Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9

[Jürgen Jatzkowski via gnucash-user]

Christopher,

happy easter holidays and sorry for my late answer.

I changed as you recommended and the report is working like a charm again.

Thanks a lot!

Jürgen

Am So., 5. Apr. 2020 um 13:47 Uhr schrieb Christopher Lam <
christopher@gmail.com>:

> Apologies for this bug. If you are able please modify eguile-utilities.scm
> within the GnuCash.app and modify the following line:
>
> From: ((_ x . _) x)
> To:   ((_ x . y) x)
>
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 14:39, Christopher Lam 
> wrote:
>
>> Please file a bug on bugs.gnucash.org
>> Meanwhile the (Experimental) Multicolumn Balance Sheet is likely to be
>> very capable of generating a useful report.
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 13:28, jjatzkowski  wrote:
>>
>>> I just upgraded to GnuCash 3.9 on (MacOS; Catalina 10.15.3).
>>>
>>> Version: 3.9
>>> Build ID: 3.9+(2020-03-28)
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the eguile report (in menu "Berichte/Aktiva&Passiva/Bilanz
>>> mit
>>> eguile)  doesn't work any longer and throws an error which you can see
>>> below.
>>>
>>> Question: is this something which is known - I couldn't find any hints on
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Help is really highly appreciated :)
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Bilanz (mit »eguile«) 31.12.2020
>>>
>>> Fehler aufgetreten beim Verarbeiten der Vorlage:
>>>
>>> In c-interface.scm:
>>> 64:23 19 (gnc:backtrace-if-exception _ . _)
>>>  22:4 18 (gnc:call-with-error-handling _ _)
>>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>>> 829:9 17 (catch _ _ # …)
>>> In c-interface.scm:
>>> 26:40 16 (_)
>>> In report.scm:
>>>780:24 15 (_)
>>>756:25 14 (gnc:report-render-html #< type: 2e3751edeb754…> …)
>>> In balsheet-eg.scm:
>>>611:15 13 (balsheet-renderer _)
>>> In ice-9/ports.scm:
>>> 550:4 12 (call-with-output-string _)
>>> 474:4 11 (with-output-to-port _ _)
>>> 470:4 10 (with-input-from-port _ _)
>>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>>> 829:9  9 (catch _ _ # …)
>>> In eguile-gnc.scm:
>>> 189:8  8 (eval-input)
>>> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>>> 619:8  7 (_ #(#(#(#(#) …) …) …))
>>> 619:8  6 (_ #(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(…) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …))
>>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>>>260:13  5 (for-each # …)
>>> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>>> 619:8  4 (_ #(#(#(# …) …) …))
>>> 619:8  3 (_ #(#(#(#) …) …))
>>> In eguile-html-utilities.scm:
>>> 56:11  2 (empty-cells _)
>>> 41:15  1 (string-repeat _ _)
>>> In unknown file:
>>>0 (make-list -1 "")
>>>
>>> Value out of range 0 to 4294967295: -1
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 8 april 2020 09:46:56 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger:
> Hi F,
> 
> Am 08.04.20 um 09:17 schrieb F:
> > Thank you Geert!
> > 
> > There are a lot of errors, most of them - "source file newer than
> > compiled".
> > 
> > I have attached the output below.
> > 
> > 
> > dfg@HP2760p:~$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto stdout
> > 
> > (process:13771): flatpak-WARNING **: 10:00:16.922: Error writing
> > credentials to socket: Error sending message: Broken pipe
> > ;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm
> > ;;;   newer than compiled
> > /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/psyntax-pp.go
> 
> flatpak run --command=sh org.gnucash.GnuCash
> 
> locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
> and remove the whole content
> 
> on the next start guile will compile them again.
> 
> Geert, I wonder if there is a hook, where we can do it, if the user
> updated the package.
> 
There is no runtime hook to do this. As I wrote in my other reply, at sandbox 
startup all of /app/
lib is mounted read-only. There is no way a command run later in that sandbox 
can make any 
change at all to /app/lib.

