[Goanet] 03 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS 03 June 2002 PARRIKAR SWORN-IN AS NEW CM IN GOA: BJP legislature party leader Manohar Parrikar was today sworn-in as the new Chief Minister of a BJP-led coalition government in Goa. The Governor Mohd Fazal administered the oath of office and secrecy to Parrikar and his 12 cabinet colleagues on the lawns of Raj Bhavan. All the four members of MGP-UGDP combine and an independent, were among those inducted in the ministry. The technocrat-turned politician took oath of Chief Ministership for the second consecutive time. He is the 17th Chief Minister of this tiny coastal state. BJP, which had emerged as the single largest party with 17 seats in the 40-member assembly, was invited to form the government by the Governor after Parrikar presented four MLAs of MGP-UGDP combine along with their letters of support to Fazal yesterday. With the support of these four MLAs and an independent legislator, BJP's strength has gone up to 22 one more than majority mark. (ddinews.com) BJP TO FORM COALITION: While the BJP party has 17 MLAs, the strength of the coalition government will rise to 22 with the support of Francisco Mickky Pacheco (Benaulim) and Atanasio Monserrate (Taleigao) of UGDP, and Sudhin Dhavalikar and Pandurang Madkaikar of MGP and Felipe Neri Rodrigues (Independent from Velim). (GT) GLOOM DESCENDS ON CONGRESS: Veteran Congressman Pratapsingh Rane was belatedly chosen Congress Legislature Party leader by the MLAs after prolonged deliberations. MATHANY REMAINS NEUTRAL: The third MLA elected on the UGDP ticket, Mathany Saldanha, though being coaxed to join the BJP-led coalition, has decided to remain neutral. DR WILLY FOR SPEAKER'S POST? Dr Wilfred de Souza, the lone Nationalist Congress Party MLA-elect, who by virtue of being the seniormost legislator is likely to be appointed the pro-tem Speaker. But reports are that the septuagenarian surgeon-turned-politician is also being favoured to take up the regular Speaker's post in the new House. (H) THE RISE AND RISE OF BJP: Describing the mandate as supporting mandate, the Union Parliamentary Affairs Minister, Mr Pramod Mahajan, said the BJP has increased its voting percentage from merely 4 per cent in 1989 to 39 per cent in 2002. The voting percentage has increased by 13 per cent during the last eight years and the BJP has increased its tally from 10 to 17. On the other side, he said, the Congress has reduced its voting percentage from 38 per cent to 36 per cent while its tally has gone down from 21 to 16 MLAs. (NT) MGP-UGDP YET TO ENDORSE SUPPORT? Conflicting signals emerged on whether the MGP and the UGDP have formally extended their support to the Bharatiya Janata Party to form the government. Apparently, the MLAs belonging to the MGP and the UGDP, took the decision to support the BJP government unilaterally, without formally meeting and taking the leaders and office-bearers of their respective parties into confidence. (H) POLL PREDICTIONS: The Goan Magicians Guild will reveal their predictions on the Goa Assembly elections 2002 today. Magicians D Satish and Dandrake had predicted the results of the elections a few days before the vote counting began. (GT) PRE-MONSOON SHOWERS LASH THE STATE: The rain gods brought showers giving Goans the much needed respite from the sweltering summer heat. Moderately high rain and thunder showers lashed the state and the meteorological observatory recorded 2.42 centimetres of rainfall between 8.30 am and 6.30 pm yesterday. According to the Meteorological observatory officer, the rains, caused by a trough offshore along north Karnataka an Lakshwadeep, are likely to continue for a few more days though this is not the beginning of the monsoons. The actual monsoons are likely to arrive in Goa by June 6. (GT) RAINS KEEP MAHAJAN HOVERING: The aircraft carrying the Union Parliamentary Minister, Mr Pramod Mahajan, from New Delhi to Goa continued hovering over Goa for nearly two hours as it was not getting a signal to land at the Dabolim airport in view of bad weather. (NT) SSC RESULTS TODAY: The Goa Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary Education, Alto Betim, will declare the SSC results at the Directorate of Education, Panaji, at 11 am today. A total of 18,734 students had appeared for the SSC examinations held from 28 March to 11 April this year. (GT) GULF AIR PLANNING CHARTER FLIGHTS: In a development significant for the tourism sector, Gulf Air is planning charters to Goa for the first time from November this year. It is expected that a sizeable population of Goans expatriates in the Gulf may also avail of the charter flights to land here and return. India received 1.5 lakh visitors (FITs) from the Gulf region, out of which about 5,000 travelled to Goa, Kerala and other places. Another heartening development was the possibility of United Arab Emirates, starting direct flights to Goa. (GT) TEENAGER FEARED DROWNED: Franklin Estibeiro
[Goanet] More Goa-related discussion groups...
-- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:54:53 +0100 From: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet] ONE GOA Hi Aloysius, I think that you are right. I do not think that Goans do not need any more discussion group. Perhaps, this type of discussion group starts for egoistic reasons. Also, cross postings creates another type of problems. I would appreciate if someone start some innovative ideas to share correct information on Goa and Goan important matters which can help Goans. Regards, Cip London Sorry to disagree, guys. Despite being closely connected with GoaNet for many years now, my (personal) view is: * Anyone is welcome (and free) to start any new mailing list. * Differences in perception could result in different lists being set up. This is neither unhealthy nor unwelcome, provided It's not a coincidence that some of the lists set up after GoaNet sees as its members mainly those who have a differing perception on the benefits of the pre-1961 and the post-1961 eras in Goa. That's fine. Everyone has a right to their opinion... * We shouldn't take this rivalry to heart, and try to work without animosity to each other. * Each list should try to do better, and thus offer the reader a better deal, and a greater number of options. This would lead to greater media diversity, instead of moving to a situation where each list tries to be more and more like each other. (That, IMHO, is what's happening to newspapers in Goa.) * Finally, it would help if we could avoid trying to re-invent the wheel and duplicate each other's initiatives, and instead try to build up a list which 'fills in the gap' by offering something that is currently not being addressed. Agreed that this is not always easy to implement, and sometimes our rivalries gets the better of us. * Of course, the bottomline is: the effective creation of content. Goa, as a society, is in the midst of a crisis to create the content, ideas and opinions that it needs. That's why it's so easy for the news to be manipulated. (Saffron wave in Goa, was there one really?) That's why it is so easy for Goa's priorities to be set by people who have no long-term stake in the region. Unless more content- generation takes place, we will not be throwing up the ideas and information that Goa as a society needs to move ahead. --FN =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4042
goanet-digest Monday, June 3 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4042 - In this issue: [Goanet] BJP TO FORM GOVT IN GOA TOMORROW [Goanet] GONAS [Goanet] WORDS TO LIVE BY... [Goanet] Goan elections and Aires Rodrigues. [Goanet] PARRIKAR SWORN-IN [Goanet] 03 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:14:12 +0530 From: Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] BJP TO FORM GOVT IN GOA TOMORROW Parrikar invited to form govt, to be sworn-in tomorrow Panaji, Sunday, 2nd June, 2002 Goa governor Mohd Fazal has invited Manohar Parrikar of BJP to form government in the state. Official sources informed a news agency that Parikar would be sworn-in as Chief Minister tomorrow at 10.30 am at Raj Bhavan. For details see ddinews.com at : http://ddinews.com/cgi-bin/ddnews/ddnews/ddmainstory.jsp?BV_SessionID=0900538488.1023069251BV_EngineID=cadceejmjlhibfeecgfecfldhjh.0catoid=31431directory=%2fNews -- Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GONAS Extraordinary work deserves extraordinary praise and support. David Futers and his GONAS group have contributed magnificiently to Goa. Please support his efforts. George Pinto ** Goan Feast in the UK to Fund Goan Teachers' Exchange On Saturday, May 11, in a small North-eastern English town, some 5,000 miles away from Goa, a social event took place that might have some bearing on the education of children in Goa. In Newbiggin-by-the-Sea's small sailing club, David Futers and Eleanor Air hosted a real Goan dinner to help raise funds for the third GONAS teachers' exchange programme to be held in May 2003. Chicken xacuti, pork vindaloo, and fish curry accompanied by assorted vegetables and dhal were on the menu. Some 40 guests attended. Jude and Anne Miranda from Baga were the chief guests. The Mirandas, including their two children Mathew and Daniel, provided the evenings musical entertainment for the hospitable people of Newbiggin. Close to GBP 600 was raised from the event. The target is to raise GBP 2,400 to send three high school teachers from Goa to England for an international exposure to and training in teaching techniques. Five teachers have already benefited from two exchanges in the past: Jude Miranda (at that time teaching maths and IT at SFX High School, Mapusa), Auria Fernandes (Sharada Mandir High School, Miramar), Antonieta Noronha (Saviour of the World High School, Loutulim), Sarita Carvalho (Rosary High School, Panjim), and Uday Gaonkar Abhinav Vidyamandir High School, Mollem, Sanguem taluka.). David Futers is the UK Co-ordinator of GONAS; Emmanuel D'Silva is the India Co-ordinator. If you need more information, or want to help, please contact David at: 6 Victoria Terrace, Newbiggin by the Sea, Northumberland NE64 6NL, England. Telephone: 44-1670-815 297; e-mail: Or look up: http://www.f-w-a.demon.co.uk/gonas2001/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 19:40:52 + From: Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] WORDS TO LIVE BY... WORDS TO LIVE BY *If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. * A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. * Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. * For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. * He who hesitates is probably right. * No one is listening until you make a mistake. * Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view. * The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it. * The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. * The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach. * To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. * Two wrongs are only the beginning, and finally... * To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above your principles. :) Have an enjoyable week. Joe Vaz _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:30:34 + From: Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goan elections and Aires Rodrigues. Goanetters, I am very much eager to see what Aires has to say now about the outcome in the elections. I had seen quite a few mails from Aires here that riled at everything that Mr. Parrikar did for Goa and Panjim. I was in Goa at the time of the
