[GOANET] THE GOA CAN PLANNER 2003 is now available.
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- WHY YOU NEED TO BUY A COPY OF THE GOA CAN PLANNER 2003 Dear friends on GoaNet, We are pleased to inform you that our GOA CAN PLANNER 2003 is just out from the press. For just Rs.10/-, you can have access to a well designed wall planner. Besides being a 2003 calender, it has slots wherein you can list a range of services you may need in an eventuality. Be it your family doctor, local police station or the Chief Minister, the planner provides the space for important phone numbers, one can fill in and place it in a prominent corner of your home or office. Slots have also been kept for the number of the school or college your child goes to, the tailor, plumber or electrician you may need to call, or the local bank, post office or your lawyer you may need to visit. Not only you but your entire family can know whom to call in a given time. Besides there are also slots for frequently called numbers, and space where you can note up coming celebration, birthdays and anniversaries.The planner also lists the public holidays for 2003. The idea behind the GOA CAN PLANNER 2003 is to make the telephone a tool for bringing about change. So don't sit quiet the next time the electricity suddenly shuts down or the PWD water supply is irregular, the numbers you need to call will now be at hand. To get citizens and consumers to be pro-active the planner has slots for numbers to deal with social and environment issues as well. Get a copy for your own home and office and DON'T FORGET to GIFT one to your relatives and friends for the NEW YEAR. GOA CAN !! who said Goa cannot . a message for all citizens and consumers in Goa DON'T AGONIZE - ORGANISE !! -- The GOA CAN PLANNER 2003 is brought to you by Goa Civic and Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN) an initiative of Goa Desc Resource Centre to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa. For copies contact us at Ph:2252660 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins. === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] RE: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #202 - 7 msgs
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Dear Sir, I would like to request you to hence forth send all your mails on my new ad that is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for all the wonderful mail you have sent during the year. Wish you and your team a Very Blessed New Year 2003. Thanks, Clifford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #202 - 7 msgs Send Goanet mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://goacom.com/mailman/listinfo/goanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Goanet digest... WANT TO know which Goa-related mailing lists you can join? Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Topics: 1. Why the people oppose the oil terminal at Sancoale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora (Tim de Mello) 3. NEWS-GOA: Goa: A success story in uniform civil code (Frederick Noronha) 4. NEWS-AP: India-Christmas (Frederick Noronha) 5. 30 DEC: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS (Joel D'Souza) 6. RIBANDAR DEMANDS A VILLAGE PANCHAYAT (Joel D'Souza) 7. Re: Currency rates... (WILSON SOARES) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:21:19 +0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GOANET] Why the people oppose the oil terminal at Sancoale To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Readers, Why not propose to shift it to a remote place in Goa itself? This is in view of job opportunities. If Chandrababu Naidu comes to know this, he will grab this opportunity and will make arrangement to shift the whole unit to Andhra Pradesh, and he will not forget to say THANK YOU to Goans; he will calculate job opportunities made available to his people, directly and indirectly Regards, TONY - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Forwarded by SAECO HO/Rezayat on 12/27/2002 06:14 PM --- MIME:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/30/2002 02:12:36 PM To: cc: Subject: APPEAL WHY THE PEOPLE OPPOSE THE OIL TERMINAL AT SANCOALE? There has been an ongoing debate for shifting of the oil terminal situated in the Port City of Vasco da Gama to areas where there is neither any density of population or traffic congestion. However, the Government could not offer such an area and hence the plans for shifting of the oil terminal from Vasco da Gama was abandoned. There was a proposal to shift the tanks to Chicalim but the former MLA and Speaker of the Goa Assembly Mr. Simon D'Souza rejected the proposal outright terming it disastrous and polluting project. - - - - - - - - - - - - Wake up dear Goan brothers and sisters. Join your hands to ours to fight this evil project which one day will destroy half of Goa from Salcete to Bardez. Please e-mail a copy of this appeal to your friends or send their e-mail addresses to us. Thank you. For further information please contact: Simon Carvalho Phone/fax: 2-550-295 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAVE SANCOALE COMMITTEE --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GOANET] NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:01:48 + Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV