Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-12-06 Thread MJ Ray
Stefan Urbanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Citát MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  My personal TODO for the technical aspects of the site is:
   1. start using MultiViews;
 
 What is it? Google is not very helpful, at least first page of links does not
 lead to the project page/description... Does it still require CVS access?

Actually, it would as likely be any form of negotiation. See
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/content-negotiation.html for info.
At first, it would still be using CVS access, but it would open
the door to change the site production method more easily later.

Essentially, pages won't be referred to as .html or whatever,
but the server will pick the best variation, for the value
of best we choose.

Hope that helps,
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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Stefan Urbanek
Citát MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Stefan Urbanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Can someone with CVS access to the pages add a large notice about Gorm 1.0
  here?
  http://www.gnustep.org/experience/Gorm.html
 
 It looks like that was updated already on 29 October by gcasa.
 Do you mean some new notice? I'm not using Gorm at the moment,
 so can you suggest what should it say?
 

Something like here:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
or here:
http://www.openoffice.org/
or here:
Advertisment of art.gnome: http://www.gnome.org/

For feature description I think, that Greg should know better what to highlight
on the front page. From my point of view, I would put there something like:

gorm announcement frame
Introducing Gorm 1.0

The Graphical Object Relationship Modeller for rapid application development 
the dynamic objective way.
* Create object instances and connect them in application object networks
* Design and test user interface
* Native support for Model-View-Controller paradigm
* Use custom classes and custom views
* Extensible through objects in custom object palettes
* Create direct object archives instead of unreadable sources

Download [here]

For more information see Gorm [home page].
/gorm announcement frame

As for the screenshot, I would display connectors inspector instead of
attributes inspector, as connecting objects is one of the killer features of
Gorm. Current sshot shows just another UI designer application.

The frame should be large to evoke a feeling that the release is very important
milestone to the GNUstep project. We do not realise it, but psychologically, for
the outside world, it is important thing. Gorm is exceptional application.
Thanks to Gregory it has reached 1.0. Yes, it is only a number for many, but
for others it is a break point for decision whether to use an application or
not. The point can be equated to a point between application non-existance and
existance. That means that is time to celebrate and to express the fact that we
are celebrating - by attractive display of the celebrated object.

 [...]
  p.s.: what is the progress of changing GNUstep website to some CMS?
 
 If you mean putting it into some web application and locking
 out editors like the wiki has done, the only person known to be
 working on that seemed unwilling to either discuss it properly
 or show their work and they seem to have gone away.
 
 My personal TODO for the technical aspects of the site is:
  1. start using MultiViews;

What is it? Google is not very helpful, at least first page of links does not
lead to the project page/description... Does it still require CVS access?

snip

Regards,

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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread MJ Ray
Stefan Urbanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Can someone with CVS access to the pages add a large notice about Gorm 1.0
 here?
 http://www.gnustep.org/experience/Gorm.html

It looks like that was updated already on 29 October by gcasa.
Do you mean some new notice? I'm not using Gorm at the moment,
so can you suggest what should it say?

[...]
 p.s.: what is the progress of changing GNUstep website to some CMS?

If you mean putting it into some web application and locking
out editors like the wiki has done, the only person known to be
working on that seemed unwilling to either discuss it properly
or show their work and they seem to have gone away.

My personal TODO for the technical aspects of the site is:
 1. start using MultiViews;
 2. start using includes on all pages;
 3. update to new design when it's available;
 4. replace application database with something maintainable
(because we still don't have source code or access, as far as I
know).

Once point 1 is done, it will be easier to replace parts of
the site with application(s) as wanted. I know it's not as sexy
as junking the whole site, but I think it's more realistic.

Best wishes,
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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Scott Stevenson
On Nov 2, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote:Something like here:     http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ or here:     http://www.openoffice.org/ or here:     Advertisment of art.gnome: http://www.gnome.org/ Or like this?  :)http://treehouseideas.com/downloads/gnustep.pageI'll see if I can find some time to templatize this weekend, but deploying it is probably somewhat depedent on having server side includes or something implemented across the site.    - Scott___
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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Dennis Leeuw

Scott Stevenson wrote:


On Nov 2, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote:


Something like here:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
or here:
http://www.openoffice.org/
or here:
Advertisment of art.gnome: http://www.gnome.org/



Or like this?  :)

http://treehouseideas.com/downloads/gnustep.page


Wow! This is great!
I am completly amazed...

If this was a competition I vote for this one.

Dennis



I'll see if I can find some time to templatize this weekend, but  
deploying it is probably somewhat depedent on having server side  
includes or something implemented across the site.


- Scott




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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Helge Hess

On 2. Nov 2005, at 21:22 Uhr, Scott Stevenson wrote:

http://treehouseideas.com/downloads/gnustep.page


Very nice!

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Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Stefan Urbanek


On 2.11.2005, at 21:22, Scott Stevenson wrote:



On Nov 2, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote:


Something like here:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
or here:
http://www.openoffice.org/
or here:
Advertisment of art.gnome: http://www.gnome.org/


Or like this?  :)

http://treehouseideas.com/downloads/gnustep.page



Yeah! Excellent! :-)

I'll see if I can find some time to templatize this weekend, but  
deploying it is probably somewhat depedent on having server side  
includes or something implemented across the site.




AFAIK all good CMSs can have includes/templates. Perhaps we should  
start considering one of them...


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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,  
then you win.

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