Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

The only file in that location is .../gnucash/books/etsmoney.gnucash.gcm

I just ran each and every report with no problem - just ran it, then 
closed it.  No new files or folders created.


On 2/13/21 5:26 PM, David Carlson wrote:
If you still have a copy of your user prefs for 2.6 the .gcm file in 
the books folder contains the configurations for any reports that were 
open when the data file was last closed.  This could help to create 
similar reports in the new format.


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 3:20 PM Elmar > wrote:


In the absence of any follow-up, I am guessing that I'm hosed? Just
have to delete the saved-reports-2.4 and try to rebuild my reports
from
scratch?



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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[David Carlson]

If you still have a copy of your user prefs for 2.6 the .gcm file in the
books folder contains the configurations for any reports that were open
when the data file was last closed.  This could help to create similar
reports in the new format.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 3:20 PM Elmar  wrote:

> In the absence of any follow-up, I am guessing that I'm hosed?  Just
> have to delete the saved-reports-2.4 and try to rebuild my reports from
> scratch?
>
> On 2/11/21 11:36 AM, Elmar wrote:
> > Running "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64
> > --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash
> > --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace" in a terminal window invoked GC fine.
> > Opening the saved reports item, then trying to delete a report results
> > in this output in the terminal window:
> >
> > ets@Shinobi-L ~ $ /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64
> > --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash
> > --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace
> > Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
> > Backtrace:
> >7 (apply-smob/1 #)
> > In report-core.scm:
> > 735:9  6 (gnc:save-all-reports)
> > In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
> >592:29  5 (map1 (("56c1338531aa5948f29ffac9c8299627" . #<) …))
> >592:29  4 (map1 (("48954786309f091b627a6d3bac31df38" . #<) …))
> >592:17  3 (map1 (("f4327d79575b0d1039dc544e59030b77" . #<) …))
> > In report-core.scm:
> >725:20  2 (gnc:report-template-save-to-savefile _)
> >659:21  1 (gnc:report-template-serialize #< vers…>)
> > 165:0  0 (%report-template-name-procedure _)
> >
> > report-core.scm:165:0: In procedure %report-template-name-procedure:
> > In procedure struct_vtable: Wrong type argument in position 1
> > (expecting struct): #f
> > ets@Shinobi-L ~ $
> >
> > OTOH the gnucash.trace file is completely blank.
> >
> > - Elmar
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

In the absence of any follow-up, I am guessing that I'm hosed?  Just 
have to delete the saved-reports-2.4 and try to rebuild my reports from 
scratch?


On 2/11/21 11:36 AM, Elmar wrote:
Running "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 
--command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash 
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace" in a terminal window invoked GC fine. 
Opening the saved reports item, then trying to delete a report results 
in this output in the terminal window:


ets@Shinobi-L ~ $ /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 
--command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash 
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace

Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
Backtrace:
   7 (apply-smob/1 #)
In report-core.scm:
    735:9  6 (gnc:save-all-reports)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   592:29  5 (map1 (("56c1338531aa5948f29ffac9c8299627" . #<) …))
   592:29  4 (map1 (("48954786309f091b627a6d3bac31df38" . #<) …))
   592:17  3 (map1 (("f4327d79575b0d1039dc544e59030b77" . #<) …))
In report-core.scm:
   725:20  2 (gnc:report-template-save-to-savefile _)
   659:21  1 (gnc:report-template-serialize #< vers…>)
    165:0  0 (%report-template-name-procedure _)

report-core.scm:165:0: In procedure %report-template-name-procedure:
In procedure struct_vtable: Wrong type argument in position 1 
(expecting struct): #f

ets@Shinobi-L ~ $

OTOH the gnucash.trace file is completely blank.

- Elmar



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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

I'm trying to edit and/or delete existing reports, not (yet) create new 
ones.  Or do you mean the trace file? In the command string I used 
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace, and that file was created.  It just had no 
contents.


On 2/12/21 1:40 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:

You normally specify the name when Saving a report. What name did you use?

