Re: pinetry and emacs

2021-02-09 Thread Phillip Susi


Christian Chavez writes:

> Have you tried checking with update-alternatives which pinentry is default
> selected?
> I remember having to switch mine from pinentry-gnome to pinentry-tty on my
> machine (I don't use emacs though).

It was pinentry-curses.  I tried switching to pinentry-tty and it rapes
the tty even worse than the curses one.  At least some keystrokes
occasionally had some effect with the curses one.  With This one nothing
I hit would do anything.  Couldn't get it to eventually think I entered
a wrong password and give up, couldn't C-c, C-g, or C-z; I just had to
use ~. to force ssh to hang up.  Why and how is this program so abusive
of the terminal?

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Re: pinetry and emacs

2021-02-09 Thread Christian Chavez via Gnupg-users
Have you tried checking with update-alternatives which pinentry is default
selected?
I remember having to switch mine from pinentry-gnome to pinentry-tty on my
machine (I don't use emacs though).

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:22 PM Phillip Susi  wrote:

> I have installed the pinetry module and run M-x pinentry-start, as well
> as added allow-emacs-pinentry to ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf, yet whenever I
> try signing an email in mu4e, pinentry gets into a fight with emacs over
> the tty and everything goes all fscked up.  Why is this?  Why does
> pinentry still try to take over the terminal instead of contacting
> emacs?  For that matter, why can both programs fight over it?  I thoguht
> only one process group was the foreground group, and only that process
> group could read input from the tty.  Instead it seems like both
> programs are reading some of the input and so I can't get emacs to
> switch buffers, nor pinentry to enter the correct password, nor cancel.
>
> I'm on Ubuntu 20.04 with pinentry 1.1.0 and emacs 26.3.
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pinetry and emacs

2021-02-09 Thread Phillip Susi
I have installed the pinetry module and run M-x pinentry-start, as well
as added allow-emacs-pinentry to ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf, yet whenever I
try signing an email in mu4e, pinentry gets into a fight with emacs over
the tty and everything goes all fscked up.  Why is this?  Why does
pinentry still try to take over the terminal instead of contacting
emacs?  For that matter, why can both programs fight over it?  I thoguht
only one process group was the foreground group, and only that process
group could read input from the tty.  Instead it seems like both
programs are reading some of the input and so I can't get emacs to
switch buffers, nor pinentry to enter the correct password, nor cancel.

I'm on Ubuntu 20.04 with pinentry 1.1.0 and emacs 26.3.

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Re: Protect email experience not Subject:s (hypothesis, draft)

2021-02-09 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Freitag, 29. Januar 2021, 17:52:25 CET schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
> From an implementers point of view, protected headers seem to make
> it more complicated and break some ways to implement good access
> to emails.

As Thunderbird as enabled "encrypted" subjects by default with 78
and additionally did not offer a way to disable this initially, 
it created a number of real world examples.

Thunderbird forced this change on users, according to this
   https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1304451
there is only a hidden (expert) setting to disable it since 78.5.1.

Mentioned drawback:
 * Breaks filtering for the using company.
   " It's very important for mail filtering rules to be able to read the
  subject without opening the mail first."

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