[Goanet] Pakistani churches hit by shortage of priests and nuns
Pakistani churches hit by shortage of priests and nuns By Robin Fernandez KARACHI: The inter-denominational agony of having fewer priests, nuns and ministers for the burgeoning Christian population here is growing amid stifling economic conditions and heightened interest in immigration to the West. Hundreds of appeals are made each Sunday from the pulpit to families to help end the current drought in religious vocations but clergymen say the youth of today are shamelessly looking the other way. Teachers point out that there is too much pressure on Christian children these days and that most parents expect their children to be high-achievers and excel in all spheres of activity. They say if children fail in their academic pursuits they are encouraged by their parents to take up a trade or learn vocational skills that will ease their financial burdens. Gone are the days when each family felt duty-bound to pledge at least one of their family members to the Church, lamented Fr Joe D'Mello recently. If you don't commit your children to the Church, please ask yourselves who will tend the flock when your grandchildren come into the world? said Fr D'Mello, striking a somewhat sombre warning to a church congregation. The Catholic Church is deeply disturbed at the lack of vocations, because the average age of its priests is 65 years.This figure, if interpreted loosely, means they are as close to retirement as is possible, said a social worker. Many of our parishes in Karachi are being run by old and feeble priests who find the courage each day to serve in the vineyard of our Lord. They deserve to be saluted for their efforts, he said. But it's time our young men pick up the baton of holy orders from the old guard. Both Anglican and Baptist churches face a similar challenge. Most young men and women feel daunted by the rigours of religious life. Celibacy is the least of my worries. I can't imagine a person giving up their hopes and dreams for the sake of priesthood or sisterhood, an unmarried female secretary said. Her views are shared by many young men who know their families depend on them for support. In the step-ladder to success, there is seldom any room for spiritual aspirations, said an old schoolteacher at St Patrick's High School, the alma mater of the subcontinent's only two cardinals. And should there be any leanings towards religion, these will be drowned out by the financial compulsions of a family, he remarked. The craze for securing residency rights in North America and Australia, especially among English-speaking members of the Christian community, is now almost three decades old and still going strong. During this period the population of Christians has quadrupled; church demographers estimate the number of their members to be between 4 and 5 million--which is higher than what official figures show. In recent years large-scale conversions have taken place in interior Sindh and Quetta,the provincial capital of Balochistan, thanks to the work of local- and international-based evangelists. Priests and nuns are no more immune to immigration charms than lay persons. Scores of priests have flown out from Pakistan in the past four decades. According to Fr Ronnie D'Souza, the son of former Indian Railways chief Frank D'Souza, none of these priests obtained permission for their transfer abroad from the church leaders. They left on the pretext of a vacation and never came back, Fr Ronnie said wryly. Some followers of the Catholic church warn that the ageing priest population and lack of spiritual guidance could drive away its adherents. The dynamism associated with younger, firebrand priests is missing. In the absence of that, people are liable to mount their own struggle for spiritual fulfillment, said a youth who favours the creation of a universal church. Already the Urdu-speaking members of the Christian community have shown an inclination towards religious pluralism; their ethnic and cultural roots frequently overcome the most drastic differences in Christian denominations. Such a muddled outlook, however, will probably forge ratherthan block ecumenical __ You have received this email from TV-Email, developed by Wavetech. For more information on TV-Email click on http://wavetec.com/tv-email =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] RE: PARRIKAR SWORN-IN
It seems the people are not ready yet to accept the Congress with the record they keep for corrupt governance wake up Congressmen...wake up...Congratulations ! Mr Parrikar The people of Goa has given you 1 more opportunity for good governance. Please keep the saffron moto out and change the image of this tiny coastal town. We need to bring Goa back on the tourist map and have plenty of jobs for the youth of Goa. ... Good Luck ! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] foward from a netter
