[Goanet]Birthdays on 5th Apr 2004
Wishing you all a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to 5-Apr Cajetan de Sanvordem (Kuwait) 5-Apr Evelyn Siqueira Miramar, Goa(Special B'day wishes to you from your Brother: Allwyn) Thanks, Vincente. Please do notify if your e-mail address has been changed, for cc'ing B'day wished to your e-mail address. NOTE: Please send your Birthday's details for those who haven't done so far to the following e-mail address([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with subject as Birthday/Birthday details as per below format. Birth Day/Month NameBirth/Current Place _ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Pre-1961
It may warm the cockles of Ole Xac's heart to learn that the cut-off year for the Vintage Car Rally held at Margao yesterday was 1961. Why 1961 and not 1930, 1940, 1950 or even 1960, one may ask. Main organizer of the rally was a grandson of the redoubtable late Narcinv Naique, Goa's leading automobile dealer in pre- and post-1961 years and founder Vice-President of the defunct United Goans Party. The rally was a success by all accounts. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Police Priorities
ASI V.K.Yerram of CID Mapusa issues a 'Memo' to his three 'Hawaldar' insubordinating subordinates; the memo gets 'leaked' and Yerram gets suspended.NO ONE IS KILLED IN THIS PROCESS.Only the names of some politicians and political parties are involved. There are investigations by his 'superiors', there is a 'departmental enquiry' and there is an enquiry by the Election Commission. A Traffic Policeman 'orders' a Traffic Constable to catch/apprehend and detain a ten year old 'street kid' who is walking in the street. The constable and four Margao Municipal Council workers catch and 'load' him onto the rear of a mini truck and transport him to the Police Station for a 'medical check-up'. The boy jumps out and attempts to escape. He is chased and killed [by accident or otherwise]. THE BOY IS DEAD. On the second-last day of the Financial Year, his account on this Earth is prematurely closed. The Superintendent of Police justifies the action as an act of 'good faith' [ two words that protect a Government employee in due discharge of his 'duties in the designated post'.] even though the "duties" of the 'Traffic Police' do not extend to preventive detention or to any action on non-traffic offences. If the traffic police man was doing his 'civic duty', he does not have the protection of law for his bonafide or malafide action by claim of 'good faith'. If such a protection is available to a citizen[ government employee or otherwise], can we load a drunk cop in a garbage truck and take him to a hospital for a check-up or unload him at the traffic police post? Can we chase a pretty LDC,UDC or steno in a government office because she has a bottle/tube of Erazex or some other 'white ink' in her hand? Would it be justification to push her under a truck or just chase her till she 'accidentally' falls under a speeding truck,bus or other vehicle or falls in the Mandovi? Would the 'white ink' help us to obliterate our action in the police records? If the answer is NO, why are the traffic cops and the MMC workers suspended and FIRs lodged against them a week after the Murder of the innocent boy. Is it a crime to be poor, to be orphaned, to be a street child? What are the Goa Police, Directorate of Prosecution, Home Department and the Home Minister trying to tell us? What are we doing? Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]05 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 05 APRIL 2004 Check GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news goacomNews02 Apr 04 H I G H L I G H T S -- Churchill Alemao is the South Goa Congress candidate -- Christopher Fonseca (CPI) is from North Goa - Dr Willy confident of winning -- Municipal market tenants stage morcha -- IFFI website inaugurated. Website: http://www.goacom.com Webzine "GoaNOW": http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news MGP TO FIELD SANDIP RAUT: The Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party, which has decided to go it alone in the Lok Sabha polls has decided to field Zilla Panchayat member Sandip Raut as its candidate for the Panaji seat. The MGP has decided to contest both seats in a bid to revive the party and also to keep its existence alive, according to the MGP chief. (GT) TRAFFIC DISCIPLINE NEEDED: Director General Police, Mumbai, Dr PS Pasricha, IPS, yesterday stated that traffic control and death on roads was a serious problem and stressed the need for better traffic discipline and education on the traffic. He was speaking at the first two-day Goa Road Safety conference organised by the Movement of Amity towards Roads in Goa, at the Institute Menezes Braganza hall, Panaji. (GT) STOP BARS ALONG HIGHWAYS: Use of helmets, removal of liquor outlets on highways, improving road engineering, enhancing enforcement and traffic education, was today (April 4) described by Maharashtra's Director General of Police, Dr PS Pasricha, as some of the key factors that will effectively contribute towards improving road safety in the State. (H) BARGE EMPLOYEE'S BODY FOUND: The Panjim police recovered the body of one barge employee who is suspected to have committed suicide by jumping out of the moving marine vessel early today (April 4) morning. The barge 'Cuncolim' was proceeding Amona to Vasco when the incident took place. (Clemente) Fernandes (33, from Seraulim) jumped from the moving vessel and his body was recovered near the Campal swimming pool. (H) DEBT CASES TO BE REFERRED TO MUMBAI: All pending and future disputes involving recovery of Rs.10 lakh and more between all co-operative banks in Maharashtra and Goa and their borrowers and guarantors would have to be referred to