goanet-digest V1 #3973

2002-05-17 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest  Friday, May 17 2002  Volume 01 : Number 3973



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In this issue:

[Goanet] Humor: Painful Puns
Re: [Goanet] Time to shake your Xacutti
[Goanet] Check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calangutenet/
[Goanet] SPORTS NEWS - Optimist Sailing Nationals - Final results
Re: [Goanet] Kashmir killings
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO:Experiences of an Architect in dealing with issues 
affecting Goa.

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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:59:36 +
From: Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Humor: Painful Puns

Read at Your Own Risk!  They're pretty good and some are very painful!


1.  A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two-tired.

2.  What's the definition of a will? (It's a dead giveaway).

3.  Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

4.  A backwards poet writes inverse.

5.  Acupuncture is a jab well done.

6.  A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

7.  If you don't pay your exorcist you get repossessed.

8.  With her marriage she got a new name and a dress.

9.  Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses.

10. When a clock is hungry, it goes back four seconds.

11. The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.

12. You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.



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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:35:28 +0100
From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Time to shake your Xacutti

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From: John D'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Time to shake your Xacutti


 Time to shake your Xacutti


 Toronto Star.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Artic
le_Type1c=Articlecid=1020961340827call_page=TS_Entertainmentcall_pageid=
968867495754call_pagepath=Entertainment/Newscol=969483191630

 Sat May 11 08:43:59 2002

 Excerpts.

 Xacutti (pronounced sha-KOO-tee) is what finally boosts Toronto to the
 pantheon of hip ethnic dining, alongside New York and London. In fact,
 co-owners Brad  Moore and Lesle Gibson were inspired by Manhattan's
 new-style Tabla  restaurant, where chef Floyd Cardoz blends Indian
 spices with Western ingredients.

Xacutti (pronounced sha-KOO-tee)  reminded me of an article published in
Air India  magazine Namaskaar , issue May-June 1999, The Flavour of
Coconuts. One of the paragraphs says  In Mangalore and Goa, located along
the western side of the coast, there are many recipes that use coconuts
extensively: The Goan Caldine (a yellow fish curry) and Executie (a chicken
preparation) and the Mangalorean Vellapam ( a type of pancake) . Executie
indeed! The writer  must have got the information on Xacutti over the phone
and phonetically it must have sounded  to him or her (sorry I can never
tell) as E x e c u t i e and did not take the least trouble to get the
correct spelling.

One more example of malcuradas, malcoradas and mankurads. I think it
is high time we started calling our xacuti Executie to get rid of one
more influence of Portuguese Colonialism although I think the dish is very
Goan as Mr. John d'Souza says and nothing to do with the Portuguese except
that we, the Portuguese I mean, do see it wrtitten as chacuti

Incidentally the name of the writer of the mentioned  article is Shona
Adhikari. Were I to hear that surname over the phone then I might have got
it as adli coddi and might have thought it to be  kalchi coddi!

By the way I was told that in illo tempore Xacuti used to be prepared
only of game meat, and it was always the men who prepared it after returning
from hunting.  The name derived from Xac Ku Tic or Xaque Ku Tik ,
meaning
that the dish is very spicy.

Another information that I got is that  some people call the game meat
itself xacuti specially the people from Molcornem, Rivona, etc.  I
remember a Hindu woman bringing some meat and saying to a lady Bhai tuka
toddi Xacuti haddlea hanvem.

Livia de Abreu Noronha

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Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:30:46 +0530
From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calangutenet/

Please visit this page... you'll see a nice view of Calangute.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calangutenet/

Also, check out the Photos section of this page (after logging into 
yahoogroups).

There are some of football star's Bruno Coutinho's wedding photos online. 
Courtesy, our Calangutkar journalist friend Joaquim Fernandes.

FN 

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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:31:28 +0530
From: Umaji Chowgule [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 

[Goanet] May issue of Goa Today

2002-05-17 Thread Luiza de Mello

Dear News Readers,

The May issue of Goa Today in online at www.goacom.com/goatoday/

Articles featured this month

Assembly elections 2002
Who'll Rule?

