Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-05 Thread Peter Wu 
Thanks Jean.

If you are using BofA business credit card, there are few keys and rows you 
need to delete.  There maybe more, but here is what we know so far:



MERCHCAT

EXPCAT

CARDNUM

CARDNAME

MCC

Protip, use visual studio code to edit qfx.  Find the word, highlight the 
selection ctl+shift+L, ctl+I to edit multiple lines and delete all occurrences 
with few strokes.
(Search how to delete multiple lines VScode.)

I filed a bug with libOfx to handle this better.

For Gnucash communities, do you think we could use above fields to better match 
transactions?  Content for above fields are like:
COMM. SPORTS, PROF. SPORTS CLUBS, ATHLETIC FI
Amusement and Entertainment
 9767
 ELExxx xxx LLC

I am not sure what MCC is, but other fields are self explanatory.

Best,
Peter

From: Jean L 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 22:09
To: Peter Wu , gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher

You launch GC with the --debug flag. If you're on MacOS, you have to go to a 
console, find the path to your Gnucash, then do 
GnucashApp/contents/MacOs/Gnucash/Gnucash --debug (from memory, so I'm sure 
some of this is wrong)

Same idea on windows and linux, launch from the command line with the --debug 
flag.

J

On 5/4/2022 8:23 PM, Peter Wu wrote:
@Jean Laroche, can you send some instructions on how 
to run the debug mode?

I have another QFX file from BofA too.  It failed even after I remove CARDNUM, 
CARDNAME and MCC elements.

I suspect there are more invalid tags in this file.

Btw, the sample file I give you worked after removing above three tags.

Best,
Peter

From: gnucash-user 

 on behalf of Jean Laroche 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 09:52
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
Running gnucash with --debug shows what the issue is.

Removing the lines that contain the CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements
makes the file import correctly.
I'm not sure why ofxlib does not just ignore the unrecognized elements,
but that's the way it is.
Perhaps file a bug with libofx?

Jean

LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:39:13:E:
element "CARDNUM" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 14)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: -50.00
(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:40:14:E:
element "CARDNAME" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 15)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: 9767
(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:41:9:E:
element "MCC" undefined



On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:
> Hi David C,
>
> It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction, it 
> would give a error dialog saying no new transaction.
>
> But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to import 
> the file.
>
> By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.
>
> Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
> From: David Carlson 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
> To: Peter Wu 
> Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net 
> , Gnucash 
> Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not 
> invoking Import Matcher
> If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
> the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
> mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>
>  wrote:
> Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you 
> click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  
> Is there an error message?
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
> mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>>
>  wrote:
> Quote:
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
> bookkeeping that is NOT

Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Jean L 
You launch GC with the --debug flag. If you're on MacOS, you have to go 
to a console, find the path to your Gnucash, then do 
GnucashApp/contents/MacOs/Gnucash/Gnucash --debug (from memory, so I'm 
sure some of this is wrong)


Same idea on windows and linux, launch from the command line with the 
--debug flag.


J


On 5/4/2022 8:23 PM, Peter Wu wrote:


@Jean Laroche , can you send some 
instructions on how to run the debug mode?


I have another QFX file from BofA too.  It failed even after I remove 
CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements.


I suspect there are more invalid tags in this file.

Btw, the sample file I give you worked after removing above three tags.

Best,

Peter

*From: *gnucash-user 
 on behalf 
of Jean Laroche 

*Date: *Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 09:52
*To: *gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject: *Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account 
not invoking Import Matcher


Running gnucash with --debug shows what the issue is.

Removing the lines that contain the CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements
makes the file import correctly.
I'm not sure why ofxlib does not just ignore the unrecognized elements,
but that's the way it is.
Perhaps file a bug with libofx?

Jean

LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:39:13:E: 


element "CARDNUM" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 14)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: -50.00
(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:40:14:E: 


element "CARDNAME" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 15)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: 9767
(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:41:9:E:
element "MCC" undefined



On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:
> Hi David C,
>
> It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported 
transaction, it would give a error dialog saying no new transaction.

>
> But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to 
import the file.

>
> By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.
>
> Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
> From: David Carlson 
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
> To: Peter Wu 
> Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash 
Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account 
not invoking Import Matcher
> If your file already contains a transaction that was previously 
imported with the same reference number, Gnucash does not import it again.

>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when 
you click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and 
select it?  Is there an error message?

