Re: [Goanet] Fw: BILLY GRAHAM'S DAUGHTER INTERVIEW
Floriano, thanks for the posting. I have read a similar article earlier too I think this is indeed relevant to the Art College issue also other crimes. What has happened is indeed very shameful shocking. If people/youngsters/or whoever for that matter had a proper upbringing were taught to be God-fearing from young, they would have had some moral spiritual values. It's very sad that parents/institutions give importance only to the physical intellectual needs of their children/students. They are probably not aware or don't think it is important to give attention to the 3rd most important aspect that is the spiritual growth of a person. It is through this aspect that a person knows to distinguish right from wrong, feel the presence of a conscience learns good values. This basic education is given at home then carried on in schools colleges. That reminds me of when I was in college we had a class called Value Education, there were many, who used to bunk this class because they thought it was a waste of time they could do something more worthwhile like fooling around in the campus canteen. This is exactly like said above - the interest in learning good values is created at home first. These crimes are all getting to be one big racket. Instead of the police trying to bring justice, they are very silent about the whole issue which clearly shows that they are hand-in-glove with the drug traffickers are definitely getting something out of it. This drug trafficking business is nothing new in Goa. It has been going on for years now if the police government were really interested, they would have done something by now. This is all part of the tourism in Goa. If there are no drugs, there will be less tourists, no rave parties so on also, how will the police make some quick easy money if they let these traffickers go scot free? From the coastal areas, drugs have now reached college campuses don't be surprised if they reach schools next. The newspapers too give contradicting stories about this latest case. They too are trying to hide the truth from the public. Will justice ever be done to the victim? Where has everyone's values gone? Luiza de Mello At 09:10 PM 5/26/2003 +0530, you wrote: Forwarded from my inbox. Thought it is relevant to the above subject floriano BILLY GRAHAM'S DAUGHTER INTERVIEW - Very thought- provoking ! Did you see where Billy Graham's daughter was being interviewed on the Early Show a few days ago about the September 11th terrorist attack and Jane Clayson asked her How could God let something like this happen? Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said I believe that God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman that He is, I believe that He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand that He leave us alone? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
[Goanet] 5 per cent of target population in Baina infected by STD:survey
--- Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph:2252660 --- --- 5 per cent of target population in Baina infected by STD: survey Despite non-funding by the Goa State AIDS Control Society (GSACS), the Mormugao Medical Foundation (MMF) seems to be actively carrying out family health awareness campaign in the neighbouring area of the red-light area at Katem-Baina. Recently, the MMF an NGO working in the field of public health and general welfare conducted a survey at Katem-Baina to determine the number of people suffering from STD, in order to identify and treat those individuals suffering from the STD. The survey was conducted by volunteers of MMF and was co-ordinated by the Urban Health Centre, Vasco. total of 1,187 individuals were briefed about the various types of sexually transmitted diseases.The survey indicates that about 5 per cent of the target population had been infected by STD. Further, the survey revealed that one of the prime reason was the proximity to the infamous red-light area. The survey also indicated that most of the people affected were couples in their early 20s, with generally the males who contracted the diseases, before spreading on to their spouses. A medical camp specially to treat STD has been organised next week at the MMF in co-ordination with the Urban Health Centre. Also, a street play has been planned by the MMF in Katem-Baina, as part of the family health awareness campaign. The MMF programme co-ordinator Srinivasan Kumar pointed out that despite requests by the MMF to carry out targeted intervention with migrant labourers in Katem-Baina an area which is highly vulnerable to HIV/AIDS the proposal was turned down by the GSACS only on account of the NGO not meeting the criteria for three-years registration. Further, Kumar pointed out that voluntary HIV tests conducted by the Directorate of Health Services (DHS) had a lot of people tested for HIV in the targeted area of Katem-Baina. He said MMF was of the opinion that it should be given preference to work on the targeted intervention programme irrespective of the three-year criteria. Kumar claimed while the three-year criteria was the sole factor for the rejection of their proposal, in the past the same was waived off in cases of some NGOs working in the same field. He also insisted that the MMF was transparent in its functioning and would take up the project proposal on a challenging base. The MMF should be encouraged to work in the area, instead of bringing a new organisation, which would have to do the same work all over again, thereby wasting its own resources, explained Kumar. - HERALD 19/5/03 - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Mosquitoes Be Gone