 From my Balcao
Wading towards Waterloo

Births and Deaths

Matter of Factly
Dissonant alliteration

Music

Panorama
Secularism versus Sham-Secularism

People

Sugar and Spice
Has the Indian citizen lost control?

Spotlight
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goanet-digest V1 #3974

2002-05-17 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest  Friday, May 17 2002  Volume 01 : Number 3974



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[Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
[Goanet] Muderers Vs. Scamsters
[Goanet] re: Kashmir killings
[Goanet] Corrupted Democracy
[Goanet] 17 MAY: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: ash k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!

To all Goans: Vote for BJP and give up your
RELIGION!

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 03:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: ash k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Muderers Vs. Scamsters

Congress: Bunch of Scamsters
BJP: A gang of Murderers

Whom do you want to elect?


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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 04:29:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: J. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] re: Kashmir killings

Santosh Helekar writes:
all major religions and religious regimes
continue to restrict our freedom of thought and
expression.

Being a member of an organized religion is usually a
matter of choice, not compulsion. It is totalitarian
regimes which restrict freedom of thought and
expression. Sometimes totalitarian regimes are
associated with a religious group, often they have
been irreligious and even anti-religious. I am against
totalitarianism and bigotry, whatever its hue. 

The Top 15 table of large-scale violent deaths
suggests that:

As many as 289 million (roughly 95%) out of 305
million such deaths would have occurred even if
organized religion had been abolished. Many of those
deaths occurred contrary to the teachings of major
religions. At least 67 million were caused by
irreligious bigots (Mao and Stalin). This evidence
does not preclude the risk of large-scale slaughter
being increased by the abolition of organized
religion.

There are some religious sects which preach murder. I
am against those teachings. I am also against
superstition. I also think it is foolish to believe or
disbelieve anything in the face of evidence to the
contrary. That is why many thinking people and
scientists become religious after carefully weighing
the logic and evidence.

Cheers,

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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:02:10 +0530
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Corrupted Democracy

No less a person than Chief Vilgilance Commissioner N. Vitthal
has stated that Indian Democracy is a corrupted democracy - and he
should
know! With 40% of the voters living below the poverty line, an equal
number being illiterate and the vast majority having no stake in the
organised sector of the economy (less than 3% of the population pay
any
direct taxes!) perhaps this was only to be expected. One could argue
that
literacy and economic status are not necessary pre-requisites for a
successful democracy but the possession of character and the ability
to
distinguish right from wrong certainly are and it is unfortunately
true
and borne out by the facts that regardless of caste, creed or region,
we as a people are singularly lacking in these attributes.
There has been much hype raised by the Supreme Court's directive
insisting on candidates for election to declare their criminal record
and assets, but unless such candidates are statutorily debarred from
standing for election, much good cannot be expected from this
initiative.
The reason is that such candidates get elected not because the
electorate
is unaware of their background but precisely because, in the corrupt
society in which we live, such  a background is considered to be an
asset
instead of a liability! This may be considered to be a rather cynical
view but, believe me, I speak from first-hand personal experience!
Can we really afford the expenditure of thousands of crores of
public funds to sustain a corrupt system which in turn generates
further
corruption - eating into the very vitals of the economy? There is much
talk about revising and reforming the Indian Constitution - perhaps we
should think about reforming Indian society first, as this appears to
be
the classic case of the bad carpenter blaming the tools!
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:07:12 

[Goanet] petition on Gujarat killings

2002-05-17 Thread Eugene Correia

All those who want Narendra Modi to be punished for
the Gujarat killings, please visit the site given
below and sign the petition

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/csi/petition.html


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[Goanet] re:Kashmir killings

2002-05-17 Thread J. Almeida

Which religion holds the best evidence? would really
love 
to examine the evidence if there is some book that
describes it. 
Cheers,

Santosh

I can look around and, once I find them, suggest one
or more books relating to the religion I know best
(Christianity). Others might be able to do the same
for their religions.

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Re: [Goanet] Shabana Azmi targeted

2002-05-17 Thread Tariq Siddiqui


On Fri, 17 May 2002, George Pinto wrote:

 I am passing this on from Prof. Hari Sharma (retired, Canada) without comment.  
George


George,

You didn't find that piece hilarious? This was so funny, for its errors
and conclusions, that I didn't know if the people who wrote it were being
comical or serious.