PRozario, you said: I plan to end my side of the debate here.BRGood for you.BR/P PJesus said . .nbsp; EMneither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet . ./EMBR/P PIt is timenbsp;to heed the word of the wise./P/DIV DIV/DIVBRTim de Mello DIV/DIV[EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVOntario, CANADA DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV/divbr clear=allhrMSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMEEN/2017;3 months FREE*./a /html --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:05:18 -0500 From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GOANET] NEWS-GOA: Goa: A success story in uniform civil code Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=107963 PTI Goa: A success story in uniform civil code DEVIDAS GUPTA NEW DELHI, DEC 29 (PTI) Although Article 44 of the Directive Principles of State Policy enshrined in the Indian Constitution lays down that the State shall endeavour to secure for citizens a Uniform Civil Code throughout the territory of India, government after
[GOANET] Re: NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and spread of its
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- The recent Goa Overseas Convention was a bash to the puppet government in Goa. A statement such as a 'failed state' clearly shows that Goa is deeply entrenched in a third world and being ripped apart of anything left of it. The indian economists call Goa the number one state, in fact they are laughing away at Goa's contribution to the indian coffers. Other places have been developed with this money. They send their sons and daughters to the best Universites around the world and they buy Beemers. Dear brainwashed Goan do not run away from reality, come and face the other side of the coin. Xac --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Xac, Thank you, well said. HAPPY NEW YEAR 2003. Ivor (Samora) From: ole_xac [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/12/30 Mon AM 06:18:04 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GOANET] Re: NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and spread of its -- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Hi Rozario, The indian government since 1961 has forced Goans to believe that they are a part of india. What the indians have succeeded in the past 40 years (not 40 decades) is the systematic brain washing of Goans. There are two sides to a coin I am afraid. You have seen only one side. Xac --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Ivor(Samora)'s message is disgusting. Why are such responses not caught in the pre-posting filter ? Goans are Goans and we are part of India and not another country. Believe it. Rozario WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] NEWS: Vajpayee's presence keeps Gujarati new year revellers off Goa
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Vajpayee's presence keeps Gujarati New Year revellers off Goa By Sukrat Desai, Indo-Asian News Service Ahmedabad, Dec 31 (IANS) The tight security in balmy Goa, where Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee is ringing in the New Year, has prompted many Gujaratis to cancel their customary yearend celebrations in the tiny coastal state. Hundreds of affluent Gujaratis as well as their relatives and friends in Mumbai go to Goa every year for joint New Year celebrations, but the heavy security on account of the prime minister's presence there has forced many to change their plans this time. Destinations in Gujarat and the adjoining coastal territories of Daman and Diu have emerged as the favourite alternatives. For instance, Mumbai resident Anosh Joshi is exploring the wild in Gujarat this year on the invitation of his friend Jayesh Shah. Though Goa is usually our destination for New Year celebrations, this time, considering the tight security, we had a change of mind, Shah said. Added Joshi: Jayesh invited me to spend New Year's eve with flamingos in the Little Rann of Kutch. Being an avid bird watcher, this idea appealed to me so much that I decided to stay away from alcohol and wild partying and preferred the serene company of birds. Suketu Thakkar, another Mumbai resident, will be welcoming the New Year in picturesque Diu, a federally administered territory off the Saurashtra coast, along with his Gujarati friend. My friend Himanshu Vyas invited me to Gujarat. He was concerned about the tight security measures on the prime minister's visit to Goa and told me that it might play spoilsport, Thakkar told IANS. Said Vyas: I told Thakkar that Goa would be an expensive affair. As it is it gets costlier on New Year's eve. I suggested Diu because it is cheaper as far as accommodation, food and alcohol are concerned. Thakkar jumped at the suggestion. I was excited about Diu as I heard it was like Goa, with sprawling beaches and cheap alcohol. Some also headed for Daman, another tiny federally administered territory bordering south Gujarat. Mumbai resident Dinesh Lakhtaria will be in Daman on the invitation of his business partner Sameer Nayak. Alcohol is cheap and the beaches are also on the lines of Goa in Daman. So why waste money when there are chances of the prime minister's visit playing spoilsport in Goa? said Lakhtaria. Vajpayee and his family are spending their yearend vacation on a pristine beach in south Goa. Other top personalities like Deputy Prime Minister L.K. Advani are also ringing in the New Year in Goa, sending the local security apparatus into a tizzy. Ahead of the yearend holidays, Israel had warned that its citizens vacationing in Goa for the New Year might become the targets of a terrorist attacks. According to reports, the presence of VIPs and the threat perception has meant constant patrolling of Goa's golden beaches by security personnel and armed cops and frequent frisking of vacationers, somewhat dampening the holiday mood. --Indo-Asian News Service WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] NEWS: Hindutva is secularism, says Vajpayee in his musings
