[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Steve Hitchcock
A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention 
repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems. 

If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely any 
e-journals (although most e-journals then were free).

Some journals that followed were called 'overlay' journals, because they 
effectively overlaid peer review on top of arXiv. The problems they solved were:

1 access to peer reviewed electronic content (when there were few peer reviewed 
journals available electronically)
2 low costs for peer reviewed content

These original overlay journals were so successful they later became 
subscription journals (mainly because they also began to overlay conventional 
journal production costs on top of peer review). There were few imitators 
subsequently because the two problems were effectively solved c. 2000 by the 
mass switch to electronic journals, and the emergence of IRs and green OA 
journals. 

This polemic is trying to solve the same problems, but the solutions from the 
last 20 years are still in place, and it ignores them.

The response of many universities has been pathetic, but not for the reasons 
suggested, and if the problem being addressed is costs rather than access, then 
the proposals here, to forcibly switch journals to gold OA, risks making the 
access problem worse and raising total costs higher than is achievable with 
IRs. It is not enough simply to talk with publishers about reallocation of 
charges.

Instead institutions should be investing in and promoting local published 
content, ensuring it is made open access to the world locally; also making the 
inevitable connection between institutional repositories and research data 
linked to publications, before that too becomes subject to outside control and 
cost escalation.

We can agree that we don't want it to take 15 more years for open access to 
become the norm.

Steve Hitchcock
WAIS Group, Building 32
School of Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
Email: sh94r at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Twitter: http://twitter.com/stevehit
Connotea: http://www.connotea.org/user/stevehit
Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 9379Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 9379

On 1 May 2012, at 15:30, Michael Eisen wrote:

 from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058
 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the 
 crisis in scholarly publishing
 By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012
 When Harvard University says it can not afford something, people notice. So 
 it was last month when a faculty committee examining the future of the 
 university?s libraries declared that the continued growth of journal 
 subscription fees was unsustainable, even for them. The accompanying calls 
 for faculty action are being hailed as a major challenge to the traditional 
 publishers of scholarly journals.
 
 Would that it were so. Rather than being a watershed event in the movement to 
 reform scholarly publishing, the tepidness of the committee?s 
 recommendations, and the silence of the university?s administration, are just 
 the latest manifestation of the toothless response of American universities 
 to the ?serials crisis? that has plagued libraries for decades.
 
 Had the leaders major research universities attacked this issue head on when 
 the deep economic flaws in system became apparent, or if they?d showed even 
 an ounce of spine in the ensuing twenty or so years, the subscription-based 
 model that is the root of the problem would have long ago been eliminated. 
 The solutions have always been clear. Universities should have stopped paying 
 for subscriptions, forcing publishers to adopt alternative economic models. 
 And they should have started to reshape the criteria for hiring, promotion 
 and tenure, so that current and aspiring faculty did not feel compelled to 
 publish in journals that were bankrupting the system. But they did neither, 
 choosing instead to let the problem fester. And even as cries from the 
 library community intensify, our universities continue to shovel billions of 
 dollars a year to publishers while they repeatedly fail to take the simple 
 steps that could fix the problem overnight.
 
 The roots of the serials crisis 
 
 Virtually all of the problems in scholarly publishing stem from the simple 
 act, repeated millions of times a year, of a scholar signing over copyright 
 in their work to the journal in which their work is to appear. When they do 
 this they hand publishers a weapon that enables them to extract almost 
 unlimited amounts of money from libraries at the same research institutions 
 that produced the work in the first place.
 
 The problem arises because research libraries are charged with obtaining for 
 scholars at their institution access to the entire scholarly output of their 
 colleagues. Not just the most important stuff. Not just the most interesting 
 stuff. Not just the most affordable stuff. ALL OF IT. And publishers 

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
Steve-

I'm not sure what you're taking with. I agree that universities should take
control of their own scholarly content. But are you trying to argue that
they have done this? Because I don't view setting up an IR to hold material
published in subscription journals as taking ownership of the process -
rather it's attempting to have it both ways without actually challenging
the system in any meaningful way.

-Mike

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh94r at ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote:

 A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention
 repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems.

 If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely any
 e-journals (although most e-journals then were free).

 Some journals that followed were called 'overlay' journals, because they
 effectively overlaid peer review on top of arXiv. The problems they solved
 were:

 1 access to peer reviewed electronic content (when there were few peer
 reviewed journals available electronically)
 2 low costs for peer reviewed content

 These original overlay journals were so successful they later became
 subscription journals (mainly because they also began to overlay
 conventional journal production costs on top of peer review). There were
 few imitators subsequently because the two problems were effectively solved
 c. 2000 by the mass switch to electronic journals, and the emergence of IRs
 and green OA journals.