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[Goanet] Attention Netters - bad addresses

2002-05-17 Thread Viviana

Netters - I've removed some addresses because GoaNet mails are not being
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goanet-digest V1 #3975

2002-05-17 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest  Friday, May 17 2002  Volume 01 : Number 3975



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In this issue:

[Goanet] GoaNOW: May issue
[Goanet] May issue of Goa Today
[Goanet] re: Kashmir killings
[Goanet] petition on Gujarat killings
[Goanet] re:Kashmir killings
[Goanet] Shabana Azmi targeted
[Goanet] To Hell with Defectors.

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:56:03 +0530
From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] GoaNOW: May issue

Dear All,

This is to inform you of the latest issue of GoaNOW. Kindly visit 
www.goacom.com/goanow/ for the May issue.

Some of the interesting articles this month:

EdWords
GOING TO THE POLLS...AND THEN? We are back at election time, amidst the 
usual unkept promises and unreliable politicians.

Cover Story
GOA'S PRIME SPIRIT: FENI ALIAS CAJEL: The Goan feni distillers aren't happy 
this year because of a poor harvest.

GoanSpice
The Konkani-English Dictionary and some RARE pictures

News
A few things that happened during the last month

Urba (Konkani Webzine)
Konknni Kotha, Kovita and lekh


Luiza
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:07:18 +0530
From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] May issue of Goa Today

Dear News Readers,

The May issue of Goa Today in online at www.goacom.com/goatoday/

Articles featured this month
- 
Assembly elections 2002
Who'll Rule?

 From my Balcao
Wading towards Waterloo

Births and Deaths

Matter of Factly
Dissonant alliteration

Music

Panorama
Secularism versus Sham-Secularism

People

Sugar and Spice
Has the Indian citizen lost control?

Spotlight
- 
-

Luiza
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:55:57 -
From: santoshhelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] re: Kashmir killings

- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is why many thinking people and
scientists become religious after carefully weighing
the logic and evidence.


I would love to know what logic and evidence leads one to believe 
that there is heaven and hell, that there is one God if you are a 
Christian, many deities if you are a Hindu, and no God if you are a 
Buddhist or an atheist. How do you decide in the face of conflicting 
evidence? Which religion holds the best evidence? would really love 
to examine the evidence if there is some book that describes it. 
Cheers,

Santosh

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] petition on Gujarat killings

All those who want Narendra Modi to be punished for
the Gujarat killings, please visit the site given
below and sign the petition

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/csi/petition.html


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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: J. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] re:Kashmir killings

Which religion holds the best evidence? would really
love 
to examine the evidence if there is some book that
describes it. 
Cheers,

Santosh

I can look around and, once I find them, suggest one
or more books relating to the religion I know best
(Christianity). Others might be able to do the same
for their religions.

Regards,

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Shabana Azmi targeted

I am passing this on from Prof. Hari Sharma (retired, Canada) without comment.  George

**

Dear friends:

Can we allow this to happen?  Please read through the following. It came to my screen 
yesterday.
It is absolutely essential that this kind of activity must be stopped - by whatever 
means
possible.

Can the people in New York city, all the secular democratic forces, all the taxi 
drivers some of
us have been working with, and all our academic/intellectual contacts, can we all 
please make sure
that several hundred people show up on site, to counter the poison these fascists 
intend to spew
out there.

Are there laws in the US which prohibit dissemination of hate? In Canada, there are. 
Could some
people please look into it. Talk to lawyers. Drag these fascists in court.

Please, please do something. While Gujarat is still suffering, there are trying to 
divert our
attentions, our energies, from the crimes that were and are being committed there.

Hari Sharma

[Goanet] Re: Kashmir killings

2002-05-17 Thread Sidney Fernandes

Hi Santosh,
I agree fully with you that religion can never be about logic.
Religion is  oft said to be all about faith and hence the belief in
divine and sometimes(mostly ??) illogical acts..
Read an interesting article in the Time magazine a while ago that tried
to explain the same ..The article  seemed to think the human brain was
'wired' to believe in God(or a supreme being). Which would mean it would
be useless to argue logically about the religion.. 
We are after all 'hard-wired' to believe :)
Just my 2 cents :)
Sidney


 
 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:55:57 -
 From: santoshhelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Goanet] re: Kashmir killings
 
 - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 That is why many thinking people and
 scientists become religious after carefully weighing
 the logic and evidence.
 