Lemon fresh Joy is an American product. In the U.K. we would use fairy liquid lemon or colgate palmolive lemon detergent or even persil. In Goa I guess it would be Teepol , if you can't get lemon teepol I suggest adding a few drops of lime juice or lemon juice. Try it out , got nothing to loose. I do hope it works. Has to be a whice plate and has to be just a drop of two of the detergent. donw over fill the plate with water. cheers Gabe - Original Message - From: D'Silva, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [Goanet] Mosquitoes Be Gone Gabe, I presume the Lemon Fresh Joy is a UK brand detergent Which Goan brand should we substitute this with to attain the results. If this works as reported we definitely would be enjoying better air quality inside our homes in Goa let alone the monetary savings by discontinuing those polluting mosquito killers. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] FEATURE: The Universe In A Mustard Seed (Maria Viency Cardoso)
Making a Difference : Outlook's weekly profile of people who work under wraps, beyond the laudatory limelight.* Magazine | 02 Jun 2003 The Universe In A Mustard Seed By Maria Viency Cardoso viency at yahoo.com Sea and sun, feni and fun, wrapped in a touristy membrane. For the outside world, which has always believed that ignorance is bliss, that?s Goa. But 16 years ago, someone begged to differ: no sirs, that?s not the full story, there?s more. What better way to portray this than theatre? Inspired by Arthur Miller?s /All My Sons/ and driven by the desire to impart a little cerebral weight to the somewhat laidback denizens of this lovely state, Maria Isabel de Santa Rita Vas planted a mustard seed. * Staging our first play was a discovery. We realised that theatre was not just art but also an instrument of change. So much was waiting to happen. So much could be done.* Yes, you read it right. A mustard seed. Something so tiny yet holding within itself innumerable possibilities for the future, as Isabel explains. That?s how the Mustard Seed Art Company came into being. It was not your usual buy-your-ticket-and-enjoy outfit, but was born from the depths of Goa's emotional incompleteness, its shifting sands of values. The state's helplessly dependant on the aesthetics of tourism'had finally got its share of serious theatre. Working on social themes, the group initially staged plays by well-known playwrights. It then started writing its own scripts based on experiential reality, scripts with a social conscience: /A Harvest of Gold/ (on the exploitation of farmers), /Who Killed the Ministers?/ (on corruption in political life), /Unmask the Mask/ (on social responsibility), /Little Boxes/ (on child labour). Their play /My Name is Goa/ performed entirely in mime?was particularly incisive, dealing with the history and culture of Goa, the oft-quoted Goan crab mentality, and the rampant problem of alcoholism. Mustard Seed?s latest street play is on war and conflict. Isabel is working on her next script on the rights of prisoners. As a Mustard Seed loyalist says about the group: They are eternally fighting with the dark ironies of Goan life. Their theatre is a combat with the theatre of the absurd. Isabel recalls their first foray into the unknown world of theatre: It wasn?t an original script, but staging our first play with its universal theme of individual and social responsibility was a moment of discovery. We realised that theatre was not just serious art but also a catalytic instrument of change. So much was waiting to happen. So much could be done. We never looked back. Today, Mustard Seed has grown into a luminescent plant. Its roots weave through local communities and landscapes. It has staged 35 plays, 14 of them original. Isabel, its president, was awarded the prestigious Goa Sudharop Fellowship this year, conferred by a non-profit ngo working for the betterment of Goa. They also got a prize for their play /Who Sits Behind My Eyes/ (inspired by a Tagore poem). Written by Isabel, it revolves around the life of a woman in a fishing village, with the message that the modern generation should not show its back to its own community and traditions. Isabel is a lecturer in English at the Dhempe College of Arts and Science, Miramar. Mustard Seed performs only during vacations. It