Bombay bench of Debts Recovery Tribunal. In a landmark judgement, the full bench of High Court Judicature at Bombay held that the Central and State Registrars of Co-operative Societies and also the nominees appointed by them have no jurisdiction to decide the dispute pertaining to recovery of loans above Rs.10 lakh give by the co-operative banks. (GT) VOTERS NEED TO DEMAND BETTER ROADS: Road culture in Goa is identified with the fashion of converting old, untarred roads into asphalted, pucca roads. There is no consideration of the durability, geometry, quality of riding surface, alignment, drainage and safety. In Bardez and Salcete the road density is so high and the intersections are so confusing and hazardous that almost every house is connected to a road. The condition of the 8,000-km-long road is pathetic. Only 50 per cent of our 225 km national highways have double-lanes. Our 23-km state highways have single lane. Out 52 major district roads running into 815 km are very narrow. The 4,000-km-long narrow village roads are not properly maintained. (Nandkumar Kamat in Glimpses-NT) PLEA TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY IN ITS TRUE MEANING: The Diocesan Service Centre for Social Action has called upon the citizens to act for restoring democracy in its true meaning and character. In an appeal to voter's the Centre said over 26.24 crore people live below the poverty line toiling under oppressive conditions to earn their meager basic needs for survival.In democratic India, the people are 'sovereign'. We have the right to freely decide what is 'necessary' and 'good' for our benefit and progress. We give the mandate to the persons we elect as our representatives, to legislate, govern and administer. These persons are fully accountable to us.Hence major proposals, projects and plans that impact the lives of the people, deserve a wide consultation. (NT) DIVAR SUMMER CAMP: The students of Our Lady of Divar High School, Divar, are all set to develop their talents with the launch of a summer camp under the banner "Divar Son of the Soil Project 2004" from April 5 to 18. Secretary of the DSE, Fr Tony Salema, will inaugurate the camp on April 5. Organised by the Parents and Teachers' Association of the school with the help of the ex-students and villagers, the camp is divided into four sections-sports, eco, culture and leadership programmes-held between 8 am and 12 noon. During the camp prominent personalities of Goa will share their knowledge on various topics in their field: NIO Director Dr Satish Shetye, cartoonist Alexyz, Sangeeta Naik of Digital Goa, North Goa SDPO Allan D'SA, Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad, SAG Director Dr VM Prabhudesai, Mr Gaonkar from Food and Drugs Administration, Fr
[Goanet]EXCHANGE OF GIFTS AT MAPUSA MILAGRES FEAST AND SHIRIGAO ZATRA!
Hi Miguel! I need a little clarification from you on the following: When I attended Shirigao Zatra in 1959, Anjuna Dhonds (a Dhond is a Hindu who participates in the ceremony of running through fire at Shirigao Zatra) with whom we attended the Zatra, told us that Mapusa church and Shirigao Temple authorities exchanged gifts at the Milagres feast and Shirigao Zatra respectively. We were told that Mapusa church sent seven pots of coconut oil (one pot each for each sister?) to Shirigao Temple and they in turn reciprocated with candles of equal worth. Is this true, and does it stiill take place? Please clarify. If true, it is yet another example that goes to prove the bondage between Hindus and Christians in Goa! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Fw: IFFI Advantages :By Sandeep Heble (NT Cybervoices) - COMMENTS: By Floriano Lobo (goasuraj)
- Original Message - From: Floriano Lobo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: IFFI Advantages :By Sandeep Heble (NT Cybervoices) - COMMENTS: By Floriano Lobo (goasuraj) Navhindtimes, 4 April 2004 CyberVoices IFFI Advantages : By Sandeep Heble Floriano Lobo in his post titled "problems related to IFFI", which appeared in The Navhind Times dated March 30, commits the cardinal sin of raking up a few disadvantages (some of them imaginary) associated with the film festival whist ignoring the huge benefits a festival of this kind can have for Goa and its citizens. Endowed with natural beaches and scenic nature, Goa has always been a tourist's paradise. Of late though, the growth rate in the tourism sector has been marginal and other states are fast catching up with Goa. In fact, states like Kerala have surged ahead and reasons for this are not difficult to comprehend. The modern tourist is a more demanding one. He has various choices at his disposal and Goa, apart from its natural beauty, has very little to offer to cater to his wants and needs. In a world fascinated with fame and celebrity, it comes as no surprise to find that films have consistently influenced travel decisions. The Hindi film Ek Duje Ke liye was credited with sending a huge wave of tourists to our state. If films enable countries and regions to leverage the visibility that they provide and boost their tourism potential, a film festival promises much more. The IFFI thus is a mountain of opportunity for Goa and Goans. It can bring substantial benefits in terms of jobs and income, and support for a wider choice of services and facilities that would otherwise be viable. While the boom in the tourism sector will be unimaginable, there are bound to be spin-offs in other areas too. Theatres, airlines, restaurants, hotels, consumer shops, travel agencies and construction houses are just some of the related businesses that can experience a huge growth. Investment in basic infrastructure too will grow at a fast and rapid pace. Mr Parrikar has shown the vision and the wisdom of a statesman by adopting policies that promise to