 
 I would love to know what logic and evidence leads one to believe
 that there is heaven and hell, that there is one God if you are a
 Christian, many deities if you are a Hindu, and no God if you are a
 Buddhist or an atheist. How do you decide in the face of conflicting
 evidence? Which religion holds the best evidence? would really love
 to examine the evidence if there is some book that describes it.
 Cheers,
 
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[Goanet] Response to Santosh -- Christian apologetics book recommendation

2002-05-17 Thread Daniel_Soares

In response to Santosh's enquiry about a book that deals with apologetics, may I
recommend Josh McDowell's Evidence That Demands a Verdict or New Evidence
That Demands a Verdict

http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=42199p=1007452

Regards,

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[Goanet] What's new about rape? (Column)

2002-05-17 Thread Margaret Mascarenhas

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE
Margaret Mascarenhas
What's new about rape?

I know I was hard on the PMC with regard to the idea to convert the Panjim
Municipal Garden into an amusement park. I was caught up in my horror of
losing one of my favorite reading spots, and what I omitted mentioning is
that the PMC has done a fantastic job of maintaining the city gardens; they
are beautiful, which is why they should remain as they are. 

I also want to congratulate the PMC for their progressive and pro-active
concept in waste management, announced at a seminar on May Day, namely, the
idea for the disposal of wet garbage at source using vermiculture and
recycling methods to create compost fertile enough to grow vegetation.
Bravo!  Now, if we can only get the next State government to stop mucking
around ad nauseum with the roads, build some new sewage plants, and deal
with the electricity problems, good governance would really be in place.

On the BJP website, they run public opinion polls: how many people think the
roads are better since Mr Parrikar came into power -- things like that.
These polls always show an overwhelming majority in favour of the actions of
the care-taking government. I'd like to run my own opinion poll (applicable
to ANY Goa Government over the past ten years). Your answers should be Yes,
No or Bite Me. Here are my questions:

1.  Can you recall the last time your voltage was actually at 220 for any
length of time?

2.  Do you think poor people can afford generators, inverters, and a
multitude of stabilizers and spike busters?

3.  Do you think many parts of Goa smell like Dharavi?

4. Do you feel like gagging during low tide?

5.  Do have nightmares about your drinking water supply getting mixed up
with sewage?

6.  Do you think that if a Minister's child got busted for criminal
behavior, he/she would be treated on the same level as your own child?

7. Have you seen the bathrooms at the GMC?

8. Do you think your tax money is being utilized in the public interest?

9. (Here's one from Rajan Narayan) Have you ever seen a road prettier than a
tree?

10. Do you feel hopeless and/or cynical every time you vote in an assembly
election?

11. Do you think the crash and burn of high-budget tourism in Goa has
anything to do with the government's (any government's) lack of vision?

12. Would you rather have General Jacob running the show?

In an article posted during Governor Jacob's President's Rule on
Rediffusion.com, Kanchan Gupta, a political analyst based at the B J P
headquarters in Delhi and editor of the party's official organ, BJP Today,
wrote the following in reference to my open letter to Prime Minister
Vajpayee where I said that Goans were sick to death of politicians of every
hue :

I wish I had the time to meet Ms Mascarenhas because I wanted to tell her
that she was speaking for the entire country (minus Lutyen's Delhi) and not
just Goa. 

General J F R Jacob (of Bangladesh fame), if he were to allow it, would be
carried through the streets of Goa in a procession and kissed till his face
had blisters. All that he has done during these months of President's rule
is to get things going. Suddenly the people find the bureaucracy working
without being bribed. Various departments have become active. The police is
no longer accountable to politicians and their crooked friends. I wonder how
many hundreds of gallons of uraak (the horribly potent first distillate of
feni) have been drunk by the 'common people' of Goa this past two months in
General Jacob's honour and to celebrate the demise, albeit temporary, of
made-in-India democracy.

