Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
On 5/24/19 10:21 AM, John Ralls wrote: > >> On May 24, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: >> >> 3. I do have a version of Balance Sheet that is moving away from guile >> (haven't made it all the way yet) but better formatted that the >> non-guile version. I haven't contributed it yet since I'm not satisfied >> with the indenting on it. However, a less strict repository for sharing >> would be welcome. Have to be able to bundle multiple files as a small >> package (my Balsheet-Formatted has 3 source code files). > I trust that you mean it's moving away from eguile. Writing reports without > Guile itself would require a great deal of boilerplate code. You are correct. Slow going project. > Regards, > John Ralls > > -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com kg...@arrl.net 253-350-0166 --- GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
> On May 24, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: > > 3. I do have a version of Balance Sheet that is moving away from guile > (haven't made it all the way yet) but better formatted that the > non-guile version. I haven't contributed it yet since I'm not satisfied > with the indenting on it. However, a less strict repository for sharing > would be welcome. Have to be able to bundle multiple files as a small > package (my Balsheet-Formatted has 3 source code files). I trust that you mean it's moving away from eguile. Writing reports without Guile itself would require a great deal of boilerplate code. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
On 5/24/19 9:40 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > Op vrijdag 24 mei 2019 18:20:22 CEST schreef Derek Atkins: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: My ideal solution would have been this: - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar to how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their respective desktops >>> Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... >> I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is >> effectively the same as current commiters. >> >> The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. >> >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> -derek > The wiki was what David T suggested initially in the bug report. John didn't > think a wiki to be a good place to park source files and I tend to agree. > > As for the github suggestion: it *is* currently our de facto online > repository. And a repository with benefits: all reports in there are at least > guaranteed to compile... 1. I would hate to see this embedded in the current repository for GnC. 2. A separate area for various contributions that would not be maintained by the devs over time. Not guaranteed to compile for future releases. 3. I do have a version of Balance Sheet that is moving away from guile (haven't made it all the way yet) but better formatted that the non-guile version. I haven't contributed it yet since I'm not satisfied with the indenting on it. However, a less strict repository for sharing would be welcome. Have to be able to bundle multiple files as a small package (my Balsheet-Formatted has 3 source code files). > The downside of this particular repo of course is it has limited write access > and we're not inclined to change that soon. > > Both options still depend on the user copying a source file from somewhere > into a specific location on their PC and write a line of code in another > file. > It's all still manual. As is rolling your own. > > Geert > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com kg...@arrl.net 253-350-0166 --- GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
> On May 24, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> >> >>> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> My ideal solution would have been this: >>> - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar >>> to >>> how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their >>> respective desktops >> >> Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... > > I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is > effectively the same as current commiters. > > The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. Gramps does exactly that with https://github.com/gramps-project/addons. But that's the easy part. Getting GnuCash to work with the repository is more difficult and time consuming. That's what Geert doesn't have time for. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Just noting that when I suggested originally that these reports be stored on the wiki, rather than in the application, I was told unequivocally that the wiki was NOT the proper place for these files. On May 24, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > >> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens >> wrote: >> >> >> My ideal solution would have been this: >> - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar >> to >> how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their >> respective desktops > > Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is effectively the same as current commiters. The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
On Fri, 24 May 2019, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... What about a GnuCash wiki? Rich ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Op vrijdag 24 mei 2019 18:20:22 CEST schreef Derek Atkins: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> My ideal solution would have been this: > >> - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar > >> to > >> how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their > >> respective desktops > > > > Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... > > I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is > effectively the same as current commiters. > > The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -derek The wiki was what David T suggested initially in the bug report. John didn't think a wiki to be a good place to park source files and I tend to agree. As for the github suggestion: it *is* currently our de facto online repository. And a repository with benefits: all reports in there are at least guaranteed to compile... The downside of this particular repo of course is it has limited write access and we're not inclined to change that soon. Both options still depend on the user copying a source file from somewhere into a specific location on their PC and write a line of code in another file. It's all still manual. Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
