Re: Malformed Revokation Certificate?

2012-08-08 Thread Jay Litwyn
On 2012-08-08 2:20 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote:
 On 07/08/12 15:18, Jay Litwyn wrote:
 I submitted this revokation certificate to a couple of servers and
 they said it was malformed,
 and I had trouble guessing how to generate anything different. So, I
 imported the revokation certificate, exported the whole key, and
 submitted that. It worked.
 Now, I haven't ever revoked a key, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is how 
 it
 is supposed to work. After all, the revocation certificate is just a special
 type of signature. You don't upload signatures to a keyserver, you upload keys
 with signatures to a keyserver. The keyserver then merges in all the 
 signatures
 it has on that key.
As long as the signature names what it signs, I do not see why a
revokation certificate should not work on its own. It does when I
import a revokation certificate to my own key.
 gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2
 Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 That's old. Like, really old. Why do you use such an old version?
I had trouble finding a binary of anything more recent, and I had
trouble configuring the 2.x version that I installed with enigmail
to use pgp2 and support IDEA. In fact, I've forgotten where the
configuration file for 2.x is, and it still is not configured with
IDEA support. A lot more keys are on my keyring for v2.0.17.
 As for PGP 2.6.3, I believe the idea (IDEA? :) is that if you really still 
 want
 to use that, you have to be prepared for some struggles to get all sides
 communicating. That's the price you pay.

 Peter.

I have trouble enough getting any correspondent to use cryptography
when they should be using it. OH...I was going to revoke _this_ key,
and because gpg 2.0.17 skips v.3 signatures, I still will.



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Malformed Revokation Certificate?

2012-08-07 Thread Jay Litwyn
I submitted this revokation certificate to a couple of servers and
they said it was malformed,
and I had trouble guessing how to generate anything different. So, I
imported the revokation certificate, exported the whole key, and
submitted that. It worked.

Thanks to the availability of PGP 2.6.3i, I am now the proud user of
a public key that has my name and my email addresses on different
packets, and for which the encryption key and the signing key are
identical. Thanks to the availability of PGP 10.x, a photo is on my
public key. GPG won't put photos on PGP 2.x keys. It can. No matter
what the relevant Request For Comments (RFC) says, it can. It makes
the key unimportable by PGP 2.6.3i, and the key servers have it.

I have a hybrid key.

The key servers can also import public keys designed for SSL and
S/MIME. PGP 10 will export them. GPG won't import them, though --
something about invalid user ids. It says the same thing about the
public key for a time stamper (invalid user id). Maybe GPG should be
more tolerant.

Sigh. The public key I want to use is already on my GnuPG public and
private key rings. When the signature on this e-mail failed, I went
in to the GUI key management, and found that I am using a different
version on the CLI. We are _losing_ features, here. Maybe it'll
import into version 2.x if I delete the photo.

gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

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Malformed Revokation Certificate?

2012-08-07 Thread Jay Litwyn
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Re: Including public key

2011-07-29 Thread Jay Litwyn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On 2011-07-29 6:03 PM, MFPA wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 On Thursday 28 July 2011 at 4:22:52 PM, in 
 mid:4e317ecc.1060...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, Jay Litwyn wrote:
 
 
 Do not sign my photo until you see me in person,
 
 OK, fair enough. If the key has WoT signatures from people I trust
 to have such a policy. But in the case of the OP's key with only 
 self-signatures, the inclusion of a photo would do nothing to
 reassure me.

I was just looking at the pgp global directory signing key (the machine
that signed my key). About twenty revokation certificates are on it,
including p...@mit.edu

 although it would be tricky to fake photo-id production on skype.
 Photo-id doesn't make very good single frames, but change the angle
 on television and those chrome things flicker and move...
 
 OK, use a TV projector and point your webcam at the screen.

I do not hav a webcam, and I do not know why
you want me to create feedback.

 A phone number would only help if the person ringing it knew you
 well enough to recognise your voice on the phone. Even then,
 somebody  could record your voice and use it create an
 answerphone message...
 
 That is what a signed mp3 in my comment is about,
 
 Signed with the key, and somebody who knows you could recognise your 
 voice if they play the file. Arguably, Mallory could make
 recordings of your voice and use them to create such a file and sign
 it with their fake key.

