[Goanet]Re: Goan Joke

2003-08-05 Thread angela
Hi everyone,

This is to just clear any misunderstanding some of you may have regarding
the joke I had posted on the GoaNet.  I have in no way claimed that it was
written or composed by me.  Actually, it was sent to me by a friend, and
since I found it to be quite humorous, thought of sharing it with you'll in
good faith.  I do not dispute the fact that Cecil Pinto may have written the
original joke... I would
appreciate if he shared some more of these with us ;-)  Excuse me once again
if I caused misunderstanding to the readers, which was unintentional.

Angela



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RE: [Goanet]Did Jesus Exist?

2003-08-05 Thread DeQuadros, Ciril


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Subject: [Goanet]Did Jesus Exist?




Goanetters,

My reply to the above question.

We as humans generally have two choices to make at most junctures in our day
to day lives. That is do we take a right turn or do we go left ? Do we shout
abuse at someone who crossed us or do we just let it go?. That is the what
makes us unique from most other living things, this free choice that our
countries have fought countless wars about. Thus with the above question,
there can only be two answers; yes or no. St Thomas Moore is reputed to have
told his former associates (who wanted him to go along with Henry VIII's
divorce because they reckoned that it didn't matter to pay lip service) that
on judgement day if you truly believed in what you had done on earth and you
could defend your decisions, then God would welcome you into Heaven
regardless. 

This is the only decision I will be able to defend. I choose to believe that
the answer to the above is yes. I do not need any proof. 

warm regards

Ciril de Quadros
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Re: [Goanet]CLIPPINGS OF WINGS

2003-08-05 Thread Miguel

 MICCKY SPLITS FROM UGDP (SECULAR): The Tourism Minister and Benaulim MLA,
Mr Mickky Pacheco, on August 4 claimed that he has split from the UGDP
 (Secular) on Sunday before the party decided to merge with the BJP. It may
 be recalled that UGDP (Secular) and MGP (Nationalist) at a joint meeting
 held at Taleigao on Sunday evening, passed  a resolution resolving to
merge
 both the splinter groups into the BJP. Mr Pacheco has formed UGDP
 [Secular{Mickky}] group. Sources close to him said that he still appeared
to
 be under the mesmerising effect of Mr Parrikar and they did not rule out
 their leader joining the BJP at a later date. (H)



What do we call him now, MICKKY MOUSE  or  FRANCISCO POCHEK ?

Did Mickky fail the GRE test.? Goenchea Ramponkarancho Ekvott  members
form the bulk of his coastal constituency,Benaulim.


 MADE TO ORDER VOJEM: Understanding the difficulty of parents, who often
 run helter-skelter in getting ready the vojem ( a gift of assorted
 vegetables, fruits and sweets to a married daughter) in time during the
 Chathurthi, Goa Handicrafts and Rural Small Industries Development
 Corporation chairman Damu Naik has come up with a novel idea. He along
with
 other members have decided to cash on the tradition by offering to prepare
 'made to order Vojem' during the Chaturthi festival this month. (GT)


May be Babush will send Mickky a 'vojem' in his new 'sasural'. Even the cat
says 'Mao' and the rats/mice have to be careful. or care fool.



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[Goanet-news]06 AUG 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2003-08-05 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
06 Aug 2003

MONSERRATE, MADKAIKAR JOIN BJP: While welcoming the two ministers, Pandurang
Madkaikar and Atanasio Monserrate into the party fold, BJP national
secretary Pramod Mahajan said the party had come to stay in Goa. Addressing
the BJP rally at Azad Maidan, Mahajan said the party had performed
creditably at the local as well at the national level and assured a still
better performance during the next few years. (GT)

NO MID-TERM POLL IN GOA: Pramod Mahajan, BJP National General Secretary,
stated yesterday that Goa would not have a mid-term poll. No assembly
elections will take place in Goa till 2007, Mahajan assured reporters. (GT)

