Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-26 Thread Werner Koch 
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:54, 2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net said:

> How about gpg --list-keys --file filename?

Well, a single command would be better.  I am currently thinking about

  --show detect type of input and use approriate listing
  --show-key assume a key and list that
  --show-msg assume a message and print something without decryption.



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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-25 Thread MFPA 
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Hi


On Monday 20 November 2017 at 7:56:24 AM, in
, Werner Koch wrote:-


>   gpg --import-options show-only --import 

> (Suggestions for the name of a shortcut command are
> welcome)

How about gpg --list-keys --file filename?

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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-22 Thread Werner Koch 
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:01, pe...@digitalbrains.com said:

> How about just --show? It was suggested in an unfriendly manner at

Similar to Wouter's suggestions --show is not specific enough and does
not explain that this is to show the keys and not messages.

> a file without processing it make sense? It could show all that
> --import-options show-only shows for keys, or show recipients for

Unless we want to continue the current and mostly debugish output of
whatever gpg shows without commands, this requires that the type of the
input is first detected.  In GPGME we have code to do this which could
be lifted for use in gpg.  With that --show would make sense.


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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-21 Thread Peter Lebbing 
On 20/11/17 08:56, Werner Koch wrote:
> (Suggestions for the name of a shortcut command are welcome)
How about just --show? It was suggested in an unfriendly manner at
LWN[1], but apart from the unfriendliness, I do think it makes sense.

It does imply that it works for more than just keys, though. I wonder if
that is a bad thing. Wouldn't a command that just shows the contents of
a file without processing it make sense? It could show all that
--import-options show-only shows for keys, or show recipients for
encrypted files, signers for signed files (no verification), etcetera. A
less techy version of --list-only --list-packets.

Peter.

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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst 
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 08:56:24AM +0100, Werner Koch wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:10, pe...@digitalbrains.com said:
> 
> > GnuPG by default does not show *expired* subkeys. Use --list-options
> > show-unusable-subkeys to do that.
> 
> Let me also add that using gpg without any command (as in "...|gpg") is
> deprecated because the output you see is more of a debug message than a
> weel defined output.  This is also the reason why you see the expired
> keys with that command.
> 
> To view a key wityhout first importing it you can do:
> 
>   gpg --import-options show-only --import 
> 
> (Suggestions for the name of a shortcut command are welcome)

--display-input
--decode-input
--parse-input

I'd focus on the word "input" there, and add a verb that doesn't imply
something is being written somewhere.

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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-20 Thread Werner Koch 
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:10, pe...@digitalbrains.com said:

> GnuPG by default does not show *expired* subkeys. Use --list-options
> show-unusable-subkeys to do that.

Let me also add that using gpg without any command (as in "...|gpg") is
deprecated because the output you see is more of a debug message than a
weel defined output.  This is also the reason why you see the expired
keys with that command.

To view a key wityhout first importing it you can do:

  gpg --import-options show-only --import 

(Suggestions for the name of a shortcut command are welcome)


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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-19 Thread Peter Lebbing 
On 18/11/17 21:36, Ray Satiro via Gnupg-users wrote:
> sub   rsa4096 2010-02-16 [E] [expired: 2017-08-12]
> sub   rsa4096 2015-08-13 [S] [expired: 2017-08-12]

Well, there's your problem.

GnuPG by default does not show *expired* subkeys. Use --list-options
show-unusable-subkeys to do that.

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Re: Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-18 Thread MFPA 
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Hi


On Saturday 18 November 2017 at 8:36:20 PM, in
, Ray Satiro via
Gnupg-users wrote:-


> Also, is that the best way to get key
> details? I seem to
> recall there was a way to list a key and all its
> subkeys in more detail
> with sub key fingerprints and expiration? How can I
> do that? I know of
> --with-colons but it's not a human readable format.  


