Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 02:20:36PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
 Just received word back from a friend of mine who's a law professor
 focusing in electronic civil liberties, and is a former Commissioner of
 the FCC to boot.  He's skeptical that ITAR/EAR enforcement will affect
 U.S. hackers participating in libre software development.  More than
 that I can't/shouldn't say, since he was writing off-the-cuff in a
 personal email rather than carefully drafting remarks for public
 consumption.
 
 He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
 try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
 cryptography, and the First Amendment.

Great interest here.

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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-28 Thread Schlacta, Christ
I'll add my +1 to the request
On Oct 28, 2014 12:08 AM, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 02:20:36PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
  Just received word back from a friend of mine who's a law professor
  focusing in electronic civil liberties, and is a former Commissioner of
  the FCC to boot.  He's skeptical that ITAR/EAR enforcement will affect
  U.S. hackers participating in libre software development.  More than
  that I can't/shouldn't say, since he was writing off-the-cuff in a
  personal email rather than carefully drafting remarks for public
  consumption.
 
  He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
  try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
  cryptography, and the First Amendment.

 Great interest here.

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 Bob Holtzman
 Giant intergalactic brain-sucking hyperbacteria
 came to Earth to rape our women and create a race
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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-28 Thread Martin Behrendt
Am 27.10.2014 um 19:20 schrieb Robert J. Hansen:
 Just received word back from a friend of mine who's a law professor
 focusing in electronic civil liberties, and is a former Commissioner of
 the FCC to boot.  He's skeptical that ITAR/EAR enforcement will affect
 U.S. hackers participating in libre software development.  More than
 that I can't/shouldn't say, since he was writing off-the-cuff in a
 personal email rather than carefully drafting remarks for public
 consumption.
 
 He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
 try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
 cryptography, and the First Amendment.

I actually would be interested in how he would argue if he was the
government and would want to prosecute hackers for that. Or both. Just
like the old saying: 2 lawyers, 3 opinions.

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Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Just received word back from a friend of mine who's a law professor
focusing in electronic civil liberties, and is a former Commissioner of
the FCC to boot.  He's skeptical that ITAR/EAR enforcement will affect
U.S. hackers participating in libre software development.  More than
that I can't/shouldn't say, since he was writing off-the-cuff in a
personal email rather than carefully drafting remarks for public
consumption.

He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
cryptography, and the First Amendment.

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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread charlie derr


On 10/27/2014 02:20 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
 If there's interest, I'll
 try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
 cryptography, and the First Amendment.


Robert,

Since you seem to be requesting it explicitly, I'll share that I'm interested 
personally.

 thank you,
 ~c



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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread Robert J. Hansen
 Since you seem to be requesting it explicitly, I'll share that I'm
 interested personally.

I just don't want to ask my friend to put together something on the
subject and then discover there's no interest in it -- it seems
disrespectful to Professor Johnson.  :)


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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread Terry Munson
He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR
 
I would be interested.
 
Thanks,
 
Terry

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Just received word back from a friend of mine who's a law professor
focusing in electronic civil liberties, and is a former Commissioner of
the FCC to boot.  He's skeptical that ITAR/EAR enforcement will affect
U.S. hackers participating in libre software development.  More than
that I can't/shouldn't say, since he was writing off-the-cuff in a
personal email rather than carefully drafting remarks for public
consumption.

He rather likes writing short essays on law.  If there's interest, I'll
try and talk him into writing something layman-friendly about ITAR/EAR,
cryptography, and the First Amendment.

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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 03:51:04PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
 I just don't want to ask my friend to put together something on the
 subject and then discover there's no interest in it -- it seems
 disrespectful to Professor Johnson.  :)

I think there will be great interest on the list for it. I am also very
interested. Maybe it's time for me to refresh my RSA export-a-crypto-system
sig?

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Re: Update on USG, Software, and the First Amendment

2014-10-27 Thread Philip Jackson
On 27/10/14 20:51, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
 Since you seem to be requesting it explicitly, I'll share that I'm
 interested personally.
 
 I just don't want to ask my friend to put together something on the
 subject and then discover there's no interest in it -- it seems
 disrespectful to Professor Johnson.  :)

It would be very interesting to read and I add my name to the request.

(I remember well the late 80's when it was a major task getting agreement to
permit the relocation of a micro-VAX from an office in UK to another office,
same company, in France.)

Philip


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