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Hindutva is secularism, says Vajpayee in his musings From Indo-Asian News Service Panaji, Dec 31 (IANS) Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee Tuesday defended and broadened the political concept of Hindutva, saying it was not antithetical to secularism. In his annual musings, issued from idyllic Goa where he is holidaying to mark the advent of 2003, Vajpayee also asserted that Pakistan's efforts at breaking Jammu and Kashmir from India were doomed to failure. But his 2,200-word statement sought to emphasize the organic link between Hindutva - which critics say is synonymous with Hindu supremacy - and secularism, a constitutional part and parcel of India. Secularism is pitted against Hindutva, under the belief that the two are antithetical to one another, he said. This is incorrect and untenable. Secularism is a concept of the state, enjoining upon it the duty to show respect for all faiths and to practise no discrimination among citizens on the basis of their beliefs, he pointed out. In this sense, India has been secular since the beginning of her known history. We chose to remain wedded to secularism even when Pakistan was carved out on the basis of the spurious and communal two-nation theory. This could not have been possible if the majority of Indians were not secular. On the other hand, he said, Hindutva, which presents a 'viraat darshan' (broad, all-encompassing view) of human life, is being projected by some people in a narrow, rigid and extremist manner - an unfortunate and unacceptable interpretation that runs totally contrary to its true spirit. Hindutva is an integral understanding of the entire Creation, showing the way both to the Here and the Hereafter. It emphasizes the inseparable relationship between the individual and society, as well as between man's material and spiritual needs. Hindutva is liberal, liberating and brooks no ill will, hatred or violence among different communities on any ground. Critics of Hindu groups such as the Rashtraiya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS), the ideological mentor of Vajpayee's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), say Hindutva is a rightwing concept that underlines the supremacy of the Hindu religion over all others in multi-religious India. Vajpayee challenged such a definition. We need to affirm and promote that true understanding of Hindutva which is forward-looking, not one that seeks to take us back; that which makes us capable of meeting the challenges of the modern world, not one that is stuck in the grooves of the past; that which is reform-minded, and not one that protects obscurantism and injustice, against which all the reformers of the past have fought. If understood and practised in this enlightened sense, which is how Swami Vivekananda (the early 20th philosopher-saint) and other great patriots propounded it, the current controversy over Hindutva will be seen as wholly unnecessary. There is no difference between such Hindutva and 'Bharateeyata'(Indianness), since both are expressions of the same 'chintan' (thought). Both affirm that India belongs to all, and all belong to India. It means that all Indians have equal rights and equal responsibilities. It entails recognition of our common national culture, which is enriched by all the diverse religious and non-religious traditions in India. Vajpayee utilized the opportunity to hit out at Pakistan for targeting India with terrorism, inspired by religious extremism. Innocent children, women and men are being routinely killed, temples are stormed, our symbols of democracy are attacked, and our security forces are challenged - all in the name of a 'holy religious war' and 'freedom struggle'. This campaign of jehadi terrorism, too, is doomed to fail. He added: I am convinced that some day - hopefully soon - the people and rulers of Pakistan will realize the futile and counter-productive nature of its Kashmir policy. Vajpayee called upon Pakistan to stop cross-border terrorism and abandon its insistence on the 'centrality' of the Kashmir issue. Let our two countries agree to promote mutually beneficial trade and economic ties, strengthen cultural relations, and encourage greater people-to-people contacts. Once our two peoples experience the fruits of a tension-free and cooperative environment, we will be able to see the Kashmir issue in its proper dimension and arrive at an amicable and lasting solution. The prime minister also dwelt on the achievements and plans for the future of his multi-party coalition government that took power in 1998 and stormed back to power the next year again. He said his government was engaged in a Connectivity Revolution, which covered rail and air transport, the telecom sector, Internet and IT, the country's numerous rivers. I would, however, place a