Since this gentleman failed to post this msg , I was requested to post it for him.. well I hv my views on this subject and surely shake up some facts about GOACOM.. Viviana : Can you please sort this account as it seems his posts never appear on the goanet... he is subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Siqueira, Allwyn. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Block Address | Add to Address Book To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Of Cecil Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:05:35 +0100 To, The GoaNet Admin Team Having been a part of this forum for more than 5 years, I've not really participated in the plethora of discussions that have crossed my path though I've found the material at times controversial and in most cases overwhelming with forum members feeling the need to voice their opinions firing whatever comes their way, to be heard. However, most of the opinions, ideas etc. passing by this forum makes good healthy discussion and it's nice to see members taking such an active role in making themselves heard. I happen to have in my hand a small series of correspondence between the Owner of this Group, Herman Carneiro, and a Subscriber - Cecil Pinto. It appears that Cecil Pinto has been permanently suspended from the Group because he questioned a $50 advertising charge which was levied on him for 'advertising' EXPRESSIONS' Mother's Day Offer in two of his postings. I have been a member of GoaNet for many years now, and have dealt with EXPRESSIONS too very often, and would like a few matters clarified. 1) In the past when a member was suspended it was always announced on GoaNet along with a justification. Since when are suspensions being carried out in the background, unknown to the subscribers? 2) Is this suspension of Cecil Pinto, the action of Herman Carneiro individually, or the consensus opinion of the entire GoaNet Admin Team? 3) Were there any complains from subscribers about EXPRESSIONS 'advertisements' ? Was any one offended? I myself find many of Cecil into's posting and adverts very humorous and informative. 4) What construes an advertisement on GoaNet? A signature? A recommendation? An announcement about a service? A short story with a commercial message? Why should we GoaNet members not be informed of services and products that are of use to Goans worldwide? I have seen many times people highly rating or recommending a service or selling off property and what not. How come these members are never suspended? 5) How much does GoaNet charge for advertising? Is $25 per posting the standard rate? Why does the money have to be paid to Herman Carneiro in the USA? How many such paid advertisements have been accepted in the past? At what rate? How does GoaNet as a Group benefit from the proceeds? Yahoo Groups is a free service. Does Yahoo allow GoaNet to collect money for advertisements? 6) When warned about the 'advertising' content of his postings Cecil Pinto had shown a willingness to pay for future advertisements if he would be provided with rates. This seems a reasonable request. Why were these rates not provided? 7) Cecil Pinto apparently has shown willingness to pay the $50 (Rs. 2,500 approx) advertising fee for his two postings. Instead of moving forward Herman Carneiro has said Cecil Pinto is not 'welcome' at GoaNet. What sort of Goan behaviour is this? It looks like all these trumped up advertising charges were just an attempt to get rid of Cecil Pinto and his fun-digging on GoaNet. A couple of years ago there was a lot of heated discussion about Goans possessing crab-like mentalities and I had seriously objected to this, being in the company of many fellow Goans who had helped one another in the struggle for adequate jobs in the Middle East. I now ask myself again Do we really behave like crabs.. ? As a long term subscriber I feel this act of suspension was unjustified and not called for. However, by the array of questions that have been asked by me, do I risk being suspended from the forum too ?? Allwyn Siqueira Kuwait __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Voter disenchantment costs Goa Cong dearly
DECCAN HERALD=20 Monday, June 3, 2002 =20 --- Voter disenchantment costs Goa Cong dearly From Devika Sequeira DH News Service PANAJI, June 2 The Congress' reversal of fortunes in Goa, caused by the party's failure to take into account the groundswell of resentment against its poor selection of candidates and the failed alliance with the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), has cost it dearly, allowing the BJP to make deep inroads into this secular State. The Congress had cruised to power here in the last five consecutive elections: 1980, 1984, 1989, 1994 and 1999. An analysis of yesterday's results shows most of the damage to the Congress in this election came not from the BJP directly, but the regional United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP) and the NCP.=20 Taking advantage of the anti-incumbency factor, the UGDP took three major seats from the Congress, and knocked out its former ministers Churchill Alemao (in Benaulim), Somnath Zuwarkar (Taleigao) and Mauvin Godinho (in Cortalim). The regional party also contributed to the Congress loss in Fatorda, where beer baron Francisco Monte Cruz, turned rebel and contested as an UGDP candidate. Mr Cruz's presence took a sizeable 3,992 votes from the Congress' Luis Alex Cardozo and allowed the BJP a sneak win with a 582 vote margin. Quick to sense the trend, the BJP, it is rumoured, infused the UGDP with substantial doses of finances to damage the Congress in Catholic-dominated areas. A division of votes between the Congress and NCP again, saw the Tivim, Siolim and Vasco seats being virtually gifted to the BJP. An ace strategist and highly ambitious politician, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar is known to have planned months ahead for this election outcome. It is hardly surprising then, that the Congress is accusing him of misuse of government machinery three months ahead of the election with the extensive tranfer of government officials and the redeployment of police staff. The Life Insurance Corporation of India was instructed by the Election Commission to stop issuing welfare pension cheques, after the Congress complained that these were being misused by the chief minister as election propaganda. Over 20,000 cheques are believed to have gone into the hands of BJP workers alone. From=20all indications today, the BJP was set to form the next government here with the help of two UGDP (the third one, Mr Matanhy Saldanha turned down the offer) and two MGP MLAs. But the party, which had launched a blistering campaign against 'tainted' Congress candidates in this election, could see its image take a beating with the alliance. Neither of the two UGDP MLAs are untouched by scandals. One of them, a known loan shark, was not long ago under investigation by the Parrikar government for an alleged sex scandal. ---= - =A9 Copyright, 1999 The Printers (Mysore)Ltd.=20 [E-mail to Editor] [Main Page..Text Version] [Main Page..Graphic Version] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
