Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-24 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
That peach colored area threw me as well; it is the main difference between the 
editor and a register. That was what I referred to earlier. Glad you got it 
figured out. 

 
 
  On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:45, aegross wrote:   Fred Bone 
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>  
> This seems strange. Using 2.6.17 on Windows, I did this: 

I upgraded to .17 on my Mac and the ACTION field is working fine.  That
said, I may have been all along clicking in the peach colored area instead
of the green colored area -- a true PEBKAC error.

Thanks for your assistance!

Andrew

 




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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-24 Thread aegross
Fred Bone wrote
>  
> This seems strange. Using 2.6.17 on Windows, I did this: 

I upgraded to .17 on my Mac and the ACTION field is working fine.  That
said, I may have been all along clicking in the peach colored area instead
of the green colored area -- a true PEBKAC error.

Thanks for your assistance!

Andrew

 




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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-24 Thread Fred Bone
On 23 July 2017 at 19:34, aegross said:

> GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> > the Action field in a given transaction. 
> 
> I am **not** talking about the ACTION  field in any particular account
> register.  Rather,  once a scheduled transaction has been setup; if that
> transaction is going to be edited, it needs to be edited in the Scheduled
> Transaction Editor.  I am saying that in that Editor, the action field
> does not work.This is **somewhat** similar to Bugzilla bug 776564
> where the notes field had a problem **in the Editor**. 

This seems strange. Using 2.6.17 on Windows, I did this:

- go to SX Editor
- pick a random SX
- adjust its "frequency" so it appears now due
- go to the "template" tab
- left-click on a random split under "Num"
 (this selects the split, and the column heading changes to "Action")
- left-click on the button in the "Action" field
 (this produces the dropdown list of Actions)
- pick a random Action from the list
- hit "Enter" to confirm the change
- "OK" 
- Actions->Scheduled Transactions->Since Last Run
- go to one of the registers affected by the new txn
- open Split view on the new txn
- observe that the selected Action is indeed present

This works exactly as I would expect it to work. It also lets me type 
arbitrary text into the Action, and that also shows up in the generated 
txn.

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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread Dave H
OK Andrew, I think I understand now - you are referring to the Action field
when you click on a "split" line of a transaction you're editing.in the
Scheduled Transaction editor - not something I use or have really noticed
to be frank :-)

I guess you're saying that like the notes field in bug 776564  that you
mentioned if you enter a select a value in the drop down list it's not
being copied to the final transaction created by the scheduled transaction
function.?

Cheers Dave H

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On 24 July 2017 at 12:34, aegross  wrote:

> GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> > the Action field in a given transaction.
>
> I am **not** talking about the ACTION  field in any particular account
> register.  Rather,  once a scheduled transaction has been setup; if that
> transaction is going to be edited, it needs to be edited in the Scheduled
> Transaction Editor.  I am saying that in that Editor, the action field does
> not work.This is **somewhat** similar to Bugzilla bug 776564 where the
> notes field had a problem **in the Editor**.
>
>
> GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> > re few extra developer cycles for edge cases.
>
> Totally understood!  Just wanted to know where to record my 2 cents.
>
> Best,
> AEG
>
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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Andrew, 
I believe that you and I are talking about the same field, and that you are NOT 
talking about the Actions menu,  which Dave H. was talking about. 
I specifically said the action field in a _transaction_; whether that 
transaction is in a register or the transaction editor should be, I believe,  
immaterial. If there is a behavioral difference between them, that would be an 
issue. 
That was why I asked you what specific steps you were taking to arrive at this 
conclusion, to see if the problem can be reproduced. 

Again, taking into account that I don't use scheduled transactions much, I do 
recall that the transaction editor is slightly different from a normal 
register, and that there is an extra line that is not present in a normal 
register. That confused me the few times I tried to edit transactions there. 
I should add that the devs say they prefer noting enhancements either in 
Bugzilla or on Uservoice, precisely because requests on the lists get lost. I'm 
not sure there is a clear delineation of when to use which. 
Cheers, David 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 7:55, aegross wrote:   GnuCash - 
User mailing list wrote
> the Action field in a given transaction. 

I am **not** talking about the ACTION  field in any particular account
register.  Rather,  once a scheduled transaction has been setup; if that
transaction is going to be edited, it needs to be edited in the Scheduled
Transaction Editor.  I am saying that in that Editor, the action field does
not work.    This is **somewhat** similar to Bugzilla bug 776564 where the
notes field had a problem **in the Editor**. 


GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> re few extra developer cycles for edge cases.

Totally understood!  Just wanted to know where to record my 2 cents.

Best,
AEG





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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread aegross
GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> the Action field in a given transaction. 

I am **not** talking about the ACTION  field in any particular account
register.  Rather,  once a scheduled transaction has been setup; if that
transaction is going to be edited, it needs to be edited in the Scheduled
Transaction Editor.  I am saying that in that Editor, the action field does
not work.This is **somewhat** similar to Bugzilla bug 776564 where the
notes field had a problem **in the Editor**. 


GnuCash - User mailing list wrote
> re few extra developer cycles for edge cases.

Totally understood!  Just wanted to know where to record my 2 cents.

Best,
AEG





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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread D via gnucash-user
Hi,

I don't use scheduled transactions much.