[GOANET] Happy New Year from melba coelho
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[GOANET] NEWS: Goan to the Gulf -- there's no easy road either way
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- GOAN TO THE GULF: THERE'S NO EASY ROAD EITHER WAY By Frederick Noronha PANJIM, Dec 31: From the time they leave home, to getting education for their children, and catching a flights home (and even in times of the occasional case of shipping a dead body back) Goa's Gulf-based expats have to put up with a number of difficulties. (We have taken up these issues repeatedly in recent years) but not much could be achieved due to the frequent changes in the Government of Goa over the last several years, said Alex Wilson Coelho and Rabindra Pimenta, two Gulf-based expats who highlighted the emigrant community's woes here. Their appeal came during the recently-held Overseas' Goan Convention. A detailed listing of the Gulf Goans' grievances was put up by them on behalf of the Goan Welfare Society in Kuwait (www.goa-world.net/gws/) Some issues raised include: PROFESSIONAL SEATS: Access to seats for NRI Goans in professional colleges has long been sought. Domicile rules -- meant to protect the interest of locals -- seem to be cutting into the interest of those who migrate from Goa, a state with a high level of out-migration. Expats say they are willing to pay the higher fees for the same. In any case, they point out, some expat parents are paying high amounts for seats in nearby Karnataka, and would not mind coping with the more reasonable fees-structure for non-aided professional colleges in India itself. Ironically, engineering education in Goa has expanded vastly in recent years; and there are now three degree engineering colleges as against the earlier one. (Educators fear they would run short of students, even as an industrial group is planning to open another 600-seat engineering college -- admission on an all-India basis, with some 10% promised to Goans. But it is not clear whether there are domicile, and other roadblocks, which stop NRI Goan students from taking up such seats.) But the seats should be open to students passing out of the CBSE Board, they Gulf-based expats say. In addition, they point out that degrees of the Goa University are not being recognised by educational institutions in Kuwait and other Gulf countries. FLYING BACK: Expats also want that the Gulf-Goa route be thrown open to other airlines, apart from Indian-Airlines or Air-India, which have only a limited number of flights each week and are seen by them as charging passengers on this route exorbitant fees. Said the Goa Welfare Society memorandum, a copy of was made available here: A time has come when other airlines, such as Kuwait Airways, Gulf Air, Emirates Airlines, Oman Air, Qatar Airways, Saudi Arabian Airlines Airlines, etc, should be given the option to operate their flights directly to Goa. Expats voiced concern over the location of a new airport at Mopa, in an extreme corner of remote northern Goa's Pernem taluka. This, they said, was unfortunate as a majority of Goans in the Gulf hail from the south of Goa and quite a large hail from the central part of Goa, leaving those of the extreme north to a very small number. They argued that out of over 150,000 Goans living in the entire Gulf region -- Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Iraq and Iran -- some ninety percent come from south and central Goa. Needless to say, a huge number of Goans will be subjected to undue suffering if the present airport is shifted to Mopa. Dabolim airport has been servicing the needs of the entire population for several decades, and hence there is absolutely no need to shift the same to any other place, argues the petition. On the issue of transporting bodies of those who die abroad, the Goan Welfare Society pressed for the Goa government to provide free transportation of human remains through Air India and Indian Airlines. This should be done, they contended, in consideration of the economic growth of the state of Goa through the foreign remittances of savings of the Gulf Goans. FACILITIES SOUGHT: The Gulf-based expats asked the Goa government for an allocation of suitable land to build their own NRI City with full-fledged infrastructure without any hindrance to the Government of Goa. They sought a social security fund for those returning, a group life-insurance for NRI Goans, and better attempts to maintain detailed records of countrywide expat Goans scattered across the globe. This could be done through Indian missions abroad, they suggested. Also mooted was an NRI Goans Forum -- to deal with the needs of the tens of thousands settled abroad from this region that has been emigration-prone for many decades, if not centuries. For this purpose, a special cell needs be opened with some NRIs as its members, it was mooted. IMMIGRATION: Current immigration laws require 'immigration clearance' from all Indians who
Re: [GOANET] Currency rates...
