Re: Counterarguments Supporting GnuPG over Off The Record (OTR)

2017-01-19 Thread Christian Heinrich 
Stephan,

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Stephan Beck  wrote:
> 15-20 years from now, OpenPGP will have expired and be a case of study
> for computer historians.

I doubt this as PGP was published ~25 years ago (on 5 June 1991) and
has outlasted the modern operating system support to hardware
manufactured in the 1990s.


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Re: spr332 vs spr532

2017-01-19 Thread NIIBE Yutaka 
Hello,

Elizabeth Ferdman  wrote:
> I'm interning for the PGP Clean Room and am trying to get an OpenPGP
> Card reader. Kernelconcepts is offering a SPR332 which is the successor
> to the 532. According to this page, though,
>
> https://wiki.gnupg.org/CardReader/PinpadInput

I wrote this page, when I added the support of pinpad input to scdaemon.

> the 532 seems to be recommended but the 332 is not. I'm wondering if
> there's a specific reason why it was left out and if I should go for the
> 532 instead.

Since Werner has SCM SPR 532, it was tested and listed.  Please note
that the list is not for recommendation (as of today); Vasco DigiPASS
920 (which I have) worked, but it only supports key length <= 1024-bit
of RSA.  Gnuk Token is listed, but it has no hardware pinpad, in fact.
Some other readers were listed because they requires special handling to
work around issues of their firmware.

I think that: if you need a tested reader, go for the 532.  If you have
time and energy, go for the 332 and please let us know if it works or
not.  I guess that it is likely work well with PC/SC and we need a bit
of change for the internal CCID driver of GnuPG.  If it will work, I'll
put it on the list.  That will be a great contribution to GnuPG
community.
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spr332 vs spr532

2017-01-19 Thread Elizabeth Ferdman 
Hello, 
I'm interning for the PGP Clean Room and am trying to get an OpenPGP
Card reader. Kernelconcepts is offering a SPR332 which is the successor
to the 532. According to this page, though,

https://wiki.gnupg.org/CardReader/PinpadInput

the 532 seems to be recommended but the 332 is not. I'm wondering if
there's a specific reason why it was left out and if I should go for the
532 instead.

Thank you,
Elizabeth


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Re: Counterarguments Supporting GnuPG over Off The Record (OTR)

2017-01-19 Thread Jean-David Beyer 
On 01/19/2017 04:06 AM, Stephan Beck wrote:
> 15-20 years from now, OpenPGP will have expired and be a case of study
> for computer historians.
> 

I agree. 20 years from now, we will all be using telepathy, and the
telephone and Internet will be redundant. Without electromagnetic
communication, and without paper communication, we will be unable to
encrypt anything. Will there be an equivalent to OpenPGP that works with
telepathy?


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Re: Counterarguments Supporting GnuPG over Off The Record (OTR)

2017-01-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen 
> 15-20 years from now, OpenPGP will have expired and be a case of study
> for computer historians.

Maybe.  So what?  15-20 years from now many of us will have expired and
only be of interest to our families.

Everything dies.  That doesn't make things less valuable.

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Re: Counterarguments Supporting GnuPG over Off The Record (OTR)

2017-01-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
Nice to have a clairvoyant and soothsayer in this mailing list. Would
you dare to make a similar statement on the fate of windows or Linux?

:)

Bernhard


Am 19.01.2017 um 10:06 schrieb Stephan Beck:
> 15-20 years from now, OpenPGP will have expired and be a case of study
> for computer historians.
>
> Christian Heinrich:
>> https://www.foo.be/2016/12/OpenPGP-really-works outlines a number of
>> counter-arguments in support of GnuPG over OTR chat app and other
>> alternatives.
>>
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Re: Counterarguments Supporting GnuPG over Off The Record (OTR)

2017-01-19 Thread Stephan Beck 
15-20 years from now, OpenPGP will have expired and be a case of study
for computer historians.

Christian Heinrich:
> https://www.foo.be/2016/12/OpenPGP-really-works outlines a number of
> counter-arguments in support of GnuPG over OTR chat app and other
> alternatives.
> 

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