give a big boost to Goa's tourism sector. The IFFI is bound to transform Goa into one of the hottest destinations in the World. With Mr. Parrikar in the helm, Goa is certainly in for major development advancements! COMMENTS: Sandeep Heble seems to have analyzed the advantages and the disadvantages of the IFFI to be held permanently in Goa, more so in the City of Panjim and has come to the conclusion that the advantages weigh far more than the disadvantages. And if that is so, then I have no quarrel with him. But I am very uncomfortable with his assessment of Mr. Parrikar when he says " with Mr. Parrikar in the helm, Goa is certainly in for major development advancements" That makes Mr. Parrikar a man with a vision for Goa, the "I KNOW IT ALL" syndrome. We know from history that Adolf Hitler was a man with a vision for Germany. And Germans acknowledged and accepted his leadership that would make Germany the leader of the entire world at whatever cost. But they failed to see that he was consumed with hatred for the Jews. And it took just one man of courage and perseverance in Winston Churchill of Great Britain to break the back of Hitler's Germany along with its Italian and Japanese allies. A leader with a vision must have the people behind him. When it comes to Manohar Parrikar, the only people who are behind him are the people with vested interests and his RSS goons. May it be his few self-centered colleagues in the government or the contractors and government officials with vested interests. But definitely not the people at large. This has been shown through the exercise of the City of Panjim Corporation Bill, Miramar Beach Privatization, Campal trees, and now the IFFI. When a visionary leader fails the people, his and his coterie's fate is marked. The examples are a plenty. Herr Hitler had to shoot himself in the head to disappear from the scene . The bodies of Italy's Benito Mussolini and his mistress Clarette Petacci were hanged and spat on in public square in Milan after their execution. Nicolae Ceausescu of Rumania and his wife Elenor faced a machine gun squad. Ferdinand Marcos of Phillipines had to sneak out like a fatigued dog to an exile in Guam. The latest is Saddam Hussein of Iraq who was fished out of a hole in the ground after his overthrow. This is the ultimate fate of dictators who believe in nothing and everything. Dear Mr. Sandeep Heble, should I continue to name more dictators who have been trampled by the people ??? The IFFI is a 10 day programme in a year of 365 days, and the euphoria surrounding it in a small vested interest's circle versus the prohibiting costs does not justify the ends. Besides, Manohar Parrikar is using the IFFI as an excuse to unleash on Goa the cultural destabilizati
[Goanet]NEW PARTY LAUNCHED TO WIPE OUT CORRUPTION
My response to Mr, SEB,with reference to the above subject. Seb, whether this party was launched on April fool's day or joe has left for a prize is immaterial to me. What made me say YES to this party was, atleast a goan party has been launched to wipe out corruption and for that matter any goan party which has positive goals set in mind, we should support and join such party. I very well remember Rene had once mentioned Let's do something positive, and this is the testing time for Goans who have the ability to unite and contribute in whatever way we can, let's practice what we preach, let's not be mere spectators but forefront runners, forefront leaders, and let's excel for the betterment of the Goans, keeping in mind the next generation and our children who will benefit from all our efforts. Vivek Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY)!
Moronn ani vavr gorchecheo vostu, nhoi vinchun kaddunk zata tosleo (Death and labor are things of necessity and not of choices) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Cow Dung pooh!
COWDUNG HAS MEDICINAL VALUE: Dung of cows of Indian breed not only can be used as organic manure but also has medicinal properties, according to Govindyan Anusandhan Kendra, Nagpur, which is doing intensive research on the subject. Director of the Kendra, Sunil Mansinghak told a press conference in Panjim that there is a high content of medicinal properties in dung of cows of Indian breed and expressed the need to take a patent of the same. (H) RESPONSE: First preference will be given to the Doctors of Goanet. You will be allowed to carry this back with you, without let or hinderance to your foreign distination, for distilation and further refinement. May your patients enjoy good health. cheers, Gabe Menezes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Our Lady of Divar High School, Divar, Goa. ..................."Divar Son of the Soil Project 2004"
Dear Floriano , Please convey my best wishes to the Parents and Teachers' Association of Our Lady of Divar High School, Divar, Goa. ACTION ! That s what we need Is Mario Fernandes involved in this project at all ? Do they have an email address ? Thanks rene barreto www.goaday.com 20.8.2004 -- 0 DIVAR SUMMER CAMP: The students of Our Lady of Divar High School, Divar, are all set to develop their talents with the launch of a summer camp under the banner "Divar Son of the Soil Project 2004" from April 5 to 18. Secretary of the DSE, Fr Tony Salema, will inaugurate the camp on April 5. Organised by the Parents and Teachers' Association of the school with the help of the ex-students and villagers, the camp is divided into four sections-sports, eco, culture and leadership programmes-held between 8 am and 12 noon. During the camp prominent personalities of Goa will share their knowledge on various topics in their field: NIO Director Dr Satish Shetye, cartoonist Alexyz, Sangeeta Naik of Digital Goa, North Goa SDPO Allan D'SA, Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad, SAG Director Dr VM Prabhudesai, Mr Gaonkar from Food and Drugs Administration, Fr Mario Pereira of Pilar, Fr Francis Silveira from Childline, freedom fighter Nagesh Karmali and Director of Alcon Victor Group Victor Albuquerque. (H) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gabechem Chaldean caldinha 2
