Re: Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-22 Thread Bernard Rentier
Indeed, Mr Graf's recurrent, outrageous, aggressive and above all  
useless comments are becoming very tiring on this Forum. Freedom of  
expression is a cherished value and should be preserved. However I am  
impressed with the moderator's patience: there are definitely some  
contributions that should be moderated.

Bernard Rentier

Le 22 mars 2010 à 03:38, Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk a  
écrit :

 On 20-Mar-10, at 9:57 PM, Klaus Graf wrote:

 A short update on the Knoll case:

 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6250326/

 Klaus Graf

 For Prof. Shieber's remarkably patient and polite reply to Prof.
 Graf's prior posting along much the same lines, see 
 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5918219/
 (I think Prof. Shieber's reply pretty much covers Prof. Graf.'s latest
 installment too.)

 There are constructive criticisms one might make of some of the
 current implementational details of Harvard's policy -- 
 http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/364-guid.html
 --  but certainly not the way Prof. Graf goes about it; moreover,
 chances are that Prof. Graf would continue in much the same tone even
 once those implementational details were fixed, since they are not the
 target of his criticism.

 Stevan Harnad

 P.S. I think I made a judgment error, as moderator, in approving Prof.
 Graf's subject header, as well as the pointer to his comment on his
 website. Let this be taken as notice that as of now, no subject
 headers like the above one will be approved for posting in this Forum;
 nor will postings, even with temperate headings, if they merely point
 to intemperate postings elsewhere, as the above one does.




Re: Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-22 Thread Klaus Graf
As you know it's pure censorship what you are doing. As moderator you
have to be neutral but it is clear that you are misusing your
administrative power regarding postings you don't like.

I am not professor.

Klaus Graf

2010/3/22 Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk:
 On 20-Mar-10, at 9:57 PM, Klaus Graf wrote:

 A short update on the Knoll case:

 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6250326/

 Klaus Graf

 For Prof. Shieber's remarkably patient and polite reply to Prof.
 Graf's prior posting along much the same lines, see
 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5918219/
 (I think Prof. Shieber's reply pretty much covers Prof. Graf.'s latest
 installment too.)

 There are constructive criticisms one might make of some of the
 current implementational details of Harvard's policy --
 http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/364-guid.html
  --  but certainly not the way Prof. Graf goes about it; moreover,
 chances are that Prof. Graf would continue in much the same tone even
 once those implementational details were fixed, since they are not the
 target of his criticism.

 Stevan Harnad

 P.S. I think I made a judgment error, as moderator, in approving Prof.
 Graf's subject header, as well as the pointer to his comment on his
 website. Let this be taken as notice that as of now, no subject
 headers like the above one will be approved for posting in this Forum;
 nor will postings, even with temperate headings, if they merely point
 to intemperate postings elsewhere, as the above one does.




Re: Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-22 Thread Bernard Rentier
Censorship is needed against insults. An accusation of bragging is insulting.
This forum should remain a place where well educated people exchange their 
thoughts, not a boxing ring.

B. Rentier


Le 22 mars 2010 à 12:06, Klaus Graf a écrit :

 As you know it's pure censorship what you are doing. As moderator you
 have to be neutral but it is clear that you are misusing your
 administrative power regarding postings you don't like.
 
 I am not professor.
 
 Klaus Graf
 
 2010/3/22 Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk:
 On 20-Mar-10, at 9:57 PM, Klaus Graf wrote:
 
 A short update on the Knoll case:
 
 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6250326/
 
 Klaus Graf
 
 For Prof. Shieber's remarkably patient and polite reply to Prof.
 Graf's prior posting along much the same lines, see
 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5918219/
 (I think Prof. Shieber's reply pretty much covers Prof. Graf.'s latest
 installment too.)
 
 There are constructive criticisms one might make of some of the
 current implementational details of Harvard's policy --
 http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/364-guid.html
  --  but certainly not the way Prof. Graf goes about it; moreover,
 chances are that Prof. Graf would continue in much the same tone even
 once those implementational details were fixed, since they are not the
 target of his criticism.
 
 Stevan Harnad
 
 P.S. I think I made a judgment error, as moderator, in approving Prof.
 Graf's subject header, as well as the pointer to his comment on his
 website. Let this be taken as notice that as of now, no subject
 headers like the above one will be approved for posting in this Forum;
 nor will postings, even with temperate headings, if they merely point
 to intemperate postings elsewhere, as the above one does.
 
 


Re: Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 As you know it's pure censorship what you are doing. As moderator you
 have to be neutral but it is clear that you are misusing your
 administrative power regarding postings you don't like.

Perhaps this will help you:

Instead of a rude and inflammatory subject header like Is Harvard's
OA Policy pure bragging? you lose no substance if you say Is
Harvard's OA Policy Succeeding?

And in the body of the posting, you can state quite explicitly, that
your question is based on the fact that one Harvard Professor has 123
articles deposited in Harvard's Institutional Repository, DASH, but
none of them is OA full-text...

 I am not professor.

Apologies for the misattribution.

Stevan Harnad



Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-21 Thread Klaus Graf
A short update on the Knoll case:

http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6250326/

Klaus Graf


Re: Is Harvard's OA Policy pure bragging?

2010-03-21 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 20-Mar-10, at 9:57 PM, Klaus Graf wrote:

 A short update on the Knoll case:

 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6250326/

 Klaus Graf

For Prof. Shieber's remarkably patient and polite reply to Prof.
Graf's prior posting along much the same lines, see 
http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5918219/
(I think Prof. Shieber's reply pretty much covers Prof. Graf.'s latest
installment too.)

There are constructive criticisms one might make of some of the
current implementational details of Harvard's policy -- 
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/364-guid.html
  --  but certainly not the way Prof. Graf goes about it; moreover,
chances are that Prof. Graf would continue in much the same tone even
once those implementational details were fixed, since they are not the
target of his criticism.

Stevan Harnad

P.S. I think I made a judgment error, as moderator, in approving Prof.
Graf's subject header, as well as the pointer to his comment on his
website. Let this be taken as notice that as of now, no subject
headers like the above one will be approved for posting in this Forum;
nor will postings, even with temperate headings, if they merely point
to intemperate postings elsewhere, as the above one does.