does theatre in Goa, Bangalore and Mumbai, giving creative opportunities to hundreds of young people. Apart from theatre, Isabel?s involvement in community work is exemplary. She is a member of the discussion group Open Minds and has organised funds for several causes. She is the founding member of Positive People?the first counselling group in Goa on HIV/AIDS awareness. Positive People was the dream of late Dominic D'Souza, an aids patient (and a Mustard Seed member). The discrimination Dominic faced because of his disease inspired the group to write its first original play in 1992, /A Leaf in the Wind/. In a state choc-a-bloc with foreign tourists but oblivious to the consequent threat of AIDS, the play was an eye-opener. Many became aware of the disease for the first time. Isabel can be contacted at: Citadel Colony, Dona Paula, Goa, 403004. email: isabvas at goatelecom.com. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] Panchayats failing to hold gram sabhas warned of strict action
--- Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph:2252660 --- -- Panchayats failing to hold gram sabhas warned of strict action -- The Minister for Panchayats, Mr Manohar Azgaonkar, has warned panchayats violating the Goa Panchayati Raj Act that they could be excluded from government facilities including grants if they fail to hold gram sabhas in time. I will ask the director of panchayats to order all the BDOs to report the factual position of the gram sabha meetings in their respective panchayats and take neccesary action against those who fail to meet the provisions of the Act Mr Azgaonkar said while speaking to The Navhind Times. Mr Azgaonkar also revealed that if the sarpanchas fails to hold the gram sabhas, the BDOs are empowered to hold the same in the absence of sarpanchas and elected representatives. We will amend the Panchayati Raj Act in the next Assembly session. So that, strict action could be taken against the sarpanchas and elected representatives violating the Act, he said. Mr Azgaonkar also stated that the government has announced salary to the sarpanchas for the first time. The deputy-director of panchayat, Mr Gurudas Pilarnekar informed that orders would be given immediately to all the Block Development Officers insisting the records of the panchayats and gram sabhas. So that we will be in a position to place before the director of panchayat the actual position of these grassroot level bodies, he said. As per the Panchayati Raj Act, every panchayat has to have four scheduled gram sabhas (quarterly) and four special gram-sabhas every year. Records reveals that most of the panchayats in South Goa, including Salcete, have failed to hold gram sabhas in time and as a result the villagers are denied the rights of expressing their views. Mr Pilarnekar said, even after warning them, they continue violating the Act, we may be forced to take necessary actions against the sarpanchas. The records available in the BDO office, Margao, stated that Benaulim panchayat failed to hold ordinary gram sabha for last ten months. As per the records, the last gram sabha held was on October 27, 2002. Similarly, the village panchayat of Raia held its last gram sabha meet on May 25, after a gap of six months. The Navhind Times 28/05/03 page 3 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] On This Day In History... 29 May 2003
Today is Thursday, May 29, the 149th day of 2003 with 216 to follow. On this day, May 29, in history: In 1453, Constantinople (now Istanbul), capital of the Byzantine Empire, was captured by the Turks. In 1660, Charles II was restored to the English throne. In 1790, Rhode Island became the last of the original 13 states to ratify the U.S. Constitution. In 1848, following approval by the territory's citizens, Wisconsin entered the Union as the 30th state. In 1865, President Johnson issued a proclamation giving a general amnesty to all who took part in the rebellion against the United States. In 1953, Sir Edmund Hillary of New Zealand and Tenzing Norgay of Nepal became the first men to reach the top of Mount Everest. In 1958, Process for Beatification for Fr. Agnelo approved by Pope Pius XII. In 1977, a flash fire swept through a nightclub in Southgate, Ky., killing 162 people and injuring 30. In 1985, British soccer fans attacked Italian fans preceding the European Cup final in Brussels, Belgium. The resulting stadium stampede killed 38 people and injured 400. In 1987, film director John Landis and four other defendants were found innocent of involuntary manslaughter in the deaths of actor Vic Morrow and two Vietnamese child actors during the filming of Twilight Zone: The Movie. In 1989, Chinese students in Tiananmen Square erected a 33-foot statue similar to the Statue of Liberty. In 1990, renegade communist Boris Yeltsin was elected president of the giant Russian republic. In 1991, scientists from Emory University discovered the gene that causes fragile-X syndrome, an untreatable mental