When I visited the BJP-Goa website, I clicked in for my personal letter from
the Chief Minister in response to my query on how the BJP obtained the
private email addresses of citizens. I have yet to receive a response;
instead, I have been bombarded by countless spam campaign mailers, including
one which contained an excerpt from Wendell Rodricks' Goa Today column,
eulogizing Manohar Parrikar and the BJP, and accusing the voting public of
political amnesia. 

Please. I consider Wendell a dear friend, but I would strenuously question
his view that the BJP agenda is the right one for Goa. And, speaking of
amnesia, I can only wonder whether Wendell has blanked out the Indian
Constitution, on the issue of Gujarat, on the PM's refusal to investigate
Modi and his now infamous inflammatory remarks concerning minorities, and
above all, on the lunatic comment of George Fernandes in Parliament
recently. What's new about rape? he said, in reference to the plight of
civilian Muslim women, who have not only been raped, but had their pregnant
wombs cut out from their bodies.  

And I would venture to suggest that any party that fails to put a stop to
such barbaric and horrific activity falsely carried out in the name of
Hinduism is not one most people would like to see in power here in Goa.

I attended a public meeting for concerned citizens on Gujarat while in
Mumbai last 

[Goanet] NEWS: India tempts overseas markets with mango delights

2002-05-17 Thread Frederick Noronha

India tempts oversees markets with mango delights

By Lola Nayar, Indo-Asian News Service

New Delhi, May 16 (IANS) India is promising to make the summer sweeter in
overseas markets, especially across the Middle East, with a larger variety
of mangoes in its export basket.

India is using around 15 tonnes of mangoes and its delightful derivates
under a Rs.1 million promotion scheme to tempt consumers in five countries
and their neighbouring markets to try out varieties besides the popular
alphonso.

With an annual yield of around 10 million tonnes, India accounts for over
half the global mango production of about 19 million tonnes. But while
around 11,000 varieties of mangoes are found in this country, only 20 have
commercial value, trade experts say.

The idea behind the promotion scheme of the Agricultural and Processed Food
Products Export Development Authority in cooperation with leading mango
exporters is to extend the exporting season beyond the two months when the
few popular varieties like alphonso from Maharashtra are in plentiful
supply.

The promotion began in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), with 15
exporters targeting the whole of the Middle East market, which accounts for
the largest chunk of mango exports. Dubai is the re-export hub for Oman,
Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other Middle East countries.

Last week consumers in Britain and Malaysia got a chance to sample tonnes of
fresh Indian mangoes, mango pulp, jelly, confectionery and other processed
foods displayed at special corners in key shopping centres and special mango
dessert served free in select restaurants.

The last leg of the promotion started Thursday in Germany and Hong Kong,
with some south Indian varieties like kesar, banganapalli, totapuri,
swarnarekha and rajapuri sharing shelf space with popular north Indian
varieties like dussheri, chausa and langara, which hit the markets in May.

The objective of the promotion through special buyer meets is to make the
overseas markets aware about the large varieties of commercially grown
mangoes, which could be supplied right from March to August, said a senior
official of the export authority.

At present, the bulk of our fresh mango exports are from March-May, after
which in the Middle East we face major competition from Pakistan once their
sindri mangoes start arriving, said the official.

In Europe, Indian mangoes face competition from low priced varieties from
the Caribbean and Latin American countries while Australia, Thailand, the
Philippines and Pakistan are the major competitors in Southeast Asia.

Mexico is the major supplier to the U.S., which does not import fresh
mangoes from India.

As the logistical cost of exports to the U.S. works out to Rs.125 per kg,
it is not feasible to be competitive in the case of fresh mangoes. India is,
however, exporting around 250,000 tonnes of mango pulp to the U.S., a
leading exporter said.

Through the special promotion and use of modernised reefer for more economic
sea transport, India is banking on a 20-25 percent jump in exports from a
45,000-tonne average in the last three years to 60,000 tonnes.

The response to the promotion can be gauged from the fact that despite
costing 1.5 pounds for one mango, a major Mumbai-based exporter has bagged
an order for exporting 10 tonnes of mangoes daily to Britain.

Indian fresh mango exports are currently to the tune of Rs.750 million and
are expected to go up to Rs.100 million. Export of value added mango
products is expected to rise from Rs.3 billion to Rs.4 billion.

