Re: gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[John Ralls]

> On Aug 3, 2017, at 8:37 PM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:24 PM, John Griessen 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.
>> 
>> Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
>> If not, why not?
>> 
>> I still use this version on debian stretch/testing/frozen, soon to be the
>> new released debian stable:
>> 
> 
> For now I presume you might switch to using the version at getdeb.net
> though I don't know your particular requirements. Another option, of
> course, is to build it yourself. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
> though it looks like a lot on that page is kindof stale, and it doesn't
> link you to the pages describing how to build from git or a tarball -- see
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
> 
> HOWEVER I have been seeing warnings from Debian for several weeks now about
> GnuCash's impending removal from Testing.
> 
> In past years this has been because of a packaging issue, which always
> seems to get resolved by the maintainer before the deadline and things go
> on normally.
> 
> This time it was apparently more fundamental -- the warnings were because
> GnuCash depends upon webkitgtk:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866671
> 
> "webkitgtk: Unmaintained, not suitable for buster"
> 
> Again I presumed this is a fairly straightforward issue, but on July 31st I
> saw this email:
> 
> 
> Debian testing watch 
>> to gnucash
>> FYI: The status of the gnucash source package
>> in Debian's testing distribution has changed.
>>  Previous version: 1:2.6.17-1
>>  Current version:  (not in testing)
>>  Hint: 
>>Bug #790204: gnucash: depends on libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 which is deprecated
>> The script that generates this mail tries to extract removal
>> reasons from comments in the britney hint files. Those comments
>> were not originally meant to be machine readable, so if the
>> reason for removing your package seems to be nonsense, it is
>> probably the reporting script that got confused. Please check the
>> actual hints file before you complain about meaningless removals.
> 
> 
> Here's the link to that bug:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790204
> 
> The same volunteer has maintained the Debian GnuCash package for years. I
> presume he might have contacted the GnuCash developers for guidance, but I
> haven't noticed any messages from him go across the gnucash-dev email list.
> 
> I HAVE seen discussions about updating the webkit dependencies, but if
> there was any particular urgency I didn't notice.

Yes, the webkit1 dependency will be replaced with webkit2 for Unix (webkit2gtk 
doesn't support windows) in 2.8.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[Tommy Trussell]

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:24 PM, John Griessen 
wrote:

> I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.
>
> Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
> If not, why not?
>
> I still use this version on debian stretch/testing/frozen, soon to be the
> new released debian stable:
>

For now I presume you might switch to using the version at getdeb.net
though I don't know your particular requirements. Another option, of
course, is to build it yourself. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
though it looks like a lot on that page is kindof stale, and it doesn't
link you to the pages describing how to build from git or a tarball -- see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building

HOWEVER I have been seeing warnings from Debian for several weeks now about
GnuCash's impending removal from Testing.

In past years this has been because of a packaging issue, which always
seems to get resolved by the maintainer before the deadline and things go
on normally.

This time it was apparently more fundamental -- the warnings were because
GnuCash depends upon webkitgtk:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866671

"webkitgtk: Unmaintained, not suitable for buster"

Again I presumed this is a fairly straightforward issue, but on July 31st I
saw this email:


Debian testing watch 
> to gnucash
> FYI: The status of the gnucash source package
> in Debian's testing distribution has changed.
>   Previous version: 1:2.6.17-1
>   Current version:  (not in testing)
>   Hint: 
> Bug #790204: gnucash: depends on libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 which is deprecated
> The script that generates this mail tries to extract removal
> reasons from comments in the britney hint files. Those comments
> were not originally meant to be machine readable, so if the
> reason for removing your package seems to be nonsense, it is
> probably the reporting script that got confused. Please check the
> actual hints file before you complain about meaningless removals.


Here's the link to that bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790204

The same volunteer has maintained the Debian GnuCash package for years. I
presume he might have contacted the GnuCash developers for guidance, but I
haven't noticed any messages from him go across the gnucash-dev email list.

I HAVE seen discussions about updating the webkit dependencies, but if
there was any particular urgency I didn't notice.




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Re: gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[Liz]

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 20:24:24 -0500
John Griessen  wrote:

> I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.
> 
> Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
> If not, why not?
> 
> 
> I still use this version on debian stretch/testing/frozen, soon to be
> the new released debian stable:
> 
> sudo apt-get purge gnucash-docs gnucash-common gnucash
> sudo dpkg -i gnucash_1%3a2.6.14-1_amd64.deb
> gnucash-common_1%3a2.6.14-1_all.deb
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John, I've forgotten why you can't use a later Gnucash deb package.
I'm using 2.6.15 which I just got with apt-get update / apt-get
upgrade in the usual manner. My Debian is buster / sid.

$ gnucash -v
GnuCash 2.6.15
This copy was built from rev 1ef17e6+ on 2016-12-21.
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Re: gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[Colin Law]

On 2 August 2017 at 02:24, John Griessen  wrote:
> I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.
>
> Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
> If not, why not?

You would probably have to direct that question to whoever packages it
for Debian.  If you want the latest then the easiest way is probably
to get it from getdeb.  That works on Ubuntu so I assume it is ok for
Debian.

Colin
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Re: gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[David Carlson]

Is that the new package  of release 2.6.17 from getdeb that I just tried to
download into Ubuntu and have not had time to test yet?

David C

On Aug 1, 2017 8:25 PM, "John Griessen"  wrote:

> I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.
>
> Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
> If not, why not?
>
>
> I still use this version on debian stretch/testing/frozen, soon to be the
> new released debian stable:
>
> sudo apt-get purge gnucash-docs gnucash-common gnucash
> sudo dpkg -i gnucash_1%3a2.6.14-1_amd64.deb gnucash-common_1%3a2.6.14-1_al
> l.deb
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gnucash update on debian errors, then stops

[John Griessen]

I have not been able to upgrade gnucash for a while now.

Will there be a usable gnucash in the next debian release?
If not, why not?


I still use this version on debian stretch/testing/frozen, soon to be the new 
released debian stable:

sudo apt-get purge gnucash-docs gnucash-common gnucash
sudo dpkg -i gnucash_1%3a2.6.14-1_amd64.deb gnucash-common_1%3a2.6.14-1_all.deb
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