Not if she wants any coherence in the tune; not that there is a lot,
mind you: It was straight a-cappella. All you can ever do is make a man
in the middle attack harder. Live conversation makes it harder.

 
 and just in case you do not follow links in message source 
 [comments] very often...
 
 Like almost never. (-;
 
 
 http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/gpg/Keyprint_Biometric.mp3.pgp (I will
 never call it a thumbprint or a fingerprint; key hash)
 
 Why not? Using the standard term of Fingerprint rather than 
 Keyprint_Biometric might lead more people to understand what the 
 file was likely to be.

The picture of a thumb in PGP bugs me.
PGP also features a list of words, instead of hexadecimal.
It calls *that* a biometric print; not unless you voice it somewhere,
and it won't work with GPG, which would need the same dictionary.

 Additionally, you can do a reverse lookup on my phone number
 
 I could possibly pay somebody with law enforcement connections to do 
 that.

A link is from my phone number on my web site:
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/ to my snail address if you want. In 1990, if
I wanted to do a reverse lookup, I could go to the library. There they
had about nine square metres dedicated to phone books in North America
(I think that's where they drew the line, anyway). My library also had a
reverse directory for Edmonton. By 1996, they were doing the same thing
with a computer and disks; much less space, many more search options.
Today, I do not hav to go anywhere, my white pages are useless for
looking up businesses, and reverse lookup (for this country) iz at:
http://www.canada411.ca/ (under other search options)

 and at least see if I am lying about my given and family names,
 according to a corporation that my library used to verify my
 identity.
 
 Assuming the phone is billed to you personally, and that you gave
 your real name when setting up the service.

They required my social security number.
Nobody is perfect. I am nobody. Therefore, I am perfect.
Why would anyone go to such lengths to impersonate me electronically?

 I once had a library check on my phone number, by getting out the 
 phone book and finding my surname and address and comparing the
 number listed to the one I gave them. (That was when I was in my
 teens and lived with my parents, so the initial would not have
 matched my first name.)
 
 
 
 My bottom line is that photos and phone numbers do not hurt.
 
 Depends on the user's privacy requirements and threat model.

Enerjize, said Kirk, then a pink drummer bunny appeared.
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Re: How secure are smartcards?

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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In my entry on a related thread, I was thinking that one of the simpler
ways to foil attacks on bank cards would be to make a smart card play
dumb and accept any old pin (symmetric encryption key for a private
key). That would (almost) force attackers to communicate with a bank on
every trial, except there *might* be a way for attackers to get the
public key for a pair off a card. Since attackers can't read the private
key (at least not without frying or bridging key bits), they can't tell
that it iz no longer based upon probable primes. The bank would come up
with no such ID, or BAD signature, and they might be watching for a
lot of noise like that. Now, I am thinking that for a card to reveal its
public key more than once might actually be a weakness, however
interoperable.

A bank card does only hav to communicate with one other entity, so I am
not sure that this can't be done with symmetric keys throughout.

The other way iz to introduce increasing delays for bad PINs.
I like my first impulse better, though, forcing attackers to actually
use a badly decrypted private key to communicate with a bank.
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Re: Including public key

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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On 2011-07-27 8:25 PM, Len Cooley wrote:
 Well, let me ask you this. Is it useful/useless/ridiculous/orwhat to 
 attach your public key as a sig at the end of an email, such as
 below?
 

It depends on the environment of your receiver.
Would they be subject to seeing your signature replaced?
Do any policies concern the use of cryptography at their workplace or
domicile, say in jail or in a country where Blackberry crypto is an
issue (India, if I remember correctly)?
Do they live in a country that accepted U.S. export restrictions on
cryptography (probably Russia)?
Is your recipient a public figure (about whom there might be motivation
to pull a Murdoch) or an ex convict (about whom there might still be
search warrants)?
In any of the rejions where cryptography is controlled, it is a better
idea (than simply sending a public key with no signatures on it other
than yours) to be creative with the hash on your public key; perhaps
telephone verification, perhaps you can personally meet someone on the
web of trust.

