Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-26 Thread Bruno Costacurta
On Saturday 24 February 2007 00:22:34 John Clizbe wrote:
 Bruno Costacurta wrote:
  On Sunday 18 February 2007 23:11:37 Bruno Costacurta wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my
  key and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id])
  to keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
  However key is still not updated after few hours.
  What are normal delays ?
 
  Bye,
  Bruno
 
  Hello,
  it seems to works better now but all changes are not reflected.
 
  Via 'gpg --list-key' I'm able to modify keys expiration, add / remove uid
  and delete uneeded signatures. Save and list reflect my changes.
  However, after export, only new expiration and uid are present, other
  removed items are still present.
  How to export all the changes ?

 You can't delete information from a keyserver that synchronizes with
 others. That's why new information and changes show up, but your deletions
 do not.

Well...it makes sense. Thanks for your attention and answer.
Bye,
Bruno


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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-23 Thread Bruno Costacurta
On Sunday 18 February 2007 23:11:37 Bruno Costacurta wrote:
 Hello,

 I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my key
 and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id]) to
 keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
 However key is still not updated after few hours.
 What are normal delays ?

 Bye,
 Bruno

Hello,
it seems to works better now but all changes are not reflected.

Via 'gpg --list-key' I'm able to modify keys expiration, add / remove uid and 
delete uneeded signatures. Save and list reflect my changes.
However, after export, only new expiration and uid are present, other removed 
items are still present.
How to export all the changes ?

Thanks for attention.
Bye,
Bruno

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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-23 Thread John Clizbe
Bruno Costacurta wrote:
 On Sunday 18 February 2007 23:11:37 Bruno Costacurta wrote:
 Hello,

 I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my key
 and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id]) to
 keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
 However key is still not updated after few hours.
 What are normal delays ?

 Bye,
 Bruno
 
 Hello,
 it seems to works better now but all changes are not reflected.
 
 Via 'gpg --list-key' I'm able to modify keys expiration, add / remove uid and 
 delete uneeded signatures. Save and list reflect my changes.
 However, after export, only new expiration and uid are present, other removed 
 items are still present.
 How to export all the changes ?

You can't delete information from a keyserver that synchronizes with others.
That's why new information and changes show up, but your deletions do not.

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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-22 Thread Bruno Costacurta
On Monday 19 February 2007 17:51:02 Jason Harris wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:31:55PM -0500, David Shaw wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:11:37PM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
   I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my
   key and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id])
   to keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
   However key is still not updated after few hours.
   What are normal delays ?

 Keys do get temporarily trapped on the SKS keyserver network until
 keyserver.kjsl.com copies them over to the rest of the planet.

 BTW, your subkey isn't currently usable:

   sub  2048g/0CC897B5 2006-06-11 [subkey]
Key fingerprint = CCE0 5315 0022 9460 0337  6C6F 4253 1C9A 0CC8 97B5
   sig  0x18  2E604D51 2006-06-11 [skey EXPIRED 2006-12-08] [keybind, hash:
 type 2, e0 0f] sig  0x18  2E604D51 2006-06-11 [skey EXPIRED 2006-12-08]
 [keybind, hash: type 2, e0 0f]

  There is not an easy answer to that question.  subkeys.pgp.net is not
  actually a keyserver, but rather a collection of (at the moment) 5
  different keyservers.  When you use it, you get one server from the
  pool in a round-robin fashion.  Generally speaking, any given
  keyserver in the pool that you update reflects the update immediately,
  but frequently people update one keyserver in the pool, but then check
  for the update from another server in the pool which hasn't gotten it
  yet.

 NB:  I think if GPG printed the IP address of the keyserver it used, it
 could end some of this confusion.

 Specifically, these were in a batch update from SKS to onak/OpenPKSD/pks/
 etc. (all times are TZ=UTC):

   2007-02-06 23:02:08.290952260 display_new_sig: new sig 28 by 2E604D51
 added to 2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-02-06
 23:02:08.291023778 display_new_sig: new subkey sig by 2E604D51 added to
 2E604D51

 these were first seen from pgp.nic.ad.jp:

   2007-02-16 13:41:00.597122207 display_new_sig: new sig 1 by 2E604D51
 added to 2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-02-16
 13:41:00.597182829 display_new_sig: new sig 2 by 2E604D51 added to 2E604D51
 pubmb02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 and these were in another batch update:

   2007-02-18 23:02:27.870255691 display_new_sig: new sig 71 by 2E604D51
 added to 2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-02-18
 23:02:27.870319946 display_new_sig: new sig 72 by 2E604D51 added to
 2E604D51 pubmb02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Well, I still cannot see any refresh of my keys...sent 4 days ago.
Should I try again ?
Thanks.
Bruno

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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-19 Thread Jason Harris
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:31:55PM -0500, David Shaw wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:11:37PM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:

  I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my key 
  and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id]) to 
  keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
  However key is still not updated after few hours.
  What are normal delays ? 