To make up for a drop in mango production this year, India is paying more
emphasis on pre-harvest management in its six mango agriculture export zones
that have brought under their wing the 20 major mango clusters in
Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh.

Through better pre-harvest management, we hope to reduce the annual 30
percent post-harvest losses and improve the quality of our products, said
the export authority official.

--Indo-Asian News Service

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[Goanet] NEWS: Why Andrew Lloyd Webber did 'Bombay Dreams' ...

2002-05-17 Thread Frederick Noronha

Webber did 'Bombay Dreams' because of Rahman

By Sanjay Suri, Indo-Asian News Service

London, May 16 (IANS) Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bombay Dreams releases June
19, but he says his musical offering would not have happened were it not for
Indian music composer A.R. Rehman.

Webber says he did Bombay Dreams because of Rahman. The story came later.
I just wanted to find something that Rahman could do as a composer.

It all began with a Bollywood song Webber saw on Channel 4 that got him
interested in Indian Hindi film music -- and a Bollywood musical.

He can't remember which song. I've never been able to find it. I got hold
of a compilation of videos to try and find what I saw, which I've still not
done. But every one of them was by Rahman and every one of them was great.
So I went over to Bombay (Mumbai, which is home to India's gigantic Hindi
film industry) and met him there with (director) Shekhar Kapur.

And Shekhar introduced us and we just decided to do it.

Rahman, Webber says, is in a league of his own. I'm not interested that
much in the whole Bollywood genre. A lot of that music is really very
Western, but Rahman isn't.

He has his own very particular style and turn of voice. I'm not interested
in whether it is Chinese, Mongolian or American. All I'm concerned about is
a good musical with a good score.

What is particularly fascinating, Webber says, is the new turn of voice.
He's hugely melodic. These melodies could not have been written by a
British person or an American.

Speaking about Rahman's score for the play, Webber says: It's very funny in
places. It's very moving too. At the end of the day a musical comes down to
just this; is the story any good, and are the songs any good. And I think I
could say that in this both are first rate.

Webber says Rahman could bring Indian music to the West now as no one has
before. The kind of music Indians have brought to the West, people like
Ravi Shankar and others, was very limited in its reach, really.

Now Rahman is popular and writing really good tunes, as Paul McCartney did
30 years ago. He is in my opinion writing that sort of quality of melody...
I think it will have an appeal in the West.

Webber says he does not know whether Bombay Dreams will set a trend. When
you do something, that's the last thing you think of. If you say I want to
do this because I want to set a trend, you can be 99 percent certain you're
going to have a disaster.

He believes the play can do a lot for Asians in Britain. It would be great
if some of the younger Asian people see this and feel encouraged to do
something more like this themselves. There is so much talent among young
Asians here.

Webber says he's delighted with the lead actors. We're very lucky we've got
two kids who are marvellous. Good singers and good actors, too. Preeya
Kalidas and Raza will carry the show with their acting and singing, which
will of course be for real unlike in Bollywood.

The thing with Bollywood stars, as you know, is a lot of them don't really
sing. We have a line in the musical where someone does say, 'Well, here we
have the first Indian star who really sings.' It does get a huge laugh.

The thing is in London you'd have to sing, you couldn't possibly have the
whole thing on track, though we do have one number done to a track, and it
is mimed, and then they get it wrong. But that's for a laugh.

Webber admits he had had his doubts earlier whether they would find the
cast. How many opportunities have there been for Asian musical theatre?
When we first started to find out, a lot of the kids would say please don't
call me at home, because I'm not sure my parents would like the idea that
I'm going for a musical. But when it got a bit of publicity and became
respectable, everybody came out of the woodwork.

I had to fight for respectability. I think that when everybody heard that
Rahman is here doing the music, it was a very great help.

Unusually for Webber, he is doing the production and not the music. As a
producer, I have to take the decisions about how it's going to be cast, how
it's going to be presented. And of course since it's a musical, and that's
the kind of thing I do, I have had an input into how the whole thing is
structured.

You have to make sure the story is right, you have to make sure that the
team is 101 percent joined at the hip, and I think they are here, says the
director.