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Dear Fred, Of the three missing abbreviations there is one (BRL) which I couldn't identify.The other two are MOP and SAR which stand for Macao Pataca and South African Rand respectively. But, since the coming in force of the European Union's common currency EURO on January 1, 2002, the currencies of the adhering countries do not exist any more and should therefore be scrapped from your list of currency rates. These currencies are: DEM (Germany), ESP (Spain), FRF (France), ITL (Italy), NLG (Netherlands) and PTE (Portugal). Regards, and A Happy New Year to you and all. Jorge - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Herman Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: [GOANET] Currency rates... This is the worth of the Indian rupee against international currencies as of today: AED (UAE) 13.056440; AUD (Australia) 27.056211; BHD (Bahrain) 127.201592; BRL 13.565771; CHF (Switzerland) 34.428171; DEM (Germany) 25.583127; DKK (Danmark) 6.738092; ESP (Spain) 0.300724; EUR (Euro) 50.036247; FRF (France) 7.627977; GBP (UK) 76.900638; IQD (Iraq) 153.899230; IRR (Iran) 0.006001; ITL (Italy) 0.025842; JOD (Jordan) 67.589852; JPY (Japan) 0.400945; KES (Kenya) 0.616785; KWD (Kuwait) 160.010010; MOP 6.001952; NLG (Netherlands) 22.705459; NOK (Norway) 6.865229; NZD (New Zealand) 24.998942; PKR (Pakistan) 0.824323; PTE (Portugal) 0.249580; QAR (Qatar) 13.172641; RUB (Russia) 1.502679; SAR 12.787318; SEK (Sweden) 5.456873; SGD (Singapore) 27.642956; TZS (Tanzania) 0.049387; USD$ 47.955000 - PS: Could someone help fill in the missing abbreviations? We at GoaNet need a volunteer to give regular updates on currency rates and other financial updates... FN WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [GOANET] NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [GOANET] NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora Hi Rosario I agree with Xac and Ivor, Goans are Goans and not Indians. Why Timorense are not Indonesian? Palestinian are not Israelites? And so on? Fortunately two years after I was born Goa became a part of India, and I am glad about it. If you are glad, it's good for you and it's doesn't mean everybody should be glad. People who is not glad also have the right to talk. Why go that far behind, recently Goa has also been ruled by our very own NON- paan spitting Indian, so why blame only the paan-spitting Indian ? Isn't that a fact ? Recently Goa has been ruled by Goan? You mean Goa was Independent country? I know 99% of Goans have crab mentality that's why Goan never will be successful ruling. Anyway I am proud to be Goan. We need people like Xac, Ivor, Agnelo Gomes, thiatrist Alex de Curtorim, A. Veronica et. etc Happy New Year. Mario Dias Fernandes Calgary, Alberta, Canada WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] Re: Hindutva is secularism, says Vajpayee
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vajpayee said: There is no difference between such Hindutva and 'Bharateeyata'(Indianness), since both are expressions of the same 'chintan'(thought). Both affirm that India belongs to all, and all belong to India. What a load of rubbish! This idea is no more sensible that defining Indianness as the state attained by a non-Goan paan chewer/spitter. Hindutva is a bankrupt ideology whose only purpose is to fool the religiously inclined masses and win elections. For any human being who practices Chintan or Chintatva, there is a world of difference between Hindutva and Indianness. India is a confluence of many cultures, tribes and belief systems. No single parochial concept can symbolize this diverse nation. All Indians, including those who believe that they are living under Indian occupation possess Indianness within them. They don't have to chew paan, refuse to drink feni, eat other people's money, live outside Goa (and outside the Gulf and the West), or think Hindutva to become Indian. Cheers and Happy New Year! Santosh WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] Re: GOA FOR GOANS FIRST!
