Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via Gnupg-users

Joel Rees via Gnupg-users wrote:

Can I ask what new reason to make Stallman a scapegoat has emerged?


The recent round of attacks on Stallman seem to have begun after RMS 
returned to the FSF Board.  There is some controversy over the factual 
basis for these attacks.  (In other words, there are accusations that 
the current accusations against RMS have no basis in fact and are 
basically made up.)  There was similar controversy over the events that 
led to RMS leaving the FSF Board previously.


Based on what I have seen, some of the accusations are fabricated, some 
are RMS's words twisted and taken out of context, and some are 
legitimate complaints about Stallman as a person and his past behavior.


That said, this list is supposed to be for discussion of issues related 
to the use of GPG, and RMS is not related to that, so this thread really 
should be dropped and I am only writing this so that future readers of 
the list archive will not be left hanging and thinking that that 
question was dodged.


As to your other question, I cannot speak for the motivations of other 
people.



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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Rembrandt Wolpert via Gnupg-users
On 4/9/21 19:59, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> can we please stop this thread?

PLEASE! Thank you.

> 
> This is a technical and privacy oriented mailing list and not a medium
> to discuss the pros and cons of a certain person.  There are a enough
> other places for such chitchat.>

Indeed.

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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi Werner,

Am Fr den  9. Apr 2021 um 18:59 schrieb Werner Koch via Gnupg-users:
> can we please stop this thread?
> 
> This is a technical and privacy oriented mailing list and not a medium
> to discuss the pros and cons of a certain person.  There are a enough
> other places for such chitchat.

So please tell this to Robert J. Hansen who did twice bring some
political cancel culture discussions to this list.

I endorse Joel Rees question. There is no reason to try to cancel out
RMS. I am not a big fan of him and his personality might be
questionnaire to some, but there is no reason why he should be banned
from anything.

In fact, RMS did very great thinks for us as community. So please give
at least something that justifies all that hate writings against RMS.

Gruß
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Re: [GnuPG 1.4.x] max. amount of UIDs

2021-04-09 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users

Werner Koch wrote:


On Fri,  9 Apr 2021 16:47, Stefan Vasilev said:


for a privacy project I am working on I need the ability to use GnuPG 1.4.x

No you don't need 1.4 - it is obsolete and maionatined only to decrypt
existing data.


I am aware of that, but my thought was that the .exe and .dll from 1.4 
can be used, for portability


reasons, in a Desktop folder and then one only needs to use the 
--homedir parameter. I must


admit I have not tried yet, but if this is possible with the latest 
version of gpg4win, that all its


required components can be installed and used with --homedir then there 
is no need for 1.4.



for Windows and would like to know how many UIDs Alice and Bob can

There is some limit on the size of the keyblock (iirc 5 MiB) , but there
is no explicit limit on the number of user ids.


Thank you, I will then have to work out how much UIDs may fit in a keyblock.

Regards

Stefan



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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
Hi!

can we please stop this thread?

This is a technical and privacy oriented mailing list and not a medium
to discuss the pros and cons of a certain person.  There are a enough
other places for such chitchat.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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Re: Kleopatra v3.1.5 isn't happy

2021-04-09 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Fri,  9 Apr 2021 05:44, Luc Dore said:

> anymore.  I have this popup at startup about Kleopatra running as an admin:

You should never ever run programs as Admin on Windows (or as root under
Unix) if there is no need for it.  For an application GUI tool there is
a never such a need - install it as admin but use it with a regualr user
account.

If you run gnupg on the command line as Admin, gnupg may create files
which it can later, running as the regular user, not read or write
again.

Gpg4win mereley added a warning to avoid such pitfalls.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner

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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Joel Rees via Gnupg-users
Can I ask what new reason to make Stallman a scapegoat has emerged?

And why so many apparent core members of the gnupg community seem to be
joining the cancel culture?
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Re: Kleopatra v3.1.5 isn't happy

2021-04-09 Thread Luc Dore via Gnupg-users

HI Werner,

You should never ever run programs as Admin on Windows

-> I'm not running the program as admin,  I'm running it as my regular 
user, but it is part of the administrators group.


Gpg4win merely added a warning to avoid such pitfalls

-> That's the problem Werner, once you "OK" this window Kleopatra does 
/not/ launch.  I had to revert back to 3.0.14 to be able to use 
Kleopatra again.