--Indo-Asian News Service

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2002-05-17 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest  Friday, May 17 2002  Volume 01 : Number 3977



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[Goanet] NEWS: India's little man to know candidate's crime history 
[Goanet] NEWS: Why Andrew Lloyd Webber did 'Bombay Dreams' ...
[Goanet] NEWS: Orator Vajpayee gets stuck in clarification mode

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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 00:56:30 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: India's little man to know candidate's crime history 

This is unlikely to hold for the May 30 Goa polls however... FN

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India's little man to know candidate's crime history

By Deepshikha Ghosh, Indo-Asian News Service

New Delhi, May 16 (IANS) The little man of India, the world's largest
democracy, will finally know exactly who he is voting and what he is in for
when politicians with dubious pasts knock at his doors for votes.

In a significant step towards cleansing a political system badly infested
with criminals, the Election Commission proposes to amend its forms to seek
details of candidates' criminal past, educational qualifications and
financial assets.

If the Central government agrees to amendments in the Conduct of Election
Rules, 1961, in keeping with a Supreme Court order, new nomination forms
will be introduced from further elections.

It is just for the information of the general public. The electorate should
at least know how to weigh options and make the choice, K.R. Prasad,
Election Commission secretary, told IANS.

Prasad hoped the amended forms, at least the modified affidavits declaring
the candidate's criminal past, would be introduced soon.

A small problem will, however, be the question who constitutes a criminal -
one charged with cases or one convicted and sentenced.

Many of India's top politicians have been charged in major corruption cases,
including former prime minister P.V. Narasimha Rao, Rajya Sabha MP and
former Bihar Chief Minister Laloo Prasad Yadav, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister
Jayaram Jayalalitha and Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati, not to speak
of slain Bandit Queen Phoolan Devi.

Though it does not mean criminals cannot contest, Chief Vigilance
Commissioner N. Vittal says half a loaf is better than none.

Ideally candidates who have faced charges of moral turpitude or corruption
should be debarred from contesting, Vittal said, regretting that almost all
political parties had roundly opposed the proposal.

But I am happy at the amount of transparency introduced in the process by
placing such crucial information in the public domain, he added.

The step was initiated by the Supreme Court, which in a landmark ruling,
stipulated the right of every Indian voter - the little man - to know his
candidate and think before electing a lawbreaker as lawmaker.

The little man of this country would have elementary right to know the full
particulars of the candidate who is to represent him in Parliament where
laws to bind his liberty and property may be enacted, a three-judge bench
ruled.

The court directed the autonomous Election Commission to make it mandatory
for all candidates to declare their antecedents - including criminal past,
if any - assets and liabilities to enable the little man to judge them.

The little man forms the core of democracy and democratic elections, as
described by former British prime minister Winston Churchill.

Churchill had said: At the bottom of all tributes paid to democracy is the
little man, walking into a little booth, with a little pencil, making a
little cross on a little bit of paper - no amount of rhetoric or voluminous
discussion can possibly diminish the overwhelming importance of the point.

Only in the last major elections in four states including the country's most
politically vital Uttar Pradesh, a profusion of criminals in the fray
presented themselves as a fait accompli to voters in thousands of villages.

Of the 5,000-odd candidates in Uttar Pradesh, 965 were said to have had
criminal backgrounds.  Of them, some 300 candidates, including some
ministers, faced more than six criminal cases.

The Election Commission tracked the movements of such candidates with a
camera, but that did not prevent incidents of violence.

Prasad said: Knowing their candidates' antecedents may not change matters
to a large extent, but at least the common people will have some choice.

- --Indo-Asian News Service

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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 00:45:37 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: Why Andrew Lloyd Webber did 'Bombay Dreams' ...

Webber did 'Bombay Dreams' because of Rahman

By Sanjay Suri, Indo-Asian News Service

London, May 16 (IANS) Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bombay Dreams releases June
19, but he says his musical 

[no subject]

2002-05-17 Thread Rohit Shukla

Hindutva = an unquenchable thirst for hatred towards humanity: a 
sophistication of Nazi strategy.
Rohit


A relentless hate campaign

Violence continues in Gujarat even two months after it started and 
the Sangh Parivar campaign to spread communal hatred gains 
strength by the day, seemingly aided by governmental apathy and 
worse.