>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

> Quote:
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort 
of bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct 
data for gnucash

>
> For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user 
flow, use the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx 
file and everything works fine.

>
> I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same 
institution and UI flow is the same.

>
> Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the 
first email.

>
> I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. 
Inside the file, keys are different.

>
> Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>
>> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort 
of bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct 
data for gnucash

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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Peter Wu 
@Jean Laroche, can you send some instructions on how 
to run the debug mode?

I have another QFX file from BofA too.  It failed even after I remove CARDNUM, 
CARDNAME and MCC elements.

I suspect there are more invalid tags in this file.

Btw, the sample file I give you worked after removing above three tags.

Best,
Peter

From: gnucash-user  
on behalf of Jean Laroche 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 09:52
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
Running gnucash with --debug shows what the issue is.

Removing the lines that contain the CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements
makes the file import correctly.
I'm not sure why ofxlib does not just ignore the unrecognized elements,
but that's the way it is.
Perhaps file a bug with libofx?

Jean

LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:39:13:E:
element "CARDNUM" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 14)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: -50.00
(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:40:14:E:
element "CARDNAME" undefined

(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 15)
  X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: 9767
(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:41:9:E:
element "MCC" undefined



On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:
> Hi David C,
>
> It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction, it 
> would give a error dialog saying no new transaction.
>
> But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to import 
> the file.
>
> By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.
>
> Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
> From: David Carlson 
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
> To: Peter Wu 
> Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash Users 
> 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not 
> invoking Import Matcher
> If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
> the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
> mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you 
> click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  
> Is there an error message?
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
> mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Quote:
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for 
> gnucash
>
> For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use 
> the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything 
> works fine.
>
> I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same 
> institution and UI flow is the same.
>
> Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email.
>
> I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside 
> the file, keys are different.
>
> Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
>> mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
>> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for 
>> gnucash
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Jean Laroche 
In the meantime, if you're on a linux box or a mac and you're familiar 
with linux commands, you can use the command line to strip the ofx file 
from the offending lines using sed, for example on the mac:


cat stmt.qfx | sed -E "/ stmt_fixed.qfx

I'm not a sed guru, so maybe there's a better/more robust way to do it. 
But this should give you a temporary solution?


Jean

On 5/4/22 9:51 AM, Jean Laroche wrote:

Running gnucash with --debug shows what the issue is.

Removing the lines that contain the CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements 
makes the file import correctly.
I'm not sure why ofxlib does not just ignore the unrecognized 
elements, but that's the way it is.

Perhaps file a bug with libofx?

Jean

LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:39:13:E: 
element "CARDNUM" undefined


(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 14)
 X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are 
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: -50.00

(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:40:14:E: 
element "CARDNAME" undefined


(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 15)
 X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are 
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: 9767

(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:41:9:E: 
element "MCC" undefined




On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:

Hi David C,

It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported 
transaction, it would give a error dialog saying no new transaction.


But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to 
import the file.


By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.

Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?

Best,
Peter

From: David Carlson 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
To: Peter Wu 
Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash 
Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not 
invoking Import Matcher
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously 
imported with the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it 
again.


On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when 
you click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and 
select it?  Is there an error message?


On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data 
for gnucash


For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user 
flow, use the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx 
file and everything works fine.


I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same 
institution and UI flow is the same.


Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the 
first email.


I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. 
Inside the file, keys are different.


Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone

On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:


What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort 
of bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct 
data for gnucash

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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Jean Laroche 

Running gnucash with --debug shows what the issue is.

Removing the lines that contain the CARDNUM, CARDNAME and MCC elements 
makes the file import correctly.
I'm not sure why ofxlib does not just ignore the unrecognized elements, 
but that's the way it is.

Perhaps file a bug with libofx?

Jean

LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:39:13:E: 
element "CARDNUM" undefined


(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 14)
 X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are 
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: -50.00

(Above message occurred on Line 39, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:40:14:E: 
element "CARDNAME" undefined


(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 15)
 X ERROR: startElement: incoming_data should be empty! You are 
probably using OpenSP <= 1.3.4.  The following data was lost: 9767

(Above message occurred on Line 40, Column 6)
LibOFX ERROR: OpenSP parser: otherError (misc parse error):
/var/folders/j6/7t8sg1vj4q97zhh9z5cdmxbm4rz935/T//libofxtmpcNQLhJ:41:9:E: 
element "MCC" undefined




On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:

Hi David C,

It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction, it would 
give a error dialog saying no new transaction.