I also don't know what Andrew is referring to. Dave seems to think it's the 
menu for actions, but Andrew's last message suggests he is talking about the 
Action field in a given transaction. A little more clarity will help here. If 
it is the field, explain specifically what you are trying, what exactly you 
expect, and what exactly you see.

As for the question about enhancement requests, they certainly can go in 
Bugzilla, but it is wise first to be sure you have a good sense of what you 
want and why (and how GnuCash fails to meet that), as there are few extra 
developer cycles for edge cases. I'm not saying such requests fall on deaf 
ears, just that the devs are busy with some major overhauls.

David

On July 24, 2017, at 3:45 AM, Dave H  wrote:

I don't think the Action menu changed for the Scheduled Transactions from
2.6.16 to 2.6.17 but I could be wrong.  It's not something I ever use but
it's there in 2.6.17 in both the Windows and Linux versions.  I thought
there was an issue with icons/menu items on Mac but I could be wrong.  John
Ralls or David T (?) might be able to confirm this for you as I think
they're both running on Mac ?

Check out the GnuCash User Voice feature list at
https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request which is the
preferred method of suggesting/requesting enhancements from memory 

Cheers Dave H.


On 24 July 2017 at 08:15, aegross  wrote:

> Dave H wrote
> > As far as I'm concerned on Windows 10 it displays a subset of menu items
> > that relate to the Scheduled Transactions which is all I care about when
> > I'm in the Scheduled Transaction editor :-)
>
> Dave, I am using Mac OS X, GC v2.6.16.  Perhaps the editor was updated in
> the current version (v.17) to allow changes.  In v.16 the editor does not
> allow any changes in the ACTIONS field.  I will upgrade my GC shortly and
> try again.
>
> But more than the specific feature, I was trying to get a feel for whether
> Bugzilla should be used for requesting enhancements.  I often see
> enhancements requested via email, but that seems sort of chaotic and puts
> it
> on the development staff to cull requests.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread Dave H
I don't think the Action menu changed for the Scheduled Transactions from
2.6.16 to 2.6.17 but I could be wrong.  It's not something I ever use but
it's there in 2.6.17 in both the Windows and Linux versions.  I thought
there was an issue with icons/menu items on Mac but I could be wrong.  John
Ralls or David T (?) might be able to confirm this for you as I think
they're both running on Mac ?

Check out the GnuCash User Voice feature list at
https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request which is the
preferred method of suggesting/requesting enhancements from memory 

Cheers Dave H.


On 24 July 2017 at 08:15, aegross  wrote:

> Dave H wrote
> > As far as I'm concerned on Windows 10 it displays a subset of menu items
> > that relate to the Scheduled Transactions which is all I care about when
> > I'm in the Scheduled Transaction editor :-)
>
> Dave, I am using Mac OS X, GC v2.6.16.  Perhaps the editor was updated in
> the current version (v.17) to allow changes.  In v.16 the editor does not
> allow any changes in the ACTIONS field.  I will upgrade my GC shortly and
> try again.
>
> But more than the specific feature, I was trying to get a feel for whether
> Bugzilla should be used for requesting enhancements.  I often see
> enhancements requested via email, but that seems sort of chaotic and puts
> it
> on the development staff to cull requests.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-23 Thread aegross
Dave H wrote
> As far as I'm concerned on Windows 10 it displays a subset of menu items
> that relate to the Scheduled Transactions which is all I care about when
> I'm in the Scheduled Transaction editor :-) 

Dave, I am using Mac OS X, GC v2.6.16.  Perhaps the editor was updated in
the current version (v.17) to allow changes.  In v.16 the editor does not
allow any changes in the ACTIONS field.  I will upgrade my GC shortly and
try again.

But more than the specific feature, I was trying to get a feel for whether
Bugzilla should be used for requesting enhancements.  I often see
enhancements requested via email, but that seems sort of chaotic and puts it
on the development staff to cull requests. 

Thanks,
Andrew

 



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Re: Scheduled transactions editor does not include ACTION feature | Use Bugzilla

2017-07-21 Thread Dave H
As far as I'm concerned on Windows 10 it displays a subset of menu items
that relate to the Scheduled Transactions which is all I care about when
I'm in the Scheduled Transaction editor :-)

You'll find different Action menu items depending on whether the Accounts
tab has the focus or one of the other register tabs has focus - the menu
items are different for each scenario.

If I want to use any of the other Action menu options which in my case is
it's a simple click on one of the other tabs to use that functionality
which seems more appropriate.

What are you lacking that you want all the other items displayed in the
Action Menu ?
.
Cheers Dave H.


On 22 July 2017 at 08:53, aegross  wrote:

> The scheduled transactions editor does not include the (menu) functionality
> of the ACTIONS field.  The ACTIONS field cannot be manually used either in
> the editor.  Would it be appropriate to request an enhancement to bring the
> ACTIONS menu to the editor via bugzilla?
>
> Thanks,
> AEG
>
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2017-07-21 Thread aegross
The scheduled transactions editor does not include the (menu) functionality
of the ACTIONS field.  The ACTIONS field cannot be manually used either in
the editor.  Would it be appropriate to request an enhancement to bring the
ACTIONS menu to the editor via bugzilla?

Thanks,
AEG

 



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