encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
Hello,

how can I simply encrypt a file in "batch mode", ie in a script, without
user interaction, without need for the user to type password, without
gpg agent?

Below are the errors that I get when running:

$ gpg --lock-never -e -s -r u...@domain.com --output zz zz.gpg

What is the reason why simple operations should not be possible without
gpg-agent ?

gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: error: GnuPG agent unusable. Please check that a GnuPG agent can be
started.
gpg: migration aborted
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: keydb_search failed: No agent running
gpg: no default secret key: No agent running
gpg: gpg.conf.gpg: sign+encrypt failed: No agent running

my version: gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.12

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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Tony Lane via Gnupg-users
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On 11/2/19 10:35 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> how can I simply encrypt a file in "batch mode", ie in a script, without
> user interaction, without need for the user to type password, without
> gpg agent?

Assuming you're using gpg 2.2.7 or above...
gpg --batch --yes --passphrase="pw" --pinentry-mode loopback -o zz -esr 
u...@domain.com zz.gpg
This can only be used if only one passphrase is supplied. Obviously, this
is of very questionable security on a multi-user system. Don't use this
option if you can avoid it. Also, unless you add yourself to the list of
recipients, you won't be able to decrypt the file even if you possess
the original unless you hold the private key for u...@domain.com
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
On 02/11/2019 16.51, Tony Lane via Gnupg-users wrote:
> On 11/2/19 10:35 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:
>
>> how can I simply encrypt a file in "batch mode", ie in a script, without
>> user interaction, without need for the user to type password, without
>> gpg agent?
>
> gpg --batch --yes --passphrase="pw" --pinentry-mode loopback -o zz -esr 
> u...@domain.com zz.gpg

Unfortunately, this does not work. I get same error as before (pasted
below).

Also, what is the purpose of --passphrase="pw", when I want to encrypt
using public key ?


$ gpg --batch --yes --passphrase="pw" --pinentry-mode loopback -o zz.gpg
-esr u...@domain.com zz

gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: error: GnuPG agent unusable. Please check that a GnuPG agent can be
started.
gpg: migration aborted
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: keydb_search failed: No agent running
gpg: no default secret key: No agent running
gpg: zz: sign+encrypt failed: No agent running

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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Brian C via Gnupg-users
I can answer why the passphrase is needed: You are using the -s option
which tells gpg to sign the file, which requires your private key.

Brian

On 11/2/19 11:14 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:
> On 02/11/2019 16.51, Tony Lane via Gnupg-users wrote:
>> On 11/2/19 10:35 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:
>>
>>> how can I simply encrypt a file in "batch mode", ie in a script, without
>>> user interaction, without need for the user to type password, without
>>> gpg agent?
>>
>> gpg --batch --yes --passphrase="pw" --pinentry-mode loopback -o zz -esr 
>> u...@domain.com zz.gpg
> 
> Unfortunately, this does not work. I get same error as before (pasted
> below).
> 
> Also, what is the purpose of --passphrase="pw", when I want to encrypt
> using public key ?
> 
> 
> $ gpg --batch --yes --passphrase="pw" --pinentry-mode loopback -o zz.gpg
> -esr u...@domain.com zz
> 
> gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions
> gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
> gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
> gpg: error: GnuPG agent unusable. Please check that a GnuPG agent can be
> started.
> gpg: migration aborted
> gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
> gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
> gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
> gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
> gpg: keydb_search failed: No agent running
> gpg: no default secret key: No agent running
> gpg: zz: sign+encrypt failed: No agent running
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
On 02/11/2019 22.52, Brian C via Gnupg-users wrote:
> I can answer why the passphrase is needed: You are using the -s option
> which tells gpg to sign the file, which requires your private key.

You are right. It works when I remove "-s".

But it makes no sense. This particular private key has no passphrase. So
shouldn't signing work in batch mode as well ?

Also, I still get an error when trustdb.gpg is not writable.

I am specifically using "--no-auto-check-trustdb" and "--lock-never",
but these options do not seem to have any effect.

Here is full syntax I am using now:

gpg --no-auto-check-trustdb --lock-never --no-verbose --batch --yes
--pinentry-mode loopback -e -r u...@domain.com -o zz.gpg zz

The above works, if trustdb.gpg is writable. It fails if it is not:

gpg: Fatal: can't open '/var/lib/asterisk/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg': Operation
not permitted

Why does gpg need trustdb.gpg to be writable? I am not asking to change
any trust settings. I just need simply to encrypt file.