From: "Dr. José Colaço" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet]Gabechem Chaldean caldinha 2 > > Gabechem Chaldean caldinha 2 > > Gaben boroilem The deities mentioned are B.V.M and J.C. and all those > cherubic angels, as well as Arch angels, Michael the warrior and Gabriel > the messenger.> > > Gabebab..do correct me if I am wrong, but the word deity stands for > "God" . So I do not know how a Michael and a Gabriel (even a Menezes) can be > a deity? RESPONSE: When this thread was started, it was mentioned that deities were depicted in the Indian form. I understood, as I am sure the writer meant 'deities' in a broad sense. If not it would have been simple to just say 'God'. Again we shall be digressing and the thread will keep evolving, as it does on Goanet. In the beginning, Angels were considered almost on par ? This is a religious and theological discussion ani I am not in the least bit qualified to venture into this. I respectfully forward :- Definitions of deity on the Web: any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn. Cheers, Gabe. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]Goanet CyberMatrimonials * April 5, 2004
Goanet C Y B E R - M A T R I M O N I A L S *** LOOKING OUT FOR a life partner? Circulate your message among thousands of Goans for free. For a listing in this column send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subjectline MATRIMONIAL. Respondents are requested to verify details for themselves. We carry, in good faith, details as sent in by our readers. Make sure to include an email address to enable you to get faster responses. Due to an overcluttered mailbox, it is possible that a despatch you sent through may have not got reproduced below. If this is the case, please write in and resend the message. Our apologies. If you'd like to repeat your announcement, feel free to request us to do so. GOAN MALE, 33: Successful professionally. Looking for success in his personal life. Educated in the US. Lived and worked there for several years. Now running successful national company in Africa. Looking for his woman - 27-33 years old. Pretty. Petite. Professionally successful. Enjoys travel and adventure. Please respond by describing yourself, and what you are looking for in a partner and in life. [EMAIL PROTECTED] NORMAL-LOOKING GUY NEEDS LOOKING AFTER: I am an educated Goan 39yrs, 5ft 5, chiselled facial features, athletic body, liberal and living abroad. I would like to meet an educated, slim, fair/bronze complexion Goan female -- to develop a friendship towards romance and committed relationship. Please attach picture. Thanks. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I AM A GOAN male (03-02-1951), divorced through no fault of mine. Height 182 cms, weight 70kgs. Graduate in economics/law (Univ. of Bombay) and philosophy/Spanish (Univ. of Amsterdam). I have a lot of hobbies like cycling, watching fims, sports, Goan cookery (a must), listening to all kinds of music. People who know me say I am too good for this world. I would like to correspond with a lady who has a sense of understanding, and a good conscience. The rest is not so important. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## # Join Goanet, read by 5000+ Goans worldwide, each day: # # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Check archives at http://www.goanet.org (under ARCHIVES) # # Membership FREE. To join, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with# # subjectline reading: JOIN GOANET/DIGEST# ## GOAN CATHOLIC SPINSTER, age 32, Commerce Graduate, height 5.3, works for an private company, slim, God fearing, seeks proposals from educated bachelors, age 32-36, working India/abroad, kindly email [EMAIL PROTECTED] SEEKING A SUITABLE family-oriented Catholic bachelor between 38-45 years for a spinster in a mid-thirties settled in Canada who is smart, responsible and has a zest for life. Must be willing to relocate and have a positive, go getter attitude. Only serious enquiries please: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOOKING FOR A SUITABLE GOAN BACHELOR: Alliance invited from RC Goan Bachelors for Goan spinster 31 years, 5'3", fair complexion. Hailing from a good family,homely, sincere, well educated , employed as a secretary in an airline in Mumbai. Bachelors who are well educated, well placed with sober habits and good family background (31-36 years) from India/Abroad. Please respond with complete details to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOAN CATHOLIC SPINSTER, age 37, Commerce Graduate, height 5.3, slim, God fearing, seeks proposals from educated bachelors, age 37-44, working India/abroad, kindly email [EMAIL PROTECTED] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 4 23:47:34 2004 LOOKING FOR Looking out for a life partner? Circulate your message among thousands of Goans for free. For a listing in this column send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line MATRIMONIAL. Details and current list (2 Mar.) at http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/010642.html And/or you could join Go-an' Connect, "a service beckoning young Goans from the world over to a unique experience of sharing thoughts and forging everlasting friendships, irrespective of geographical distances." Membership is free. The resource has over 1200 members. Take a tour of the site before deciding whether to join. Check it out at http://www.goacom.com/connect/ SEEKING A SUITABLE MATCH for a U.S born 28
Re: [Goanet]Re: Rita ... from 'Amchem Noxib'.