I considered that, but didn’t think GitHub would be a hurdle for someone who has had to or is learning Scheme. Certainly the wiki would be more open. Regards, Adrien > On May 24, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> >> >>> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> My ideal solution would have been this: >>> - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar >>> to >>> how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their >>> respective desktops >> >> Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... > > I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is > effectively the same as current commiters. > > The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -derek > > -- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Hi, On Fri, May 24, 2019 12:12 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > >> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens >> wrote: >> >> >> My ideal solution would have been this: >> - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar >> to >> how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their >> respective desktops > > Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... I don't think so. It would require people to push to github, which is effectively the same as current commiters. The wiki would be a better place. It opens it up to more people. > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
> On May 24, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > > My ideal solution would have been this: > - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar to > how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their > respective desktops Is it possible to accomplish this using GitHub? Just curious... Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Op vrijdag 24 mei 2019 02:49:10 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger: > Am Do., 23. Mai 2019 um 22:26 Uhr schrieb Geert Janssens > > People that still want these reports can install them as explained in our > > Custom Reports wiki page [1]. > > That is ways to complicated and > where is the translation of that page to our over 50 supported languages? > I appreciate localization is your point of attention. However I take missing translations as an unfair objection. This is akin to asking to drop all undocumented features precisely because they lack documentation/translations. More in general I don't think it's realistic to block change just because it would require new documentation or translations. Keep in mind we're assuming the reports are not used (and other than your testimony there has been noone else so far claiming they have used or still use them). So it's not like we're asking everyone to jump through several hoops. As to the complexity of adding such a report, yes it's more complex. My ideal solution would have been this: - we provide an online repository with user contributed reports, similar to how kde-look or gnome-look websites host themes or wallpapers for their respective desktops - in gnucash you integrate an interface to this repository such that a user can browse available reports and install those that interest them. Unfortunately I don't have time to implement this. And I want to balance the work to spend on that against the general use of these reports. For popular reports such effort could pay off though popular reports would likely get included in the main code instead. So far it looks like the reports we talk about are hardly used if at all. But I'll wait some more for feedback from other lists. Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Op vrijdag 24 mei 2019 02:49:10 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger:
> Because these reports are translated, they serve also as a fallback
> for the missing translation of the incomplete documentation as they
> show a few aspects of what can be done with reports.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to convey here. Can you clarify
what you mean ?
Fwiw I have looked over the strings in these reports:
The daily reports has 4 strings that are unique to the report. Those are the
names of the reports and a short description.
In addition it has two strings it only shares with average-balance.scm
(related to showing subaccounts). I believe those should actually be aligned
with the other reports. They are not unique to these two reports, only
slightly formulated differently.
The average balance report adds 17 unique strings of which two are for the
report title and description and most others are for options specific to this
report. Of those again a number sound very similar to options in other reports
and can likely be aligned.
hello-world.scm probably does add the most unique strings, though most of them
are translations of things you'll need to understand in English anyway to
effectively write a custom report ("text option", "multi-column option",...).
The programming world unfortunately is very biased towards English. Function
names are almost always based on English terms. So I have my doubts on the
merits of translating those strings.
> When I played around decades ago with gnucash they had a promotional
> and a didactical use for me.
> Without them I had probaly choosen a different product, because the
> standard reports with their default setting were very US-GAAP
> oriented. And the examples told me it should be possible to get
> something conforming DE-GOB.
This part interests me more. I am curious now which report(s) exactly you are
referring to here ?