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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-02 Thread Tony Lane via Gnupg-users
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On 11/3/19 1:24 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:

> But it makes no sense. This particular private key has no passphrase. So
> shouldn't signing work in batch mode as well ?
Are you sure? Try to --edit-key and select that key (not the cert key).
Then passwd, for the empty passphrase. Don't forget to save.

> Also, I still get an error when trustdb.gpg is not writable.
> --lock-never
Be careful with that option. The docs say this:
> This option should be used only in very special environments
> Improper usage of this option may lead to data and key corruption.
Is there a chance that's what's happening here?
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-03 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
On 03/11/2019 07.52, Tony Lane via Gnupg-users wrote:
> On 11/3/19 1:24 AM, Fourhundred Thecat wrote:
>
>> But it makes no sense. This particular private key has no passphrase. So
>> shouldn't signing work in batch mode as well ?
> Are you sure? Try to --edit-key and select that key (not the cert key).
> Then passwd, for the empty passphrase. Don't forget to save.

I am sure the private key has no passphrase. Everything worked fine with
same private key on gpg 1.4.12

But now, I cannot even list keys from secring.gpg

$ gpg --list-secret-keys
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory

Same error when I try "--edit-key"

  failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory


The only thing that works is "gpg --list-packets secring.gpg"

$ gpg --list-packets secring.gpg | grep protect

I believe this shows that secret key is not password protected

If it was, it would have:
  protect count:
  protect IV:

>> Also, I still get an error when trustdb.gpg is not writable.
>> --lock-never
> Be careful with that option. The docs say this:
>> This option should be used only in very special environments
>> Improper usage of this option may lead to data and key corruption.
> Is there a chance that's what's happening here?

well, if trustdb.gpg is not writable, how could it lead to corruption.
That's the whole point. I want read-only access to trustdb.gpg, because
I don't want to make any changes.


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-04 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Sun,  3 Nov 2019 08:31, Fourhundred Thecat said:

> $ gpg --list-secret-keys
> gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
> gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory

Your system is not properly installed.  It is missing the gpg-agent
which is a mandatory part of GnuPG.  Except for some esoteric commands
there is no way to use gpg without gpg-agent.  The gpg-agent is used for
private keys as well as to provide a couple of other information like a
useful iteration count for the S2K mechanism.


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-04 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
On 04/11/2019 12.34, Werner Koch wrote:
> On Sun,  3 Nov 2019 08:31, Fourhundred Thecat said:
>
>> $ gpg --list-secret-keys
>> gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
>> gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
>
> Your system is not properly installed.  It is missing the gpg-agent
> which is a mandatory part of GnuPG.  Except for some esoteric commands
> there is no way to use gpg without gpg-agent.  The gpg-agent is used for
> private keys as well as to provide a couple of other information like a
> useful iteration count for the S2K mechanism.

Yes, that is exactly the problem. Why should simple operations require
gpg agent ?

Imagine the authors of "cat" or "ls" decided that these utilities no
longer work without cat-agent or ls-agent.

What will be next? gpg will not work without gnome desktop ?






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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-04 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Mon,  4 Nov 2019 16:49, Fourhundred Thecat said:

> Yes, that is exactly the problem. Why should simple operations require
> gpg agent ?

The manual has a chapter on the architecture, please read it to
understand the design goals and how it was implemented nearly 20 years
ago.

> Imagine the authors of "cat" or "ls" decided that these utilities no

Separation of duties is an important part of the Unix philosophy.  Thus
we use gpg-agent to handle the operations which require private keys and
also for some minor things which benefit from being implemented in a
daemon.


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-04 Thread Fourhundred Thecat
On 04/11/2019 17.12, Werner Koch wrote:
> On Mon,  4 Nov 2019 16:49, Fourhundred Thecat said:
>> Imagine the authors of "cat" or "ls" decided that these utilities no
>
> Separation of duties is an important part of the Unix philosophy.  Thus
> we use gpg-agent to handle the operations which require private keys and
> also for some minor things which benefit from being implemented in a
> daemon.

Excuse me, but taking a core system utility and making it dependent on a
daemon running at all times is not Unix philosophy.


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-04 Thread Tony Lane via Gnupg-users
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On 11/4/19 11:12 AM, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote:
> Separation of duties is an important part of the Unix philosophy.  Thus
> we use gpg-agent to handle the operations which require private keys and
> also for some minor things which benefit from being implemented in a
> daemon.

