RE: [GOANET] Teaching Konkani in Canada
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Congratulations Tim!!! This a new start in the New Year 2003. Goanetter from Canada like Mr. Silviano Barbosa (GoaRaj) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is more than capable of taking such challenge. May be easiest way to meet Mr. Silviano Barbosa is to look out for a car in Toronto with the registration no: GOA RAJ. Best wishes and good luck to Canadian Goans Cip Fernandes UK -Original Message- Tim de Mello wrote on 11 January 2003 17:17 Is there anyone in the GTA prepared to teach Konkani? Could you please contact me so that we can discuss this? Please e-mail me privately in the first instance. Deu borem korum. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ontario, CANADA
RE: [GOANET] NEWS: NRI project seeks to save rural India
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- I am willing to sponsor my village Arpora, Bardez, Goa with $2000.00. Will appreciate to know other Goans who are willing to sponsor their villages, even with amount less than $2000 please I will much appreciate if any Goanetter could forward me Vidya Nand Singh's email to support him with this NRI project. I believe together we can do it! Cip Fernandes UK -- NRI project seeks to save rural India By Deepshikha Ghosh, Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, Jan 12 (IANS) If each person of Indian origin across the globe were to contribute $2,000 each, it could bring health care, education and jobs to all villages of India. This may sound quixotic, but it won't be if a project proposed by a U.S.-based non-resident Indian, Vidya Nand Singh, hits the road. Singh, a businessman and philanthropist who migrated to the U.S. five decades ago, has submitted what he calls a common sense economic model for NRI funding in rural India's upliftment. My proposal involves rural development across India over a period of five years with a budget of $40 billion, Singh told IANS in an interview. He has calculated the damage to each NRI pocket - taking some 20 million Indians spread the world over - to be $2,000. That is nothing compared to what they earn and the millions of dollars they have lost in the stock market, he reasoned. He proposes the establishment of an NRI investment and development bank along with a team of Indian entrepreneurs to execute the project. Singh's proposal, circulated among prominent resident and non-resident Indian industrialists as well as chambers of commerce at a diaspora meet that ended here Saturday, envisages providing primary health care, basic education and employment to about 240,000 block panchayats, or rural districts, of India. And he wants the government to be a helpful bystander. The government should remain out of such development projects and limit itself to functions only a government can perform, such as providing law and order and facilitating permits. Singh, 65, president of the Bihar Chamber of Commerce in America and the founder chairman of the first Liberty National Bank in Washington, is a native of Bihar and is involved in various social development projects in India. But his rural development model, inspired by China, is the first of national scale. He refuses to be daunted by scepticism and plain cynicism. As a first generation NRI based in the U.S., I know that many of us are self-sufficient and well protected by the social security system. We can afford to give back to our motherland without being burdened by the corruption and stagnation that India suffers from. He points out that over 70 percent Indians live in villages, and 32 percent of these people fall below the poverty line, meaning they earn less than one dollar a day and cannot afford two square meals. The project draws upon the link between health, education, employment, quality of life and human dignity. It estimates that $7.5 billion can be allocated in setting rural industries that will eliminate the problems of almost all people below poverty line in rural India. Around 22 billion dollars would be provided for primary education for age six to 11 in each Panchayat - or village council area. And $10 billion for 120,000 health centres catering to every two Panchayats. Said Singh: Basic health care can do away with causes of death such as snakebites, diarrhoea, dehydration, injuries, childbirth. A good primary education is critical to involve one and all in globalisation and prevent exploitation. His model relies heavily on private enterprise. All these five year plans have not and cannot achieve anything. The government should only be a facilitator and stay away from developmental projects that have become a breeding ground for corruption. Singh says the $40 billion could be raised through 400 million shares at the unit price of $100. Twenty million NRIs can fund this programme by purchasing only 20 shares per person. He banishes fears that the project is too simplistic to work. I am asked if it was possible, then why didn't it happen till now? My answer is that many complex problems have simple solutions that miss us. We have to search our soul to see why. --Indo-Asian News Service