Geert
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Too much to deal with in one reply. I'll split it up in smaller chunks. Op vrijdag 24 mei 2019 02:49:10 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger: > Am Do., 23. Mai 2019 um 22:26 Uhr schrieb Geert Janssens > > : > > For clarity: I recommend the --extra switch *only* to experiment with > > these > > example reports (and possibly a few other experimental features). If you > > want to continue to use one for production reports, it should be > > installed as a custom report [1] > > I am still against removing or hiding them, special behind the same > flag as the bit rotten register2. I could argue the reports we're talking about are equally bit rotten. Both still compile and run, but other than that don't get any developer attention at all. I believe we'll simply have to agree to disagree here. And find a compromise that can work. > That is where menus are for: you can choose, there is no need to eat > the complete card. Again, I have different opinion. Going with your analogy: if there's too much on the menu it would take me too much time to find what I want to eat. Large projects like LibreOffice or their commercial counterpart Ms Office are aware of this and they do large usability studies in hopes of improving this. In the past I read several pointing out that too many options on a menu is actually a bad thing. Unfortunately we don't have access to such surveys for the GnuCash interface, so we have to work from limited data. At worst if no one reacts now the amount of user complaints afterwards could serve as our poor man's survey. If many complain then we can equally revert (part of) the decision. > The next time somebody may complain the business menu entries are > cluttering the whole appearance. > :-) I actually agree with that statement. In the past I have pondered a lot on how to shift to a different concept to group gnucash functionality in a way that's is more accessible than it is now. That is however a completely different topic and merits a thorough discussion on its own. The important difference though is we know the business features are actively used. So far no one indicated to be using the reports that were proposed to be removed from the menus. (With the notorious exception that you wrote they were useful to you in some way early on. I'll get back to that part in another mail.) > > So far noone who's actually using these reports has stepped up. A few have > > expressed concerns we may be dropping potentially valuable reports. > > You asked only english speaking users. You did not ask on the other > lanhuage lists. > Fair enough. I have now sent a similar mail on gnucash-nl. Feel free to solicit the other lists as well as I'm not subscribed there. Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Am Do., 23. Mai 2019 um 22:26 Uhr schrieb Geert Janssens : > > For clarity: I recommend the --extra switch *only* to experiment with these > example reports (and possibly a few other experimental features). If you want > to continue to use one for production reports, it should be installed as a > custom report [1] I am still against removing or hiding them, special behind the same flag as the bit rotten register2. That is where menus are for: you can choose, there is no need to eat the complete card. The next time somebody may complain the business menu entries are cluttering the whole appearance. > So far noone who's actually using these reports has stepped up. A few have > expressed concerns we may be dropping potentially valuable reports. You asked only english speaking users. You did not ask on the other lanhuage lists. Because these reports are translated, they serve also as a fallback for the missing translation of the incomplete documentation as they show a few aspects of what can be done with reports. When I played around decades ago with gnucash they had a promotional and a didactical use for me. Without them I had probaly choosen a different product, because the standard reports with their default setting were very US-GAAP oriented. And the examples told me it should be possible to get something conforming DE-GOB. > As it stands I plan to go ahead as explained though only for the GnuCash 4.x > release. > > People that still want these reports can install them as explained in our > Custom Reports wiki page [1]. That is ways to complicated and where is the translation of that page to our over 50 supported languages? > At the same time I will add pointers there to > the example reports and how to experiment with them. > Geert > > [1] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Loading_Your_Report Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
For clarity: I recommend the --extra switch *only* to experiment with these example reports (and possibly a few other experimental features). If you want to continue to use one for production reports, it should be installed as a custom report [1] So far noone who's actually using these reports has stepped up. A few have expressed concerns we may be dropping potentially valuable reports. As it stands I plan to go ahead as explained though only for the GnuCash 4.x release. People that still want these reports can install them as explained in our Custom Reports wiki page [1]. At the same time I will add pointers there to the example reports and how to experiment with them. Geert [1] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Loading_Your_Report Op dinsdag 21 mei 2019 21:06:00 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone via gnucash- user: > Ah, missed that, thanks! So even less of a hurdle then to use/play with > those reports... > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On May 21, 2019, at 12:49 PM, D wrote: > > > > Adrien, > > > > I'll note that Geert's proposal only requires the user to add a switch at > > run time--i.e., "gnucash --extra". There is no need for the prospective > > report writer to recompile.I > > > > David > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Ah, missed that, thanks! So even less of a hurdle then to use/play with those reports... Regards, Adrien > On May 21, 2019, at 12:49 PM, D wrote: > > Adrien, > > I'll note that Geert's proposal only requires the user to add a switch at run > time--i.e., "gnucash --extra". There is no need for the prospective report > writer to recompile.I > > David > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Adrien, I'll note that Geert's proposal only requires the user to add a switch at run time--i.e., "gnucash --extra". There is no need for the prospective report writer to recompile.I David On May 21, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I’m in agreement there. If someone did take the plunge into scheme and they wanted to work on those particular reports, asking them to compile with flags isn’t a stretch for them at that point. The less clutter and cruft the better, especially for new users. Regards, Adrien > On May 21, 2019, at 7:09 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the > application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn > scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this > has not been a particularly common occurrence. > > Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO. > > It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to > explain how a user would activate this. > > David ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