The only way to fix it is before the flatpak starts. I have filed an issue 
upstream with flatpak 
itself, but so far there has been no answer
https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3064

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 8 april 2020 15:34:59 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 08.04.20 um 13:49 schrieb F:
> > Hello Frank,
> > 
> > []$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
> > 
> > 📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$  locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
> > 📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$
> 
> That was not meant as a command.
> 
> > I do not understand why I need the first and second commands.
> > 
> > Manually I cannot find that path.
> 
> On my machine i have one at
> /home/frank/.local/share/flatpak/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/current/active/file
> s/lib/guile/2.2/ccache
> 
> Because I am not absolutely sure, you should better move the content to
> another place.
> 
> Frank

Removing these files is a bad idea and the commands given are unlikely to be 
able to do so. The 
directory is read only in flatpak run mode.

You are probably running into this bug:
https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/issues/24

We still haven't been able to pin-point why this sometimes happens.

You can work around this issue by executing a couple of commands.

However you first have to figure out where the flatpaks are installed on your 
system. This can 
be in your user home directory or system-wide.

To determine this, look for a directory named "org.gnucash.GnuCash" in either
/var/lib/flatpak/app
or

$HOME/.local/share/flatpak/app

Then in a terminal window cd into the org.gnucash.GnuCash directory you found 
and run the 
following command:

find . -name '*.go' -exec touch '{}' ';'

Mind the quotes, they are important.
With this your next run or the gnucash flatpak should no longer try to 
recompile all the guile 
sources.

What remains is a command to cleanup earlier recompile attempts to prevent 
future updates 
from tripping over those:

rm -fr $HOME/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/cache/guile $HOME/.cache/guile
Please let us know if this helps.


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi,

Am 08.04.20 um 13:49 schrieb F:
> Hello Frank,
> 
> []$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
> 
> 📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$  locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
> 📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$

That was not meant as a command.

> I do not understand why I need the first and second commands.
> 
> Manually I cannot find that path.

On my machine i have one at
/home/frank/.local/share/flatpak/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/current/active/files/lib/guile/2.2/ccache

Because I am not absolutely sure, you should better move the content to
another place.

Frank
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[F]

Hello Frank,

[]$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash

📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$  locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
📦 org.gnucash.GnuCash ~]$

I do not understand why I need the first and second commands.

Manually I cannot find that path.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 10:46, Frank H. Ellenberger <
frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi F,
>
> Am 08.04.20 um 09:17 schrieb F:
> > Thank you Geert!
> >
> > There are a lot of errors, most of them - "source file newer than
> compiled".
> >
> > I have attached the output below.
> >
> >
> > dfg@HP2760p:~$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto stdout
> >
> > (process:13771): flatpak-WARNING **: 10:00:16.922: Error writing
> > credentials to socket: Error sending message: Broken pipe
> > ;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm
> > ;;;   newer than compiled
> /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/psyntax-pp.go
>
>
> flatpak run --command=sh org.gnucash.GnuCash
>
> locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
> and remove the whole content
>
> on the next start guile will compile them again.
>
> Geert, I wonder if there is a hook, where we can do it, if the user
> updated the package.
>
> Regards
> Frank
>


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi F,

Am 08.04.20 um 09:17 schrieb F:
> Thank you Geert!
> 
> There are a lot of errors, most of them - "source file newer than compiled".
> 
> I have attached the output below.
> 
> 
> dfg@HP2760p:~$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto stdout
> 
> (process:13771): flatpak-WARNING **: 10:00:16.922: Error writing
> credentials to socket: Error sending message: Broken pipe
> ;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm
> ;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/psyntax-pp.go


flatpak run --command=sh org.gnucash.GnuCash

locate /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/
and remove the whole content

on the next start guile will compile them again.

Geert, I wonder if there is a hook, where we can do it, if the user
updated the package.

Regards
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[F]

Thank you Geert!

There are a lot of errors, most of them - "source file newer than compiled".

I have attached the output below.