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Mr Herman, I await your advertising tariffs. I guess your waiting for somebody to write your speech so you can act like his Lordship here. Playing politics ! Regards Uly = http://www.goa-world.net/ http://www.live365.com/stations/61664 Live Konkani Music Goa Related Mailing Lists In Your Area - Gulf Goans etc : http://www.goa-world.net/community/mailing_lists/ Other Websites From Goa-World : http://www.mahableshwar.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Goan elections and Aires Rodrigues.....
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Nagesh Bhatcar wrote: The Goan electorate did knock out a few defectors. Rumours abound that many of the defectors paid the Congress Party crores of rupees to get a party ticket. It appeared that the Congress Party was not at all interested in ruling Goa but was out to make money!! Could any 'investigative reporters' on Goanet substantiate or debunk these rumours? Believe me, the Congress is interested in ruling Goa. The money that the Congress collected from the candidates is going to be used to bribe the MLAs from the BJP/MGP/UGDP to switch alliances. Expect this to happen within the next twelve months. What Goa and India needs, for starters, is that the CM and PM gets elected independently for the position. His cabinet should consist of people who are not elected MLAs and MPs. If a MLA or MP is made a minister, he should resign his seat. Today's ministers are a pathetic lot who know nothing of the ministry they run. Atleast then, we may have a semblance of governance. -- Tariq Siddiqui [ This Space for Rent ] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] [Nwm_mumbai] chilling account (fwd)
From: sahmat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:50:19 +0530 (IST) His forehead almost touched the ground, the policemen held him down by the neck and beat him hard on his buttocks, then threw him back and started hitting on his legs. I am sitting in front of six year old Wasim Akram, looking into his beautiful, deep and very sad eyes. His innocent face and bruises on his legs and back will not let me sleep today. While Modi's administration makes the whole nation believe that they very successfully controlled the situation in Godhra on May 24th night by firing at the Muslim mob and killing two people and injuring many more, the story is very different. The RSS, the VHP and the whole gang are past masters in fooling the people. Travelling in and Godhra for the past one week it was just by chance that I came to know about Wasim's story. Wasim's grand father Rashid Khan Amir Khan Pathan, 63 yrs old, a retired government servant was not a part of any mob, but was forcibly taken away from his house at 3 in the morning on 25th May, 2002 in a so-called ' combing operation'. He lived in Makan Kuan about a km away from Jahoopura, where the trouble had taken place at 11pm the previous night. The police which started hammering the door around 3 am, abused and beat up the whole family including 24yr old Arifa, they scrached her hands with nails, beat her up with batons and rifle butts, pulled her by the hair and dragged her on the floor. Jahanara's (27 yrs) two year old daughter was snatched away from her and thrown in a corner and then the police tore all her clothes and beat her up with rifle butts. Naznin 11 years and Javed 14 yrs were also woken up from their sleep and severely beaten up by the police. Khursheed Bibi the 73 year old sister of the deceased was also not spared, barely able to speak to me when I met her during today, she kept asking for justice. After the police performed their sacred duty of beating up the whole family and they pushed them in and closed the latch from outside, they pulled 63 year old Rashid Khan Amir Khan Pathan by his collar and took him with them. Jahanara clearly heard three rounds of firing after sometime. She even saw some blood in the morning near the house but it was only around 5.30 pm when the police asked them to go and identify a body that they realized that the old gentleman was killed in cold blood just a few hundred yards away from their own house. The police threatened to declare the body as 'lawaris' and burn it if they did not take immediately. The post mortem report was not given. A bullet mark in the forehead and the neck was clearly visible when the family buried the old man. While the patriotic India is busy in its jingoism, the victims of the continuing genocide are rotting. While Fernandes and Ms. Bharti takes pain to explain to the nation that their are no rape cases, 38 gang raped women in a small village wait for justice. Their complaints not heard, their FIR not lodged. They are constantly jeered at by the rapists who are roaming around freely. Ms. Bharti before you declare again that I am lying, please consider that I have the evidence. Perhaps you have to have a wife and a child to understand the pain of a woman who has been gang raped or child who was burnt alive. Shabnam Hashmi Godhra May 27, 2002 ___ Nwm_mumbai mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.symonds.net/mailman/listinfo/nwm_mumbai =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] More Goa-related discussion groups...
