Re: CYGWIN Problems

2008-12-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hey Darryl,

GNUstep on c ygwin is currently not functional anymore, although there has
been discussion to revive it.

The current preferrred way to have GNUstep on windows is to use mingw. We
have an adapted version of MinGW which installs together will all the
necessary dependencies and comes with a practical windows installer, you can
download it from our site.

It comes with a core and a system installer, one is the mingw base runtime
with debugger, basic mingw, compiler and all requried dependencies, the rest
is the core gnustep system. It comes with no applications, which you can
easily install yourself as you would on a unix system.

You can also update the core gnustep system easily.

Using mingw, GNUstep applications run drawing the Win32 API and GDI, thus
they are essentially native in the working, but not in the look, which is
the same as on unix. It does not reqwuire X11 however.
GNUstep on windows is currently usable, but it is not exactly on par with
the standard experience on the major unix system. I have successfully
compiled and sued several applications though.

The development tools themselves to work, PRICE does work and most of the
GAP user applications do work, not the system ones though, due to the lack
of some system calls in mingw.

Have a nice hacking,
   Riccardo
- Original Message - 
From: "Darryl Agostinelli" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:08 PM
Subject: CYGWIN Problems


> Hi,
> I'm having some trouble getting GNUStep to work on CygWin.  Then I found
out
> that it's not officially supported.  I'm sad. So, this is a plea email.
>



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Re: CYGWIN Problems

2008-12-25 Thread Adam Fedor


On Dec 24, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Darryl Agostinelli wrote:



2) gnustep-startup-0.20.1 has this progressive_mode problem with  
libJpeg.  I

see that gnustep-gui-0.16.0 doesn't have that problem, but it's not in
gnustep-startup-0.20.1.

3) So I tried to fake out gnustep-startup-0.20.1, by putting in the  
tar ball

for gnustep-gui-0.16.0 and getting rid of the one that comes with
gnustep-startup-0.20.1, but that didn't work.  I got some error about
"VERSIONS" not being found (see attached log)

4) I also tried to run ./configure on the individual packages like
gnustep-gui-0.16.0, but it complains that it can't find install-sh.   
"make"

doesn't work because it can't find stuff that needs to be created by
./configure.



I just released gnustep-startup-0.22.0 which should fix the jpeg  
problem.   I'm not sure why you have trouble compiling individual  
packages though. install.sh should be in the packages.  Perhaps if I  
saw the exact log.



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Re: CYGWIN Problems

2008-12-25 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Darryl,


We are taking a look at adding the option to install on Cygwin back into 
GNUstep (it previously worked).  :)

In the meantime you might be interested in the MinGW installers here:
http://www.gnustep.org/resources/sources.html#windows

The installers should install a basic MinGW system and gnustep core which will 
allow you to run any programs you like.

Thank you for your feedback and your interest in GNUstep.

Thanks, 
Gregory Casamento -- Principal Consultant - OLC, Inc 
# GNUstep Chief Maintainer





From: Darryl Agostinelli 
To: gnustep-dev@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:08:44 PM
Subject: CYGWIN Problems

Hi,
I'm having some trouble getting GNUStep to work on CygWin.  Then I found out
that it's not officially supported.  I'm sad. So, this is a plea email.

Here's my basic case...  Apple has popularized Obj-C and I'd really like to
learn it now.  But I'm a PC user and don't much want to buy a Mac.  Cygwin
is the saving grace.  I also know about the MiniGW environment, but my very
simple Obj-C apps don't work in MiniGW!  (i.e. Hello World)  Anyhow, I use
Cygwin for lots of other stuff and I'm sure others out there do too. 

So I'm hoping that since Apple is popularizing Obj-C, maybe there will be
more PC people like me interested in learning it.  And maybe we can kindly
pressure your esteemed group to support our favorite unix-like environment
for the PC: Cygwin.

There are all kinds of problems with trying to use GNUStep on CygWin.
Here's a short list:

1) It takes millennia to figure out all the dependencies -- I ran Cygwin
setup a dozen times every time I discovered 1 or 2 more.

2) gnustep-startup-0.20.1 has this progressive_mode problem with libJpeg.  I
see that gnustep-gui-0.16.0 doesn't have that problem, but it's not in
gnustep-startup-0.20.1.

3) So I tried to fake out gnustep-startup-0.20.1, by putting in the tar ball
for gnustep-gui-0.16.0 and getting rid of the one that comes with
gnustep-startup-0.20.1, but that didn't work.  I got some error about
"VERSIONS" not being found (see attached log)

4) I also tried to run ./configure on the individual packages like
gnustep-gui-0.16.0, but it complains that it can't find install-sh.  "make"
doesn't work because it can't find stuff that needs to be created by
./configure.

I blew hours on this stuff.  Anyhow, I'd love to use your system on Cygwin
if you'll be so kind as to make it work well on that.

Very kind regards and happy holidays to you all,
-D


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