DIONNE BUNSHA
in Ahmedabad

* After unleashing mayhem in Gujarat, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad is 
now cashing in on its campaign of hate. A fund-raising pamphlet 
published by the VHP's State treasurer, Chinubhai Patel, exhorts 
the people to save our country by boycotting Muslims economically 
and socially. The pamphlet, being circulated in Ahmedabad's 
middle class colonies, elaborates: Those who talk of Hindu-Muslim 
unity are only maligning their own religion. There can be no 
equality between Hindus and Muslims. Playing on the fear and 
insecurity that the VHP has created through engineered violence 
over the past two months, the pamphlet goes on: What is your 
security even in the most decent and secure locality in spite of 
having security guards? Traitors and terrorists are coming by the 
truckloads. They will kill your security guards and enter your 
bungalows. They will murder you in your drawing rooms and 
bedrooms. Finally, after raising the level of hysteria 
sufficiently, the VHP's pamphlet gets to the bottom line - the 
moolah. We must organise ourselves, join Hindu organisations and 
make financial contributions... After Godhra, cases against 
several VHP members and Hindus have been registered and many of 
them are in prison now... It is our duty to protect their families 
and keep them from starving... You will only be following your 
dharma by doing so... Contribute to the VHP and avail of 50 per 
cent tax saving.

* During the recent senior secondary and higher secondary school 
examinations held on April 21, the Gujarat government did not miss 
a chance to sow the seeds of hatred in thousands of young minds. A 
question in the English examination paper asked students to join 
the following sentences to make them one: There are two 
solutions. One of them is the Nazi solution. If you don't like 
people, kill them, segregate them. Then strut up and down. 
Proclaim that you are the salt of the earth.

CONSIDERING the extent to which the VHP and the Bajrang Dal have 
been given free rein to kill, burn and terrorise people, it is no 
surprise that there is no end to the violence. The past two months 
have seen over 850 deaths, more than 2,000 persons injured and 
upwards of 24,000 homes and shops destroyed - by official 
estimates. More than 1,000 people are missing. Unofficial 
estimates place the death roll at 2,000. Refugees in relief camps 
and those who have not yet fled their homes in Ahmedabad's 
ghettoes within the walled city, remain under siege. The 
perpetrators roam the streets with impunity, stemming hopes that 
the State's 1.5 lakh-plus refugees will be able to return to their 
homes anytime soon. The fascist BJP government has no interest in 
stopping the carnage in the State which the BJP calls its 
'Hindutva laboratory', the only State where its party has a 
majority government. Its interest lies in keeping the flames 
burning, in order to ensure that its hate campaign generates 
enough terror and insecurity to translate the fear of minority 
retaliation into votes. The pogrom against Muslims has the silent 
approval of Narendra Modi; and some of his Ministers are involved 
too.


Firefighters on the job in the Juhapura area of Ahmedabad on April 
26.

The most aggressive of them has been Food and Civil Supplies 
Minister Bharat Barot. For the past two months, he has been 
targeting the Dariya Khan Ghummat camp at Shahibaug in his 
constituency, which shelters 6,520 refugees. Barot wrote to Home 
Minister Gordhan Zadaphia asking him to shift the camp since his 
Hindu voters felt insecure with the refugees living close by. The 
local police, supported by Barot, raided the camp on the afternoon 
of April 23, claiming that it housed rioters and terrorists. The 
police lobbed teargas shells into the municipal school where the 
camp is located. An elderly woman died of shock, a camp organiser 
was injured and three young refugees were arrested. The police 
filed a case against 16 members of the camp, including the 
organisers, accusing them of instigating Hindu mobs to burn Muslim 
shops (those who actually burned them were not named in the first 
information report). Realising the dubious nature of the 
complaint, senior police officers transferred the case to another 
inspector. Mohammed Sadiq, one of the refugees who was arrested, 
said he was on the top floor of the school, calming down women 
refugees, when the police dragged him and his friends to the 
police station and beat them. They kept asking us 'How many 
people in the camp are terrorists from Godhra? How many people 
have weapons?' Finally, they released us at midnight. Not only 
have