retardation. In 1993, federal health officials announced that an unidentified disease with no known cause had taken 10 lives on or near the Navajo Reservation in the southwestern United States. In 1995, the bodies of three more victims were found in the rubble of the bombed-out federal building in Oklahoma City. In 1996, in Israel's first selection of a prime minister by direct vote, Benjamin Netanyahu defeated Shimon Peres to become leader of Israel. The margin of victory was less than one percent. In 1997, Lt. Kelly Flinn, the Air Force's first female B-52 bomber pilot, was discharged following an investigation stemming from adultery charges against her. The same day, the Army relieved Brig. Gen. Stephen Xenakis of his command of the Dwight David Eisenhower Army Medical Center at Fort Gordon, Ga., because of an apparently improper relationship with a civilian nurse who was caring for his wife. Also in 1997, Zaire rebel leader Laurent Kabila was sworn in as president of what was again being called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 2000, the Indonesian government placed former President Suharto under house arrest on charges of corruption and abuse of power. In 2002, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington might have been avoided if the FBI had acted on available information. === Let's compile a chronicle of Goan History. If you have an authentic date and event in Goan History, please e-mail the details to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet] 29 MAY 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS May 29, 2003 SIX CONG MLAS WANT RANE TO BE REPLACED: Six of the 16 Congress MLAs yesterday demanded that the Congress Legislative Party leader Pratapsingh Rane be immediately replaced for being insensitive to party and other matters and failing to defend party MLAs in various cases It is learnt that Poinguinim MLA Isidore Fernandes, Santa Cruz MLA Victoria Fernandes, Sand Andre MLA Francis Silveira, Calangute MLA Agnelo Fernandes, Mormugao MLA Karl Vaz and Quepem MLA Chandrakant Babu Kavlekar have formed a core group within the CLP and would meet regularly to discuss various problems affecting the people from their respective constituencies. (GT) MEDICAL PANEL RULES OUT RAPE: The five-member expert medical team of Goa Medical College doctors has ruled out any indications of rape presently on the student of Fine Arts College, refraining from confirming whether the victim was raped or not on 17th May 2003. (GT) THEY DESTROYED MY DAUGHTER'S, FAMILY'S LIFE: RAPE VICTIM'S MUM: Ever since her daughter was brutally raped within the premises of the Fine Arts College on May 17, life has spiralled into an endless nightmare for the victim's mother. She hasn't slept the last ten nights; has been frenziedly shuttling between hospitals and police stations with a daughter who is still hounded by hallucinations and nightmares; and has not the energy to even call up her lawyer for an update on the case They have destroyed not only my daughter's life, but my entire family's, she says angrily, of the boys accused of the sexual abuse. (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsGN.asp?qId=799qSec=GNqNType=R) GANG-RAPE MORE SERIOUS THAN MURDER, SAYS PP: The prosecution today termed the gang-rape alleged to have taken place at the Fine Arts college around 10 days ago as more serious than murder, while the defense demolished the very claim of rape. The prosecution, represented by Public Prosecutor J C da Costa and the defense, represented by Advocate D Dhond on Wednesday argued on the bail applications filed in the Additional Sessions Court by Vishal Dhuri, (Taleigao), Roy Fernandes (Majorda), Norman Tagore Fernandes (Margao) and Audumbar Dhabolkar (Vagator) all accused of having been involved in the gang-rape of the 18 year old student. (H) NO ONE MUST FACE TRAUMA : It isn't only her good looks that strike you. More her innocence and naivete, which makes it easy to understand how she could have so easily been taken advantage of. She lives on a spiritual level and loves to paint, says her mother. But her innocence has been so horribly traumatised, that her mother and concerned friends fear the 18-year-old may never be the same again. I wish they would feel that what they did to me was wrong, and it should not happen to anyone else, says the student from Goa Art College who was raped on the campus over a week ago. (BY DEVIKA SEQUEIRA) (http://oherald.com/newherald/newsGN.asp?qId=797qSec=GNqNType=R) CPI FOR REPORT FROM WOMEN'S COMMISSION: The Goa unit of Communist Party of India has demanded that the Chief Minister should ask an independent report from State Commission for Women on the alleged gang-rape. This request has been made by the general secretary of CPI Mr Christopher Fonseca in an open letter to the chief minister. He has said that the women's commission should be directed to give its report especially as the members of the present commission consist of an advocate, a