dfg@HP2760p:~$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto stdout

(process:13771): flatpak-WARNING **: 10:00:16.922: Error writing
credentials to socket: Error sending message: Broken pipe
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/psyntax-pp.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/psyntax-pp.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/deprecated.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/deprecated.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/deprecated.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/deprecated.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/threads.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/threads.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/threads.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/threads.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/control.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/control.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/control.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/control.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/futures.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/futures.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/futures.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/futures.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/srfi/srfi-1.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/srfi/srfi-1.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/srfi/srfi-1.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/srfi/srfi-1.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/srfi/srfi-9.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/srfi/srfi-9.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/srfi/srfi-9.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/srfi/srfi-9.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/ports.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/ports.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/ports.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/ports.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/message.scm
;;;   newer than compiled
/app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/base/message.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/message.scm
;;;   newer than compiled
/app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/base/message.go
;;; note: auto-compilation is enabled, set GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0
;;;   or pass the --no-auto-compile argument to disable.
;;; compiling /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/message.scm
;;; WARNING: compilation of /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/message.scm
failed:
;;; In procedure variable-ref: variable is unbound: #>
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/vm/vm.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/vm/vm.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/vm/vm.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/vm/vm.go
;;; compiling /app/share/guile//2.2/system/vm/vm.scm
;;; WARNING: compilation of /app/share/guile//2.2/system/vm/vm.scm failed:
;;; In procedure variable-ref: variable is unbound: #>
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/regex.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/regex.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/regex.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/regex.go
;;; compiling /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/regex.scm
;;; WARNING: compilation of /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/regex.scm failed:
;;; In procedure variable-ref: variable is unbound: #>
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/pmatch.scm
;;;   newer than compiled
/app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/base/pmatch.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/pmatch.scm
;;;   newer than compiled
/app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/system/base/pmatch.go
;;; compiling /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/pmatch.scm
;;; WARNING: compilation of /app/share/guile//2.2/system/base/pmatch.scm
failed:
;;; In procedure variable-ref: variable is unbound: #>
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/receive.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/receive.go
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/receive.scm
;;;   newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/ccache/ice-9/receive.go
;;; compiling /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/receive.scm
;;; WARNING: compilation of /app/share/guile//2.2/ice-9/receive.scm failed:
;;; In procedure variable-ref: variable is unbound: #>
;;; note: source file /app/share/guile//2.2/system/vm/program.scm
;;;

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Adrien Monteleone]

Geert offered the command(s). Try that first.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 1:55 PM, Finfort  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Adrien.
> Maybe it is better to build it myself from the last source?
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2020 at 21:38,  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s why I mentioned ’flatpak specifics’. Search for 'how to launch a 
>> flatpak app from the command line'. Sorry, I don’t use them so I don’t know 
>> the syntax right-off.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> > On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 1:26 PM, Finfort  wrote:
>> >  
>> > Thank you, but what is the command to start it?
>> > Just "gnucash" does not work...
>> >  
>> >  
>> >> On Apr 7, 2020 at 19:36,  wrote:
>> >>  
>> >> Not sure about Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command 
>> >> line and see if there is any output that lends some clues.
>> >>  
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Adrien
>> >>  
>> >> > On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfort  wrote:
>> >> >   
>> >> >   
>> >> >   
>> >> >   
>> >> > Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 19.10 
>> >> > when starting. After that shows it’s logo,boots and works normally.
>> >> >   
>> >> > Sometimes it freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is 
>> >> > only cold restart.
>> >> >   
>> >> >   
>> >> >   
>> >> > Does anybody have the same problem?


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Finfort]

  
  

 Thank you Adrien.
  
Maybe it is better to build it myself from the last source?
  

  
  

  
  
>   
> On Apr 7, 2020 at 21:38,   (mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  That’s why I mentioned ’flatpak specifics’. Search for 'how to launch a 
> flatpak app from the command line'. Sorry, I don’t use them so I don’t know 
> the syntax right-off. Regards, Adrien  >  On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 1:26 PM, 
> Finfortwrote:  >   >  Thank you, but what is the 
> command to start it?  >  Just "gnucash" does not work...  >   >   >>  On Apr 
> 7, 2020 at 19:36,wrote:  >>   >>  Not sure about 
> Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command line and see if 
> there is any output that lends some clues.  >>   >>  Regards,  >>  Adrien  >> 
>   >>   >  On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfort
> wrote:  >>   >   >>   >   >>   >   >>   >   >>   >  Gnucash 3.9 Flathub 
> stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 19.10 when starting. After that 
> shows it’s logo, boots and works normally.  >>   >   >>   >  Sometimes it 
> freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is only cold restart. 
>  >>   >   >>   >   >>   >   >>   >  Does anybody have the same problem? 
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Geert Janssens]

Try

flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash

Or even better

flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto stdout

The latter will print all logs to the console rather than to an inaccessible 
trace file.