[GOANET] Request for Information from NRI Goa Facilitation Centre - URGENT
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- URGENT To Mr. Chandrakant Keni President NRI Goa Facilitation Centre Goa Date: 12th January 2003 Dear Mr. Keni I am pleased to know that the Government of Goa has created the 'NRI Goa Facilitation Centre' and appointed yourself as the President of the Centre. Many thanks for your continuous efforts and of Advocate Aries Rodrigues. As you are aware, recently the Government of India has announced 'Dual Citizenship' for PIO from USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. You may be also aware that there are thousands of PIO of Goan origin in these six countries, who are waiting patiently to know the official procedure for claiming their Indian citizenship as early as possible. I have every confidence that you and your team will do the needful, obtain the correct information from the Central Government and post the procedure on Goanet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and update your website. I believe Goa should do as good as other Indian States, if not better. If there is need to take this matter with the Chief Minister of Goa and MPs in order to expedite this matter then do not hesitate to contact me please. Looking forward for your early reply please Kind regards and best wishes, Cip Fernandes London UK
RE: [GOANET] Place names...
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Kolngutey and Mhapshyanh I cannot write Konkani either in 'Roman script' or 'Devnagri script'. However, I have few Konknni writers in Roman script including Fr. Antonio Pereira SJ who does not use Roman Alphabet 'y' in his Konknni books. However, this can be clarified from ex-president of KBM bhaii Mr. Damodar Mauzo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, the need of 21st Century for writing Konkani in Romi script is due to internet communication (not that Devnagri cannot be used) like goanet. After living away from Goa over a decade I am forgetting Konkani, the language of our land Goa, perhaps due to my young age :-). Some Goanetters may feel that the Konknni script issue is settled long back in Goa, India politically and culturally. However, time has come for overseas Goans, particularly at this time of dual citizenship for PIO not to forget Konkani but to learn and promote it (perhaps we could include in our New Year's resolution). And, in order to achieve this, the Romi Konknni script is very important for overseas Goans both, now and in future. I am neither raising this (Konknni script) issue again nor I am a non-starter on script issue. The need of written communication in Konkani over internet in Roman script is the need of the 21st century perhaps born along with the offer of 'dual citizenship for PIO'. BTW, I am longing to speak in Konkani as well as to eat the Goan spicy xacutti. Cip Fernandes -Original Message- Of Sunila Muzawar wrote on January 2003 07:53 Hi Fred, Fred, I warn you that I have taken this issue up very seriously and you will have to reckon with my indepth knowledge of konknii and Goa. :-) I am inclined to insist that Calangute should be Kolngutey and not Congutti. The l which in Konknii is a pretty deeply pronounced consonant and should be probably written as ll...a double l is not pronounced properly by a section of Goans. In fact they leave it out altogether. The same with deull or temple. Many Goans (mostly the Christian and also the Hindi speaking people from the rest of India) leave out the deep l and replace it with a light l sound or even a d sound. So they say deudann instead of deullann and so on. Now the reason for the deep l not being pronounced is due to the Portuguese influence or Hindi influence which does not have this phonetic. That does not mean Konknii does not have it. It does and we should get it right. As far as the others go, the Konknii pronouciation of what we now write as Mapusa definitely has a more ha sound after the M and a nasal n sound at the end. So I still vote for Mhapshyanhalthough I don't mind changing it to Mhapsheanh.in fact maybe that is more correct. And although I agree with the general spelling for Margao that you have given I still cannot accept the O in it because the O is pronounced almost silently here