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- To all our Goan comrades who share a vision of an independent GOA A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU AND TO YOUR FAMILIES. It is my sincere hope that in 2003 we can put together an adhoc committee that would spell out the aims for all Goans to know what it means when we vision a GOA FOR GOANS FIRST. This adhoc committee would do well to espouse our point to the Indian Government as to why it is very important that GOA be granted and be recognized as an AUTONOMOUS STATE within India. My Goan friends Xac, Agnelo Gomes, Alex de Curtorim, A. Veronica and many others who I know share our ideals for an autonomous GOA it would be a good idea for now to leave the defense and foreign policies under India. Once India does recognize the fact that A PEACEFUL AND INDEPENDENT GOA is in no a way a threat to them we can then formulate our own foreign policies and still live the defense portfolio to India. Let's make them feel a little important too by making them our body guards and security personnel. Mario Fernandes your recent posting is appreciated. To all of you have a happy and safe New Year 2003. Ivor (Samora) -Original Message- From: Mario Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [GOANET] NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora -- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [GOANET] NEWS: Goa still groping to find out size and diaspora Hi Rosario I agree with Xac and Ivor, Goans are Goans and not Indians. Why Timorense are not Indonesian? Palestinian are not Israelites? And so on? Fortunately two years after I was born Goa became a part of India, and I am glad about it. If you are glad, it's good for you and it's doesn't mean everybody should be glad. People who is not glad also have the right to talk. Why go that far behind, recently Goa has also been ruled by our very own NON- paan spitting Indian, so why blame only the paan-spitting Indian ? Isn't that a fact ? Recently Goa has been ruled by Goan? You mean Goa was Independent country? I know 99% of Goans have crab mentality that's why Goan never will be successful ruling. Anyway I am proud to be Goan. We need people like Xac, Ivor, Agnelo Gomes, thiatrist Alex de Curtorim, A. Veronica et. etc Happy New Year. Mario Dias Fernandes Calgary, Alberta, Canada WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] Thanks
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Goenkars , As we come to the end of this Year , let us take some time from our busy life , take time to thank our Goan brothersand sisters for their efforts in making our Goan world a better place to be in. Let us also take some time to look forward to the coming year , 2003. To begin with , let me thank all those who helped to make this Goan Forum , the Goanet ,what it is TODAY. Lets thank each and every one one on the Goanet admin team , ( Herman , Viviana and Fred ) thanks to their efforts and their strict maintainance of discipline on this forum that it is what it is today - Its RESPECT that we have learnt respect for one another that has brought more respect into our Goan Communities all over the world , but there is still more work to be done. I am proud to be a part of this Goan Forum. Thanks to Eddie Fernandes , Eddie introduced me to this Forum in 1995 ? and I have been with the forum since then , through all its ups and downs ! and I have , I hope contributed towards its progress in some way ? Let us not forget that behind every successful man there is a woman , and the woman behind Eddie s success is no other than Lira .Thank you both. The launch of the Goan Voice is another great service Eddie and Lira have given us on this net. Fred Noronha is one who has e- mail addresses in almost all the e-groups I know of . Thank you fred for your contribution to the Goanet and also to other nets too. George Pinto is another Goan who has made it HAPPEN for the less fortunate in Goa .He is one Goan who has supported theWorld Goa Day irrespective of the happenings. Thank YoU George for believing in us. Thanks to Gaspar and Ully for their initial support on the idea of World Goa Day , without their support I am not too sure WORLD GOA DAY would be the success it is today. I look forward to their support in the future., their support for a better GOAN WORLD. We should not forget Goans like Darryl ( Who belives in Action rather than words) He has done much for our Goan schools, Goan Communities and far beyond. What would we do without our man in Goa - Joel , I am sure many of us wait for our early morning breaking news from Goa. Thank you Joel . Thanks to Goa Desc for their Community work , Thanks to the many other Goan NGO s not heard of nor even seen. To all those who helped to make WORLD GOA DAY a success , I d like to say a BIG thank you. I am looking forward to the support of many more Goans and Goan organistions this year. I am very pleased to infrom you all that The Goan Voice UK , Canada and USA have expressed their support for WORLD GOA DAY 2003 , and I take this opportunity of thanking these Voices Thanks to all those who partcipated in the last WGD - I am sorry I cannot name indvidual org.as space will not permit to do so , but I will have the full list of participants etc displayed on the web page at GOA Sudharop as soon as I get some volunteers to help me design the web page at Goa Sudharop. * Any volunteers ? As some of you may be aware , the Coordinators of the WGD 2003 have decided to dedicate the year 2003 as the year of GIVING Giving something back to Goa and the Goan Community at large. I am sure George Pinto will write more on the theme of *Giving * something back very soon. Another subject of great interest to many of the Young Goans worldwide and to Eddie D Sa is the question of of our GOAN YOUTH and Goan Identity. What do we plan to do ? Lets us ask OURSELVES , not others Thank you members of this forum , thank you for being so tolerant to all our postings whic have been made from time to time. all i can say is Thank you. LET me take this opportunity to say A HAPPY NEW YEAR 2003 to one and all ... Goenkars , wherever you may be , Goenkars you will alway be. VIVA GOA ! rene barreto MAKING it HAPPEN. Pardon my english , i try and write in plain english , but many still find it hard to understand - ) : WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [GOANET] Thanks
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Rene - thank you so much for the lovely sentiments expressed by you. Ariosto joins me in wishing you, and all GoaNetters, a Happy New Year. Viviana San francisco CA renebarreto wrote: Goenkars , As we come to the end of this Year , let us take some time from our busy life , take time to thank our Goan brothersand sisters for their efforts in making our Goan world a better place to be in. WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] Foreign exchange... Central grants...