doctor, two teachers cum womens' rights' activists, a municipal counselor and a zilla parishad member. No sensitivity seems to have been shown while dealing with this issue, especially when the recently passed Childrens' Act calls for confidentiality considering the age of both the accused and the victims, he has pointed out. (H) NGO FRONT TO PROTEST: Bailancho Saad has formed a joint action front to protest crime against women and would get into action on Goa Statehood Day, May 30, at 10 am at Azad Maidan by protesting against the alleged gang rape reported at Goa College of Art. Dr Seema Salgaonkar enlisted various points why reservation should come into effect and how society would benefit from contribution of women politicians Patricia Pinto, Councilor, Corporation of City of Panjim said women politicians are more sensitive to issue concerning society. Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad suggested that committees be formed in colleges to protect college girls against eveteasing and any sort of sexual assault should be more forthcoming in helping girls counter any kind of physical and emotional assault. (H) 12-HOUR WATER SUPPLY TO MAPUSA LIKELY: Even as several pockets in the State are parched, the Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar, yesterday announced that Mapusa may get 12 hours of water supply within days. The Chief Minister spent the day in Mapusa where he first had a meeting with the city fathers and then with the task force involved with the development of Mapusa.
RE: [Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY 2003
From Rene Barreto: The Goans Association Calgary, under the leadership of their President Wilson Soares and in association with Goans of Edmonton have drawn up this years WGD celebrations. They hope that Goans from Vancouver will join them too. Your SUPPORT will be OUR SUCCESS Gilbert Lawrence writes: Great job President Wilson Soares and the G.O.A. of Calgary and Vancouver. Great programs. Do you know when your and our compadres in Greater Toronto Area are hosting their World Goa Day celebration? We can then put the dates on our calendar and collaborate with our neighbors to the north making it an international event. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Re: Corruption in the Customs - Goa.
In a message dated 5/28/03 6:55:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, EdgarStmartins writes: As a young man, I often travelled by ship to Bombay from Africa. I also travelled from Goa to Bombay overland through Londa and Castle Rock. I have always been curious and had observed the ease with which one entered Goa and Africa from Bombay without much harassment from the Customs authorities and without having to bribe the Goan or African Customs authorities. This goodwill shown to travellers leaving India is not reciprocated by Indian authorities. I can imagine the 'fight to death' attitude of Indians trying to succeed monetarily, to get a position in the Indian Customs, They, most probably amass wealth and live in palaces having been born in mud houses. Ha! Nothing but parasites preying on their own kind who would sell their mothers and sisters for the proverbial thirty pieces. I even feel that Judas was more honourable as he felt guilty and threw the money back at those who bribed him. I know of a handicapped person in my village needing a wheelchair. He moves around in a rusty wheelchair and I am sure that he would appreciate a better one. I know of hospitals that need beds and equipment. It is true that India manufactures these items (some of which lack quality) and has laws to protect industry. I know of schools that need books, computers, software and many poor Indians who would appreciate clothes. But the problems of sending these from abroad are insurmountable. The hawks in the Customs will not allow anything to pass their departments unless their hands are heavily greased. India is a seething,corrupt and nefarious hinterland where religion, nationalism and moral valuesare openly bartered for personal gain. I had sent quite a few books to Goa a few years ago. The Goans here had sent medicines, clothes and other things in a container. Hurdles erected by greedy customs led Caritas to refuse gifts from outside India. Two years ago, I took an old CPU in my baggage which being electronic was easily detected and the hawk at the Sahar Airport demanded Rs.8000.00 as a bribe to allow me to get through. I wish that the Government of India would as a gesture of goodwill to the NRI's allow gifts to charitable institutions without custom duties. We should not beg for anything only when there is a calamity like an earthquake (as in Algeria) or flooding (as in Sri Lanka) or even famine as in Ethiopia. I know the reasons for this callous behaviour but disagree with the hardships meted out to people who deserve respect and consideration. Edgar Martins ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] What about Goans in football?
Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, we seem to have very few names listed under football. Isn't that strange, considering that Goa has a fairly long tradition of football? (See the Vasco sports club interesting souvenir on the subject, brought out by journalist Francis Ribeiro and Noel Lima Leitao on the subject recently.) Can someone shed light on this? FN Folks, I know of two Goans who played soccer for Tanganyika. One is Edward Fernandes who now lives in Toronto and the other is Michael Fernandes who lives in Calgary. I am sure Tony Barros has more names here :-) Mervyn __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Quotable Quote
= Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same. - George Bernard Shaw = ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Re: [The Goan Forum d-list] Dear George Pinto: re Kam Zalem Voiz Melo and the H word!
KAM ZALEM -- VOIZ MELO Very very true -- get one Keralite into any organisation and fairly soon there are Keralites everywhere -- but Keralites of all types -- Nairs, Christians, Muslims -- and they all work hard so that the person who originally recommended them does not have any regrets or disappointments -- but with Goans, if I recommend someone, I know quite positively that I will hear complaints that his work is not up to the mark or that he is too busy partying, etc The person who has been helped does not remember that on his performance others could also benefit -- but by letting down the person who originally recommended him, he has ensured that that person will not be able to help others and also the organisation who originally tried to help Goans will now decide not to help anyone in future Cheers Aloysius D'Souza - Original Message - From: Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: [The Goan Forum d-list] Dear George Pinto: re Kam Zalem Voiz Melo and the H word! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/E5z3lB/TM -~- Professor George Pinto wrote: [There is Martin Luther King too if one wanted someone with global recognition. Without MLK, Goans in America would not enjoy the benefits they do today, regardless of how conviniently they have forgotten a black man's struggle for freedom, civil rights, and liberties for all.] Dear George, There is a famous konkani phrase, Kam Zalem, Voiz Melo. This phrase succinctly encapsulates Our basic tendency to FORGET those who help us. It is absolutely true that without MLK's movement, life would be different for many Goans. BUT..there are other examples too! 1. Without Mahatma Gandhi, India may still have been under British rule. Look what the Rt. Wing Hindus did to him. 2. Without Pio Gama Pinto, Kenya may still be under colonial rule. Look at what the Black Africans did to him. 3. Without Cheddi Jagan, Guyana would still be British Guyana. Look at what the Afro-descent Forbes Burnham did to him. 4. Without that journey of Vasco da Gama the intervention of Afonso de Albuquerque, Goa would probably still have been under the Moghals or Turks. See how we blind that from our thought process. 5. Without the Afonso de Albuquerque decree, we'd still be joyfully encouraging our women to commit Sati. How many among us know that? 6. Without the intervention of St. Francis Xavier, we'd still be practising that Apartheid Caste System imposed by the Aryans on the rest. How many of us are up to changing our ways and shunning that HOME AWAY brewed colour based discrimination. 7. Without the intervention in 1961 of Gov Vassalo da Silva The Patriarch, many Goans would have been wiped out! There are many more examples.. most of which involve us, Goans! BUT.what do we do? 1. We practice Colour Based Discrimination at home BUT complain about those WHITE people! 2. We spew hate on the Vatican BUT want them to canonize Goan Saints! 3. We hate Portugal and the Portuguese BUT line up at the nearest Portuguese Consulate for Portuguese passports. 4. We spew hate about Vasco da Gama BUT want the Portuguese Government to sponsor the book on Vasco da Gama written by us. 5. We hate the British have tall claims about love for Bharat when we are in East Africa, but run to that same Britain flashing British passports, when the Africans kick us out. 6. We talk tall about equality BUT have different clubs and events for Tailors and others. 