UGDP(S) MICKKY IS HERE TO STAY? With Mickky Pacheco doing an eleventh hour
turnaround, the UGDP (Secular-Mickky) has now come to stay, (at least for
the moment). There would be two representations of the UGDP in the House,
one represented by Mathany Saldanha, belonging to the original party and the
other by the Tourism Minster, Mickky Pacheco, heading the splinter group.
(H)

MAHAJAN THREATENS TO 'HIJACK' CM: BJP general secretary Pramod Mahajn almost
'threatened' to hijack Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar to the central
government, considering the rate of development in the State. Mr Mahajan,
however, paused before assuring the crowd at Azad Maidan that such a
recourse would be adopted only after 2007. (H)

PARRIKAR TENDERS APOLOGY TO HC: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on Tuesday
tendered an apology to the High Court and expressed sincere regrets for
the statement made by him allegedly casting aspersions on the judiciary, if
it was found objectionable, and maintained that his remarks had not been
correctly reproduced by the press. (H)

PICKLE BAN LIFTED: Goans in many parts of the globe can now savour the famed
Goan pickle with their meals. Air passengers taking Goan pickles to their
near and dear ones to distant places should no longer have any problem at
the airports across the country in view of the partial modification of the
circular issued by the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security, which has struck
off 'pickles' from its list of banned items in hand baggage. (H)

DISQUALIFICATION PETITION HEARING AGAINST PACHECO: A hearing of the
disqualification petition filed by Congress MLA Jitendra Deshprabhu against
Tourism Minister Francisco X Pacheco has been fixed on 21 August 2003
morning by Speaker Vishwas Satarkar. (GT)

TWO DIE IN FATAL MISHAP: Two persons died (N Ravikumar and his mother-in-law
Kurpamana) died in a fatal accident near Bogmalo church at around 1 pm
yesterday. Ravikumar lost control of the scooter on the Bogmalo slope and
dashed against a road-side tree. His two sons aged 9 and 7, who were also
traveling on the scooter, sustained minor injuries. (GT)

MAN COMMITS SUICIDE: One Piedade Agnel D'Souza (40), from
Karmaliwada-Kakoda, allegedly committed suicide by hanging himself from the
shaft of the roof of his house. (GT)

LABOURER FOUND DEAD: Laxman Chalwadi (45), a labourer who was reported
missing since Saturday, was found dead in a stone quarry at St Pedro,
Ribandar. (GT)

GOVT TEACHERS UNDER FIRE: Teachers of government schools in the State have
come under heavy fire for poor results obtained in the SSC examinations with
memos being issued and explanations sought by the Department of Education
for the same. (H)

WHITE ELEPHANTS: In many remote parts of Sanguem taluka, primary education
has become a builder's dream and a student's nightmare. For, a large number
of buildings constructed by the government to run primary schools in Sanguem
constituency since the 1990s are either lying unused, in a dilapidated
condition or are on the verge of collapse. (H)

MID-DAY MEAL SCHEME: The mid-day meal scheme for primary school children is
proposed to commence by August 15, 2003, with a menu of pre-cooked food
items to prevent any mishaps as reported last time. (H)

HC NOTICE TO MAPUSA COUNCIL: The Panjim Bench of the Bombay High Court has
issued notices to the Mapusa Municipal Council as well as the North Goa
Planning and Development Authorities following a petition filed by three law
students pertaining to parking problems in Mapusa. (H)

RAINS LASH VASCO CITY: Rains accompanied by squally winds stormed the port
city of Vasco for a short while from about 5.30 pm to 6 pm yesterday. (GT)

VERNA GRAM SABHA: The Verna panchayat gram Sabha held recently resolved to
request the Director of Agriculture to desilt water nullas and construct a
bandy in Vellem Tollem, to acquire 36,6000 sq mt of land at Proda for a
football ground and a multi-purpose sports complex, and to request the
Comunidade to reserve 2 lakh sq mt of land for the villagers of Verna for
housing purpose. (GT)

CONSTRUCTION ON CUNCOLIM LAND: In a belated but significant decision the
Town and Country Planning Department has declined to approve construction
plans on land owned by the Sociedade Agricola dos Gauncares de Cuncolim e
Veroda. (H)

FB DISCUSSION ON LAW-MAKING: Friday 

[Goanet]Chirputtam (Fizalis?)