Regards,

Geert

Op dinsdag 7 april 2020 20:31:55 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> That’s why I mentioned ’flatpak specifics’. Search for 'how to launch a
> flatpak app from the command line'. Sorry, I don’t use them so I don’t know
> the syntax right-off.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 1:26 PM, Finfort  wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you, but what is the command to start it?
> > Just "gnucash" does not work...
> > 
> >> On Apr 7, 2020 at 19:36,  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Not sure about Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command
> >> line and see if there is any output that lends some clues.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >> 
> >> > On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfort  wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 19.10
> >> > when starting. After that shows it’s logo,boots and works
> >> > normally.
> >> > 
> >> > Sometimes it freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is
> >> > only cold restart.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Does anybody have the same problem?
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Adrien Monteleone]

That’s why I mentioned ’flatpak specifics’. Search for 'how to launch a flatpak 
app from the command line'. Sorry, I don’t use them so I don’t know the syntax 
right-off.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 1:26 PM, Finfort  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, but what is the command to start it?
> Just "gnucash" does not work...
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2020 at 19:36,  wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure about Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command line 
>> and see if there is any output that lends some clues.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> > On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfort  wrote:
>> >  
>> >  
>> >  
>> >  
>> > Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 19.10 when 
>> > starting. After that shows it’s logo,boots and works normally.
>> >  
>> > Sometimes it freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is 
>> > only cold restart.
>> >  
>> >  
>> >  
>> > Does anybody have the same problem?


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Finfort]

  
  

 Thank you, but what is the command to start it?
  
Just "gnucash" does not work...
  

  
  

  
  
>   
> On Apr 7, 2020 at 19:36,   (mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  Not sure about Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command line 
> and see if there is any output that lends some clues. Regards, Adrien  >  On 
> Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfortwrote:  >   >   
> >   >   >  Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 
> 19.10 when starting. After that shows it’s logo, boots and works normally.  > 
>   >  Sometimes it freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is 
> only cold restart.  >   >   >   >  Does anybody have the same problem? 
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks

[Adrien Monteleone]

Not sure about Flatpak specifics, but I would start it from the command line 
and see if there is any output that lends some clues.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 7, 2020 w15d98, at 6:28 AM, Finfort  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gnucash 3.9 Flathub stucks for about 5 minutes on Ubuntu 18.04, 19.10 when 
> starting. After that shows it’s logo,boots and works normally.
> 
> Sometimes it freezes all the system when starting and all you can do is only 
> cold restart.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anybody have the same problem?


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9

[Christopher Lam]

Apologies for this bug. If you are able please modify eguile-utilities.scm
within the GnuCash.app and modify the following line:

From: ((_ x . _) x)
To:   ((_ x . y) x)

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 14:39, Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> Please file a bug on bugs.gnucash.org
> Meanwhile the (Experimental) Multicolumn Balance Sheet is likely to be
> very capable of generating a useful report.
>
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 13:28, jjatzkowski  wrote:
>
>> I just upgraded to GnuCash 3.9 on (MacOS; Catalina 10.15.3).
>>
>> Version: 3.9
>> Build ID: 3.9+(2020-03-28)
>>
>> Unfortunately the eguile report (in menu "Berichte/Aktiva&Passiva/Bilanz
>> mit
>> eguile)  doesn't work any longer and throws an error which you can see
>> below.
>>
>> Question: is this something which is known - I couldn't find any hints on
>> this?
>>
>> Help is really highly appreciated :)
>>
>> 
>>
>> Bilanz (mit »eguile«) 31.12.2020
>>
>> Fehler aufgetreten beim Verarbeiten der Vorlage:
>>
>> In c-interface.scm:
>> 64:23 19 (gnc:backtrace-if-exception _ . _)
>>  22:4 18 (gnc:call-with-error-handling _ _)
>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>> 829:9 17 (catch _ _ # …)
>> In c-interface.scm:
>> 26:40 16 (_)
>> In report.scm:
>>780:24 15 (_)
>>756:25 14 (gnc:report-render-html #< type: 2e3751edeb754…> …)
>> In balsheet-eg.scm:
>>611:15 13 (balsheet-renderer _)
>> In ice-9/ports.scm:
>> 550:4 12 (call-with-output-string _)
>> 474:4 11 (with-output-to-port _ _)
>> 470:4 10 (with-input-from-port _ _)
>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>> 829:9  9 (catch _ _ # …)
>> In eguile-gnc.scm:
>> 189:8  8 (eval-input)
>> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>> 619:8  7 (_ #(#(#(#(#) …) …) …))
>> 619:8  6 (_ #(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(…) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …))
>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>>260:13  5 (for-each # …)
>> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>> 619:8  4 (_ #(#(#(# …) …) …))
>> 619:8  3 (_ #(#(#(#) …) …))
>> In eguile-html-utilities.scm:
>> 56:11  2 (empty-cells _)
>> 41:15  1 (string-repeat _ _)
>> In unknown file:
>>0 (make-list -1 "")
>>
>> Value out of range 0 to 4294967295: -1
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.9