I must disagree here. GPG is modular, and it's monolithic. A piece of software 
is modular if it is decomposable into distinct functional units such that each 
unit addresses a specific concern. This- the gpg-agent seems to do very well.
A piece of software is monolithic if its components (if it has any at all) are 
tightly coupled--that is, components logically depend on one another to the 
point where using them in different contexts requires re-implementing the 
missing ones. The point is, despite the fact that gpg-agent (and tools) is 
comprised of multiple binaries, the hierarchical logical coupling between them 
means that it is more accurate to think of them parts of the same program as a 
unit that just happens to run in separate address spaces. They are not truly 
independent, composable programs.
I do not think that it was the intent to develop gpg-agent as an interface that 
could be replaced by some other agent but instead to be run, as you said, as a 
daemon that provides helper functions in the background. For this reason I 
think it was a mistake to decouple the gpg-agent from the gpg core in this way, 
and to say that this agent was made with the unix philosophy in mind. Perhaps 
it would've been better to write the gpg-agent as a shared library to be called 
by the core instead. Well, we're probably too far down down the rabbit hole to 
change that now.

Oh, wait, it's free software. We _can_ change it. And redistribute those 
changes.
God I love free software. So, any volunteers?
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-05 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Mon,  4 Nov 2019 18:10, Tony Lane said:

> was made with the unix philosophy in mind. Perhaps it would've been
> better to write the gpg-agent as a shared library to be called by the
> core instead. Well, we're probably too far down down the rabbit hole

The process boundary has security advantages and is one of the reasons
why this is not just a shared library.  Or why gpg is not a shared
library itself.  By splitting GnuPG into an OpenPGP part (gpg) and a
private key handling part (gpg-agent) we have a couple of benefits:

- We reduce the amount of code and of linked other shared libraries which
  come in touch with the sensitive private key material.
- The gpg-agent does not need to care about the complicated OpenPGP
  protocol (or gpgsm not about the more complicated CMS/X.509 protocol).
- No user interface required.
- Exploitable bugs in gpg must not immediately compromise private keys.
- We can can store/cache data in memory and do not need to load and
  process it each time.  A shared library won't allow this.  The cache
  is even encrypted so that we could extend it to store that encryption
  key in some kind of secure element to limit the expose of that key and
  thus the cache.
- Auditing the code and reasoning about the operation it is much easier
  given the well defined interface between the modules.
- Using SELinux or similar systems allows to run the gpg-agent in a mode
  where only gpg-agent may access the files storing the private keys.
- The gpg-agent could be run under a different uid and this way take
  advantage of the even stronger uid separation of most OSes.
- The gpg-agent can be run on an entirely different machine and thus
  work similar to a HSM.


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode

2019-11-05 Thread Aleksandar Lazic via Gnupg-users

Hi.

Am 02.11.2019 um 15:35 schrieb Fourhundred Thecat:

Hello,

how can I simply encrypt a file in "batch mode", ie in a script, without
user interaction, without need for the user to type password, without
gpg agent?


Maybe you can try https://github.com/jedisct1/encpipe for such a simple usecase?


Below are the errors that I get when running:

$ gpg --lock-never -e -s -r u...@domain.com --output zz zz.gpg

What is the reason why simple operations should not be possible without
gpg-agent ?

gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: error: GnuPG agent unusable. Please check that a GnuPG agent can be
started.
gpg: migration aborted
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: failed to start agent '/usr/bin/gpg-agent': No such file or directory
gpg: can't connect to the agent: No such file or directory
gpg: keydb_search failed: No agent running
gpg: no default secret key: No agent running
gpg: gpg.conf.gpg: sign+encrypt failed: No agent running

my version: gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.12

thanks,


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Re: encrypt file in batch mode [ ref:_00D58dJQM._5004IusOTU:ref ]

2019-11-03 Thread Informa D&B via Gnupg-users
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode [ ref:_00D58dJQM._5004Iusfvy:ref ]

2019-11-04 Thread Informa D&B via Gnupg-users
Exmos. Senhores,

Recebemos a informação que tiveram hoje a amabilidade de nos transmitir e que 
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Re: encrypt file in batch mode [ ref:_00D58dJQM._5004IuslU0:ref ]

2019-11-04 Thread Informa D&B via Gnupg-users
Exmos. Senhores,

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