Fred , I wish you had to write years ago - what you write today. Do you remember the unnecessary arguments we had / the abuse some of us had to bear ? because of the formation of another egroup - : )) Let us have a negative approach to POSITIVE thinking ! as Life is too short for unhappiness keep smiling. rene - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 11:03 PM Subject: [Goanet] More Goa-related discussion groups... -- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:54:53 +0100 From: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet] ONE GOA Hi Aloysius, I think that you are right. I do not think that Goans do not need any more discussion group. Perhaps, this type of discussion group starts for egoistic reasons. Also, cross postings creates another type of problems. I would appreciate if someone start some innovative ideas to share correct information on Goa and Goan important matters which can help Goans. Regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Re: Article from The Hindu
Why doesn't the cadre of the Sangh Parivar go to the frontlines instead of ranting from the sidelines? Rohit. Source: thThe Hindu (http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/06/01/stories/2002060100921000.htm) Opinion - Leader Page Articles Politics as violence By Neera Chandhoke THAT THE leaders of the Sangh Parivar are itching to go to war with Pakistan is, by now, more than evident. Fired by dreams of destruction, they will not rest till they have involved the country in a ruinous war, till thousands of young men have been massacred, till Indian society has been completely de-sensitised to normative concerns such as respect for the lives of ordinary human beings and till this society is `unified' by the semantics of national chauvinism and the politics of hate and attrition. It is also more than obvious that the Sangh Parivar leadership just does not seem to know what it is talking about when it calls for the use of the nuclear option. It just does not seem to be familiar with what a nuclear holocaust can do to existing and future generations. Those who agitate for war should meet the descendants of the victims of the nuclear explosion over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Till today these descendants carry the scars of the explosion, after a! ll they are the `untouchables' of modern Japan. The urge to launch nuclear strikes on Pakistan is as insane as the insistence by the RSS cadres, after the nuclear explosion, that the sands of Pokhran be distributed over the country. Just as they did not know that these sands would be necessarily radioactive, they do not seem to grasp the implications of a nuclear war? Is it possible to be so ignorant? Or does the desire to preach and practice violence sweep all rationality aside? Many observers have persuasively argued that the current war hysteria is carefully being built up in order to divert national and international attention from the Gujarat scenario. And in a way they are correct: just witness the way in which Gujarat and its multiple tragedies have been pushed off the headlines of most national dailies. Now it is Pervez Musharraf who excites political passions. It is difficult to ignore that the current standoff with Pakistan is convenient for the BJP at this precise moment. There is nothing like identifying an external enemy and perceiving him as the cause of everything that is wrong with the country today when it comes to cynical and amoral political strategies. And yet there is something deeper and rather ominous in the sabre-rattling and muscle-flexing we see today. For, Gujarat and now the current pre-occupation with teaching Pakistan a lesson is not exceptional to the Sangh Parivar, it is part of its general fascination with violence. I! ts very agenda is violence. Ever since the mid-1980s when we were to see the VHP and the Bajrang Dal along with the RSS erupting onto the political scene like so many macabre and demonic beings, our country has witnessed nothing but the systematic institutionalisation of violence in the politics of everyday life. This is not to say that politics and violence have nothing to do with each other, or that they constitute binary opposites. The belief that politics is about transformation and that violence is about destruction had been done away with some time ago. Many theorists have argued that the distinction between politics and violence is overdrawn, and that politics concerned as it is with power is deeply coercive in nature. And yet there is more to an activity that we identify as politics, than the instrumental use of power and coercion. That would be to reduce politics to violence by other means. The relationship between politics and violence is, however, subtle and certainly more complex. Certainly, the origins of politics lie in violence the violence that occurs in the absence of politics as negotiation and arbitration. On the other hand, politics is about controlling violence and relegating it to the margins. In this context, it is worthwhile to recollect the insights of the English political philosopher, Thomas Hobbes. Hobbes had suggested that violence in the hypothetical pre-political and pre-social state of nature is so immediately threatening and so vicious, that any kind of political order that can contain it is better than none. A Leviathan vested with all power by his constituents is preferable to the anarchic state of nature where individuals possess absolute liberty. Recognising the soul-destroying potential of violence, people opt to give up their liberty in return for security of life and property. Correspondingly, the Leviathan cedes all claims! to loyalty and obligation if he violates the basic premise of the contract provision of security and the control of violence. Therefore, even though the founding moment of politics is violence, politics sidelines the will to control violence through the employment of other means persuasion for