[Christopher Lam]

Please file a bug on bugs.gnucash.org
Meanwhile the (Experimental) Multicolumn Balance Sheet is likely to be very
capable of generating a useful report.

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 13:28, jjatzkowski  wrote:

> I just upgraded to GnuCash 3.9 on (MacOS; Catalina 10.15.3).
>
> Version: 3.9
> Build ID: 3.9+(2020-03-28)
>
> Unfortunately the eguile report (in menu "Berichte/Aktiva&Passiva/Bilanz
> mit
> eguile)  doesn't work any longer and throws an error which you can see
> below.
>
> Question: is this something which is known - I couldn't find any hints on
> this?
>
> Help is really highly appreciated :)
>
> 
>
> Bilanz (mit »eguile«) 31.12.2020
>
> Fehler aufgetreten beim Verarbeiten der Vorlage:
>
> In c-interface.scm:
> 64:23 19 (gnc:backtrace-if-exception _ . _)
>  22:4 18 (gnc:call-with-error-handling _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 829:9 17 (catch _ _ # …)
> In c-interface.scm:
> 26:40 16 (_)
> In report.scm:
>780:24 15 (_)
>756:25 14 (gnc:report-render-html #< type: 2e3751edeb754…> …)
> In balsheet-eg.scm:
>611:15 13 (balsheet-renderer _)
> In ice-9/ports.scm:
> 550:4 12 (call-with-output-string _)
> 474:4 11 (with-output-to-port _ _)
> 470:4 10 (with-input-from-port _ _)
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 829:9  9 (catch _ _ # …)
> In eguile-gnc.scm:
> 189:8  8 (eval-input)
> In ice-9/eval.scm:
> 619:8  7 (_ #(#(#(#(#) …) …) …))
> 619:8  6 (_ #(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(#(…) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …) …))
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>260:13  5 (for-each # …)
> In ice-9/eval.scm:
> 619:8  4 (_ #(#(#(# …) …) …))
> 619:8  3 (_ #(#(#(#) …) …))
> In eguile-html-utilities.scm:
> 56:11  2 (empty-cells _)
> 41:15  1 (string-repeat _ _)
> In unknown file:
>0 (make-list -1 "")
>
> Value out of range 0 to 4294967295: -1
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Christopher Lam]

No, the budget editor is still buggy. This is why we really need beta
testers.

On Thu, 2 Apr 2020, 3:38 am Adrien Monteleone, <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I get the same thing. Looks like a bug in the Budget Report then. I’m
> going to hazard that perhaps rather than budgeting a single amount with a
> sign, the module should allow for budgeting debits and credits separately.
> That way there is never a sign confusion or an issue with the reverse
> balance accounts setting. But that would require a major re-write of the
> Budget Module. It is probably easier to fix the report.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Apr 1, 2020 w14d92, at 10:24 AM, Phil Longstaff <
> phil.longst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > True. However, the problem is that the budget report shows a payment to a
> > liability as negative. So, unless the budget amount is also negative, the
> > "diff" column is incorrect.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:12 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Negative from the perspective of the source account, not from the
> >> perspective of the liability. The same is true of expenses.
> >>
> >> In the budget module, your amounts should all be positive for
> >> savings(assets), income, expenses and payments on liabilities.
> >>
> >> 1. Budget your income
> >> 2. Budget the following based on priorities
> >>  a. Expenses
> >>  b. Liability Payments
> >>  c. Savings (or other asset acquisitions)
> >> 3. Enter every number as positive
> >>
> >> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted increases when you
> budget
> >> positive income.
> >> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted decreases when you
> budget
> >> positive anything else.
> >>
> >> I just tested this on 3.9 and it works as expected.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >>> On Mar 31, 2020 w14d91, at 8:45 PM, Long 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jim,
> >>>
> >>> When you made a payment to liability, the amount are negative.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I get the same thing. Looks like a bug in the Budget Report then. I’m going to 
hazard that perhaps rather than budgeting a single amount with a sign, the 
module should allow for budgeting debits and credits separately. That way there 
is never a sign confusion or an issue with the reverse balance accounts 
setting. But that would require a major re-write of the Budget Module. It is 
probably easier to fix the report.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 1, 2020 w14d92, at 10:24 AM, Phil Longstaff  
> wrote:
> 
> True. However, the problem is that the budget report shows a payment to a
> liability as negative. So, unless the budget amount is also negative, the
> "diff" column is incorrect.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:12 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
>> Negative from the perspective of the source account, not from the
>> perspective of the liability. The same is true of expenses.
>> 
>> In the budget module, your amounts should all be positive for
>> savings(assets), income, expenses and payments on liabilities.
>> 
>> 1. Budget your income
>> 2. Budget the following based on priorities
>>  a. Expenses
>>  b. Liability Payments
>>  c. Savings (or other asset acquisitions)
>> 3. Enter every number as positive
>> 
>> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted increases when you budget
>> positive income.
>> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted decreases when you budget
>> positive anything else.
>> 
>> I just tested this on 3.9 and it works as expected.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2020 w14d91, at 8:45 PM, Long 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>> When you made a payment to liability, the amount are negative.
>>> 
>>> Regards