While the Physics of public key cryptography are air tight,
it depends on signatures on your public key to become robust
in the real world. I suspect that you are more likely to get
those if you release your key on servers, and sign a lot of stuff
that people consider important. Attaching a photo to your public
key might help. So might putting a phone number on your public key.
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Re: Including public key

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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On 2011-07-28 8:01 AM, MFPA wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 On Thursday 28 July 2011 at 12:53:41 PM, in 
 mid:4e314dc5.4000...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, Jay Litwyn wrote:
 
 Attaching a photo to your public key might help. So might putting
 a phone number on your public key.
 
 I'm not too convinced a photo would help much. I could create a key 
 and include a photo obtained from the internet...

Do not sign my photo until you see me in person, although it would be
tricky to fake photo-id production on skype. Photo-id doesn't make very
good single frames, but change the angle on television and those chrome
things flicker and move...

 A phone number would only help if the person ringing it knew you well
 enough to recognise your voice on the phone. Even then, somebody 
 could record your voice and use it create an answerphone message...

That is what a signed mp3 in my comment is about, and just in case you
do not follow links in message source [comments] very often...
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/gpg/Keyprint_Biometric.mp3.pgp
(I will never call it a thumbprint or a fingerprint; key hash)
Kleopatra won't handle that file...says no data, and gpg will handle it
on a command line, making an mp3 out of it.

Additionally, you can do a reverse lookup on my phone number and at
least see if I am lying about my given and family names, according to a
corporation that my library used to verify my identity.

My bottom line is that photos and phone numbers do not hurt.
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Re: Including public key

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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On 2011-07-28 10:08 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
 On 28 July 2011 16:01, MFPA expires2...@ymail.com wrote: Hi
 
 
 On Thursday 28 July 2011 at 12:53:41 PM, in 
 mid:4e314dc5.4000...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, Jay Litwyn wrote:
 
 Attaching a photo to your public key might help. So might
 putting a phone number on your public key.
 
 I'm not too convinced a photo would help much. I could create a key
 and include a photo obtained from the internet...
 
 A phone number would only help if the person ringing it knew you
 well enough to recognise your voice on the phone. Even then, somebody
 could record your voice and use it create an answerphone message...
 
 It's now possible to put a photo, phone number etc on your home
 page, and also put your public key there.
 
 That's what I do.  For this I use my OpenPGP key together with some
 HTML5.

The only reason I am not using HTML5, yet, iz because it requires
knowing CSS to set link, vlink, and alink colours. What you are talking
about only requires HTML 3.2 (which haz been a standard for ten years,
and even now there is a portion of internet traffic from I.E.6.), which
supports colour in body tags, while HTML5 does not; yet another
standard that is not backward compatible.

Not recognizing a public key from stamper is being not backward
compatible.

A signed photo means a *bit more* than photos on facebook. A signed
phone number means a *bit more* than a link to your phone company. That
is especially true when three identifiers are linked to the same key,
separately, so that you don't need to know all four (voice, name, face,
and e-mail address), and so that you can let other people confirm only
what they've experienced, az in perhaps they should not feel qualified
to sign my given and family names, yet they're confident of my e-mail
address.

In my case, that iz likely, because I yuuz only screen names on USENET.
The bit more is potential for privacy, and insulation against identity
theft. Someone could simply copy your web site and change a few things
to steal your identity, at least until you found out and complained to
their ISP.

That's why void appears in my public key. Neither PGP 10, nor gpg
were going to allow me to leave my given and family names blank;
separate, and yet _linked_ elements of identification.

 
 It's quite a new system, but supported by the W3C and on it's way
 to becoming a standard. For more info see the video at: 
 http://webid.info/

Like I said, it is more authentic and therefore more useful when pieces
of your identity are linked in dijital signatures. It would be a bit
tricky to do that with HTML. You could do it with PDF, because there iz
a standard for signatures (and probably compound signatures) on PDF.
There isn't one for HTML, AFAIK, that doesn't require s/mime or some
complicated and little-used piece of HTTPS or HTTPD.
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(Exhale, Inhale) Luke, you are my bastard!
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Re: Including public key