On Fri, 12 Feb 2021, 12:36 am Elmar, > wrote:


Running "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64
--command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"


...
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Christopher Lam]

You normally specify the name when Saving a report. What name did you use?

On Fri, 12 Feb 2021, 12:36 am Elmar,  wrote:

> Running "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64
> --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash
> --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace" in a terminal window invoked GC fine.
> Opening the saved reports item, then trying to delete a report results
> in this output in the terminal window:
>
> ets@Shinobi-L ~ $ /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64
> --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash
> --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace
> Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
> Backtrace:
> 7 (apply-smob/1 #)
> In report-core.scm:
>  735:9  6 (gnc:save-all-reports)
> In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
> 592:29  5 (map1 (("56c1338531aa5948f29ffac9c8299627" . #<) …))
> 592:29  4 (map1 (("48954786309f091b627a6d3bac31df38" . #<) …))
> 592:17  3 (map1 (("f4327d79575b0d1039dc544e59030b77" . #<) …))
> In report-core.scm:
> 725:20  2 (gnc:report-template-save-to-savefile _)
> 659:21  1 (gnc:report-template-serialize #< vers…>)
>  165:0  0 (%report-template-name-procedure _)
>
> report-core.scm:165:0: In procedure %report-template-name-procedure:
> In procedure struct_vtable: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting
> struct): #f
> ets@Shinobi-L ~ $
>
> OTOH the gnucash.trace file is completely blank.
>
> - Elmar
>
> On 2/11/21 11:23 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > Ok, the branch specification is probably important.
> >
> > You can try as follows:
> > /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
> --file-
> > forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout"
> >
> > My mail client splits this line up, but the command should be all on one
> line.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geert
>
>
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

Running "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 
--command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash 
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace" in a terminal window invoked GC fine. 
Opening the saved reports item, then trying to delete a report results 
in this output in the terminal window:


ets@Shinobi-L ~ $ /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 
--command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash 
--logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace

Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
Backtrace:
   7 (apply-smob/1 #)
In report-core.scm:
    735:9  6 (gnc:save-all-reports)
In srfi/srfi-1.scm:
   592:29  5 (map1 (("56c1338531aa5948f29ffac9c8299627" . #<) …))
   592:29  4 (map1 (("48954786309f091b627a6d3bac31df38" . #<) …))
   592:17  3 (map1 (("f4327d79575b0d1039dc544e59030b77" . #<) …))
In report-core.scm:
   725:20  2 (gnc:report-template-save-to-savefile _)
   659:21  1 (gnc:report-template-serialize #< vers…>)
    165:0  0 (%report-template-name-procedure _)

report-core.scm:165:0: In procedure %report-template-name-procedure:
In procedure struct_vtable: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting 
struct): #f

ets@Shinobi-L ~ $

OTOH the gnucash.trace file is completely blank.

- Elmar

On 2/11/21 11:23 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

Ok, the branch specification is probably important.

You can try as follows:
/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash --file-
forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout"

My mail client splits this line up, but the command should be all on one line.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Geert Janssens]

Ok, the branch specification is probably important.

You can try as follows:
/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash --file-
forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout"

My mail client splits this line up, but the command should be all on one line.

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 17:19:53 CET schreef Elmar:
> The menu item cals GC via "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable
> --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash @@
> %f @@"
> 
> And this is the first (and only) flatpak I have ever installed.  I
> installed Flatseal so GC could find my data files as well, of course.
> 
> On 2/11/21 9:16 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > In that case the first thing to do is to figure out how exactly your
> > system
> > calls the flatpak version of gnucash. There are quite a few subtle details
> > that may affect this.
> > 
> > You can examine the menu entry to figure out what command is being run
> > exactly.
> > 
> > Out of curiosity have you been removing installed flatpaks manually by
> > deleting associated directories ? The error suggests flatpak believes a
> > version of gnucash (master) is installed on your system while it appears
> > not to.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 13:58:29 CET schreef Elmar:
> >> Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"
> >> 
> >> does not invoke the program and instead gives me
> >> 
> >> "error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"
> >> 
> >> Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.
> >> 
> >> - Elmar




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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

The menu item cals GC via "/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable 
--arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash @@ 
%f @@"


And this is the first (and only) flatpak I have ever installed.  I 
installed Flatseal so GC could find my data files as well, of course.


