Re: Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-18 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 02:43, papill...@gmail.com said:

 Let me ask this: are there any major security implications (aside from
 sacrificing the security of pinentry) to hacking gpg2 to not use agent?

You simply can't use gpg2 without gpg-agent.  It is a part of GnuPG and
required.  Yes, these changes are permanent.  gpg-agent is designed to
take care of all private key operations.  Thus gpg and gpgsm only need
to care about public key and the per messages session keys.
Modularizing a system in this way is much safer; it is similar to what
you do with a smartcard or a HSM.


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:42, papill...@gmail.com said:

 For some reason, every time I do anything to an encrypted message, I
 have to re-enter my passphrase. If I open a message, I enter my
 passphrase, then, when I reply to it, I have to enter it again. And to
 send that reply? Yep, enter it again!

Your gpg-agent is not installed properly.  man gpg-agent to see how it
is to be started.  If there is no gpg-agent it will only be started as
needed and then can't act as a passphrase cache.   Ubuntu should have
handled this for you.

We will change gpg-agent in the next version to automagically start
itself as a daemon on the first access - this allow to use gpg-agent
without any additional system setup.

 system, renamed the gpa.conf file (just in case) and added the
 no-use-agent entry to my gpg.conf file with no result.

gpg2 ignores this option because gpg-agent is a required part of the
GnuPG-2 system. 


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Re: Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-17 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 6/17/2012 7:10 AM, Werner Koch wrote:
 On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:42, papill...@gmail.com said:
 
 For some reason, every time I do anything to an encrypted message, I
 have to re-enter my passphrase. If I open a message, I enter my
 passphrase, then, when I reply to it, I have to enter it again. And to
 send that reply? Yep, enter it again!
 
 Your gpg-agent is not installed properly.  man gpg-agent to see how it
 is to be started.  If there is no gpg-agent it will only be started as
 needed and then can't act as a passphrase cache.   Ubuntu should have
 handled this for you.

Wait...you expect me to read the man page? What kind of barbarian are
you, anyway?!? lol Just kidding. For some reason, with all my
troubleshooting, I never even considered reading the man page. I'll do
that and see what I can find. Thank you for the help!

 We will change gpg-agent in the next version to automagically start
 itself as a daemon on the first access - this allow to use gpg-agent
 without any additional system setup.

Sounds good. I assume the way it's started now is on an 'as needed' basis?

 system, renamed the gpa.conf file (just in case) and added the
 no-use-agent entry to my gpg.conf file with no result.
 
 gpg2 ignores this option because gpg-agent is a required part of the
 GnuPG-2 system. 

I figured that out while going through some of the posts relating to
gpg-agent. Is this a permanent change? I know pinentry is supposed to be
a safer way to enter passphrases so I'm assuming that the mandatory use
of gpg-agent will continue on into future versions?

Let me ask this: are there any major security implications (aside from
sacrificing the security of pinentry) to hacking gpg2 to not use agent?
I'm not considering doing this as I don't see a real need but I'm curious.

Thanks!
Anthony

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Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-16 Thread Anthony Papillion
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Hello Everyone,

I'm having a devil of a time with Ubuntu 11.04 with GnuPG and need a bit
of help. This MIGHT be a problem with the Enigmail plugin but I think
it's probably something to do with my GnuPG configuration so I'm asking
here first.

Basically, I have GPG 1.4.11 installed. For some reason, I also have the
binary for gpg2 at /usr/bin/gpg2. However, my Enigmail is picking up
/usr/bin/gpg so all should be fine (I think).

For some reason, every time I do anything to an encrypted message, I
have to re-enter my passphrase. If I open a message, I enter my
passphrase, then, when I reply to it, I have to enter it again. And to
send that reply? Yep, enter it again!

Obviously, something is amiss.

Can anyone lend me a hand and help me figure this out? I've even gone
as far as to rename the gpg2 binary so it couldn't be found by the
system, renamed the gpa.conf file (just in case) and added the
no-use-agent entry to my gpg.conf file with no result.

Help?!? Please!

Anthony


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Re: Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-16 Thread da...@gbenet.com
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On 16/06/12 21:42, Anthony Papillion wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I'm having a devil of a time with Ubuntu 11.04 with GnuPG and need a bit
 of help. This MIGHT be a problem with the Enigmail plugin but I think
 it's probably something to do with my GnuPG configuration so I'm asking
 here first.
 
 Basically, I have GPG 1.4.11 installed. For some reason, I also have the
 binary for gpg2 at /usr/bin/gpg2. However, my Enigmail is picking up
 /usr/bin/gpg so all should be fine (I think).
 
 For some reason, every time I do anything to an encrypted message, I
 have to re-enter my passphrase. If I open a message, I enter my
 passphrase, then, when I reply to it, I have to enter it again. And to
 send that reply? Yep, enter it again!
 
 Obviously, something is amiss.
 
 Can anyone lend me a hand and help me figure this out? I've even gone
 as far as to rename the gpg2 binary so it couldn't be found by the
 system, renamed the gpa.conf file (just in case) and added the
 no-use-agent entry to my gpg.conf file with no result.
 
 Help?!? Please!
 
 Anthony
 
 
 
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Hello Anthony,

In your .gnupg directory you want to edit the file (or create one) 
gpg-agent.conf and add
the lines
default-cache-ttl 9000
default-cache-ttl-ssh 1800

You can install the programme GPA and it will under preferences edit it for 
you. If I recall
Ubuntu does not have it so go to ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gpa// download gpa 
- you have to
./configure - make - make install. Also make sure gpg-agent's running.

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Re: Stumped and need some help with agent

2012-06-16 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 06/16/2012 05:37 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote:
 On 16/06/12 21:42, Anthony Papillion wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Can anyone lend me a hand and help me figure this out? I've even 
 gone as far as to rename the gpg2 binary so it couldn't be found 
 by the system, renamed the gpa.conf file (just in case) and
 added the no-use-agent entry to my gpg.conf file with no
 result.
 
 Hello Anthony,
 
 In your .gnupg directory you want to edit the file (or create one) 
 gpg-agent.conf and add the lines default-cache-ttl 9000 
 default-cache-ttl-ssh 1800
 
 You can install the programme GPA and it will under preferences 
 edit it for you. If I recall Ubuntu does not have it so go to 
 ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gpa// download gpa - you have to 
 ./configure - make - make install. Also make sure gpg-agent's 
 running.

Hi David,

Thank you for the help! So I went ahead and I downloaded gpa
(thankfully, I didn't need to compile it. It was in my distro's
repository) and installed it. I made the changes to the .conf file as
suggested.  When I typed 'which gpg-agent' to make sure I had agent
installed it told me it was in /usr/bin/gpg-agent. When I executed it,
I get the message 'gpg-agent is installed and running'. Everything
looks fine.

Then...

When I look in my process list, I don't see gpg-agent. And when I go
to Thunderbird and try to access encrypted messages, I still get
Enigmail's passphrase manager instead of pinentry. Note that I've told
Enigmail to use gpg-agent instead of its own manager but that makes no
difference.  The problem of having to enter my passphrase at every
step continues.

Does this look more like a problem with Enigmail than GnuPG?
Understand, I am not using GPG2 but rather 1.4.11.  However, it looks
like I have gpg2 installed (/usr/bin/gpg2).

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Anthony

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