I’m in agreement there. If someone did take the plunge into scheme and they wanted to work on those particular reports, asking them to compile with flags isn’t a stretch for them at that point. The less clutter and cruft the better, especially for new users. Regards, Adrien > On May 21, 2019, at 7:09 AM, David T. via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the > application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn > scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this > has not been a particularly common occurrence. > > Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO. > > It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to > explain how a user would activate this. > > David ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
On 5/20/2019 4:22 PM, Geert Janssens wrote: You can choose to install the report as a custom report as explained in our wiki: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports The whole assumption here is these reports are rarely used and unmaintained. We don't want to completely remove them as they can serve as examples of what can be done with the report system, but at the same time we want to remove clutter from the menus. So they stick around as development examples, not as ready to use reports. Regards, Geert I would think that though rare, a couple of those would be more than "examples", would have specific uses. Then they would be VERY useful. An examples were asked for? Average Balance there are loan agreements that use this rather than daily balance. Also other agreements (like whether interest paid, etc.). You might want to verify/check (aka "reconcile") what the bank says the average balance was. Expenses vs. Day of Week Income vs. Day of Week --- these two, especially together, would be important for a business deciding what days of the week to be open and which to take as the day(s) closed. A restaurant business usually makes this decision by estimate, using "cash receipts" but that could be deceptive if the profit percentage is not a constant << maybe expenses were disproportionately higher on the high receipts nights >> But like I said, RARE. It is perfectly OK, maybe a good idea, that things needed by very few of us are not cluttering up the app for all of us. Things that if we want/need we can get, with a little trouble. I will note that these tend to cluster. Taking myself as an example, keeping books for non-profits, would use the special reports that non-profits would want (or of new to it, example CoA for a non-profit) --- so would all the others keeping books for non-profits -- but other users of gnucash wouldn't use them. Note that this is how many of the "for profit" accounting apps work. They sell you a version specific to your type of entity or line of business. That is why many of you complain this or that missing. This is essentially the monolithic vs modular argument. I'll make no bones about being firmly on the side of the latter. MUCH easier to maintain. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
I'd think that it would be worthwhile to have a good set of debugged and documented gold-standard reports. There are far too many reports (*guilty as charged*); with many overlapping and many obsolete ones which become hard to work on because they make assumptions upon the data and are incredibly poorly documented -- it would seem many prior report-writers have enthusiastically added their work, and disappeared before explaining their work and report limitations. They also add/duplicate a lot of infrastructure, adding (unpaid) work to maintainers. Hence there is a general *need* for tightening infrastructure and removing old dead code. Hence we want to figure out which reports are underused. The candidate list seems very reasonable to make obsolete; any active users will hopefully raise their hands and we can consider alternatives/reducing the list. On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:11, David T. via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the > application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn > scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this > has not been a particularly common occurrence. > > Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO. > > It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to > explain how a user would activate this. > > David > > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:24, Manfred Usselmann > wrote: > > Hi Geert, > > Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1] > > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on > the > > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following > reports: > > > > Average Balance > > Expenses vs. Day of Week > > Income vs. Day of Week > > Sample Report with Examples > > > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) > > IMO this is an excellent solution. > > > and hide this menu by > > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > > command line switch. > > Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they > get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra > switch exists. > > I would just leave the examples menu visible. > > Regards, > Manfred > > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which > ones > > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > > > Regards, > > > > Geert > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user [2] > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists [3] for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > Links: > -- > [1] https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > [2] https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > [3] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this has not been a particularly common occurrence. Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO. It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to explain how a user would activate this. David On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:24, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Hi Geert, Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: > Hi, > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1] > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > Average Balance > Expenses vs. Day of Week > Income vs. Day of Week > Sample Report with Examples > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) IMO this is an excellent solution. > and hide this menu by > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > command line switch. Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra switch exists. I would just leave the examples menu visible. Regards, Manfred > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > Regards, > > Geert > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user [2] > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists [3] for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Links: -- [1] https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [2] https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user [3] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Hi all, Am Di., 21. Mai 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Manfred Usselmann < manf...