On 2/11/21 9:16 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

In that case the first thing to do is to figure out how exactly your system
calls the flatpak version of gnucash. There are quite a few subtle details
that may affect this.

You can examine the menu entry to figure out what command is being run
exactly.

Out of curiosity have you been removing installed flatpaks manually by
deleting associated directories ? The error suggests flatpak believes a
version of gnucash (master) is installed on your system while it appears not
to.

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 13:58:29 CET schreef Elmar:

Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"

does not invoke the program and instead gives me

"error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"

Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.

- Elmar


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Geert Janssens]

In that case the first thing to do is to figure out how exactly your system 
calls the flatpak version of gnucash. There are quite a few subtle details 
that may affect this.

You can examine the menu entry to figure out what command is being run 
exactly.

Out of curiosity have you been removing installed flatpaks manually by 
deleting associated directories ? The error suggests flatpak believes a 
version of gnucash (master) is installed on your system while it appears not 
to.

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 13:58:29 CET schreef Elmar:
> Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"
> 
> does not invoke the program and instead gives me
> 
> "error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"
> 
> Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.
> 
> - Elmar
> 
> On 2/11/21 3:59 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By  >
> > default the trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is >
> treated special by flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but >
> it's indeed safer to add the --logto option. You are free to use a >
> file name there (for example "$HOME/ gnucash.trace") or stdout. > > Note
> for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll >
> probably have to invoke something more like this: flatpak run >
> org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout" > > Regards, > >
> Geert >




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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"

does not invoke the program and instead gives me

"error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"

Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.

- Elmar

On 2/11/21 3:59 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By  > default the trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is > 
treated special by flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but > 
it's indeed safer to add the --logto option. You are free to use a > 
file name there (for example "$HOME/ gnucash.trace") or stdout. > > Note 
for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll > 
probably have to invoke something more like this: flatpak run > 
org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout" > > Regards, > > 
Geert >


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 03:42:52 CET schreef Christopher Lam:
> Scheme backtraces are usually found at
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile but if flatpak hides them somewhere
> obscure you can dump onto console via "gnucash --logto=stdout". See
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Logging
> 

The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By default the 
trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is treated special by 
flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but it's indeed safer to  add the 
--logto option. You are free to use a file name there (for example "$HOME/
gnucash.trace") or stdout.

Note for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll probably 
have to  invoke something more like this:
flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout"

Regards,

Geert

> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 6:29 am Elmar,  wrote:
> > The sequence of events was that I had been running 3.8, but somehow it
> > started to fail badly, with CTD.  So I uninstalled that one and
> > reinstalled the one from the Mint repository, which was 2.6.19.  All
> > seemed well. I tried to reinstall 3.6 and then 3.8, then 3.11, but the
> > installs failed in weird ways, which I didn't bother to document - my
> > goal was to get to 4.4 anyway.  So I gave up and grabbed the flatpak of
> > 4.4.  In all these versions, going up and down, the data file remained
> > perfect, and once I moved the "guts" of my aqbanking folder (archived
> > from version 3.8) into the correct folder for 4.4, my online banking
> > (downloads of transactions) also worked perfectly, and continue to
> > work.  The "guts" of the gnucash folder (the one holding the reports
> > templates) when copied from the 3.8 archive into the correct 4.4 folder
> > (under .var) seemed to go smoothly, and all my reports showed up fine,
> > and they run fine.  I just cannot edit or delete any one of them without
> > a CTD, and have to delete the settings6 folder to get them to show up
> > again.  All check and repair seems to do is look for imbalances across
> > the selected accounts, and it finds no problems.  It doesn't touch
> > report or online templates as far as I can see. So, as I said, my only
> > problem are editing my reports (running them works), and I see no way to
> > edit/resave them, since I CTD as soon as I try.
> > 
> > On 2/10/21 5:13 PM, David H wrote:
> > > Elmar,
> > > 
> > > Can I ask how you went from 2.6.19 to 4.4 flatpak?  ... For the
> > > reports you may have to open each and re-save the config after the 2.8
> > > update, I don't know.
> > > 
> > > Cheers David H.
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Christopher Lam]