7. We talk about G.O.A.; indicating that the A stands for Association but all we have is a massive DisAssociation. 8. We offer platitudes to Konkani, BUT make NO effort to speak it. No wonder we have no reaction to the undiscernable Artificially Sanskritized Konkani that the Catholic Church in Goa has imposed on Goan Catholics. To us, it does NOT make an iota of difference. We did not understand Konkani, so why should we bother about this S-Konkani. No change as far as we are concerned. 9. We talk tall about human dignity and rights, YET we speak NOT ONE WORD about the number of women who are raped in our land. We note that one of our friends aka journalist, plasters personal post-mortem details of a hapless young Goan female athlete ALL OVER the net; Stuff which was confidential and even stuff which was conjecture. But we remain silent - as it just might offend our buddies. Some of us even defend the right to Information. My My..how silent we are when a young women gets gang raped. Just as silent when the Goa Sex Scandal became known. Just as silent as when Goan women were raped by members of the Indian Armed Forces in
RE: [Goanet] indianfootball.com AWARDS 2003 - final round voting
-Original Message- From: Arunava Chaudhuri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] indianfootball.com AWARDS 2003 - final round voting indianfootball.com AWARDS 2003 - Final Round voting: Now you have another two weeks to vote for the best of the best in the five different categories, with the votes of the preliminary Round counted, you can now choose the best in each of the five catgories. In the players section you have the choice among the best three, while for coaches and clubs you have five to choose from. THE CATEGORIES: (the nominees listed alphabetically) PLAYER of the year [ ] Ashim Biswas [ ] Alvito D'Cunha [ -] Debjit Ghosh FOREIGN PLAYER of the year [ ] Douglas da Silva [- ] Mike Okoro [ ] Yakubu Yusif ROOKIE (NEWCOMER) of the year [- ] Ashim Biswas [ ] Sunil Chetri [ ] Malswam Tulunga COACH of the year [ ] Subhas Bhowmick [ ] Stephen Constantine [ ] Savio Madeira [- ] Derrick Pereira [ ] Peter Vales TEAM of the year [ ] Dempo SC [ ] East Bengal Club [ ] Salgaocar SC [ ] Sporting Clube de Goa [ -] Vasco SC Cast your votes at http://www.indianfootball.com/votes2003.html or send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! (Everyone can cast only one vote!) bye, Arunava Arunava Chaudhuri - [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster http://www.indianfootball.com/ alternative server: http://www.indianfootball.de/ By books, CDs, DVDs, etc at AMAZON through indianfootball.com: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=theunofficiwe-21site=hom e ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet Disclaimer The message contained in this e-mail is meant for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution of or taking any action in reliance on the contents of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
RE: [Goanet] Mosquitoes Be Gone
Gabe, I presume the Lemon Fresh Joy is a UK brand detergent Which Goan brand should we substitute this with to attain the results. If this works as reported we definitely would be enjoying better air quality inside our homes in Goa let alone the monetary savings by discontinuing those polluting mosquito killers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mosquitoes Be Gone In a message dated 05/27/2003 8:09:38 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a tip that was given at a recent gardening forum: Put some water in a white dinner plate and add a couple of drops of Lemon Fresh Joy dish detergent. Set the dish on your porch, patio, or other outdoor area. I'm not sure what attracts them, the lemon smell, the white plate color, or what, but mosquitoes flock to it, and drop dead shortly after drinking the Lemon Fresh Joy/water mixture, and usually within about 10 feet of the plate. Check this out---it works just super! Thanks, Gabe, for the above tip which sounds fantastic :-) We'll give it a try and hopefully be free from the machar (mosquitoes). Hope it works better than those Citronella lamps. Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Probe drug angle in the Art College rape case.
--- Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph:2252660 --- -- Probe drug angle -- An aspect of the gang rape case which is most baffling is the narcotics dimension. Even the top echelons of the police and the medical establishment who have at least privately been very vehement in disputing the accusation of gang rape acknowledge that the victim was drugged. The police have even gone to the extent of labelling the drug as the magic mushroom presumably on the basis of the complaint of the mother that the accused had told the victim that the cigarettes given to her had mushrooms. Magic mushrooms is known to be a mild and conscious-altering substance not unlike LSD. Like all mind-bending and altering drugs even minor doses can cause violent mood swings. The initial impact of most psychotropic drugs is a tremendous sense of euphoria and well-being unrelated to the actual ground reality. Elsewhere in the issue we have reproduced several case studies of what happens when someone is drugged with magic mushrooms for the benefit of the police and the high-powered committee who may be too lazy to research the effect of magic mushrooms. In the jargon used by drug users substances like magic mushrooms are referred to as uppers. We speak with some authority on the subject because over 30 years ago we have personally experienced in controlled conditions what is called an acid trip, which is very similar to symptoms that those drugged down magic mushrooms display. In fact in the 70s inspired or provoked by Aldous Huxley's Doors of Perception everyone who had any intellectual or artistic pretensions experimented with psychotropic drugs. From our extensive reading on psychotropic drugs and memories of our own acid trip we find no inconsistency between the victim's initial euphoria and sense of elation about what in normal condition would be an extremely traumatic experience. And it is characteristic with psychotropic drug experience that when the effect of the drug begins to wear off and their memory returns anxiety and panic sets in. All drugs have a down side effect in the cycle and it is clear that the belated knowledge of the implications of what may have transpired sent the victim into a state of shock. A shock intensified by fear, anxiety, hurt outrage and even paranoia. We published the full unexpurgated version of the mother's complaint because it had a ring of truth. If the mother's intention was to obscure the facts, she would not have acknowledged in her complaint that her daughter had come in an elated mood with five roses. It is also consistent with drug withdrawal symptoms that anxiety and panic setting when the victim began to understand what may have happened. But quite apart from amateur psychoanalysis drugs which are freely available within the Goa Art College campus, there have been allegations that the brother of the canteen contractor runs a shack in Vagator and is connected with the drug trade. Magic mushrooms, if that was the drug that was used, is fairly scarce and is not available in the friendly neighbourhood gaddo or across the counter in a pharmacy. It is also clear from the police statements that the accused knew what drugs they were administering and what impact it would have on the victim. It is not at all a coincidence that under the influence of drugs like magic mushrooms an altered state of consciousness was created and the victim could not react emotionally or rationally to the unwelcome attention of her tormentors. It is also clear that the accused had done whatever they have been accused of doing with cold blooded premeditation. By no stretch of imagination can it be dismissed as a rush to the head or blithe spirits who got carried away. Obviously the assault was planned meticulously to the last detail. A curious aspect of the whole episode is that there have been no protests of innocence from the parents of the accused. The police who should have by now coerced or frightened or tortured statements out of the accused have also been very silent on what the accused have to say. This stoic silence on the part of the police about the views of the accused in contrast to their willingness to offer intimate details of the forensic report of the victim is itself very suspicious. All of which leads to only one conclusion.That the drug mafia is probably involved. That perhaps the parents of the accused are aware of the fact that their children had been experimenting with drugs. That the accused students are unwilling to talk not out of fear of the police but out of the fear of possible retribution or retaliation by the drug barons who can be very ruthless. It is even possible that the police know the origin and the source of the drugs but