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Phil Longstaff]

True. However, the problem is that the budget report shows a payment to a
liability as negative. So, unless the budget amount is also negative, the
"diff" column is incorrect.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:12 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Negative from the perspective of the source account, not from the
> perspective of the liability. The same is true of expenses.
>
> In the budget module, your amounts should all be positive for
> savings(assets), income, expenses and payments on liabilities.
>
> 1. Budget your income
> 2. Budget the following based on priorities
>   a. Expenses
>   b. Liability Payments
>   c. Savings (or other asset acquisitions)
> 3. Enter every number as positive
>
> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted increases when you budget
> positive income.
> Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted decreases when you budget
> positive anything else.
>
> I just tested this on 3.9 and it works as expected.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Mar 31, 2020 w14d91, at 8:45 PM, Long 
> wrote:
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > When you made a payment to liability, the amount are negative.
> >
> > Regards
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Negative from the perspective of the source account, not from the perspective 
of the liability. The same is true of expenses.

In the budget module, your amounts should all be positive for savings(assets), 
income, expenses and payments on liabilities.

1. Budget your income
2. Budget the following based on priorities
  a. Expenses
  b. Liability Payments
  c. Savings (or other asset acquisitions)
3. Enter every number as positive

Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted increases when you budget 
positive income.
Observe that the total remaining to be budgeted decreases when you budget 
positive anything else.

I just tested this on 3.9 and it works as expected.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 31, 2020 w14d91, at 8:45 PM, Long  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> When you made a payment to liability, the amount are negative.
> 
> Regards 

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Long]

Jim,

When you made a payment to liability, the amount are negative.

Regards 



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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 still has problems with Budget ?

[Jim Passmore]

Long,
Just started to look at 3.9 myself.  There have been some updates to the
budgeting module and it looks like you should now enter outflows to credit
cards and similar accounts as positive.  In that case, I think your
remaining amount will be zero.  Putting in a negative "outflow" to
liability is like taking a $100 cash advance.  You then have $200 to budget
(the remaining $100 from your paycheck and the $100 cash advance).


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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 8:51 PM Long  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm using spreadsheet to budget.
>
> My Picture :  budget-3.png
> 
>
> In this picture, you will see that my income about 1000$, and i assume that
> i need to pay 900$ for foods or something else let me alive. And i saw that
> i still have 100$ left to use, and i want to make a payment for my credit
> card.
>
> And in this case : GnuCash Budget show me the wrong value.
> 1 - If i only have 100$ left, when i pay my debt, remaining to budget show
> be zero.
> 2 - If i want to loan more money, remaining to budget show be the amount of
> my money left + money i borrowed.
>
> By the way, for the GnuCash's Budget, I won't and maybe in the future i
> still won't Never use it. Because, for use it for your life, it's very
> hard and much work to do more than budget your money with spreadsheet, So
> if
> it is a bug and you are using this feature, you should report to them.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.9 Released

[Chris Graves]

Devs,

Once again, thanks for all the hard work on this release.  Lots of squashed 
bugs.

Chris
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