Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-29 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I could be mistaken, but I think a bug report was already filed on this. 
(It may have just been a list discussion though)


I tend to agree. The 'Edit' buttons that appear next to the 
Vendor/Customer and Job do not 'speak' to me as allowing me to edit the 
details of the Vendor/Customer or Job assigned, but rather edit the 
field that contains *which* Vendor/Customer or Job is *assigned* to the 
Invoice/Bill.


I only know these buttons work this way because I've long ago been 
bitten by this poor context. I'm in the same bucket as the others who 
interpreted those buttons differently than the designer(s) intended.


There are other ways to edit those details. I'd vote for removing the 
buttons entirely.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/28/22 8:29 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

At least two of us users have been confused when editing / fixing Vendor or 
Customer field in Invoices or Bills
(and created somewhat of a mess)
I would request for the next GnuCash update:
All fields in the Invoice's "Invoice Information" & "Billing Information" panels,  and in the  Bill's  
"Bill Information" & "Billing Information" panels be
locked, and maybe, grayed out.
That would force using the "Edit Invoice" or "Edit Bill" features in the top 
ribbon, which work exactly as users (at least 2 of us) would expect.

Thank you for the consideration,
Eric



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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-28 Thread Eric Hammond
At least two of us users have been confused when editing / fixing Vendor or 
Customer field in Invoices or Bills
(and created somewhat of a mess)
I would request for the next GnuCash update:
All fields in the Invoice's "Invoice Information" & "Billing Information" 
panels,  and in the  Bill's  "Bill Information" & "Billing Information" panels 
be 
locked, and maybe, grayed out. 
That would force using the "Edit Invoice" or "Edit Bill" features in the top 
ribbon, which work exactly as users (at least 2 of us) would expect. 

Thank you for the consideration,
Eric

Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:02:07 +1000
From: Liz 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 18:13:29 +
Eric Hammond  wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> So this is a "hidden" feature! 
> On the unposted invoice, Billing Information panel, the Customer
> field has an "Edit..." button, which to me means I can select the
> customer. Instead, it only allows altering the Customer information.
> 
> Currently the proper way is to go to the top GnuCash ribbon and
> select "Edit Invoice" which then allows the proper "Customer ...
> Select" option.
> 
> This is very non-intuitive: I can't think of any reason I would want
> to edit the basic Customer information from an invoice. Possibly a
> fix for a later release?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Eric
> 

I had tried to alter an invoice to a different customer and found
myself with a similar problem.
Now I have all of that data under one customer and a customer entry now
called "Reuse me" for next time I have a new customer.

I see Derek said its by design, but it caught me too.
I was not aware that the menu entry "Edit Invoice" had different powers
to choosing "View/Edit Invoice" from a search panel.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-28 Thread Liz
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 18:13:29 +
Eric Hammond  wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> So this is a "hidden" feature! 
> On the unposted invoice, Billing Information panel, the Customer
> field has an "Edit..." button, which to me means I can select the
> customer. Instead, it only allows altering the Customer information.
> 
> Currently the proper way is to go to the top GnuCash ribbon and
> select "Edit Invoice" which then allows the proper "Customer ...
> Select" option.
> 
> This is very non-intuitive: I can't think of any reason I would want
> to edit the basic Customer information from an invoice. Possibly a
> fix for a later release?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Eric
> 

I had tried to alter an invoice to a different customer and found
myself with a similar problem.
Now I have all of that data under one customer and a customer entry now
called "Reuse me" for next time I have a new customer.

I see Derek said its by design, but it caught me too.
I was not aware that the menu entry "Edit Invoice" had different powers
to choosing "View/Edit Invoice" from a search panel.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-27 Thread Derek Atkins

No, this behavior is by design.

-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
On August 27, 2022 14:13:37 Eric Hammond  wrote:


Hi Derek,

So this is a "hidden" feature!
On the unposted invoice, Billing Information panel, the Customer field has 
an "Edit..." button, which to me means I can select the customer.

Instead, it only allows altering the Customer information.

Currently the proper way is to go to the top GnuCash ribbon and select 
"Edit Invoice" which then allows the proper "Customer ... Select" option.


This is very non-intuitive: I can't think of any reason I would want to 
edit the basic Customer information from an invoice.

Possibly a fix for a later release?

Thanks for your help,
Eric



-Original Message-
From: Derek Atkins 
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Eric Hammond 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: RE: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

HI,

You want to make sure you SELECT vendor, not EDIT vendor.
There is a difference!

-derek

On Fri, August 26, 2022 5:30 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:

Thanks Derek,

This worked, but it is really tricky:
Editing the vendor pops up (apparently) the actual Vendor information
"card"
I changed the Vendor name, and found I now had two Vendor cards with
the same name and different ID numbers.
Which showed the wrong Vendor in other Bills.
Thankfully I had not saved the file, so I bailed and tried again.
I discovered that I had to simultaneously change the vendor's name AND
ID to the correct one in the edit form.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Derek Atkins 
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:48 PM
To: Eric Hammond 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

HI,

On Fri, August 26, 2022 3:25 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:

Somehow, I picked the wrong vendor when entering many bills in
GnuCash, and posted them.
I find that Vendor entry in the bill is not changeable, even after
un-posting them.
Is there a way, other than deleting and re-entering them, to correct
this?
Thanks


- Unpost Bill
- Edit Bill (this pops up the dialog similar to the New Bill dialog)
- From there you can select a new Vendor.