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Without getting caught into the debate below, I'd like to point to some inconsistencies in arguments put forward: * Foreign exchange earnings are a notional concept. If Goa earns foreign which goes to New Delhi, it does not necessarily mean that Goa is/was being bled by the latter. After all, foreign exchange only allows one to decide priorities on what such (once-scarce) foreign-currency resources should be used for, internationally. It is not the equivalent of actual earnings. Take the case of mining -- it brought in a lot of 'foreign exchange' for Goa, which then went to Delhi's common kitty. This does not mean that the money itself was taken away -- it stayed in the pockets of private mine-owners in Goa. Only that, the Yen, D-Mark, Dollars or whatever went to Delhi, and the private mineowners got rupees instead. (The environment got nothing..., but that is another matter completely being overlooked by this emotive debate. Whether mining-workers gained or lost, and whether local communities paid the price by way of increased TB, etc is an issue that neither side of the 1961-gap seems to be focussing on... From a Goa perspective, these are critical issues.) Same is the case with tourism or expat remittances (while the positive benefits of this is clear, there are arguable also some negative fallouts -- the dependency syndrome, inflation... probably one of the factors in making Goa one of the costliest states in India). * There are other issues which need to be better understood. Understanding shrouded-in-mystery state finances are a complex affair. Just because the Centre repeatedly pointed to the grants it gave Goa, does not mean that it was actually subsidising the existance of post-1961 Goa. Colonial Portugal too made similar claims (that retaining Goa was costing them money), but fought tooth-and-nail to stay on. What about the fact that the decision to have an over-bloated bureaucracy seems to have got the political support from governments both at Delhi and Goa? Or that political corruption has been tolerated for long years? Or the reality that even under colonial rule, Goa's per capita income (of course, a misleading figure in itself) was significantly higher than that of neighbouring states or of most other regions? Today, Goa is staying afloat economically with a hugh debt burden. Liquor is also a major source of revenue for the government. A closer study of how-the-rupee-comes and how-the-rupee-goes from the state exchequer (assuming this reflects a realistic picture) would give a deeper insight. Once we decide which side of the debate we are on, it's convenient perhaps to find suitable arguments to back our stand. But these are not necessarily an accurate reflection of reality. Terms like 'invasion' and even 'Liberation' tend to have emotive overtones. Perhaps the question we need to be asking is how Portuguese colonialism and post-1961 change have affected Goa and her people (not just *us*, but all sections). It's not as one-sided as made out to be. This is a complex, yet-to-be-understood balance sheet that needs to be drawn up. This is a difficult task; not simply because different segments got affected in disparate ways, but they also *feel* and *believe* that they got affected in diverse ways. Other viewpoints/corrections to the above welcome. FN --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa has certainly been one of the big contributors to India's Foreign Exchange, due to a lot of remittances from overseas. However, there are a lot of misconceptions about the revenue generation from Goa and its industries. In the 80s when Goa was on the verge of getting a statehood, the biggest problem for the Central Government was to see how Goa could survive by generating its own revenue. I had met the Dy. Director of Accounts just before Goa's statehood and he told me that of the entire Goan budget of 100 crores, 80 crores used to come from the Centre! 