But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to import the 
file.

By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.

Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?

Best,
Peter

From: David Carlson 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
To: Peter Wu 
Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you click on 
"Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  Is there an 
error message?

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use the 
web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything works 
fine.

I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same institution 
and UI flow is the same.

Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email.

I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside the 
file, keys are different.

Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone


On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:

What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread David Carlson 
Perhaps that is a problem with GnuCash's linking the OFX file to a selected
account in your data file.  That is over my paygrade...

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:00 AM Jean Laroche  wrote:

> I tried your OFX file, and the same happens for me, no matching dialog
> opens.
> I'll take a look and see if I can find out what's going on.
>
> Jean
>
> On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:
> > Hi David C,
> >
> > It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction,
> it would give a error dialog saying no new transaction.
> >
> > But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to
> import the file.
> >
> > By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.
> >
> > Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?
> >
> > Best,
> > Peter
> >
> > From: David Carlson 
> > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
> > To: Peter Wu 
> > Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash
> Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not
> invoking Import Matcher
> > If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported
> with the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson  > wrote:
> > Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you
> click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select
> it?  Is there an error message?
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu  peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > Quote:
> > What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
> gnucash
> >
> > For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow,
> use the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and
> everything works fine.
> >
> > I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same
> institution and UI flow is the same.
> >
> > Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first
> email.
> >
> > I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx.
> Inside the file, keys are different.
> >
> > Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Peter
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack <
> stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Jean Laroche 
I tried your OFX file, and the same happens for me, no matching dialog 
opens.

I'll take a look and see if I can find out what's going on.

Jean

On 5/4/22 8:38 AM, Peter Wu wrote:

Hi David C,

It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction, it would 
give a error dialog saying no new transaction.

But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to import the 
file.

By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.

Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?

Best,
Peter

From: David Carlson 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
To: Peter Wu 
Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you click on 
"Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  Is there an 
error message?

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use the 
web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything works 
fine.

I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same institution 
and UI flow is the same.

Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email.

I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside the 
file, keys are different.

Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone


On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:

What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Peter Wu 
Hi David C,

It is all new transactions.  If it is previously imported transaction, it would 
give a error dialog saying no new transaction.

But for the given QFX, it just does nothing after you click okay to import the 
file.

By the way, I am using the latest Mac OS on latest Gnucash version.

Should I reply all with email or just reply to the mailing list?

Best,
Peter

From: David Carlson 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
To: Peter Wu 
Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you click 
on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  Is there 
an error message?

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use the 
web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything works 
fine.

I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same institution 
and UI flow is the same.

Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email.

I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside the 
file, keys are different.

Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
> mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for 
> gnucash
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Peter Wu 
Hey David, sorry I wasn’t being specific.  I mentioned in the email subject 
line.  It does not open Import Matcher window.

This is a new account.  I open it, it prompt me to select an account an 
account.  (I already made a new empty account before import). Select the 
account, no import matcher pops up.

I have another qfx file with more transactions from this BofA business account. 
 It doesn’t open import matcher as well.

My personal checking or credit card qfx are from BofA and works fine.

Best,
Peter

From: David Carlson 
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 08:30
To: Peter Wu 
Cc: stepbystepf...@comcast.net , Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking 
Import Matcher
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported with 
the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you click 
on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select it?  Is there 
an error message?

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu 
mailto:peter_cd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use the 
web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything works 
fine.

I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same institution 
and UI flow is the same.

Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email.

I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside the 
file, keys are different.

Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
> mailto:stepbystepf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for 
> gnucash
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread David Carlson 
If your file already contains a transaction that was previously imported
with the same reference number,  Gnucash does not import it again.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:11 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you
> click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select
> it?  Is there an error message?
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu  wrote:
>
>> Quote:
>> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
>> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
>> gnucash
>>
>> For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow,
>> use the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and
>> everything works fine.
>>
>> I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same
>> institution and UI flow is the same.
>>
>> Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first
>> email.
>>
>> I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx.
>> Inside the file, keys are different.
>>
>> Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack <
>> stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
>> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread David Carlson 
Probably, but you do not explain what happens or doesn't happen when you
click on "Import OFX/QFX"?  Are you able to see the filename and select
it?  Is there an error message?