I seem to get the creation and expiry dates and usage flags by
default:-

gpg --no-options --list-keys 0xACE56971D555DAA5
pub   rsa4096 2017-08-05 [C] [expires: 2018-06-16]
  7910C45F89FC8CC2CBD24AB0ACE56971D555DAA5
uid   [ unknown] 0xACE56971D555DAA5
sub   rsa4096 2017-08-05 [S] [expires: 2017-12-16]
sub   rsa4096 2017-08-05 [E] [expires: 2017-12-16]
sub   ed25519 2017-08-05 [S] [expires: 2017-12-16]
sub   cv25519 2017-08-05 [E] [expires: 2017-12-16]


But there are options to get more output (which will probably wrap 
horribly in this email):-

gpg --no-options --with-fingerprint --with-subkey-fingerprint --with-
keygrip --keyid-format 0xLONG --list-keys 0xACE56971D555DAA5
pub   rsa4096/0xACE56971D555DAA5 2017-08-05 [C] [expires: 2018-06-16]
  Key fingerprint = 7910 C45F 89FC 8CC2 CBD2  4AB0 ACE5 6971 D555
DAA5
  Keygrip = 9F115F0D0FC92E983F27D7331E7ABEBB4EFB20D8
uid   [ unknown] 0xACE56971D555DAA5
sub   rsa4096/0x130DF516112FC0FF 2017-08-05 [S] [expires: 2017-12-16]
  Key fingerprint = 525F A928 9F17 798D B33B  2728 130D F516 112F
C0FF
  Keygrip = EC8686A74101CF30518E152DC36272F00693DB21
sub   rsa4096/0x1CAC08E8DEFAFDFE 2017-08-05 [E] [expires: 2017-12-16]
  Key fingerprint = 95F9 4462 F81E DEB5 27E8  4D5A 1CAC 08E8 DEFA
FDFE
  Keygrip = CEB8C7FBC9B61D2D844E4DEE6C80CA76767D6503
sub   ed25519/0xE0E2DEE1D6C8EEFA 2017-08-05 [S] [expires: 2017-12-16]
  Key fingerprint = 960C 8628 D592 FF8C DE8B  B0BF E0E2 DEE1 D6C8
EEFA
  Keygrip = 9BB73B4ACED2CD1693C989B634B8F7E99884F786
sub   cv25519/0xEAC88A2823F99DEC 2017-08-05 [E] [expires: 2017-12-16]
  Key fingerprint = 3ABC A084 4547 9C02 1A9A  DB13 EAC8 8A28 23F9
9DEC
  Keygrip = D89391EAED4F9D523EDB8937BAD5B6849C5DAEDF


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Getting more verbose details of a key

2017-11-18 Thread Ray Satiro via Gnupg-users 
I would like to know why --list-key (or --list-keys) doesn't always show
subkeys and their expiration dates.

gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.1
libgcrypt 1.8.1

To reproduce:

cd foo
set GNUPGHOME=.
gpg --import CBA23971357C2E6590D9EFD3EC8FEF3A7BFB4EDA.asc
gpg --list-key CBA23971357C2E6590D9EFD3EC8FEF3A7BFB4EDA

pub   rsa4096 2010-02-16 [SC]
  CBA23971357C2E6590D9EFD3EC8FEF3A7BFB4EDA
uid   [ unknown] Brad King
uid   [ unknown] Brad King [EMAIL REMOVED]
uid   [ unknown] [jpeg image of size 4005]

Notice no subkeys w/ expiration, and yet:

gpg -a --export CBA23971357C2E6590D9EFD3EC8FEF3A7BFB4EDA | gpg

gpg: WARNING: no command supplied.  Trying to guess what you mean ...
pub   rsa4096 2010-02-16 [SC]
  CBA23971357C2E6590D9EFD3EC8FEF3A7BFB4EDA
uid   Brad King
uid   Brad King [EMAIL REMOVED]
uid   [jpeg image of size 4005]
sub   rsa4096 2010-02-16 [E] [expired: 2017-08-12]
sub   rsa4096 2015-08-13 [S] [expired: 2017-08-12]

Is that a bug? Also, is that the best way to get key details? I seem to
recall there was a way to list a key and all its subkeys in more detail
with sub key fingerprints and expiration? How can I do that? I know of
--with-colons but it's not a human readable format.

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