80% of the money had to come from Delhi, because Goa did not have the infrastructure to generate such revenues! This high percentage of funds allocation to Goa, was by virtue of its being a Union Territory! I know that at the time of granting the Statehood, some arrangement was worked out to provide Goa with the necessary cash. I do not know what the present arrangements are between the Centre and the Goa Government. But, it would be wrong to infer that Goa is being ripped off by the rest of India! WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GOANET] 01 JAN: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS January 01, 2003 We wish all Netters A Very Happy, Peaceful Prosperous NEW YEAR 2003. VAJPAYEE ATTACKS HINDUTVA CHAMPIONS: Targeting narrow-minded Hindutva champions, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee on December 31 deprecated projection of the concept of 'some people in a narrow, rigid and extremist manner' and said it brooked no ill will, hatred or violence among communities on any ground. In his Musings from Goa on the New Year eve, Vajpayee said that Hinduism's acceptance of diversity of faiths was the central feature of secularism, and that it was also 'incorrect and untenable' that secularism was being pitted against Hindutva in the belief that the two were antithetical to each other. (GT) PM EXTENDS STAY: Prime Minister Vajpayee will spend the New Year day in Goa. His four-day vacation in the State has been extended by a day and he is likely to leave only on 2 January. The Prime Minister has extended New Year wishes to the people of India. (GT) FRENZIED CELEBRATIONS: Traditional dances, parties, midnight Church services and dazzling fire-work displays marked the ushering in of the New Year, which were joined in by country's top VVIPs and thousands of tourists. The coastal belt was resounding with music till the week hours of the day. With thousands of domestic tourists descending on Goa, party euphoria was created on Monday itself and revelry mood was visible in places like Miramar, 18th June Road, etc. In Anjuna, feeling the police presence as a sort of irritant, pack-packers moved northwards to Morjim-Mandrem, Arambol. Apparently, Arambol is going the Palolem way. (H) RS.20 LAKH FOR ECO TOURISM: Forest Minister Vinay Tendulkar told reporters on December 31 that the department had asked for Rs.1 crore so as to provide better infrastructure in the eco-touristically important belts of Dudhsagar, Bondla, Tambdi Surla, Mahavir Wildlife Sanctuary, etc. He said that the State government has sanctioned the first installment of Rs.20 lakh to take up infrastructure development works. (GT) YEAR 2002: As 2002 slips into the sepia pages of history and a new year brings with it fresh hope, few can resist the temptation to dwell, however briefly, on the year that wasa potpourri of disasters, murders and controversies and little to cheer about. (GT) VAN INJURES MAN: Satyawan Rama Gaonkar of Veroda-Cuncolim suffered head injury when he was knocked down by a speeding Maruti Van, driven by Clive Fernandes of Fatorpa, near Pazorconi, Cuncolim bus stop. (GT) GAMBLING AT SIOLIM ZAGOR: Gambling appears to be in full swing in zatras, which dot several villages in Goa, this time of the year. Eyewitnesses at the Siolim zagor (local dance-drama) informed that at least 40 stalls were dealing with godgoddo, a gambling form, which uses dice. Around 70 stalls also dealt with Andar-Bahar, a form of card gamblingÂ…despite the presence of police personnel. (H) TEACHER EXCHANGE TO ENGLAND: GONAS in collaboration with Nirmala Institute of Education, Panaji, will be selecting teachers for an exchange programme to the North East of England in May 2003. Details at http://www.goans.org. (GT) MHADEI ISSUE: Mhadei Bachao Abhiyan secretary, Rajendra Kerkar, appealed to the government to be vigilant about the evil designs of its counterpart in Karnataka over the issue of diversion of Mhadei waters. (GT) CHARGE-SHEET AGAINST THREE BSNL OFFICERS: The Goa office of Central Bureau of Investigation has filed a charge-sheet against three Goa based officials attached to the customer service centre of Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd in Mapusa, for misappropriation of a sum amounting to Rs.1 lakh and forgery. The officials are HK Shirole, KR Naik and PR Khot. (NT) PAINTS AGAINST SANCHAYANI: The Economic Offences Wing, Panaji, has so far received about 50 complaints from depositors against the Sanchayani Savings Investment Limited. The EOW has recorded the statements of about 40 investors, who had invested more than Rs.25,000. (GT) ETHANOL-BLENDED PETROL: Union Minister for Petroleum and Natural Gas, Ram Naik, will mark the New Year 2003 with the national launch of eco-friendly ethanol-blended petrol christened Gasohol in Mumbai on January 1. Mandatory blending of 5 per cent of ethanol with petrol will come into effecting in nine-sugarcane-producing states including Goa with effect from today. (H) HOTMIXING OF ROADS: The work of renewing of carpet by laying hot mix from Panaji to Agassaim, Agassaim to Verna, Tambose to Patradevi, either side of Mandovi bridges, Old Ribandar Hospital to Diwar Ferry, will be taken up from February 2003. (NT) RIBANDAR DEMANDS P'YAT STATUS: A meeting of Ribandar citizens held on December 29 demanded that government take