2003-08-05 Thread The Thaumaturgist
Dear Gabe
Cape Gooseberry is Physalis peruviana.
Thanks.

Asit K. Ghosh
Rockledge, Florida, USA
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From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:27:15 +0100
Subject: [Goanet]Chirputtam (Fizalis?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am not sure if it is the same. over here we have them
sold in our
supermarkets and they are called cape gooseberries.

Cheers

Gabe.

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[Goanet]NEWS: Don't think of elections till 2007, Mahajan assuresinstability-prone Goa

2003-08-05 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Don't think of elections till 2007, Mahajan assures instability-prone Goa

From Frederick Noronha

PANJIM (Goa), Aug 5: Goa's government will last for its full term till May
2007, and there will be no mid-term assembly elections, BJP's national
general secretary Pramod Mahajan said here today.

Mahajan was speaking after the induction of two ministers from the BJP's
ally-parties into the BJP. 

The duo who entered the party were transport, revenue and river navigation
minister Pandurang Madkaikar (Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party) and town 
country planning and environment minister Atanasio Monserrate (United Goans
Democratic Party).

There will be no assembly elections in Goa till May 2007, Mahajan told a
news conference Tuesday morning, asked about the possibility of a mid-term
poll amidst speculation that the ruling party, which lacks a majority in the
40-seat assembly, was gearing up for the same, amidst announcements of
various sops.

There is no need for any such elections. The (BJP) government is stable and
able We don't want to trouble the people of Goa to vote again and again.
Elections only helps me to make speeches, and you (journalists) to get some
news, he said.

Mahajan said the talk of 'synchronising' parliamentary and assembly
elections in India was more a part of a national debate, and even if it
did come about would take time and a lot of legal changes to come about. 

By admitting the two coalition ministers into the BJP, Mahajan said the
BJP's numbers in the 40-seat assembly had risen to a technical strength of
19 and a practical strength of 20.

BJP won 17 seats, and one Independent backed it the May 2002 elections.

Mahajan said by the ministers crossing over both friends have now become
relatives of the BJP. 

But, he sought to argue, this was not an act of defection, because both the
politicians had gained nothing new out of changing parties, since they
were already ministers in the BJP-lead coalition government earlier.

Facing journalists' queries on whether this amounted to a 'breach of trust'
of the 'coalition dharma' (rules of coalition politics), the BJP leader
pointed out that the two coalition parties had not complained, and that they
still continue to support the BJP-led coalition in Goa. 

Mahajan continued the BJP's style of winning friends, breaking up allies and
influencing politics in Goa when he presided over the admission of two more
ministers from the BJP's coalition partners (UGDP and MGP) into the BJP.

But Mahajan argued that this was not a defection, because not only was it
within the laws of the land, but also within its spirit. He sought to argue
that the duo switching over although they had gained nothing. 

If you know then individually, there cannot be the slightest element of
coercion, said the BJP national general secretary, alluding to the more
than controversial character of the duo, Town  Country Planning Minister
Atanasio Monserrate and Transport Minister Pandurang Madkaikar.

But the BJP's plan to get a clear majority in the 40-seat Goa assembly came
a cropper, when another maverick, sports minister Mickky Pacheco changed
his mind and did not join the BJP after breaking away from his United Goans
Democratic Party along with the minister Monserrate late July.

Pacheco changed his mind at the eleventh hour, causing embarassment to the
BJP, amidst reports of pressures from his workers, the one-member strong
Nationalist Congress Party locally headed by Dr Wilfred de Souza and others.

But, while speaking informally to some in the Fourth Estate, he dropped
hints that he could be joining the BJP in a month or two.

With Tuesday's defections, the BJP has 19 party MLAs and one Independent in
the 40-seat assembly. Since Independent water resources minister Filipe Neri
Rodrigues was not elected on a party ticket, he cannot be counted as a BJP
MLA, and the Goa government still stays a coalition government.

