Re: US banks that can send PGP/MIME e-mail
On Friday 22 February 2013 19:24:44 Anonymous Remailer wrote: Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so monthly statements can be trully *delivered*? The only bank I know that is able to receive pgp encrypted emails is the German netbank. But they don't sent out pgp encrypted emails to their customers. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: US banks that can send PGP/MIME e-mail
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated: On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so monthly statements can be truly *delivered*? OpenPGP, no, because there's no business case for them to do so. OpenPGP users represent a phenomenally small fraction of their userbase (probably 1%) and would account for a large fraction of their tech support questions. S/MIME, yes, some banks have discovered the benefit. However that's still mostly a business-to-bank thing as opposed to consumer-to-bank, since S/MIME is a technology that's not exactly ready for consumers. I find your statement regarding S/MIME erroneous; however, we can just agree to disagree on that matter. Neither one of us will ever win the argument. My bank and credit card company, sends me a monthly link to a secure URL that affords me the opportunity to view my statements. I also have the option of downloading in PDF, CSV or MS Excel format my statement. I have never received a plain email statement detailing my banking records. Unless I am seriously misreading this thread, I am not sure what advantage either PGP or S/MIME would afford. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: US banks that can send PGP/MIME e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 m...@jama.is wrote: On Friday 22 February 2013 19:24:44 Anonymous Remailer wrote: Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so monthly statements can be trully *delivered*? The only bank I know that is able to receive pgp encrypted emails is the German netbank. But they don't sent out pgp encrypted emails to their customers. There is a nordic bank that generates s/mime certificates for its customers. Because everybody has to have a registered address (at least in Norway) they send a password to that address. You have to present the certificate to login on the web. - -- Andy Ruddock - andy.rudd...@rainydayz.org (GPG Key ID 0xB0324245) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRKLfEAAoJECqtbbewMkJFy7MQAKF5ShSJmWu6rsuNWDBP9m+E qh+Xq5HFtkha8b7UK4+9mvNqNu2QGzXMufoxmRpiWDiWiKdPaZDVi22qh2BFcSam zLu+tlnDb8qdQeEeXDa58/0idxw/Et/VBINLLHubOERAezz9BIlrBM3XU6kRPRtF kQ0kqoFmzXYhq4gTL2RMf570M4GSS2CfTbWqup1+ArbiSeOdTb9GIbDebwMW6IrV nebwDWc8NiV3I2SkiWGhBROvMAtA2YcIuSEBcsdUNPZFftTzcvxC/wym6+SCQgRc AIibz5SLVaLZsnIbC/H62XGufz/bDINim03pnvTinEbgtqkUQLyxGs7RUZp/FVVC cs12/hmCkT350RSgk44yooFQ7Kx843d11KSofBIvMwLWSRue0qw+h0aGiOBV7WHa XaIEvJz83jVoH378WDcf8BffFdO+DtFoAob9VdJJoHarXPTw8kPHRqR2HL6Bcsfd MZ4VA7IoJz3xpW6XhrFL9z05Lnqno6bB9mDjcQtXMR1su0rDgGD1nCf4HSaVY9Lw u/RNcCzT7qHR1/dhKBzCUIaPyBquD7ml6SPLh791SJ1ZTs3yVf3AmTX/d6NEbAuo L/tpg/7EHdbUWz9Tu7IVQJ6XqdVi56Z9455C7MHQoIGpxMnUp7ftTFAII11vgyEh gu1OsmAvHsWkpGdHi1xQ =7KPs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: US banks that can send PGP/MIME e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated: On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so monthly statements can be truly *delivered*? [snip] My bank and credit card company, sends me a monthly link to a secure URL that affords me the opportunity to view my statements. I also have the option of downloading in PDF, CSV or MS Excel format my statement. I have never received a plain email statement detailing my banking records. Unless I am seriously misreading this thread, I am not sure what advantage either PGP or S/MIME would afford. The point being that you get a link. If the banks used PGP or S/MIME then they could actually send you your statements. - -- Andy Ruddock - andy.rudd...@rainydayz.org (GPG Key ID 0xB0324245) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRKNK+AAoJECqtbbewMkJFFhgQAJg0hLk8qlULy1Q6PklWVLjh f/ZAdoYnt3ywDdbY3muX7KduSfhjVEUJJnm4oM0v6ivMqul7HT+6cB4/6ML/rtR1 Hf073dVMi8VhEWcMxxm6KS/9vORVpE2zUHhfR/FCkkJLy4cVIwTou0pljwPhsOud dVj5gaynQpjMSUSNF9WfxL3LEB2l29j5iLWWS5LChnJzpstkKAkW/tlnuEf/K5Ns aKmP4TsJJDeh/nCbbry68j3eY2gVT2V4JVLdfpwf0NnHa4uD6hikh+a6Hn09MTe8 lpBi/jXv0fs8ApXq9VAqmzs5tJ0bwNV9b5TBdUaEupx4fRAhhnIxjL5S4cw4payo FwyKDoepzMj5a+q+6szDKn5D/FP5Wi+lat7TwfNxxMw4HqOHn2Jau2y8846WFNlL e8xiPneRTkI5OlannjFVEV7BFlHTFw2XhrpjZMU0ceBpvoHyEx1nm3hHdOPjFkpd h/WY7cUZJudGAgTwuY68M6ACRKWYNZ0THk1S4hvB4IoRIW1mGtnGW9Zh3SLZ03OS TIfCvXLkD4XrQ9OfdFMVVWMj1mpQ9M/GFDKJ4Kg6OzX6tJVxu7liVD09lRD1nQRO MXXuME8eZr0sqFWxNpE79PyEoUfN3qujfGMtcEAXuAh6T6YF9AWR/hteVkfIHswX tqYz9lqObnl9GFdc5Kms =3Lqg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: US banks that can send PGP/MIME e-mail
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:31:26 + Andy Ruddock articulated: Jerry wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:55:57 -0500 Robert J. Hansen articulated: On 02/22/2013 01:24 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: Have any consumer banks in the US figured out how to use PGP, so monthly statements can be truly *delivered*? [snip] My bank and credit card company, sends me a monthly link to a secure URL that affords me the opportunity to view my statements. I also have the option of downloading in PDF, CSV or MS Excel format my statement. I have never received a plain email statement detailing my banking records. Unless I am seriously misreading this thread, I am not sure what advantage either PGP or S/MIME would afford. The point being that you get a link. If the banks used PGP or S/MIME then they could actually send you your statements. Well, each to his/her own I suppose; however, I would not approve of the file being sent to my PC regardless. There is always the possibility of the email being intercepted and exploited or my PC being compromised. If I want confidential information delivered to my PC, that should be my business. If an institution wanted to offer that option, and thereby being issued a released of responsibility, I have no objections to it. I do not consider the clicking on of a secure link and downloading the document to be an inconvenience, but rather a security feature, especially when the documents(s) can be downloaded in several formats. I realize that not everyone will agree with me. Que Sera, Sera -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
