Re: Next GNUstep release

2020-02-27 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:09 AM Fred Kiefer  wrote:
> And most importantly, Ivan will you have time to cut all these releases? Of 
> course we could move that point around a week or two if that date fits better

I've only now seen this.

This is ok and please coordinate with me closer to the release date.
It's nearly zero effort for me if maintainers keep up to date
Documentation/news.texi and other files you can see me updating by
hand just before release. Most time-consuming is a) sorting out
through 'what changed' and revising news.texi et al, b) getting the
GPG signing key to work, c) coordinating what version we should have
actually bumped to because we might break Debian automated checks etc.

I'm ok doing all these, but more I have to do, more planning do I have
to put into dedicating huge blocks of time to a release.

(Note, having package maintainers and distro packaging maintainers
online -- preferably in a realtime groupchat e.g. on IRC -- when
cutting a release would not be a bad thing. This means we can sort out
and test any issues within hours rather than days.)

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:10 PM Riccardo Mottola
 wrote:
> before a release, I would like these issues to find a solution.
>
> - understand why we don't work properly on my ThinkPad T23 neither with
> the Cairo nor with the xlib backend with similar issues

Did you date when things broke and at what change?

I'm afraid that when I'm cutting a release I only use a single
platform (Ubuntu or Debian amd64 with libobjc2 and clang) with usually
one or two backend configs (usually cairo). Sometimes I build with GCC
or with GCC runtime. I don't have other environments around, including
a working environment on Windows.

I don't know what should be release blockers, I'm leaving that to
individual package maintainers.

> - understand/fix/workaround the libobjc2 which impede me to test current
> GNUstep on any FreeBSD 11.x and 12.x I currently have on i386 and amd64

Honestly, I would have expected that libobjc2 FreeBSD should work out
of the box given David is/was working on FreeBSD...



Re: Next GNUstep release

2020-02-27 Thread Sergii Stoian
Hi,

> On Feb 27, 2020, at 23:09, Riccardo Mottola  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> before a release, I would like these issues to find a solution.
> 
> - understand why we don't work properly on my ThinkPad T23 neither with the 
> Cairo nor with the xlib backend with similar issues

Could you please be more specific and describe these issues?

> - understand/fix/workaround the libobjc2 which impede me to test current 
> GNUstep on any FreeBSD 11.x and 12.x I currently have on i386 and amd64
> 
> afterwards a "run" on our current applications would be fine. After core 
> release, I think a release of acouple of other apps could be nice. 
> ProjectCenter and some GAP apps should go. I will also finalize a PRICE 
> release in the next weeks.
> 
> Riccardo
> 

Sergii


Re: Next GNUstep release

2020-02-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola

Hi,

before a release, I would like these issues to find a solution.

- understand why we don't work properly on my ThinkPad T23 neither with 
the Cairo nor with the xlib backend with similar issues
- understand/fix/workaround the libobjc2 which impede me to test current 
GNUstep on any FreeBSD 11.x and 12.x I currently have on i386 and amd64


afterwards a "run" on our current applications would be fine. After core 
release, I think a release of acouple of other apps could be nice. 
ProjectCenter and some GAP apps should go. I will also finalize a PRICE 
release in the next weeks.


Riccardo