, 2022, at 09:56, Dr. David Kirkby  
wrote:

My Bank is a UK bank, but I sometimes buy things in $HKD, and fairly
regularly receive payments in USD and EUR in addition to the obvious GBP.
Should I set up accounts like this? (American's call them checking
accounts, but we don't here).

Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (GBP)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (USD)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (EUR)
Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (HKD)

It's the one bank account - I don't have different account numbers for
different currencies, and can't hold balances in anything other than GBP.

I initially assumed I needed 4 accounts for 4 currencies, but now I'm
wondering if I can avoid that complexity, given I can only have a balance
in GBP.

Dave
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Re: [GNC] Do I need to set up multiple bank accounts for different currencies?

2022-12-22 Thread Stan Brown
The Tutorial and Concepts Guide has a longish chapter on multiple
currencies. Was that not of help to you?

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2022-12-22 07:56, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> My Bank is a UK bank, but I sometimes buy things in $HKD, and fairly
> regularly receive payments in USD and EUR in addition to the obvious GBP.
> Should I set up accounts like this? (American's call them checking
> accounts, but we don't here).
> 
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (GBP)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (USD)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (EUR)
> Assets: Current Assets: Bank Account (HKD)
> 
> It's the one bank account - I don't have different account numbers for
> different currencies, and can't hold balances in anything other than GBP.
> 
> I initially assumed I needed 4 accounts for 4 currencies, but now I'm
> wondering if I can avoid that complexity, given I can only have a balance
> in GBP.
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