 This polemic is trying to solve the same problems, but the solutions from
 the last 20 years are still in place, and it ignores them.

 The response of many universities has been pathetic, but not for the
 reasons suggested, and if the problem being addressed is costs rather than
 access, then the proposals here, to forcibly switch journals to gold OA,
 risks making the access problem worse and raising total costs higher than
 is achievable with IRs. It is not enough simply to talk with publishers
 about reallocation of charges.

 Instead institutions should be investing in and promoting local published
 content, ensuring it is made open access to the world locally; also making
 the inevitable connection between institutional repositories and research
 data linked to publications, before that too becomes subject to outside
 control and cost escalation.

 We can agree that we don't want it to take 15 more years for open access
 to become the norm.

 Steve Hitchcock
 WAIS Group, Building 32
 School of Electronics and Computer Science
 University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
 Email: sh94r at ecs.soton.ac.uk
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/stevehit
 Connotea: http://www.connotea.org/user/stevehit
 Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 9379Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 9379

 On 1 May 2012, at 15:30, Michael Eisen wrote:

  from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058
  20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to
 the crisis in scholarly publishing
  By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012
  When Harvard University says it can not afford something, people notice.
 So it was last month when a faculty committee examining the future of the
 university?s libraries declared that the continued growth of journal
 subscription fees was unsustainable, even for them. The accompanying calls
 for faculty action are being hailed as a major challenge to the traditional
 publishers of scholarly journals.
 
  Would that it were so. Rather than being a watershed event in the
 movement to reform scholarly publishing, the tepidness of the committee?s
 recommendations, and the silence of the university?s administration, are
 just the latest manifestation of the toothless response of American
 universities to the ?serials crisis? that has plagued libraries for decades.
 
  Had the leaders major research universities attacked this issue head on
 when the deep economic flaws in system became apparent, or if they?d showed
 even an ounce of spine in the ensuing twenty or so years, the
 subscription-based model that is the root of the problem would have long
 ago been eliminated. The solutions have always been clear. Universities
 should have stopped paying for subscriptions, forcing publishers to adopt
 alternative economic models. And they should have started to reshape the
 criteria for hiring, promotion and tenure, so that current and aspiring
 faculty did not feel compelled to publish in journals that were bankrupting
 the system. But they did neither, choosing instead to let the problem
 fester. And even as cries from the library community intensify, our
 universities continue to shovel billions of dollars a year to publishers
 while they repeatedly fail to take the simple steps that could fix the
 problem overnight.
 
  The roots of the serials crisis
 
  Virtually all of the problems in scholarly publishing stem from the
 simple act, repeated millions of times a year, of a scholar signing over
 copyright in their work to the journal in which their work is to appear.
 When they do 

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
I did mention it briefly, saying Their inaction also cost them the chance
to reclaim the primary role they once held (through their university
presses) in communicating the output of their scholars.

But, look, not every thing anyone writes about scholarly publishing can
touch on every aspect of the problem and possible solutions. I was
responding to the ridiculous accolades being given to Harvard for their
latest challenge to publishers. Their complaint was about the rising cost
of journals, and I wanted to point out that they're facing this problem
because they've never tried to deal with it. This rising cost of journals
is, obviously, related to, but not identical to, the problem of providing
access to a university's scholarly output. This is another area where the
university's response has been woefully inadequate, but it was not the
subject of my post.





On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh94r at 
ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote:

  I agree that universities should take control of their own scholarly
 content.

 Mike,   Where does your article say this? How are you proposing they do
 this? Perhaps this was not an angle you wanted to cover in this article,
 but hard to ignore in a 20 year view.

 Repositories were not attempting to 'challenge' the system, but to solve
 the access problem, by working with and extending the system. They do that,
 for people who use repositories.

 Nor are repositories trying to take 'ownership' of the process, although
 the more content they can provide the more of a stake they have in
 continuing the process towards more access.

 These sound like terms used when someone wants to solve a problem by first
 replacing the incumbents, rather than someone who first wants to solve the
 problem.

 Steve

 On 1 May 2012, at 17:34, Michael Eisen wrote:

  Steve-
 
  I'm not sure what you're taking with. I agree that universities should
 take control of their own scholarly content. But are you trying to argue
 that they have done this? Because I don't view setting up an IR to hold
 material published in subscription journals as taking ownership of the
 process - rather it's attempting to have it both ways without actually
 challenging the system in any meaningful way.
 
  -Mike
 
  On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh94r at ecs.soton.ac.uk
 wrote:
  A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention
 repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems.
 