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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On 2011-07-28 10:08 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
(...)
 It's quite a new system, but supported by the W3C and on it's way
 to becoming a standard. For more info see the video at: 
 http://webid.info/
(...)

paypal and your bank are unlikely subscribers to this potential
standard. You will notice that neither one allows your browzer to store
a password for them. They also time out; expire logins. That's how
concerned they are with authenticity; not even someone else from your
home. I do not really see how an open login system can *increase*
security. However much you use the math, if you are effectively logged
into all of the servers you ever used at once, then the openness of
your computer (say if it is on, and you head out for soda without
logging out) is an authenticity threat. You do not want to explain
someone else's actions to admins on wikipedia: You will be lucky if
they believe you.
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Re: How secure are smartcards?

2011-07-28 Thread Jay Litwyn
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On 2011-07-28 6:05 PM, Crypto Stick wrote:
 At the moment, my secret key is stored on my hard drive and is
 encrypted by a long passphrase. When I transfer my subkeys to the
 smartcard, will they actually be encrypted whilst they're on
 there?
 
 The very purpose of smartcards is to keep secret keys confidential
 and secure. This is achieved by physical protection, different
 layers, puzzling structure etc. This makes it very, very difficult to
 extract the keys. For a state-of-the-art smart card like the OpenPGP
 Card 2, I guess the price tag would be around 100.000 Euros.
 
 The beauty is that this protection can be provided without the
 burden for the user to remember a long passphrase, since this is not
 required to encrypt the keys.

You could use random symmetric encryption keys and encrypt them with a
short passphrase: Decryption would be two steps. Or, you could disable
the command for exporting a private key; import only. Iz GPG in ROM on
this card, then?
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Re: Can version 1.4.11 be configured to use IDEA?

2011-07-20 Thread Jay Litwyn

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On 2011-07-20 4:31 AM, Richard wrote:
 Hello,

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 03:57, Robert J. Hansen
 r...@sixdemonbag.org wrote:
 Is there some particular reason why you send messages in an
 obfuscated format?

 how is that working anyway? Apparently GPG automatically decrypted
 those messages for me. How were they generated? What is that? :)

gpg --sign message.txt
notepad message.txt.asc
Clear message answer.
Cut and paste message.txt.asc into answer of message.

It is a compressed, ascii-armoured, and signed message.
It handles long lines without pgp/mime (which currently
doesn't work for me), and it survives whitespace corruption
such as what you might get from cutting and pasting a
message from an archive. gpg -sa message.txt does the
same thing. Notice the omitted Teh that would make it a
- --clearsign .


 Thanks,

 Richard


The soldier who survived mustard gas and
pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.
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Re: secring and dropbox

2011-07-20 Thread Jay Litwyn

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On 2011-07-20 9:39 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:23:12AM +0200, Werner Koch wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 03:25, r...@sixdemonbag.org said:
 I'm presenting the script here in case someone else finds
 it useful, but really, it's embarrassingly simple.

Never let simple embarass you.
For me, it is key.
For someone else, it might be poetry.
For someone simpler than you, it might be obfuscation. :)

 gpg --gen-random --armor 1 16

 Might even be a bit simpler ;-)

 Ah, cool. However, as the gpg(1) manual states,
 --gen-random removes precious entropy from your system.

I took that for a joke. Someone should put a ;-) in the doc.

 It might be worth adding to that note,
 that regenerating entropy isn't that big of a deal.
 Something along the
 lines of:

 $ du /  /dev/null

 Should be sufficient, by causing a lot of disk interrupts.
 Just a thought.

 --
 . o . o . o . . o o . . . o .
 . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o
 o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o

Discarded Acronyms: Wake On Packet: WOP.
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Re: secring and dropbox

2011-07-20 Thread Jay Litwyn
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Re: Where are those stubs..