Scheme backtraces are usually found at
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile but if flatpak hides them somewhere
obscure you can dump onto console via "gnucash --logto=stdout". See
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Logging

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 6:29 am Elmar,  wrote:

> The sequence of events was that I had been running 3.8, but somehow it
> started to fail badly, with CTD.  So I uninstalled that one and
> reinstalled the one from the Mint repository, which was 2.6.19.  All
> seemed well. I tried to reinstall 3.6 and then 3.8, then 3.11, but the
> installs failed in weird ways, which I didn't bother to document - my
> goal was to get to 4.4 anyway.  So I gave up and grabbed the flatpak of
> 4.4.  In all these versions, going up and down, the data file remained
> perfect, and once I moved the "guts" of my aqbanking folder (archived
> from version 3.8) into the correct folder for 4.4, my online banking
> (downloads of transactions) also worked perfectly, and continue to
> work.  The "guts" of the gnucash folder (the one holding the reports
> templates) when copied from the 3.8 archive into the correct 4.4 folder
> (under .var) seemed to go smoothly, and all my reports showed up fine,
> and they run fine.  I just cannot edit or delete any one of them without
> a CTD, and have to delete the settings6 folder to get them to show up
> again.  All check and repair seems to do is look for imbalances across
> the selected accounts, and it finds no problems.  It doesn't touch
> report or online templates as far as I can see. So, as I said, my only
> problem are editing my reports (running them works), and I see no way to
> edit/resave them, since I CTD as soon as I try.
>
> On 2/10/21 5:13 PM, David H wrote:
> > Elmar,
> >
> > Can I ask how you went from 2.6.19 to 4.4 flatpak?  ... For the
> > reports you may have to open each and re-save the config after the 2.8
> > update, I don't know.
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

The sequence of events was that I had been running 3.8, but somehow it 
started to fail badly, with CTD.  So I uninstalled that one and 
reinstalled the one from the Mint repository, which was 2.6.19.  All 
seemed well. I tried to reinstall 3.6 and then 3.8, then 3.11, but the 
installs failed in weird ways, which I didn't bother to document - my 
goal was to get to 4.4 anyway.  So I gave up and grabbed the flatpak of 
4.4.  In all these versions, going up and down, the data file remained 
perfect, and once I moved the "guts" of my aqbanking folder (archived 
from version 3.8) into the correct folder for 4.4, my online banking 
(downloads of transactions) also worked perfectly, and continue to 
work.  The "guts" of the gnucash folder (the one holding the reports 
templates) when copied from the 3.8 archive into the correct 4.4 folder 
(under .var) seemed to go smoothly, and all my reports showed up fine, 
and they run fine.  I just cannot edit or delete any one of them without 
a CTD, and have to delete the settings6 folder to get them to show up 
again.  All check and repair seems to do is look for imbalances across 
the selected accounts, and it finds no problems.  It doesn't touch 
report or online templates as far as I can see. So, as I said, my only 
problem are editing my reports (running them works), and I see no way to 
edit/resave them, since I CTD as soon as I try.


On 2/10/21 5:13 PM, David H wrote:

Elmar,

Can I ask how you went from 2.6.19 to 4.4 flatpak?  ... For the 
reports you may have to open each and re-save the config after the 2.8 
update, I don't know.


Cheers David H.



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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[David H]

Elmar,

Can I ask how you went from 2.6.19 to 4.4 flatpak?  Did you just open your
version 2.6.19 file in the latest flatpak version 4.4 or did you update to
version 3 and then version 4 to convert your gnucash file correctly?  I've
always understood you can't just go from 2.6.19 to 4.4, you have to install
version 3.0 first which updates things behind the scenes (not sure what it
does with reports) and then go to 4.0 and then to 4.4.  i.e. you have to go
to the next major release and I've seen recommendations to run check &
repair after going to the each next major release when catching up like
this. I think from memory it was the version 3.0 upgrade that converted
version 2.4 reports to version 2.8 but I could be wrong on this.  For the
reports you may have to open each and re-save the config after the 2.8
update, I don't know.