She was staying at Pine Mansion, Dockyard Mazagaon. I heard she now stay at Mazagoan Hill. Fausto - Original Message - From: "Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sarabond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Sarabond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 7:12 PM Subject: [Goanet]Re: Rita ... from 'Amchem Noxib'. > Hi Alfonso, > > As usual, your queries are quite interesting. > Thought to reply to you promptly. > > The real name of the actress is Rita Lobo and she > hailed from Mangalore, Karnataka. And to the best of > my reseach on the Konkani films and tiatrs, this was > the only Konkani film she ever acted. > Will investigate more on the subject as to her present > whereabouts. > > Gaspar Almeida > Associate, www.goa-world.com > > To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > c.c.: gasper almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-April/011752.html > > At 03:29 ã 03/04/2004 +0530, Sarabond wrote: > > Re: Rita ... from 'Amchem Noxib'. > > As a child I had watched this Frank Fernand's konkani > movie " Amchem Noxib" in the cinema hall. There after > I had the opportunity to watch it from video cassettes > several times. I need not say - it is worth watching > it again & again. The movie is really superb keeping > in mind the production was of early 60s. But keeping > everything aside - I am more keen in knowing about the > Heroine called Rita. She has never acted before doing > this vintage movie nor was she seen thereafter on > Konkani stage. Could anyone throw more light on this > sensational find of Frank Fernandes. As to where was > she from (Goa/Bombay)? > What is her real name? And where does she resides > now?? etc. etc. > > - Alfonso Bond Braganza > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # > ## > ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]The Blessings of Reserved Forests
Dear Lt.Gen[Retd] JFR Jacob, Thank you for the posting of 31 March[ graciously placed on Goanet by Bosco]. The Madei and Netravali Reserved Forests that you helped preserve for Goa now and for the posterity are still in one piece,though under constant threat. Man's greed has helped him overcome even his fears. We live as if there is no Tomorrow. Once in a while comes a man like you and brings somes sense to the way things are ordered around us. Thank you. We have to thank the Supreme Court for upholding the Right...and the rights of the people of Goa to the Green Heritage of the Sahayadri Range and the vegetation therein; to the clear water from this forested areas that sustain life even in far away Panaji, to the coolness they give the region, to the livelihoods[even through tourism] that these forests sustain. Tourists come to admire Goa's Natural beauty..the beauty of these trees, the birds and beasts they sustain. I have not heard of tourists coming to see our open cast mines. I have not heard of the mine owners distributing their wealth as the forests do. Minining will not even sustain the mine owners in the coming generations. Yet our so-called 'leaders' are willing to sacrifice everything for a quick buck as would the Romans who robbed Lebanon of the Cedars and made it a desolate desert. Thank you for being there when the Forests needed you most, when we needed you. May the Lord bless you and keep you in Good health. Generations to come will admire the forests in Goa because you saved them from the axe, ripper, bulldozers and shovels. They may not hear about you or even know your name. They will be grateful that the trees are there! with fond regards, Miguel Braganza P.S. I am marking a copy to the Mail List of the Botanical Society of Goa, the Goa Foundation;CM and the Forest Department-Goa. In the BSG we remember you with pride. Here was a man amongst us who had the courage to do what was right. Bravo. There is no PVSM or Ashok Chakra for such an act of bravery and gallantry...simply because no human award is enough! You did it for us. Thank you. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Nuvem case results in warning to dog owners
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- --- Dog owners warned over 'wild' pets --- Dog owners beware! If your dog has turned dangerous or unruly, causing nuisance to the neighbourhood, ensure it is tamed immediately or else run the risk of the canine being taken away by the authorities. In an unprecedented order, the Sub-divisional Magistrate, Margao, Dipak Dessai has ordered a resident of Belloi-Nuvem to hand over his "unruly" dogs to the Animal Husbandry department or the Goa Animal Welfare Trust or simply remove the dogs from the locality by any other means within 7 days. The police would then step in the event the order is not complied with. In this case, the Maina Curtorim police had lodged a complaint stating that one Punit Prasad Jain owns and possesses eight alleged dangerous dogs of hybrid varieties, without obtaining the licence from any authority. The police alleged that all these dogs are ferocious/ dangerous and that the owner has no control over them, resulting in dog bites to the neighbours, passer-byes and children. Besides, the police alleged that the dogs have the habit of howling in a loud and frightful manner every night, disturbing peace and tranquillity in the area. In his reply, Jain termed the police report as false, mischievous and malicious. He denied that the dogs are causing any noise or that they disturb the peace in the neighbourhood and that they are ferocious. In his order issued under section 133 of the CrPC, the SDB maintained that the dogs belonging to Jain have created a terror in the vicinity thus endangering the life of the people. "The physical comfort of the residents in the vicinity of Jain's house has also been disturbed as fear has gripped the people from using the road in front of his house", Dessai said. "No doubt, dogs are domestic animals, but at times, they can be ferocious which can be perilious to the life of common man", he said, adding that every person in a civilised society enjoys a constitutional right to his life and liberty and that it's the duty of the state to protect the rights. "Merely because the owner is a professional dog trainer as stated by a witness, it doesn't empower him to play with the lives of a dozen people, when he has no control over them", he said. The SDM further observed that had the owner been cautious and diligent, then no person would have ever suffered injuries of serious nature as has been with one person, and added that the entire evidence goes to prove beyond doubt that the dogs of the respondent are dangerous in nature which are detrimental to the life of the inhabitants in the locality. --- HERALD 3/4/04 page 1 --- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goanet CyberMatrimonials * April 5, 2004