  If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely
 any e-journals (although most e-journals then were free).
 
  Some journals that followed were called 'overlay' journals, because they
 effectively overlaid peer review on top of arXiv. The problems they solved
 were:
 
  1 access to peer reviewed electronic content (when there were few peer
 reviewed journals available electronically)
  2 low costs for peer reviewed content
 
  These original overlay journals were so successful they later became
 subscription journals (mainly because they also began to overlay
 conventional journal production costs on top of peer review). There were
 few imitators subsequently because the two problems were effectively solved
 c. 2000 by the mass switch to electronic journals, and the emergence of IRs
 and green OA journals.
 
  This polemic is trying to solve the same problems, but the solutions
 from the last 20 years are still in place, and it ignores them.
 
  The response of many universities has been pathetic, but not for the
 reasons suggested, and if the problem being addressed is costs rather than
 access, then the proposals here, to forcibly switch journals to gold OA,
 risks making the access problem worse and raising total costs higher than
 is achievable with IRs. It is not enough simply to talk with publishers
 about reallocation of charges.
 
  Instead institutions should be investing in and promoting local
 published content, ensuring it is made open access to the world locally;
 also making the inevitable connection between institutional repositories
 and research data linked to publications, before that too becomes subject
 to outside control and cost escalation.
 
  We can agree that we don't want it to take 15 more years for open access
 to become the norm.
 
  Steve Hitchcock
  WAIS Group, Building 32
  School of Electronics and Computer Science
  University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
  Email: sh94r at ecs.soton.ac.uk
  Twitter: http://twitter.com/stevehit
  Connotea: http://www.connotea.org/user/stevehit
  Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 9379Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 9379
 
  On 1 May 2012, at 15:30, Michael Eisen wrote:
 
   from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058
   20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities
 to the crisis in scholarly publishing
   By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012
   When Harvard University says it can not afford something, people
 notice. So it was last month when a faculty committee examining the future
 

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Steve Hitchcock
 I agree that universities should take control of their own scholarly content.

Mike,   Where does your article say this? How are you proposing they do this? 
Perhaps this was not an angle you wanted to cover in this article, but hard to 
ignore in a 20 year view.

Repositories were not attempting to 'challenge' the system, but to solve the 
access problem, by working with and extending the system. They do that, for 
people who use repositories. 

Nor are repositories trying to take 'ownership' of the process, although the 
more content they can provide the more of a stake they have in continuing the 
process towards more access.

These sound like terms used when someone wants to solve a problem by first 
replacing the incumbents, rather than someone who first wants to solve the 
problem.

Steve

On 1 May 2012, at 17:34, Michael Eisen wrote:

 Steve-
 
 I'm not sure what you're taking with. I agree that universities should take 
 control of their own scholarly content. But are you trying to argue that they 
 have done this? Because I don't view setting up an IR to hold material 
 published in subscription journals as taking ownership of the process - 
 rather it's attempting to have it both ways without actually challenging the 
 system in any meaningful way.
 
 -Mike
 
 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
 A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention 
 repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems.
 
 If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely any 
 e-journals (although most e-journals then were free).
 
 Some journals that followed were called 'overlay' journals, because they 
 effectively overlaid peer review on top of arXiv. The problems they solved 
 were:
 
 1 access to peer reviewed electronic content (when there were few peer 
 reviewed journals available electronically)
 2 low costs for peer reviewed content
 
 These original overlay journals were so successful they later became 
 subscription journals (mainly because they also began to overlay conventional 
 journal production costs on top of peer review). There were few imitators 
 subsequently because the two problems were effectively solved c. 2000 by the 
 mass switch to electronic journals, and the emergence of IRs and green OA 
 journals.
 
 This polemic is trying to solve the same problems, but the solutions from the 
 last 20 years are still in place, and it ignores them.
 
 The response of many universities has been pathetic, but not for the reasons 
 suggested, and if the problem being addressed is costs rather than access, 
 then the proposals here, to forcibly switch journals to gold OA, risks making 
 the access problem worse and raising total costs higher than is achievable 
 with IRs. It is not enough simply to talk with publishers about reallocation 
 of charges.
 
 Instead institutions should be investing in and promoting local published 
 content, ensuring it is made open access to the world locally; also making 
 the inevitable connection between institutional repositories and research 
 data linked to publications, before that too becomes subject to outside 
 control and cost escalation.
 
 We can agree that we don't want it to take 15 more years for open access to 
 become the norm.
 