[Goanet] Portuguese citizens in India and Pakistan
The official spokesman of Portugal's Ministry of Foreign Affairs told the media that the family persons of diplomatic and consular personnel, as well as the non-essential staff in India and in Pakistan, are arriving back home some time this week, a decision made in consonance with similar measures taken by Great Britain and other European Union countries. The Secretary of State for the Portuguese Communities Abroad, on being questioned, informed that it is still too early to speak of repatriation, which however may come to occur later, depending on the evolution of the Indo-Pakistan crisis. It was also revealed that in Pakistan, besides the diplomats and their family members and the crew of a C-130 Portuguese aircraft which carries on missions in Afghanistan, 30 Portuguese nationals are registered, most of them of Goan origin; while regarding India, there are 2,500 Portuguese citizens registered in Goa, 35 in New Delhi and 14 elsewhere in the country. Jorge =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
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From: darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goa Assembly Elections 2002 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:49:50 -0700 Hi Goans, To check out who won in your constituency visit http://tdpp.nic.in/ Darcy =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 4 02:30:57 2002 DECCAN HERALD (Editorial) Monday, June 3, 2002 __ Gamble that failed The reckless and ill-conceived decision of Goa Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar to dissolve the Assembly in February in order to seek a clear mandate for the continuation of the BJP government has come unstuck with the recent poll results. Though an improvement on the ten seats it won in the last election, the 17 it won this time fall short of the figure of 21 required to form a government in a House of 40. This has pushed the smallest State in the Indian Union into a situation of greater uncertainty with the Congress Party also failing to live up to expectations. Mr Parrikar may heap encomiums over the party's improved performance, but the results clearly show that it has failed to stem the apprehensions of the minority communities, still under the pervasive and dark shadow of the aftermath of the communal carnage in Gujarat. The BJP failed to make its presence felt in the Catholic bastion of Salcette in South Goa, proving yet again that its saffron agenda has no place for the interests of the minority communities. The devious effort of the party to polarise the vote on communal lines has reached its outer limit with the 17 seats the party won. It cannot overcome its own barrier which the party has imposed on itself by its narrow, sectarian policies. The instability in the State has now reached a critical point. Defections and cynical horse-trading, a dismaying occurrence in the political history of Goa, are now set to become a permanent aberration, a revolving door through which will pass faces mostly stale and familiar. The Goan voters may well feel a sinking sense of deja vu as they watch their political masters play out their compulsive charades. Mr Parrikar, by wilfully imposing a costly, enervating and in the end, fruitless election on the people of Goa, has only shown up the myopic, short-term hankering for power by his party. The coalition he has cobbled together to form the latest government, with disparate elements and contrary to the ideology of the BJP, only amounts to a mechanical and facile adding up of numbers. The teetering chair may well topple over again. Goa has seen a veritable parade of 14 chief ministers in 12 years. If it were not for the serious concern over the denigration of the wishes of the people, this parade may to outsiders seem Carnavalesque. _ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4046
goanet-digest Monday, June 3 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4046 - In this issue: [Goanet] FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Goanet] Goa Elections and Aires Rodrigues [Goanet] Promoting commonsense! [none] [Goanet] How to kill Bin Laden See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:21:44 +0200 From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goa Assembly Elections 2002 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:49:50 -0700 Hi Goans, To check out who won in your constituency visit http://tdpp.nic.in/ Darcy -- Date: 3 Jun 2002 18:55:12 - From: satyamevajayate2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goa Elections and Aires Rodrigues Hello Mr. Bhatcar, Do you agree there is a difference between a tourist (Mr. Bhatcar) and the resident of a place (Mr. Rodrigues)? Do you agree there is a difference between a critical intellectual and the gullible hoi polloi and that it is