Goanet C Y B E R - M A T R I M O N I A L S *** LOOKING OUT FOR a life partner? Circulate your message among thousands of Goans for free. For a listing in this column send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subjectline MATRIMONIAL. Respondents are requested to verify details for themselves. We carry, in good faith, details as sent in by our readers. Make sure to include an email address to enable you to get faster responses. Due to an overcluttered mailbox, it is possible that a despatch you sent through may have not got reproduced below. If this is the case, please write in and resend the message. Our apologies. If you'd like to repeat your announcement, feel free to request us to do so. GOAN MALE, 33: Successful professionally. Looking for success in his personal life. Educated in the US. Lived and worked there for several years. Now running successful national company in Africa. Looking for his woman - 27-33 years old. Pretty. Petite. Professionally successful. Enjoys travel and adventure. Please respond by describing yourself, and what you are looking for in a partner and in life. [EMAIL PROTECTED] NORMAL-LOOKING GUY NEEDS LOOKING AFTER: I am an educated Goan 39yrs, 5ft 5, chiselled facial features, athletic body, liberal and living abroad. I would like to meet an educated, slim, fair/bronze complexion Goan female -- to develop a friendship towards romance and committed relationship. Please attach picture. Thanks. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I AM A GOAN male (03-02-1951), divorced through no fault of mine. Height 182 cms, weight 70kgs. Graduate in economics/law (Univ. of Bombay) and philosophy/Spanish (Univ. of Amsterdam). I have a lot of hobbies like cycling, watching fims, sports, Goan cookery (a must), listening to all kinds of music. People who know me say I am too good for this world. I would like to correspond with a lady who has a sense of understanding, and a good conscience. The rest is not so important. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## # Join Goanet, read by 5000+ Goans worldwide, each day: # # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Check archives at http://www.goanet.org (under ARCHIVES) # # Membership FREE. To join, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with# # subjectline reading: JOIN GOANET/DIGEST# ## GOAN CATHOLIC SPINSTER, age 32, Commerce Graduate, height 5.3, works for an private company, slim, God fearing, seeks proposals from educated bachelors, age 32-36, working India/abroad, kindly email [EMAIL PROTECTED] SEEKING A SUITABLE family-oriented Catholic bachelor between 38-45 years for a spinster in a mid-thirties settled in Canada who is smart, responsible and has a zest for life. Must be willing to relocate and have a positive, go getter attitude. Only serious enquiries please: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOOKING FOR A SUITABLE GOAN BACHELOR: Alliance invited from RC Goan Bachelors for Goan spinster 31 years, 5'3", fair complexion. Hailing from a good family,homely, sincere, well educated , employed as a secretary in an airline in Mumbai. Bachelors who are well educated, well placed with sober habits and good family background (31-36 years) from India/Abroad. Please respond with complete details to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOAN CATHOLIC SPINSTER, age 37, Commerce Graduate, height 5.3, slim, God fearing, seeks proposals from educated bachelors, age 37-44, working India/abroad, kindly email [EMAIL PROTECTED] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 4 23:47:34 2004 LOOKING FOR Looking out for a life partner? Circulate your message among thousands of Goans for free. For a listing in this column send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line MATRIMONIAL. Details and current list (2 Mar.) at http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/010642.html And/or you could join Go-an' Connect, "a service beckoning young Goans from the world over to a unique experience of sharing thoughts and forging everlasting friendships, irrespective of geographical distances." Membership is free. The resource has over 1200 members. Take a tour of the site before deciding whether to join. Check it out at http://www.goacom.com/connect/ SEEKING A SUITABLE MATCH for a U.S born 28
RE: [Goanet]Birthdays on 5th Apr 2004
Wishing you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to 05-Apr Maria Valerie RodriguesMargao/Abu Dhabi (Special B'day wishes to you from your Husband:Wilmarco Rodrigues) Thanks, Vincente. Please do notify if your e-mail address has been changed, for cc'ing B'day wished to your e-mail address. NOTE: Please send your Birthday's details for those who haven't done so far to the following e-mail address([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with subject as Birthday/Birthday details as per below format. Birth Day/Month NameBirth/Current Place _ Tax headache? MSN Money provides relief with tax tips, tools, IRS forms and more! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/workshop/welcome.asp ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Pre-1961 Cars.