2011-07-20 Thread Jay Litwyn


On 2011-07-20 6:38 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:56:54AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:43:06 +0100
 da...@gbenet.com articulated:
  ..snip
 Most people have Microsoft on their desktop or laptop without any
 choice. They do not have the freedom of choice. Most people like my
 girlfriend just switch on their laptop or desktop and use it without
 any knowledge that there are alternatives.
 Absolutely, F**ken Bulls**t. You always have a choice. The truth of the
 matter is that your girlfriend, or any other individual for that
 matter, choose an OS that they can actually just turn on and have it
 work without spending days attempting to get simple things like
 wireless, printers, etcetera operational. Hell, I use FreeBSD as a
 hobbyist OS on two machines and it doesn't even support the wireless
 N protocol after over 5 years. The list goes on and on. People tend
 to use what works best for them. Even more so, they use what works best
 in their environment.
 Never worked for a company that dictated what software everyone used,
 did you?

   ..snip..

 What you are really trying to enforce is the concept of socialism. 
 What has preferring to do business with ethical companies got to do with
 socialism or any form of government?

 You
 don't hate Microsoft, or any other corporation specifically. You are
 using this pseudo business practice scenario as a smoke screen to
 cover up the fact that you are really an anti-capitalist.
 I'm surprised you didn't invoke the Liberal Agenda.
  
 You want
 software to be free. I have no problem with that as long as it does not
 deprive an individual of his due compensation. You usually get what you
 pay for.
 You just alienated the entire FOSS community.


Time, trouble, or tickets; you'll get what's paid for.
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Re: Can version 1.4.11 be configured to use IDEA?

2011-07-19 Thread Jay Litwyn
Looks like the answer to my question iz: Not legally. I was thinking
that IDEA was more than ten years old, which I thot meant that the
patent on it was expired. Silly me, though, looks like patent law
changed for about seven more years of length. So, while I'm waiting for
six months or whatever, I might az well change the password (and
encryption algo) on my private key with gpg 1.2.2., and then migrate to
1.4.11.

Hopefully, I can use the same key with PDF. Kuz, if not, then I *do*
know how to convert PDF keys (S/MIME) to PGP format, and I want only one
key for everything. I revoked a subkey before I realized that people
need it to encrypt messages to me.
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Re: Can version 1.4.11 be configured to use IDEA?

2011-07-19 Thread Jay Litwyn

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
To make a long story short.
I created a key with jenuine pgp 10.
I exported it with IDEA.
I made gpg 1.2.2 work with IDEA.
Making gpg 1.4.11 work with IDEA failed.
I changed my pass-phrase using --crypt-algo CAST5 with 1.2.2.
Now, enigmail works, so I am one happy camper.
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Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
 
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Re: secring and dropbox

2011-07-19 Thread Jay Litwyn


On 2011-07-19 6:18 PM, Kara wrote:
 

 Reference Robert J. Hansen's 19 Jul 2011, 1504 (-0700), Re: secring
 and dropbox:

 Is it a bad idea to place your secring in dropbox?
 Depends entirely on the strength of your passphrase.  With a strong
 enough passphrase you could publish your secret certificates in the
 newspaper of your choice and still be confident of their safety.
 Using a decent password generator and specifying a mix of upper and
 lower case letters, digits, and special characters, how many total
 characters -- as a minimum -- would you recommend such a password be?

 Any particular password generator program you would recommend?


Your brain. You hav to remember it, so you are better off constructing
it in the first place. Remember that you will hav no automated retrieval
process, where a friendly program reminds you of your passphrase. It iz
almost a shame that the most retrievable things are sentences with
non-sensical images in them, like Harry Lorayne's pimple-moose for
pomplemouse, the french word for grapefruit: He would hav you imajin a
moose with giant grapefruit pimples to remember that french word. You
can then insert punctuation and numbers that don't go on facebook,
anywhere, cut some of words down to initials or consonants (or out, if
it's long enough). Then, add a pattern in your casing. There could be a
program like crack applied to input passwords, measuring strength. Of
course, if you are confident that your private key ring will never go
anywhere, and that you can revoke it if it does (JENERATE A REVOKATION
CERTIFICATE. Store it on that USB key that is chained into your coat.)
It would of course be a nuisance to hav someone publish your revokation
certificate, and nothing like losing money at Mark Twain Bank. If your
friends are good enough, then you can leave a revokation certificate
with them.


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Can version 1.4.11 be configured to use IDEA?

2011-07-18 Thread Jay Litwyn
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Re: Can version 1.4.11 be configured to use IDEA?

2011-07-18 Thread Jay Litwyn
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