 Steve Hitchcock
 WAIS Group, Building 32
 School of Electronics and Computer Science
 University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
 Email: sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/stevehit
 Connotea: http://www.connotea.org/user/stevehit
 Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 9379Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 9379
 
 On 1 May 2012, at 15:30, Michael Eisen wrote:
 
  from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058
  20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to 
  the crisis in scholarly publishing
  By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012
  When Harvard University says it can not afford something, people notice. So 
  it was last month when a faculty committee examining the future of the 
  university’s libraries declared that the continued growth of journal 
  subscription fees was unsustainable, even for them. The accompanying calls 
  for faculty action are being hailed as a major challenge to the traditional 
  publishers of scholarly journals.
 
  Would that it were so. Rather than being a watershed event in the movement 
  to reform scholarly publishing, the tepidness of the committee’s 
  recommendations, and the silence of the university’s administration, are 
  just the latest manifestation of the toothless response of American 
  universities to the “serials crisis” that has plagued libraries for 
  decades.
 
  Had the leaders major research universities attacked this issue head on 
  when the deep economic flaws in system became apparent, or if they’d 
  showed even an ounce of spine in the ensuing twenty or so years, the 
  subscription-based model that is the root of the problem would have long 
  ago 

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
I did mention it briefly, saying Their inaction also cost them the chance to
reclaim the primary role they once held (through their university presses) in
communicating the output of their scholars.
But, look, not every thing anyone writes about scholarly publishing can touch on
every aspect of the problem and possible solutions. I was responding to the
ridiculous accolades being given to Harvard for their latest challenge to
publishers. Their complaint was about the rising cost of journals, and I wanted
to point out that they're facing this problem because they've never tried to
deal with it. This rising cost of journals is, obviously, related to, but not
identical to, the problem of providing access to a university's scholarly
output. This is another area where the university's response has been woefully
inadequate, but it was not the subject of my post.





On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
   I agree that universities should take control of their own
  scholarly content.

Mike,   Where does your article say this? How are you proposing they do
this? Perhaps this was not an angle you wanted to cover in this article,
but hard to ignore in a 20 year view.

Repositories were not attempting to 'challenge' the system, but to solve
the access problem, by working with and extending the system. They do
that, for people who use repositories.

Nor are repositories trying to take 'ownership' of the process, although
the more content they can provide the more of a stake they have in
continuing the process towards more access.

These sound like terms used when someone wants to solve a problem by first
replacing the incumbents, rather than someone who first wants to solve the
problem.

Steve

On 1 May 2012, at 17:34, Michael Eisen wrote:

 Steve-

 I'm not sure what you're taking with. I agree that universities should
take control of their own scholarly content. But are you trying to argue
that they have done this? Because I don't view setting up an IR to hold
material published in subscription journals as taking ownership of the
process - rather it's attempting to have it both ways without actually
challenging the system in any meaningful way.

 -Mike

 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steve Hitchcock sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
wrote:
 A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention
repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems.

 If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely
any e-journals (although most e-journals then were free).

 Some journals that followed were called 'overlay' journals, because they
effectively overlaid peer review on top of arXiv. The problems they solved
were:

 1 access to peer reviewed electronic content (when there were few peer
reviewed journals available electronically)
 2 low costs for peer reviewed content

 These original overlay journals were so successful they later became
subscription journals (mainly because they also began to overlay
conventional journal production costs on top of peer review). There were
few imitators subsequently because the two problems were effectively
solved c. 2000 by the mass switch to electronic journals, and the
emergence of IRs and green OA journals.

 This polemic is trying to solve the same problems, but the solutions
from the last 20 years are still in place, and it ignores them.

 The response of many universities has been pathetic, but not for the
reasons suggested, and if the problem being addressed is costs rather than
access, then the proposals here, to forcibly switch journals to gold OA,
risks making the access problem worse and raising total costs higher than
is achievable with IRs. It is not enough simply to talk with publishers
about reallocation of charges.

 Instead institutions should be investing in and promoting local
published content, ensuring it is made open access to the world locally;
also making the inevitable connection between institutional repositories
and research data linked to publications, before that too becomes subject
to outside control and cost escalation.

 We can agree that we don't want it to take 15 more years for open access
to become the norm.

 Steve Hitchcock
 WAIS Group, Building 32
 School of Electronics and Computer Science
 University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK
 Email: sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/stevehit
 Connotea: http://www.connotea.org/user/stevehit
 Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 9379    Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 9379

 On 1 May 2012, at 15:30, Michael Eisen wrote:

  from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058
  20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities
to the crisis in scholarly publishing
  By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012
  When Harvard University says it can not afford something, people
notice. So it was last month when a faculty committee examining the future
of the university’s libraries declared that the continued growth of
journal