Hi Valmiki, Why the surprise ? Dont you know of the car scene in Goa in 1961 - 1962 ? Also pre & post ? Similar for the rest of India post 1947 - 50. Hindustan Moters, Fiat etc. produced the same year after year - so there was nothing unique (special) about them. But the pre 1961 / 1947 cars are rare, valuable, antique & unique as a group for India. Have you seen a Hindustan Landmaster ? (pre Ambassador) It could qualify as an antique - post 1950 in its own right. Here in Macau antique cars are too valuable to race (rally) about, so they are driven at a slow pace at the Grand Prix track for exhibition. Glad to hear of Mr.Naik's efforts to make the rally a success. Cheers then1 Terry From: Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet]Pre-1961 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:26:29 +0530 It may warm the cockles of Ole Xac's heart to learn that the cut-off year for the Vintage Car Rally held at Margao yesterday was 1961. Why 1961 and not 1930, 1940, 1950 or even 1960, one may ask. Main organizer of the rally was a grandson of the redoubtable late Narcinv Naique, Goa's leading automobile dealer in pre- and post-1961 years and founder Vice-President of the defunct United Goans Party. The rally was a success by all accounts. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Vintage Car Rally
Any pictures from the Vintage Car Rally in Margao? I'd be really interested to see them. When I used to visit Goa on vacation in the late seventies and early eighties, I often saw the old vintage Impalas being used as taxicabs. Have not seen them lately. Did they turn into old rustbuckets? Parts not available anymore? What happened to them? Dan Soares NY ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]10 Questions- Cecil Pinto on 'Child Naming Patterns among Goan Catholics'
10 Questions by Ree Coh Professor Cecil Pinto is interviewed by world famous journalist Ree Coh. Professor Pinto, is a Ph.D and has been twice awarded the Adha Shri for his contributions in the field of Literature by President Pandurang of the Independent Republic of Chimbel. Currently officiating as the V-i-c-e Chancellor at Chimbel University, Professor Pinto is a prolific writer with many well researched books to his credit. His next book is titled 'Child Naming Conventions of Goan Catholics'. Ree Coh met Cecil in a rather lucid moment at his rented apartment in Panjim. After a few rounds of drinks the interview begins. --- RC: What made you choose this rather unconventional topic for your next book? CP: You see I have always been interested in proper names. My earlier book, "Business Names in Goa and their Origins" was rejected by the publishers because a lot of big companies currently operating in Goa do not want their rather mediocre origins to be exposed. And they had enough muscle and money to silence the publishers. I have written to President Pandurang who has promised to intervene in the matter. RC: Why did you study Goan Catholics only and not the Goan Hindus? CP: You see Rico. Can I call you Rico? The Goan Hindu has always followed cultural convention while naming their children. There has been little or no variance over the centuries. The Goan Catholics on the other hand shows interesting discernible waves and patterns which can be scientifically enumerated and categorised. RC: Any particular reason for this strange Goan Catholic trait? CP: To fully understand this Rico, you must understand how the Goan Catholic ethos has evolved over the millennia. We have to examine their culture right from pre-historic times. Let me briefly bring you to the present by demystifying a few myths which have crept into our understanding of the Goan psyche. Incidentally all this is clearly explained in one of my earlier books "Goa - A Concise History" Firstly, let us examine the legend of the 'creation' of Goa. According to the Vedas, Lord Saptoshwar threw a trident into the Arabian Sea, hoping to catch the equally mythical Goan Crabs. The trident missed its mark and landed in interior North Karnataka, close to where the Dupont Nylon 66 plant is currently situated. Three clumps of earth thus shot up from the ground and landed near the Arabian Sea. Lord Saptoshwar immediately christened them Govapuri, Bhajipuri and Shrikandpuri. These were later re-christened by the Portuguese as Goa, Daman and Diu. Now this is the legend we have been telling our children for so many generations. But this is absolutely false. I have done some digging in my hometown, Aldona, and found a diety-like oblong object that I got carbon dated and found that it predates even Lord Saptoshwar. It goes way back to 3246 B.C. I even tried to get a photo of this diety-like object published in The Chimbel Times, but the newspaper rejected my submission. In fact the Features Editor told me that 'Papayas that are shaped like dieties are news, but dieties shaped like papayas don't sell". Imagine this man's ignorance of our history and culture! RC: Coming back to your thesis about naming patterns among Goan Catholics... CP: One minute. I was explaining the cultural ethos of Goan Catholics. See our history books tell us that Goa was once the 'Kashi of the Konkan' before it became the 'Rome of the East'. This is another example of a warped understanding created by our language diversiity. It was just a typo in the original transalation from the Gopi Script. It was not 'Kashi' it was 'kashti'. This is a loin cloth worn by... RC: Are'nt we digressing a bit, we were supposed to discuss your thesis.. CP: Yes I am coming to that. Let me just rush you through the history part. Lots is said about the Kadamba Era. Now you tell me what did the Kadambas do for Goa? All they did was provide employment. Conductors, drivers, mechanics etc. And for that matter the Portuguese? The old timers say that they introduced us to western concepts and the printing press. This is a lie. All they did was introduce superior distillation techniques that make our country liquor better than any other country's liquor. Did you know for example that the Coconut Tree is not native to Goa and was brought here by Marco Polo in 2232 B.C. along with Polo Shirts, Polo Mints and Water Polo? Not many people know this. Read my book. RC: Ok! Ok! I believe you. Now can we start on the topic of Child Naming? CP: Wasn't that what we were discussing all this while? I know you want to restrict yourself to only 10 questions but that is your problem, not mine. So where was I? The Portuguese. Before the Portuguese arrived the Goan Catholics had no proper names. They just used to call each other 'Bhau' and 'Bai' and 'Guru' and stuff like that. In fact before the Portuguese arrived there were not many Catholics in Goa.
[Goanet]Vivian D'souza - Maddiem
Vivian, That's a very sweet gesture and I appreciate it. It might turn out to be more trouble than you anticipated and I would understand completely if you couldn't do it . Regards, Dan ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Announcing a new party!!