But the BJP has so far managed well to keep the Opposition divided, with its
carrot-and-stick policy of sharing spoils with some Congressmen and other
politicians, while using the state machinery to proceed with criminal cases
against others, including the BJP's former allies.

It can depend on support from politicians like former Congress stalwart and
three-time chief minister Dr Wilfred de Souza, while a number of Congress
leaders -- ex-CM Pratapsing Rane, Luizinho Faleiro and Churchill Alemao --
have faced charges of being soft on the Parrikar-led BJP in Goa at one time
or another. (ENDS)

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Re: [Goanet]MIRACLES DO HAPPENS !

2003-08-05 Thread Chimbelcho
In a message dated 8/5/2003 4:41:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 If you truly believe in the Almighty miracles like
 these do happens.
 

To believe this story one has to also believe in ghosts. No offense intended.

Cheers,

Santosh

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Re: [Goanet]Despite accidental deaths,Goa Govt refrains from helmetcompulsion

2003-08-05 Thread Miguel
Indeed, the policy seems to collect fines from the motorcyclists for not
having a PUC even when their vehicles are obviously not unduly polluting,
trucks,busses and even police vehicles bellow smoke .visible for seconds
after they have passed the spot.
Police Sumo and Trax vehicles routinely overtake on the Mandovi bridge.

The transport vehicle drivers pay a 'hafta',two wheeler riders pay 'fines'.
Although  both are money transactions, the 'fines' become the official
statistics and give the two wheelers a bad name. Bad money produces
'favourable satisitics  Said Benjamin Disraeli (ex-PM of UK), There are
lies,damned lies and statistics. How true in this case.
Miguel

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From: goasuraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [ Just some of my views on the helmets.They are no longer news.
  Miguel]

 Just to say that Miguel's suggestions are noted for the Goa Su-Raj
Manifesto
 2004.

 Goa Su-Raj has been saying exactly what Miguel says i.e. improve the
public
 transport system and two wheeler population will decrease drastically.
 If I may add two more accident causes in driving/riding 4/2 wheelers:

 1)  90 + percent of the drivers/riders ( includes all type of vehicles)
cut
 in at the turns on the wrong side of the road. 
 2) Challan everyone who uses headlights in  full beam in towns and cities
from dusk to
 dawn, that is if the Traffic cops are on duty at all.
 (Talking about full beams, most of the accidents on highways is due to the
 blinding from the full beams. This problem is past the control of Goa's
RTO)

  reckless driving and tendency to over-take. When it is the question
  of one's own life, one need to control one's own speed while driving
  , he added.

 Most accidents during overtaking take place because of the 'smoke
factories'
 infront making it impossible for the rear drivers to breath. Hence the
 desperate overtaking to avoid being fumigated. Traffic cops (interceptors)
 are seen merrily challaning two wheelers and unconcerned of the smoke
 factories passing under their very nose. 
 Floriano
 goasuraj



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Re: [Goanet]Re: Goan Joke

2003-08-05 Thread Chimbelcho
In a message dated 8/5/2003 3:21:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Excuse me once again if I caused misunderstanding to the readers, which was 
 unintentional.


Hi Angela:

Thanks for that clarification. It is indeed very nice of you to do that. Sorry for the 
misunderstanding on my part.

Cheers,

Santosh

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[Goanet]Rainwater Harvesting:Volunteers from Saligao try their hands atcheck-dams