Cheers David H.




On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 02:27, Elmar  wrote:

> Thank all for the replies, but what are "scheme backtraces" and where do
> I find them?  and how do I "convert" my 2.4 reports to 4.4 compatible
> ones? - Elmar
>
> On 2/9/21 11:46 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> > Elmar,
> >
> > A fair amount of Scheme API was deprecated in 3.x and removed in 4.x.
> Look through the NEWS file for which ones. There should be Scheme
> backtraces in the trace file that will help identify the source of the
> crash.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Elmar  wrote:
> >>
> >> I just took the 2.4 file, copied it (CTRL-C/CTRL-V) and renamed it to
> 2.8.  Opened GC, tried to delete one report, and got a crash to desktop.
> So no joy there, unless I have misunderstood what you suggested.
> >>
> >> On 2/9/21 4:38 PM, David H wrote:
> >>> Elmar,
> >>>
> >>> Since you say they seem to run, why don't you try closing gnucash and
> then copying your saved-reports-2.4 to saved-reports-2.8, re-opening
> Gnucash and opening each saved report in turn and then if everything looks
> ok saving the config of each of your reports ?  I've upgraded over the
> years and am also using the flatpak version 4.4 on Ubuntu and have both a
> saved-reports-2.4 and a saved-reports-2.8 in the
> .var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ folder and the 2.4 version is
> just ignored.
> >>>
> >>> Just backup your files first of course.
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

Thank all for the replies, but what are "scheme backtraces" and where do 
I find them?  and how do I "convert" my 2.4 reports to 4.4 compatible 
ones? - Elmar


On 2/9/21 11:46 PM, John Ralls wrote:

Elmar,

A fair amount of Scheme API was deprecated in 3.x and removed in 4.x. Look 
through the NEWS file for which ones. There should be Scheme backtraces in the 
trace file that will help identify the source of the crash.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Elmar  wrote:

I just took the 2.4 file, copied it (CTRL-C/CTRL-V) and renamed it to 2.8.  
Opened GC, tried to delete one report, and got a crash to desktop.  So no joy 
there, unless I have misunderstood what you suggested.

On 2/9/21 4:38 PM, David H wrote:

Elmar,

Since you say they seem to run, why don't you try closing gnucash and then 
copying your saved-reports-2.4 to saved-reports-2.8, re-opening Gnucash and 
opening each saved report in turn and then if everything looks ok saving the 
config of each of your reports ?  I've upgraded over the years and am also 
using the flatpak version 4.4 on Ubuntu and have both a saved-reports-2.4 and a 
saved-reports-2.8 in the .var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ folder and 
the 2.4 version is just ignored.

Just backup your files first of course.

Cheers David H.

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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks Geert, that makes sense.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/10/21 3:24 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op woensdag 10 februari 2021 06:08:21 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone:

Out of curiosity, is there something to explain the numbering scheme for
reports? Is there a reason they don't follow the GnuCash version
pattern? (we're in version 4.x of GnuCash but reports go in a 2.8 folder)

This can get quite confusing when discussing app versions vs. reports.

Regards,
Adrien



We normally bump the file version number if we make incompatible changes.
There was in incompatible change between 2.6 and 3, but not between 2.4 and
2.6. So the 2.4 number was kept during the 2.6 series. 2.8 should ideally have
been named 3, but this version change to the saved-reports file was made at a
time we still thought we'd release a 2.8 series and was forgotten about when
we decided to go with 3 instead.

I don't remember if we did incompatible changes for the 4 series, but I think
not, hence the version number didn't bump.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 10 februari 2021 06:08:21 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> Out of curiosity, is there something to explain the numbering scheme for
> reports? Is there a reason they don't follow the GnuCash version
> pattern? (we're in version 4.x of GnuCash but reports go in a 2.8 folder)
> 
> This can get quite confusing when discussing app versions vs. reports.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 

We normally bump the file version number if we make incompatible changes. 
There was in incompatible change between 2.6 and 3, but not between 2.4 and 
2.6. So the 2.4 number was kept during the 2.6 series. 2.8 should ideally have  
been named 3, but this version change to the saved-reports file was made at a 
time we still thought we'd release a 2.8 series and was forgotten about when 
we decided to go with 3 instead.