Keys do get temporarily trapped on the SKS keyserver network until
keyserver.kjsl.com copies them over to the rest of the planet.

BTW, your subkey isn't currently usable:

  sub  2048g/0CC897B5 2006-06-11 [subkey]
   Key fingerprint = CCE0 5315 0022 9460 0337  6C6F 4253 1C9A 0CC8 97B5
  sig  0x18  2E604D51 2006-06-11 [skey EXPIRED 2006-12-08] [keybind, hash: type 
2, e0 0f]
  sig  0x18  2E604D51 2006-06-11 [skey EXPIRED 2006-12-08] [keybind, hash: type 
2, e0 0f]

 There is not an easy answer to that question.  subkeys.pgp.net is not
 actually a keyserver, but rather a collection of (at the moment) 5
 different keyservers.  When you use it, you get one server from the
 pool in a round-robin fashion.  Generally speaking, any given
 keyserver in the pool that you update reflects the update immediately,
 but frequently people update one keyserver in the pool, but then check
 for the update from another server in the pool which hasn't gotten it
 yet.

NB:  I think if GPG printed the IP address of the keyserver it used, it
could end some of this confusion.

Specifically, these were in a batch update from SKS to onak/OpenPKSD/pks/
etc. (all times are TZ=UTC):

  2007-02-06 23:02:08.290952260 display_new_sig: new sig 28 by 2E604D51 added 
to 2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2007-02-06 23:02:08.291023778 display_new_sig: new subkey sig by 2E604D51 
added to 2E604D51

these were first seen from pgp.nic.ad.jp:

  2007-02-16 13:41:00.597122207 display_new_sig: new sig 1 by 2E604D51 added to 
2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2007-02-16 13:41:00.597182829 display_new_sig: new sig 2 by 2E604D51 added to 
2E604D51 pubmb02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and these were in another batch update:

  2007-02-18 23:02:27.870255691 display_new_sig: new sig 71 by 2E604D51 added 
to 2E604D51 Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2007-02-18 23:02:27.870319946 display_new_sig: new sig 72 by 2E604D51 added 
to 2E604D51 pubmb02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-19 Thread David Shaw
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:51:02AM -0500, Jason Harris wrote:

  There is not an easy answer to that question.  subkeys.pgp.net is not
  actually a keyserver, but rather a collection of (at the moment) 5
  different keyservers.  When you use it, you get one server from the
  pool in a round-robin fashion.  Generally speaking, any given
  keyserver in the pool that you update reflects the update immediately,
  but frequently people update one keyserver in the pool, but then check
  for the update from another server in the pool which hasn't gotten it
  yet.
 
 NB:  I think if GPG printed the IP address of the keyserver it used, it
 could end some of this confusion.

I think you're right (to print as a verbose thing for those who care
to know or to help with debugging), but unfortunately there is not an
easy way to get the IP address when using libcurl.  I'm not
particularly eager to start playing socket games with
CURLINFO_LASTSOCKET just to get a string to print.

David

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Re: Keyserver refresh period after gpg --send-keys

2007-02-18 Thread David Shaw
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:11:37PM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I updated the expiration (via gpg --edit-key using expire option) of my key 
 and (re)sended it to a keyserver (via gpg --send-keys [my key id]) to 
 keyserver subkeys.pgp.net.
 However key is still not updated after few hours.
 What are normal delays ? 

There is not an easy answer to that question.  subkeys.pgp.net is not
actually a keyserver, but rather a collection of (at the moment) 5
different keyservers.  When you use it, you get one server from the
pool in a round-robin fashion.  Generally speaking, any given
keyserver in the pool that you update reflects the update immediately,
but frequently people update one keyserver in the pool, but then check
for the update from another server in the pool which hasn't gotten it
yet.

That said, if you don't see an update by tomorrow, I'd send it again.

David

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