2003-08-05 Thread Goa Desc
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Reeling every summer from acute water shortage, Saligao villagers
are now trying to catch the rain. Every Saturday afternoon, a group
of Saligao citizens pull out their pick-axes, crowbars and other
digging implements to go up the hill where they dig trenches
or put up check-damns on the slopes to allow the rain water to
seep into the ground.
''The idea is to prevent any water from running off the slopes into
the storm drains and eventually into the sea. We want a maximum
quantity of water to seep into the ground and swell the water table,''
says Mr Ambrose Vaz. Though a banker, Mr Vaz is now helping
his co-villagers save water besides money. They all hope a properly
recharged water table will provide better relief in summer when pipelines
of the public works department and also their wells run dry.
The Saligao effort at rainwater harvesting, purely an initiative of the
villagers, began in late May. The group assembles at 4.30 p.m. every
Saturday on the Saligao hill behind the department of science, technology
and environment. We dig trenches at open places on the slopes where
the water run-off is high. Each trench is about one foot deep and one
metre long, explains Mr Mario Mascarenhas, another member
of the group. We also divert the running water into naturally-occurring
depressions, says Mr Mascarenhas. Besides, the group also puts up
check-dams of mud-and-stone to slow down the water.
No paid labourers are hired; the digging is done totally by the village
volunteers, otherwise unaccustomed to such grit and grime.
The effort is broad-based including members of the Saligao parish council,
the Saligao Civic and Consumer forum and other villagers. The work
is done on land belonging to, and with the approval of, the Saligao
Communidade, whose president, Brigadier (retd) Ian da Costa also
participates whenever possible.
Age and gender are no bar to participate in rainwater harvesting in Saligao.
So while Mr Mascarenhas takes his two small children to help, one of
the most active members of the group is octogenarian, Mr Seby D'Cruz.
Along with Ambrose Vaz, uncle Seby is in the forefront of this initiative.
He is a hard worker and does top quality work, says Mr Mascarenhas.
A number of Saligao women also lend a helping hand. But the amateur
effort is backed by solid know-how from qualified personnel of the Goa
State Council for Science and Technology, luckily located on the Saligao
hill.
Dr Sachin Tendulkar, an agriculturist who is working on the council's
watershed project at Morpilla, South Goa, under Dr N P S Varde,
is guiding the initiative. Also chipping in are Mr Satej Kamat, another
agriculturist and Dr Mohan Girap, a geologist. Dr Tendulkar is all praise
for the effort. They took the initiative at rainwater harvesting and it's a
good beginning. We have advised them to dig trenches on slopes where
there is an active surface flow of water.
He also feels recharging the groundwater from a height is definitely more
effective than doing it at a lower level. Due to construction activity and
other factors, the recharging ability at lower levels is much less. Though
it is felt that the hills are made up of hard rock, the rocks have fractures,
which allow the water to percolate to the groundwater aquifers that feed the
springs around these hills, says Dr Tendulkar.
The department of science, technology and environment, on the Saligao
plateau, has also been following the technique for some years now.
Trenches along the periphery of the department building canalise
the rainwater into a small stone quarry behind the building. Initially,
we felt that the quarry would overflow after a heavy downpour because
of the rocky surface. The quarry does fill up, but even if there is a brief 
lull
in the rain, the water level falls quickly. The hill absorbs all the water,
said Dr Tendulkar.

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[Goanet]Re: Chirputtam

2003-08-05 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
 
 
Dear Miguel
I hope this time I succeeded in sending the post in plain text. As my usual
e-mails go in rich text / html, I failed to change to plain text when such a
rule exists for goanet. Sorry for such a misbehaviour from another mortal
like you. I do remember the times when I was at Britto's and your sister
Fatima Braganza was teacher there. If I am not mistaken you were at Britto's
as student then?
I was amused by your successful linking Goan chirputtam with the German lady
and Russian vodka. It is strange how at times fragmented pieces of info can
fit in so well in different times and at such distances!
I have been following at least from time to time your efforts at creating
awareness about Goa´s botanical wealth. You deserve the praise of all Goans
who love their identity. Flora is a significant part of it.
Thank you and several others on goanet and through private e-mails for
satisfying my curiosity about our chirputtam. I would still want to know
about the derivation of that Goan name for physalis peruviana.
My next query would be about Garcia da Orta's reference to a plant in Goa for cure 
against snake venom. Recently a German descendant of a Goan mother from Candolim 
mentioned to me that he saw his mother and sister collecting those plants in that 
village. They would not want him to accompany them while performing their traditional 
medicinal forays.


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