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Wu  wrote:

> Quote:
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
> gnucash
>
> For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow,
> use the web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and
> everything works fine.
>
> I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same
> institution and UI flow is the same.
>
> Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first
> email.
>
> I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx.
> Inside the file, keys are different.
>
> Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack <
> stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for
> gnucash
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Peter Wu 
Quote:
What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for gnucash

For personal account checking or credit card. It is the same user flow, use the 
web connect for quicken 2018 or above download a qfx file and everything works 
fine. 

I would expect this biz credit to work too. They are from the same institution 
and UI flow is the same. 

Somehow the downloaded qfx won’t work. I attached the file in the first email. 

I used a diff checker to check personal qfx and biz credit card qfx. Inside the 
file, keys are different. 

Is it because how gnucash is parsing the file?

Thanks,
Peter

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2022, at 6:47 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some sort of 
> bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct data for 
> gnucash
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread David Carlson 
Peter,

What do you mean by "does not work"?

Looking at it with a text editor, it appears to follow the OFX format but
it only contains one transaction which may or may not import correctly to
your data file.

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:47 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 5/3/2022 11:25 PM, Peter Wu wrote:
>
> >2.  As the email subject says.  Attached qfx file does not work.  I
> have personal Bank of American checking and credit card.  They all work.  I
> downloaded the file by using the “Web Connect for Quicken 2018 and above”.
>
> You are perhaps confusing file type with data withing that file. You say
> that you downloaded the file asking it be delivered for "Quicken 2018
> and above" What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some
> sort of bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct
> data for gnucash (data intended for standard double entry bookkeeping)
>
> >
> > I have a suspicion why it is not working.  Maybe it is because a
> combined qfx file.  BofA organized their business account in a group
> fashion.  They made a parent account and each credit card holder as a child
> account.  Their personal account doesn’t follow this parent-child account
> structure.
> >
> Well a credit card "account" of that sort is standard for business
> credit cards (a master card number, perhaps not used to charge anything,
> and some number of individual child cards which are. That way whoever is
> doing the record keeping can see what is being charged on each card but
> pays to the master number. That is NOT just for business. Thus in my own
> case, I have a card (and it's the master number) and my wife has a card
> with a different number but actually the same account. When I get a
> statement, the charges for both card numbers are listed separately but
> the total, and payments. etc. just on the master account number.
>
> Since I have not yet switched that to online, I have no idea what the
> file would look like if I asked MasterCard to provide a file instead of
> paper statement.
>
> Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Michael or Penny Novack 

On 5/3/2022 11:25 PM, Peter Wu wrote:


   2.  As the email subject says.  Attached qfx file does not work.  I have 
personal Bank of American checking and credit card.  They all work.  I 
downloaded the file by using the “Web Connect for Quicken 2018 and above”.


You are perhaps confusing file type with data withing that file. You say 
that you downloaded the file asking it be delivered for "Quicken 2018 
and above" What is your reasoning to expect THAT (data intended for some 
sort of bookkeeping that is NOT double entry bookkeeping) to be correct 
data for gnucash (data intended for standard double entry bookkeeping)




I have a suspicion why it is not working.  Maybe it is because a combined qfx 
file.  BofA organized their business account in a group fashion.  They made a 
parent account and each credit card holder as a child account.  Their personal 
account doesn’t follow this parent-child account structure.

Well a credit card "account" of that sort is standard for business 
credit cards (a master card number, perhaps not used to charge anything, 
and some number of individual child cards which are. That way whoever is 
doing the record keeping can see what is being charged on each card but 
pays to the master number. That is NOT just for business. Thus in my own 
case, I have a card (and it's the master number) and my wife has a card 
with a different number but actually the same account. When I get a 
statement, the charges for both card numbers are listed separately but 
the total, and payments. etc. just on the master account number.


Since I have not yet switched that to online, I have no idea what the 
file would look like if I asked MasterCard to provide a file instead of 
paper statement.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] QFX file for Bank of American business account not invoking Import Matcher

2022-05-04 Thread Liz 
On Wed, 4 May 2022 03:25:25 +
Peter Wu  wrote:

>  1.  Beside the mailing-list.  Does anyone know a forum where we can
> ask and discuss issues?  I feel it maybe easier to
> search/discuss/answer questions than a mailing list.

This mailing list leads to the expertise, or the brains trust of
Gnucash. You can also use IRC if you prefer.

Liz
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