On 4/9/2021 10:01 AM, Werner Koch wrote:

On Fri,  9 Apr 2021 05:44, Luc Dore said:


anymore.  I have this popup at startup about Kleopatra running as an admin:

You should never ever run programs as Admin on Windows (or as root under
Unix) if there is no need for it.  For an application GUI tool there is
a never such a need - install it as admin but use it with a regualr user
account.

If you run gnupg on the command line as Admin, gnupg may create files
which it can later, running as the regular user, not read or write
again.

Gpg4win mereley added a warning to avoid such pitfalls.


Salam-Shalom,

Werner


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Re: [GnuPG 1.4.x] max. amount of UIDs

2021-04-09 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Fri,  9 Apr 2021 16:47, Stefan Vasilev said:

> for a privacy project I am working on I need the ability to use GnuPG 1.4.x

No you don't need 1.4 - it is obsolete and maionatined only to decrypt
existing data.

> for Windows and would like to know how many UIDs Alice and Bob can

There is some limit on the size of the keyblock (iirc 5 MiB) , but there
is no explicit limit on the number of user ids.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner

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Re: GnuPG 2.3.0 database

2021-04-09 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Thu,  8 Apr 2021 07:37, murphy said:
> It is with great anticipation that I fire up a raspberry pi 4 to compile
> the newest version of GnuPG 2.3.0 using speedo. However I ran into:
>
> GnuPG version in swdb.lst is less than this version!
>   This version: 2.3.0
>   SWDB version: 2.2.27

Sorry about this.  There is an easy fix:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
--- a/build-aux/getswdb.sh
+++ b/build-aux/getswdb.sh
@@ -175,9 +175,9 @@ fi
 # to help detect rollback attacks.
 #
 if [ $skip_selfcheck = no ]; then
-  gnupg_ver=$(awk '$1=="gnupg22_ver" {print $2;exit}' swdb.lst)
+  gnupg_ver=$(awk '$1=="gnupg24_ver" {print $2;exit}' swdb.lst)
   if [ -z "$gnupg_ver" ]; then
-  echo "GnuPG 2.2 version missing in swdb.lst!" >&2
+  echo "GnuPG 2.4 version info missing in swdb.lst!" >&2
   exit 1
   fi
   gnupg_ver_num=$(echo "$gnupg_ver" | cvtver)
Modified   configure.ac
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


Not guarantee that things works, the release process uses speedo only
for the Windows build.  So, if you run into more errors, please let us
know.


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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users

The only thing that I can say is that I would rather see a FAQ that
reflect the current inplementation of GPG than a non-up to date FAQ per
lack of user consensus (1).


The problem there is without community buy-in, the FAQ lacks 
credibility.  It's supposed to be the *community's* FAQ, which is why 
people consider it authoritative.  "This is Rob's thinking" would be, to 
say the least, controversial: some people think I explain things 
accurately and clearly, and others think I've been sniffing glue since a 
tender age.


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[GnuPG 1.4.x] max. amount of UIDs

2021-04-09 Thread Stefan Vasilev via Gnupg-users

Hello,

for a privacy project I am working on I need the ability to use GnuPG 1.4.x

for Windows and would like to know how many UIDs Alice and Bob can

assing to a shared single key pair.

Regards

Stefan



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Kleopatra v3.1.5 isn't happy

2021-04-09 Thread Luc Dore via Gnupg-users

Hello Everyone,


I just updated my win 10 install to gnupg 3.1.5 and kleopatra isn't 
happy anymore.  I have this popup at startup about Kleopatra running 
as 
an admin:



Does any one know the proper permissions that the error message is 
referring to?  my windows user has full control over my 
appdata\roaming\gnupg folder.



Thanks.



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Re: Follow-up on L'Affaire Stallman

2021-04-09 Thread john doe via Gnupg-users

On 4/8/2021 5:19 PM, Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users wrote:

If anyone in the community has strong feelings about the FAQ -- what
should go in, what should be left out, etc. -- now's the time.



The only thing that I can say is that I would rather see a FAQ that
reflect the current inplementation of GPG than a non-up to date FAQ per
lack of user consensus (1).

EG:

Due to a lack of consensus, the FAQ was never updated to reflect that
'3072' is now the default in GPG.


That is to say, that in my view a FAQ that explains clearly how to use
GPG is somewhat more importent than comunity feedback.
A statement to that effect at the top of the page could be added
describing why this way was chosen.


1)  https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2021-March/064974.html

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