easier to hoodwink the latter than the former? How long are you guys going to deceive yourselves about the real intentions of the BJP? Isn't one Gujarat enough to open your eyes to the fascism of the Sangh Parivar? Come on what does it take to be intellectually honest with yourself? That Mr. Parrikar is an IIT version of Mr. Narendra Milosevic Modi, only time will tell. Rohit. _ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs -- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:37:45 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Promoting commonsense! A crusader with 'common sense'(FEATURE) By Imran Khan, Indo-Asian News Service Patna, June 1 (IANS) A man in Bihar is seeking to fight social ills, including religious hatred and fundamentalism, with an uncommon weapon: common sense. Fifty-five-year-old M.T. Khan believes that lack of rational thinking and reasoning is to blame for most of the ills facing Indian society in general and Bihar in particular. For nearly two decades, Khan has tirelessly sought to spread the virtues of rational and scientific thinking through his Institute for Developing Common Sense in Bihar's capital Patna. Khan, who works as deputy registrar in the Patna High Court, said the unprecedented sectarian violence in Gujarat would not have taken place if the people had applied common sense and acted rationally. Common sense makes a truly religious person tolerant. This paves the way for unity in diversity, he said. One should not impose one's beliefs on others. Let other people use their common sense to believe or disbelieve in your beliefs, he added. Khan said when he began disseminating the virtues of common sense in the early eighties, but his ideas did not make much sense to the people. It was a strange idea then to work for the cause of common sense in a society like Bihar, recalled Khan of his initial journey. But now ex-judges, advocates, educationists and academics have joined hands with Khan who devotes most of his free time working for the institute that he has set up to promote peaceful coexistence in a highly diverse Indian society. Khan funds all the institute's work out of his own resources, whether it's printing and distributing pamphlets or organising seminars, symposia and group discussions and interaction session. According to Khan, common sense is the intelligence that an adult is normally expected to exhibit in practical matters. It is the key faculty monitoring the sense organs, helping one to distinguish between the baser and higher values. The word 'common sense' is commonly heard but not always understood. It is not the sixth sense. Instead, it plays an important role in monitoring the five senses, said Khan, while expressing his resolve to continue urging people to use their common sense to deal with all kinds of problems. - --Indo-Asian News Service -- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:01:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Vicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [none] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 4 02:30:57 2002 DECCAN HERALD (Editorial) Monday, June 3, 2002 __ Gamble that failed The reckless and ill-conceived decision of Goa Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar to dissolve the Assembly in February in order to seek a clear mandate for the continuation of the BJP government has come unstuck with the recent poll results. Though an improvement on the ten seats it won in the last election, the 17 it won this time fall short of the figure of 21 required to form a government in a House of 40. This has
[Goanet] Re: Goa Elections and Aires Rodrigues
Dear Mr. Rohit Satyamevajayate2, Is that your real name? You certainly need to change it to Asatyamevajayate2! You are unnecessarily trying to spread lies here. The fact that you take up the defense of Mr. Aires Rodrigues, under a pseudo name, intrigues me! It appears that you are the only person who understands the true intentions of the BJP and the rest of the Goans were nothing but fools! I must say, that based on the recent election results, nobody in Goa bought your canards about Parrikar. I guess Goanet is the only forum for you to air your lies! I have talked to Mr. Parrikar and discussed Goan politics with him, long before he became the CM. The progress in Goa and especially in Panjim, is there for everyone to see. If you have any facts and figures that will prove that Mr. Parrikar has been bad for Goa, please do publish them here or better still confront the CM directly. What sort of atrocities has Mr. Parrikar committed to compare him to even Mr. Modi, let alone the comparisons with Mr. Milosovic? Nagesh From: satyamevajayate2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mr. Bhatcar, Do you agree there is a difference between a tourist (Mr. Bhatcar) and the resident of a place (Mr. Rodrigues)? Do you agree there is a difference between a critical intellectual and the gullible hoi polloi and that it is easier to hoodwink the latter than the former? How long are you guys going to deceive yourselves about the real intentions of the BJP? Isn't one Gujarat enough to open your eyes to the fascism of the Sangh Parivar? Come on what does it take to be intellectually honest with yourself? That Mr. Parrikar is an IIT version of Mr. Narendra Milosevic Modi, only time will tell. Rohit. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