and in all probability should be written as Madganv. And Goyan is better for Goa while Goen could also be considered. The whole problem is some idiot who knew more Portuguese than English wrote out the English spellings to names of places in Goa. That's why they wrote Panjim where they expected the m to be silent. But that's not the way English would pronounce it. And now we are left with a foreign sounding capital name which no real Goan ever uses expect when he/she converses in English. This is fun. It is also quite hilarious to see the various inputs to this debate. The problem is that the expat-imagine Goa is quite a different animal from what is the current ruling ideology in Goa itself. I agree that Goa means different things to different people. And that's okay. But that is also why many people of Goan origin no longer fit in Goa when they return to Goa after being away for long, abroad. E.g. we have a miniscule portion of the expats on this forum who have hardly even gone to Goa more than a few times in the last twenty years, who happen to think that they know it all. But talking down is a habit many people cultivate when they live a few years abroad and go back east to try to impress on how much they have achieved. Unfortunately, they do let out that they did not achieve even basic courtesy which true Goans have in plenty. Talk to a true native Goan - the gaudo - and see the indepth strength of character and quiet courtesy and respectfulness, not to mention the warmth of heart that they have despite maybe a lack of high education and riches. Somehow, when one goes abroad we mostly see the folks return as brash and loud individuals who think they are God's gift to mankind. The truth is they do not belong anywhere then, neither in the west where they will always be regarded as hailing from India (or Pakistan for that matter) despite the western nation citizenships or green cards which
[GOANET] Alban Couto to be appointed advisor to Goa Govt
-- Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/ -- Alban Couto to be appointed advisor to govt PANJIM, JAN 3 Retired IAS officer, Mr Alban Couto will soon be appointed as the advisor to the Government of Goa. The decision to this effect was taken by the Goa cabinet last month though this was not announced during the post-cabinet briefing. The nature of the work Mr Couto will handle, is yet to be decided, sources said. The order formally appointing Mr Couto as the advisor will be issued later this month. Mr Couto meanwhile, has been relieved of the charge as one of the members of the managing committee of Mapusa Urban Co-operative Bank. It may be recalled that Mr Couto had tendered his resignation from the post last month to the Chief Minister reportedly due to differences over managing the affairs of the bank.
RE: [Goanet] Skepticism regarding the new miracle - More information
-- What's On In Goa: * Oct 11: Konkani translation of Satre book, Alliance Francaise * Oct 12: Goa Orchestra performs at the Kala (Corelli, Bach) * Oct 15: Magic in town... Illusion India magic show, Pnj then Vasco * Mid-Oct: 2-day ornithologists workshop, Bondla southernbirdwing.com -- Scientific evidence may be required for science and for scientists. There is no dispute on this matter whatsoever. However, there are many things in life and in the universe that there could be NO scientific evidence or beyond the capability of people dominated by scientific minded (individual or collectively) to understand. Perhaps, to understand a miracle one needs to go beyond scientific mind. One thing is sure: a person who is dominated by his/her scientific mind is NOT capable to understand what is going in this universe beyond his/her scientific mind. ps. I have tried various techniques on my mother, such as arm twisting, choking, turning crosses upside down etc so that she sees the light. Unfortunately I have not been very successful. Any other suggestions? Here is a suggestion. You may try above mentioned techniques on yourself, perhaps, there may be a Miracle! -Original Message- Marlon Menezes wrote on 08 October 2002 03:03 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Skepticism regarding the new miracle - More information I wonder if this miracles business is unique to the goan psyche. My mother and some of her religious friends are firm believers in miracles. As a kid, I remember them being thrilled after one of their patients who had cancer was miraclously cured. Unfortunately for them, this person died a few months later. Another relative of mine broke her ankle walking down a flight of stairs. Numerous visits to the doctors never did get her foot fixed right. She then went to this place called Pota (not too sure about the