Eric



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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-27 Thread Eric Hammond


Hi Derek,

So this is a "hidden" feature! 
On the unposted invoice, Billing Information panel, the Customer field has an 
"Edit..." button, which to me means I can select the customer. 
Instead, it only allows altering the Customer information.

Currently the proper way is to go to the top GnuCash ribbon and select "Edit 
Invoice" which then allows the proper "Customer ... Select" option.

This is very non-intuitive: I can't think of any reason I would want to edit 
the basic Customer information from an invoice.
Possibly a fix for a later release?

Thanks for your help,
Eric



-Original Message-
From: Derek Atkins  
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Eric Hammond 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: RE: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

HI,

You want to make sure you SELECT vendor, not EDIT vendor.
There is a difference!

-derek

On Fri, August 26, 2022 5:30 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> Thanks Derek,
>
> This worked, but it is really tricky:
> Editing the vendor pops up (apparently) the actual Vendor information 
> "card"
> I changed the Vendor name, and found I now had two Vendor cards with 
> the same name and different ID numbers.
> Which showed the wrong Vendor in other Bills.
> Thankfully I had not saved the file, so I bailed and tried again.
> I discovered that I had to simultaneously change the vendor's name AND 
> ID to the correct one in the edit form.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Derek Atkins 
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:48 PM
> To: Eric Hammond 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices
>
> HI,
>
> On Fri, August 26, 2022 3:25 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
>> Somehow, I picked the wrong vendor when entering many bills in 
>> GnuCash, and posted them.
>> I find that Vendor entry in the bill is not changeable, even after 
>> un-posting them.
>> Is there a way, other than deleting and re-entering them, to correct 
>> this?
>> Thanks
>
> - Unpost Bill
> - Edit Bill (this pops up the dialog similar to the New Bill dialog)
> - From there you can select a new Vendor.
>
>> Eric
>
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
> -derek
>
> --
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>de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>
>


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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-26 Thread Derek Atkins
HI,

You want to make sure you SELECT vendor, not EDIT vendor.
There is a difference!

-derek

On Fri, August 26, 2022 5:30 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> Thanks Derek,
>
> This worked, but it is really tricky:
> Editing the vendor pops up (apparently) the actual Vendor information
> "card"
> I changed the Vendor name, and found I now had two Vendor cards with the
> same name and different ID numbers.
> Which showed the wrong Vendor in other Bills.
> Thankfully I had not saved the file, so I bailed and tried again.
> I discovered that I had to simultaneously change the vendor's name AND ID
> to the correct one in the edit form.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Derek Atkins 
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:48 PM
> To: Eric Hammond 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices
>
> HI,
>
> On Fri, August 26, 2022 3:25 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
>> Somehow, I picked the wrong vendor when entering many bills in
>> GnuCash, and posted them.
>> I find that Vendor entry in the bill is not changeable, even after
>> un-posting them.
>> Is there a way, other than deleting and re-entering them, to correct
>> this?
>> Thanks
>
> - Unpost Bill
> - Edit Bill (this pops up the dialog similar to the New Bill dialog)
> - From there you can select a new Vendor.
>
>> Eric
>
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
> -derek
>
> --
>Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>
>


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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-26 Thread Eric Hammond
Thanks Derek,

This worked, but it is really tricky: 
Editing the vendor pops up (apparently) the actual Vendor information "card"
I changed the Vendor name, and found I now had two Vendor cards with the same 
name and different ID numbers.
Which showed the wrong Vendor in other Bills.
Thankfully I had not saved the file, so I bailed and tried again.
I discovered that I had to simultaneously change the vendor's name AND ID to 
the correct one in the edit form.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Derek Atkins  
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:48 PM
To: Eric Hammond 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

HI,

On Fri, August 26, 2022 3:25 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> Somehow, I picked the wrong vendor when entering many bills in 
> GnuCash, and posted them.
> I find that Vendor entry in the bill is not changeable, even after 
> un-posting them.
> Is there a way, other than deleting and re-entering them, to correct this?
> Thanks

- Unpost Bill
- Edit Bill (this pops up the dialog similar to the New Bill dialog)
- From there you can select a new Vendor.

> Eric

> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

-derek

-- 
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   de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
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Re: [GNC] Fixing incorrect Vendor for invoices

2022-08-26 Thread Derek Atkins
HI,

On Fri, August 26, 2022 3:25 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> Somehow, I picked the wrong vendor when entering many bills in GnuCash,
> and posted them.
> I find that Vendor entry in the bill is not changeable, even after
> un-posting them.
> Is there a way, other than deleting and re-entering them, to correct this?
> Thanks

- Unpost Bill
- Edit Bill (this pops up the dialog similar to the New Bill dialog)
- From there you can select a new Vendor.

> Eric

> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

-derek

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