I don't remember if we did incompatible changes for the 4 series, but I think 
not, hence the version number didn't bump.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi Adrien,

Am 10.02.21 um 06:08 schrieb Adrien Monteleone:
> Out of curiosity, is there something to explain the numbering scheme for
> reports? Is there a reason they don't follow the GnuCash version
> pattern? (we're in version 4.x of GnuCash but reports go in a 2.8 folder)

why changing the version number if there are no changes in the file
structure?

Regards
Frank
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Adrien Monteleone]

Out of curiosity, is there something to explain the numbering scheme for 
reports? Is there a reason they don't follow the GnuCash version 
pattern? (we're in version 4.x of GnuCash but reports go in a 2.8 folder)


This can get quite confusing when discussing app versions vs. reports.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/9/21 10:46 PM, John Ralls wrote:

Elmar,

A fair amount of Scheme API was deprecated in 3.x and removed in 4.x. Look 
through the NEWS file for which ones. There should be Scheme backtraces in the 
trace file that will help identify the source of the crash.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[John Ralls]

Elmar,

A fair amount of Scheme API was deprecated in 3.x and removed in 4.x. Look 
through the NEWS file for which ones. There should be Scheme backtraces in the 
trace file that will help identify the source of the crash.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Elmar  wrote:
> 
> I just took the 2.4 file, copied it (CTRL-C/CTRL-V) and renamed it to 2.8.  
> Opened GC, tried to delete one report, and got a crash to desktop.  So no joy 
> there, unless I have misunderstood what you suggested.
> 
> On 2/9/21 4:38 PM, David H wrote:
>> Elmar,
>> 
>> Since you say they seem to run, why don't you try closing gnucash and then 
>> copying your saved-reports-2.4 to saved-reports-2.8, re-opening Gnucash and 
>> opening each saved report in turn and then if everything looks ok saving the 
>> config of each of your reports ?  I've upgraded over the years and am also 
>> using the flatpak version 4.4 on Ubuntu and have both a saved-reports-2.4 
>> and a saved-reports-2.8 in the .var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ 
>> folder and the 2.4 version is just ignored.
>> 
>> Just backup your files first of course.
>> 
>> Cheers David H.
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

I just took the 2.4 file, copied it (CTRL-C/CTRL-V) and renamed it to 
2.8.  Opened GC, tried to delete one report, and got a crash to 
desktop.  So no joy there, unless I have misunderstood what you suggested.


On 2/9/21 4:38 PM, David H wrote:

Elmar,

Since you say they seem to run, why don't you try closing gnucash and 
then copying your saved-reports-2.4 to saved-reports-2.8, re-opening 
Gnucash and opening each saved report in turn and then if everything 
looks ok saving the config of each of your reports ?  I've upgraded 
over the years and am also using the flatpak version 4.4 on Ubuntu and 
have both a saved-reports-2.4 and a saved-reports-2.8 in 
the .var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ folder and the 2.4 
version is just ignored.


Just backup your files first of course.

Cheers David H.


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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[David H]

Elmar,

Since you say they seem to run, why don't you try closing gnucash and then
copying your saved-reports-2.4 to saved-reports-2.8, re-opening Gnucash and
opening each saved report in turn and then if everything looks ok saving
the config of each of your reports ?  I've upgraded over the years and am
also using the flatpak version 4.4 on Ubuntu and have both a
saved-reports-2.4 and a saved-reports-2.8 in
the .var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ folder and the 2.4 version
is just ignored.

Just backup your files first of course.

Cheers David H.