spelling) and claimed that she was healed there. A few months later she fell again and the injury was several times worse than before. Several years on, she still walks with a limp. Hmm, I need to ask her why she never went back to Pota. When a so called miracle happens, it is used as proof of the power of god, prayers etc. When a miracle does not happen, it is attributed to god's ways being mysterious and that what has happened is for the best. Another thing with goan catholics - whats' their obsession with idols, oops, I mean, statues? One finds these statues (as well as the standard picture of mary and jesus) in almost every room of the house. When ever I go home, I make it a point to turn around all the statues so that they face the wall so that they can have some privacy as they relieve themselves. Marlon ps. I have tried various techniques on my mother, such as arm twisting, choking, turning crosses upside down etc so that she sees the light. Unfortunately I have not been very successful. Any other suggestions? -- Original Message -- From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:31:00 - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], J. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who wish to discuss this further, please find someone else. There has been no new information. I am not interested. Sorry. Here is some new information. This is of course for people who are interested in knowing the truth, and especially for those who base their views on scientific evidence. Cheers, Santosh TERESA 'MIRACLE' UNDER SCANNER Times News Network [ Friday, October 04, 2002 12:10:18 AM] SILIGURI: Doctors here are upset at reports about the alleged miraculous cure by the 'heavenly touch' of Mother Teresa. Cardinals in the Vatican this week accepted the 'miracle' performed by Mother Teresa when she cured an 'incurable' Monica Besra (32). To view GoaNet's archives http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net For (un)subscribing or for help, contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't want so many e-mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead!
[Goanet] All I need is Love
POP legend Paul McCartney wed former model Heather Mills at an Irish castle on Tuesday in a sumptuous affair that included fireworks, feasting, friends and celebrities. Wedding bells pealed shortly after 5 p.m. (1600 GMT) signalling that the ex-Beatle and his bride had tied the knot. Intermittent rain was the only negative factor as celebrities and family members gathered for the wedding in a lavish lakeside ceremony at 17th century Castle Leslie in the Irish border county of Monaghan. The wedding ceremony itself took place at St Salvator's church, within the grounds of the 1,000-acre estate. The band which has been touring with McCartney in the United States was due to play and there were rumours McCartney and Mills might well take a boat out on to the castle's private lake to view a mammoth fireworks display. Women in Indian costume were seen heading to the castle grounds and were expected to dance or serve a vegetarian feast, which would be accompanied by crates of champagne and washed down with 150 kegs of Ireland's celebrated black Guinness stout. Among the celebrities was former Beatles drummer Ringo Starr, dressed in a frilly white shirt and jeans, who flew into Belfast airport and was chauffeured to the castle. Chrissie Hynde of rock group the Pretenders, 1960s fashion icon Twiggy and former Beatles manager Sir George Martin were also among the 300 guests as were guitarist Eric Clapton and pop veteran Sir Elton John. Despite the star-studded guest list, McCartney had stressed that the wedding would be first and foremost a family occasion. The sleepy village of Glaslough, where Castle Leslie is located, has never seen anything like it, and activity had reached fever-pitch, with Ireland's World Cup victory against Saudi Arabia adding to the excitement. It's hectic -- good for business, though, said food van owner Brendan McKenna, whose Big Macca burgers were selling for three euros ($2.84) each. McCartney's spokesman Geoff Baker said it was possible that McCartney could take to the stage himself. You never know. We've got Macca (McCartney), Ringo and guests like Pink Floyd guitarist Dave Gilmour -- who knows what could happen, he said. The evening was due to culminate in a fireworks display, which a team of experts flew in several days ago to set up. There were reports that the couple would then be whisked away by helicopter to a secret location to begin their honeymoon. __ Thought for Today I am convinced that my life belongs to the whole community; and as long as I live, it is my privilege to do for it whatever I can, for the