RE: [META] please start To: with gnupg-users@gnupg.org, i.e.: To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Dear Michael (Yetto),
M.A.Y.: "It isn't for the greater good if the onus to please the few (or the
one) is placed on the many."
Michael, if the few care more about being above "the many", than the needs of
"the many",
does that not lead to disparity? "The many" are not all as
knowledgeable
as the Yettos of this world ... "the many" get excluded
technologically;
technologically disparity is akin to economic disparity ... if Warren
Buffet
can reach out to "the rich", then the techie~~astute can reach out to
the
techie~~challenged.
Henri David Thoreau, paraphrased: "if one person is more right that her/his
neighbours,
then that person constitutes a majority of one".
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AFAIK, there is no such thing as a "standard" signature AFAIK.
if there were, on would expect to find it more consistently here
gnupg-users@gnupg.org.
M.A.Y.: "standard sig delimiter (newline dash dash space newline)."
I'm assuming that by sig, you mean "signature" and not tagline. The following
are recent
examples of "non-standard" signatures:
__
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
--
Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz.
__
Kind regards,
Christian
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.
.
common/t-sexputil
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1.7.8.3
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*** Robert J. Hansen ***{ no signature } also: PGP signature
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Cheers,
Remco
__
vedaal
__
--dkg
__
--dan
__
/Holger
__
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FWIW
Gerry (Lowry)
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RE: [META] please start To: with gnupg-users@gnupg.org, i.e.: To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Jerome, nay, not so my inbox looks better, rather because it's the right thing to do for the greater good, imho. Peace, Gerry __ Gerry Lowry, Partner http://twitter.com/gerryLowry1947 Ability Business Computer Services ~~ Because it's your Business, our Experience Counts! 68 John W. Taylor Avenue Alliston Ontario Canada L9R 0E1 705.250.0112 gerry.lo...@abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com https://www.gerrylowryprogrammer.com http://abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
RE: [META] please start To: with gnupg-users@gnupg.org, i.e.: To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Hi Peter (Lebbing) Depending on one's point of view, the e-mail client UI is either "behind the scenes" or "the scene". My PoV is that everything that is necessary to display the e-mail to my vision, is "behind the scenes". That includes all activity from start to end, including what the e-mail client does to extract raw text (headers/body) and make it look pretty to my eyes. The UI is "the scene" imho. Peter, remember please, most end users are unlikely to have your in depth appreciation of the RFC universe. OTOH, most end users can click on the (date received/From/Subject/To/et cetera) columns to easily, efficiently, and quickly rearrange their inbox in a new order. Compare for example the current "Why hashed ..." thread ... From To Doug Barton Robert J. Hansen Jerome Baum Doug Barton Doug Barton Jerome Baum FWIW, I'm a masochist ... my inbox has several thousand recent messages. If the above messages were scattered through my inbox, but looked like this: From To Doug Barton gnupg-users@gnupg.org Jerome Baum gnupg-users@gnupg.org Doug Barton gnupg-users@gnupg.org I could easily pull them, as well as other gnupg-users@gnupg.org, together simply by clicking on the "To:" column header. Gerry P.S.: FWIW, gnupg-users@gnupg.org is a "list", not zig zag exchanges among individuals. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
RE: [META] please start To: with gnupg-users@gnupg.org, i.e.: To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
Hello Remco and Jerome,
FWIW, with Microsoft Outlook Express under WinXP, to view your responses, I
must explicitly open (Remco's 666 byte/Jerome's 549
byte) attached body documents in an editor;
alternately, I can display the message properties:
Alt+Enter==> display properties
Ctrl+Tab ==> move to the details page
Alt+M==> show message source
Alt+Space, x ==> maximize
Page Down==> to begin viewing your actual reply.
With Microsoft Outlook 2010, you messages appear more easily BUT are also shown
as attachments.
Thank you both for replying:
Remco "Or filter on the List-Id header perhaps. That one is always set when
you
receive mail from the mail list."
{GL} this would work, BUT I already have very many filters for other purposes,
plus, if others would address messages as per my
suggestion, the filter would be unnecessary; likely many users have no idea as
to how to set a filter.
Remco "(Also, apply such a filter then before any spam blocking on empty To:
lines etc.)"
{GL} Remco, you've missed my point ... spam blocking also occurs for many
individuals at or before your incoming e-mail ever gets
downloaded to their computer.
Jerome "FWIW, (MIME) e-mail does really have a To: and a Cc: field. It also has
an implied Bcc: field (not on To: or Cc:). Behind the scenes, To:, Cc:,
and Bcc: are ALL simply FIELDS."
{GL} is that not what, for all intents and purposes, i wrote?
> FWIW, e-mail does not really have a To:, Cc:, or Bcc: field;
> all three are embellishments added by the e-mail client software.
> Behind the scenes, To:, Cc:, and Bcc: are ALL simply RCPT-TO.
if the sender's e-mail client did not add the FIELDS, the recipient would
see NOTHING for To:, Cc:, Bcc.
if the sender is NOT using an e-mail client (i.e., sending manually),
she/he would
(a) type RCPT-TO x
for each intended recipient. E-mail client software also must insert
RCPT-TO.
She/he could add the FIELDS to the beginning of the message body;
FIELDS do not in the raw data exist outside of the message body.
Cheers,
Gerry
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[META] please start To: with gnupg-users@gnupg.org, i.e.: To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org
gnupg-users@gnupg.org This is not directed at any one individual; also, other mailing lists have the same problem imho. Ideally, (my ideal), the generic "one" would simply address e-mails to gnupg-users@gnupg.org as (a)To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org nothing more, nothing less. Such an addressing scheme makes it easy to filter and order gnupg-users@gnupg.org e-mails. Instead, there's substantial variation, examples: (b) To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org Cc: x...@y.tld (c) To: x...@y.tld Cc: gnupg-users@gnupg.org (d) To: Cc: gnupg-users@gnupg.org (e) To: x...@y.tld, gnupg-users@gnupg.org (f) To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org, x...@y.tld (b) and (f) are not such a problem for filtering and/or ordering because they are similar to (a). (c), (d), and (e) do not filter/order well. (d) is the worst form imho because e-mails without a To: component are the most likely to end up in one's spam folder; in some cases, depending on one's isp, such e-mails might not even be delivered to one's client pc, i.e., they might be rejected at some mail server's gateway. FWIW, e-mail does not really have a To:, Cc:, or Bcc: field; all three are embellishments added by the e-mail client software. Behind the scenes, To:, Cc:, and Bcc: are ALL simply RCPT-TO. Please, and thank you. Regards, Gerry __ Gerry Lowry, Partner http://twitter.com/gerryLowry1947 Ability Business Computer Services ~~ Because it's your Business, our Experience Counts! 68 John W. Taylor Avenue Alliston Ontario Canada L9R 0E1 705.250.0112 gerry.lo...@abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com https://www.gerrylowryprogrammer.com http://abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