On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 07:18, Elmar  wrote:

> Since they do run and do extract the correct data OK, can I simply
> resave them, or if not, trivially alter some aspect to save under a new
> name to avoid having to remember what I all tweaked in each of them?
>
> On 2/9/21 4:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It is certainly true that 2.6 reports are not compatible with 4.4.  So
> > yes, I would expect saved reports to not have made the transition.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > On Tue, February 9, 2021 3:58 pm, Elmar wrote:
> >> Running the flatpak 4.4 on Linux Mint 19.3 - I've copied my version
> >> 2.6.19 reports into the gnucash folder in
> >> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash (saved reports
> >> 2.4).  They al show up and run fine, BUT as soon as I try to delete one
> >> of them, I get a CTD, a locked data file, and when I start the programk
> >> (open anyway) and reopen the reports menu, only 2 of the many reports I
> >> have saved show up.  Is ther a fundamental incompatability with the
> >> report?  I can get my reports back if I delete the file
> >> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8
> >> and they do run, but I cannot delete any of them, and trying to export
> >> their output results in the same crash.  Do I have to recreate ALL my
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Derek Atkins]

Honestly, I don't know.  Hopefully Geert or John or Chris will reply with
more authoritative answers.

-derek

On Tue, February 9, 2021 4:17 pm, Elmar wrote:
> Since they do run and do extract the correct data OK, can I simply
> resave them, or if not, trivially alter some aspect to save under a new
> name to avoid having to remember what I all tweaked in each of them?
>
> On 2/9/21 4:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is certainly true that 2.6 reports are not compatible with 4.4.  So
>> yes, I would expect saved reports to not have made the transition.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Tue, February 9, 2021 3:58 pm, Elmar wrote:
>>> Running the flatpak 4.4 on Linux Mint 19.3 - I've copied my version
>>> 2.6.19 reports into the gnucash folder in
>>> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash (saved reports
>>> 2.4).  They al show up and run fine, BUT as soon as I try to delete one
>>> of them, I get a CTD, a locked data file, and when I start the programk
>>> (open anyway) and reopen the reports menu, only 2 of the many reports I
>>> have saved show up.  Is ther a fundamental incompatability with the
>>> report?  I can get my reports back if I delete the file
>>> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8
>>> and they do run, but I cannot delete any of them, and trying to export
>>> their output results in the same crash.  Do I have to recreate ALL my
>>> reports in the new version of GC?
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Elmar]

Since they do run and do extract the correct data OK, can I simply 
resave them, or if not, trivially alter some aspect to save under a new 
name to avoid having to remember what I all tweaked in each of them?


On 2/9/21 4:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

It is certainly true that 2.6 reports are not compatible with 4.4.  So
yes, I would expect saved reports to not have made the transition.

-derek

On Tue, February 9, 2021 3:58 pm, Elmar wrote:

Running the flatpak 4.4 on Linux Mint 19.3 - I've copied my version
2.6.19 reports into the gnucash folder in
/home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash (saved reports
2.4).  They al show up and run fine, BUT as soon as I try to delete one
of them, I get a CTD, a locked data file, and when I start the programk
(open anyway) and reopen the reports menu, only 2 of the many reports I
have saved show up.  Is ther a fundamental incompatability with the
report?  I can get my reports back if I delete the file
/home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8
and they do run, but I cannot delete any of them, and trying to export
their output results in the same crash.  Do I have to recreate ALL my
reports in the new version of GC?
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Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

It is certainly true that 2.6 reports are not compatible with 4.4.  So
yes, I would expect saved reports to not have made the transition.

-derek

On Tue, February 9, 2021 3:58 pm, Elmar wrote:
> Running the flatpak 4.4 on Linux Mint 19.3 - I've copied my version
> 2.6.19 reports into the gnucash folder in
> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash (saved reports
> 2.4).  They al show up and run fine, BUT as soon as I try to delete one
> of them, I get a CTD, a locked data file, and when I start the programk
> (open anyway) and reopen the reports menu, only 2 of the many reports I
> have saved show up.  Is ther a fundamental incompatability with the
> report?  I can get my reports back if I delete the file
> /home/ets/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8
> and they do run, but I cannot delete any of them, and trying to export
> their output results in the same crash.  Do I have to recreate ALL my
> reports in the new version of GC?
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