harder I work the more I live. George Bernard Shaw =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] From Goanet Admin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lawrie D'souza wrote on 09 June 2002 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] From Goanet Admin Wonder if Goanet will continue for a longtime with such attitude against it subscribers. Goanet is an Entity and not a person to have attitudes against Subscribers. However, Goanet Administration Team changes from time to time, perhaps due for a change. Moreover, the current Goanet Admin Team is honest and very responsible team having accountability towards the money what they collect from advertisement and may be from other sources. In my opinion 'Goanet Admin Team' will not hesitate to publish the account what they have collected and spent so far, if any Goanetter is interested. Cip Fernandes =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] British boxer Lennox Lewis stuns Tyson for famous win
Lewis had Tyson in trouble throughout the fight Lennox Lewis recorded a superb victory over Mike Tyson to retain his world heavyweight boxing crown in Memphis on Saturday. The British fighter won their long-awaited title bout with a stoppage in round eight. Lewis produced his best form to see off the former champion and in doing so confirmed his status as one of the great modern heavyweights. Lewis' mother Violet congratulates the champion He finished the contest two minutes and 25 seconds into the eighth with a withering right hook that put Tyson flat on his back. Fears that the fight could descend into the kind of ugly scenes that have dogged Tyson's career proved unfounded. Instead the event provided a timely boost for a beleaguered sport, with the boxers trading compliments after an enthralling and sporting contest. The victory ranks as arguably the finest moment in Lewis' long career. And it will go a long way to silencing his critics - particularly in the US, where the 36-year-old has sometimes struggled for recognition. This completed my legacy, Lewis proclaimed immediately after his win. I wanted to prove I was the best boxer in the world, on the planet. Nobody gets away from my jab. Tyson could only manage occasional glimpses of the ferocious power that made him a boxing legend in the late 1980s and early '90s. Lewis was on top throughout the fight and, after being docked a point for pushing Tyson to the canvas at the end of round four, he then twice floored the challenger in the eighth. First he landed with a left uppercut and, although Tyson survived the first count, Lewis finished the job with a huge right. Tyson, condemned in many quarters for his behaviour in and out of the ring, was magnanimous in defeat. I have love and respect for Lennox, Tyson said. He's a magnificent fighter - and I'd love for him to give me another shot (at the title). Lewis paid tribute to Tyson's ability to withstand intense pressure for so long. Some of those punches I hit him with on the right-hand side, he took them like a man - I was shocked he was able to take them. It was the first time the two boxers, who have dominated the division in recent years, had met in the ring - but the fight nearly never happened. Tyson had his boxing licence revoked by the Nevada State Commission after he sparked a brawl at a news conference. Memphis was later chosen as an alternative venue. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] BBC E-mail: Pakistan spurns joint patrol plan
C Fernandes saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you should see it. Message: Pakistan spurns joint patrol plan *Pakistan spurns joint patrol plan* http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_2026000/2026954.stm Pakistan rejects an offer to work with India on the Kashmir border prompting an Indian response that it is not serious about peace. BBC Daily E-mail Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/dailyemail/ Disclaimer: The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything said in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views. If you don't wish to receive such mails in the future, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] making sure you include the following text: I do not want to receive E-mail a friend mailings. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet == For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Goa Assembly Election Result