@usselmann.de>: > > > Hi Geert, > > Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: > : > > and hide this menu by > > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > > command line switch. > > Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they > get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra > switch exists. > > I would just leave the examples menu visible. +1 Regards Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Hi Geert, Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: > Hi, > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1] > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > Average Balance > Expenses vs. Day of Week > Income vs. Day of Week > Sample Report with Examples > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) IMO this is an excellent solution. > and hide this menu by > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > command line switch. Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra switch exists. I would just leave the examples menu visible. Regards, Manfred > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > Regards, > > Geert > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user [2] > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists [3] for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Links: -- [1] https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [2] https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user [3] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
You can choose to install the report as a custom report as explained in our wiki: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports The whole assumption here is these reports are rarely used and unmaintained. We don't want to completely remove them as they can serve as examples of what can be done with the report system, but at the same time we want to remove clutter from the menus. So they stick around as development examples, not as ready to use reports. Regards, Geert Op zaterdag 18 mei 2019 19:18:42 CEST schreef Stephen C. Camidge: > I am a Mac user - I like options. > > No, I do not use those report. > > Steve > > > Steve, > > > > Do you use any of these reports? > > > > If not, then you won't suffer from the loss. The whole point of hiding > > these reports is that they aren't generally used. > > > > David > > > > On May 18, 2019, at 9:27 PM, "Stephen C. Camidge" > > wrote: > > > > How will this work for those of us who do not use a command line? A new > > preference? > > > > Steve > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > > > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on > > > the assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be > > > achieved in gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the > > > following reports: > > > > > > Average Balance > > > Expenses vs. Day of Week > > > Income vs. Day of Week > > > Sample Report with Examples > > > > > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > > > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this > > > menu by default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the > > > '--extra' command line switch. > > > > > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which > > > ones and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Geert > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Well, as a Mac user, you can run Gnucash from a terminal prompt and add the switch, if that's what you want. In my 13 plus years of using Gnucash, I've never needed these reports. David On May 18, 2019, at 10:50 PM, "Stephen C. Camidge" wrote: I am a Mac user - I like options. No, I do not use those report. Steve -- Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 1:14 PM, D wrote: > Steve, > > Do you use any of these reports? > > If not, then you won't suffer from the loss. The whole point of hiding > these reports is that they aren't generally used. > > David > > On May 18, 2019, at 9:27 PM, "Stephen C. Camidge" > wrote: > > How will this work for those of us who do not use a command line? A new > preference? > > Steve > > > -- > Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 > > On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on > > the > > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > > > Average Balance > > Expenses vs. Day of Week > > Income vs. Day of Week > > Sample Report with Examples > > > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this menu > > by > > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > > command line switch. > > > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which > > ones > > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > > > Regards, > > > > Geert > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
I am a Mac user - I like options. No, I do not use those report. Steve -- Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 1:14 PM, D wrote: > Steve, > > Do you use any of these reports? > > If not, then you won't suffer from the loss. The whole point of hiding > these reports is that they aren't generally used. > > David > > On May 18, 2019, at 9:27 PM, "Stephen C. Camidge" > wrote: > > How will this work for those of us who do not use a command line? A new > preference? > > Steve > > > -- > Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 > > On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on > > the > > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > > > Average Balance > > Expenses vs. Day of Week > > Income vs. Day of Week > > Sample Report with Examples > > > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this menu > > by > > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > > command line switch. > > > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which > > ones > > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > > > Regards, > > > > Geert > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
Steve, Do you use any of these reports? If not, then you won't suffer from the loss. The whole point of hiding these reports is that they aren't generally used. David On May 18, 2019, at 9:27 PM, "Stephen C. Camidge" wrote: How will this work for those of us who do not use a command line? A new preference? Steve -- Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > Average Balance > Expenses vs. Day of Week > Income vs. Day of Week > Sample Report with Examples > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this menu by > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > command line switch. > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > Regards, > > Geert > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation
How will this work for those of us who do not use a command line? A new preference? Steve -- Stephen C. Camidge scami...@fastmail.fm (519) 363-3912 On Sat, May 18, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports: > > Average Balance > Expenses vs. Day of Week > Income vs. Day of Week > Sample Report with Examples > > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this menu by > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' > command line switch. > > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones > and also how these reports benefit you in practice. > > Regards, > > Geert > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