Election Result as show on http://www.goanews.com/ RESULTS IN DETAIL IT'S HUNG ONCE AGAIN BJP- 16, Cong- 16, UGDP- 3, NCP- 1, MGP-2, Ind - 1 Madkaikar (MGP) wins Cumbarjua, Nirmala out Rane (Cong) wins Poriem Victoria (Cong) finally wins St Cruz by 40 in recount Isidore (Cong) retains Poingunim With 5 left, Parrikar says he is confident of forming Govt., but sitting with fingers crossed, awaiting final results Subhash (Cong) back from Shiroda Vijay for Vijay (BJP) in Canacona, Bandekar out Narvekar (Cong) back from Aldona, defeating Dy Sp. Dr Amonkar (BJP) retains Pale Mathany (UGDP) triumphs in Cortalim, Mauvin out Kavlekar (Cong) defeats Velip (BJP) in Quepem Dhawalikar (MGP) retains Marcaim Dr Willy wins Saligao, NCP opens account Zantye (Cong) comes back from Mayem, Phadte out Recount in St Cruz as Victoria leads by 40, against BJP Silveira (Cong) retains St. Andre Agnelo (Cong) wins Calangute, defeats Parulekar (BJP) Ramarao (BJP) retains Curchorem Patnekar (BJP) wins Bicholim Digambar (BJP) retains Margao Arlekar (BJP) wins Vasco Vishwas (BJP) retains Priol Vasudev (BJP) wins Sanguem Mandrekar (BJP) retains Siolim Azgaonkar (BJP) retains Dhargalim Joaquim Alemao (Cong) wins Cuncolim Francis (BJP) retains Mapusa Luizinho (Cong) retains Navelim Tendulkar (BJP) retains Sanvordem Jitendra Deshprabhu (Cong) retains Pernem Babush (UGDP) wins in Taleigao, defeating Zuwarkar Philip Neri (Ind) retains Velim Damu (BJP) wins in Fatorda, defeating Cardoz (Cong) Karl Vaz (Cong) wins in Mormugao, defeating Shaikh Churchill (Cong) defeated, Micky (UGDP) wins Ravi (Cong) retains Ponda, defeats Shripad (BJP) Sadanand Shet (BJP) wins in Tivim CM Parrikar (BJP)wins, defeating Cong Parsekar (BJP) wins, Khalap (Cong) defeated - Mandrem Alex Sequeira (Cong) retains Loutolim Sardinha (Cong) retains Curtorim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] ONE GOA
Hi Aloysius, I think that you are right. I do not think that Goans do not need any more discussion group. Perhaps, this type of discussion group starts for egoistic reasons. Also, cross postings creates another type of problems. I would appreciate if someone start some innovative ideas to share correct information on Goa and Goan important matters which can help Goans. Regards, Cip London -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aloysius D'Souza Sent: 30 May 2002 13:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The Goan Forum; Goanet Subject: [Goanet] ONE GOA Hi Peter, We already have so many Goan discussion groups on the internet -- do we really need one more? Aloysius D'Souza =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] Cip's Mother Teresa quote
Joel, I believe that the below mentioned Mother Teresa's words are more than a quote. She has practiced before she preached. One of the writer on Mother Teresa said Mother Teresa did not say or write any 'word' which she did not mean I believe Mother Teresa manifested the universal LOVE with her open mind and her open heart to all human beings, beyond the limits of a normal human being. I wonder if Mother Teresa had any 'Scientific Methods' to achieve what she has achieved during her life time? Did Mother Teresa moved beyond her organised religion? Who and what stop us to move beyond any organised religion, in which we are born or chose by us? Regards, Cip _ Joel Almeida wrote on 22 May 2002 16:34 Subject: [Goanet] Cip's Mother Teresa quote Cip Fernandes wrote: If You PRAY, You will have FAITH, And if You have FAITH, You will LOVE, And if You LOVE, You will SERVE, And if You SERVE, You will have PEACE. -Mother Teresa Thanks, Cip. I don't think I have read better practical advice for living. Hopefully I can learn from such advice. Off for a few days now (everyone bring out the feni and celebrate). Joel Almeida =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
Why we should NOT think as 'Human Beings' rather than GOANS? Cip Fernandes UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rene barreto Sent: 22 May 2002 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! A message from William - I d like to share - as we are on the subject of RELIGION . and message to all Goans. We should all think GOAN rather than RELIGION. Lets not make GOA another Gujarat .we may if we are not too careful. rene - Original Message - From: William Robert Da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:47 AM message - WORLD GOADAY 2002 Goa World Day 2002 comes after 9-11 and 10.7 two fundamentalisms at war with each other. Goa World Day needs to focus on Goa and what is happening to it--the various political, religious and cultural forces that enrich it, exploit it and fragment it. This is the right time to think over what shape is Goa of the future? Thinking of Goa World Day is Think about Goa in 2002. William - Original Message - From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. Cheers, Sunila =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc
I wonder if Sunila, James and Santosh ever PRAY? If You PRAY, You will have FAITH, And if You have FAITH, You will LOVE, And if You LOVE, You will SERVE, And if You SERVE, You will have PEACE. -Mother Teresa The following are my views on FAITH, BELIEFS, SPIRITUALITY and SCIENTIFIC METHODS: Whatever we do in life, we SERVE people directly or indirectly. We can SERVE people with science and technology with or without knowing much about spirituality or humanity. In the technology and scientific world we accept only approved scientific methods to measure, quantify, compare the results of any process. We can also SERVE people directly much better with combination of our HEART, INTELLECT, MIND and SOUL with the help of modern SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY. Vedas (written in Sanskrit about 1500 B.C.) gives us this knowledge (of HEART, INTELLECT, MIND, SOUL, etc) to KNOW and to SERVE fellow human beings, other creatures and the Universe. English language has a limit to understand Vedas (English version). Sanskrit is the spiritual language in which one can understand Vedas perfectly. Whoever wants to gain this knowledge from the Vedas can gain tremendous energy for the self-development and to SERVE the humanity. Although Science and Technology is the key factor for the world economy, however, it is a very small factor to SERVE humanity. Sorry, I may not have any scientific methods to prove this statement but it is my experience beyond any doubt. Cip Fernandes London __ Sunila Muzawar wrote on 21 May 2002 09:39 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc From: santoshhelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:42:20 - Romain Rolland got a Nobel prize in literature. He was not a scientist. As far as I know, he said nothing about the Vedas and the speed of light. He would not have been qualified to say anything about the scientific validity of the Vedas. Please don't try to confuse issues here. By the way, he was a great supporter of scientific rationalism. I read his name a long time ago in connection with something he said on the Vedas. I will try and dig it up and if I do I will let you know. But you know everything you have said about him reinforces my memory that it was him only that I had read about in connection with the Vedas. After all science and literature and the Vedas can be a heady combination. ;-) Let me ask you have you ever read the Vedas ? Do you know Sanskrit ? No for both questions. Have you, and Do you? If you have and do, Please enlighten us in English or Konkani. I am particularly interested in the speed of light issue. Actually I haven't read the Vedas and I don't know Sanskrit. But would love to know more. If nothing else, it would give me an insight into Indian history. But one of the reasons I asked is to show you how illogical your approach is. Just because you haven't read it and don't know more about it does not mean it does not exist. :-) Intuition, gut feeling, sixth sense and whatever else you may call it does exist but unfortunately science lacks in being able to prove it. Are you sure? Have you read the current scientific literature on these matters? I know there is a lot of published research that deals with this. I would love to know whether your assertion is based on the conclusions of this research, before I accept it. I do read but am not a scientist or a psychologist. But recent findings on proving mental telepathy and healing through sending distant mental vibrations (includes prayer) is proving that thoughts or energy does travel from one person to another over thousands of miles. I had read that The California Pacific Medical Center is involved in this research and is getting very encouraging findings. But why go so far ? Haven't you seen that a patient responds better to treatment when he/she has the will to get better and when they don't their health deteriorates dramatically despite all the medicines and treatments ? Can medical science address that ? Similarly, there are some things which are beyond proof. They are simply there you cannot deny it. How do you know this? I deny it, in the absence of evidence that your statement is true. Just because you don't know you deny it. That doesn't mean it does not exist. A hundred years ago if someone was told that you could be heard thousands of miles away they would have laughed. Yet, today the telephone is a reality. If sound waves can be captured and transmitted why do you deny that thoughts can also be electro-magnetic waves which can be transmitted, accepted and responded to ? Just because science hasn't discovered it yet, it does not mean it does not exist. It is a superficial and narrow vision that says that if you haven't seen it or heard it or proven it in some physical way, it does not