Hi Goanetters Read something about a new party on Goanet. Well! Around this time the only party that makes sense to Goans is an Urak party. Urak Party (free) on 11 April (Easter). Interested report at Galgibaga beach (behind the church) on 11 after mid night mass. (Galgibaga is in Canacona. If you didn't know that after one murder, the shacks controversy and the turtle ridleys than be sure you have rocks in the head bigger than the ones on the either extremes of the Galgibaga beach.) Urak is free all right. But do come with your own chouris pav or pea nuts whatever you prefer with urak. Cheers!! Tony Martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Victor Rangel-Ribeiro & Gummot
Victor.. wow... another Gummot in the USA and that one in NY too. What are the odds eh? I would love to get together with you and your family sometime. We live on Long Island if you would like to visit someday. Perhaps a jam session with our Gummots? :-) Dan NY 631.444.9655 (work) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Vintage Car Rally
Hi Valmiki, I was very keen to witness this Vintage Car Rally held on 4th April in Margao. But it did not happen as I was pre-occupied with my routine work here in Mapusa. Although you have not said it, most of the local dailies here has credited that this car rally was the FIRST OF ITS KIND IN GOA. Here is... just for your and our netters information that the First Vintage Car Rally was held in Mapusa in the early 80s (Can give you the exact date later). It was held on the eve of the Milagres feast day. The main organizers were Hemant Barros, Ubaldo Braganza, late Joe Almeida, Diogo Sequiera and myself under the banner called "ZEST AFFAIR".. The rally started from St. Joseph's chapel near Mapusa Police station was made to climb the Municipal Building slope to go to Altinho and wound up at Municipal garden for prize distribution. We kept the route very short so as to enable the old royals have a decent drive without break down. Some cars from Margao ( from Naiks and the Azavedos) did come but they reach only after the rally was over. Beside cash prizes we had offered 5 liters of free petrol to every participating vehicle courtesy the local dealers. The press did give us good coverage specially the marathi Nav Prabha who gave a half page in their Sunday Magazine. Thank you. -Alfonso Bond Braganza. Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:26:29 +0530 From: Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet]Pre-1961 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may warm the cockles of Ole Xac's heart to learn that the cut-off year for the Vintage Car Rally held at Margao yesterday was 1961. Why 1961 and not 1930, 1940, 1950 or even 1960, one may ask. Main organizer of the rally was a grandson of the redoubtable late Narcinv Naique, Goa's leading automobile dealer in pre- and post-1961 years and founder Vice-President of the defunct United Goans Party. The rally was a success by all accounts. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Who was Jesus?
Who was he? There were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Black: 1. He called everyone "brother" 2. He liked Gospel 3. He couldn't get a fair trial. But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish 1. He went into His Father's business. 2. He lived at home until he was 33. 3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his mother was sure he was God. But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian: 1. He talked with his hands. 2. He had wine with every meal. 3. He used olive oil. But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian: 1. He never cut his hair. 2. He walked around barefoot all the time. 3. He started a new religion. But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish: 1. He never got married. 2. He was always telling stories. 3. He loved green pastures. But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman: 1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food. 2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it. 3. Even when he was dead, He had to get up because there was more work for him to do. Source of the the last "compelling evidence" . . . . could it be a woman? Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]G.O.A. SOCCER DRAW.
G.O.A. TROPHY DRAW IN KUWAIT. The draw for the 11th edition of G.O.A. Rolling Trophy tournament was held today Monday 5th April at 8.00 p.m., at Village Inn Restaurant with the attendance of the participating club representatives and special invitees. Normally G.O.A. since last few years are organizing their tournament at Kheitan Stadium but this time due to some difficulties they will not be able to have it at the stadium and instead it will be held at both the Sour Grounds A & B. Total Number of teams participating in this years edition will be 12 and they are splitted into two segments. Segment one will consist of Navelim Youth, CRC Chinchinnim, Bombay Boys, United Friend Club, Curtorcares and Kerala Challengers while segment two comprises AVC, Jai Hind, Santos, Rising Stars, UG and G.O.A. Maroons. The first match of the tournament will be played on 16th at Ground A at 6.45 between CRC Chinchinnim and Bombay Boys and simultaneously at Ground B at Ground B Jai Hind will face Santos FC. All the matches will be supervised by the umpires drawn from KIFF Referees Body. The tournament will last for about one month approximately and final will be played on 14th May. This edition will be sponsored by Bassem Trading Co. W.L.L. whose managing director Mr. Charles DSa is a staunch supporter of Sports in general and soccer in particular even though he was once a very good Cricketer during his younger days. Mr. Charles besides involving himself in the promotion of sporting activities where he was inducted by Raymond DSa the president of Goan Overseas Association, is also very active in many of the social and charitable activities thru Kuwait Canara Welfare Association and other outlets. The actual draw lasted for about 30 minutes where G.O.A. Sports Secretary Clifford conducted the draw and Julio Cardoso compeered the proceedings. Chief Guest of the function Mr. Charles DSa lauded the efforts of G.O.A. in organizing such tournaments and giving the youth one more opportunity to display their talents and prowess while the president of G.O.A. Raymond DSa in his short speech thanked every one for joining G.O.A. in this tournament. He very philosophically and of course rightly remarked Let Sour Grounds be the venue of inculcating friendship and spreading goodwill amongst all. Let this be the motto of everyone. Tony Correia the president of Kuwait Indian Foot-ball Federation and a part of G.O.A. proposed the vote of thanks. Goan Overseas Association (G.O.A.) was established in 1980 a year after the establishment of our soccer activities at Sour Grounds by UG. Since the formation of G.O.A. it has always maintained its grandeur and G.O.A. Rolling Trophy tournament is one of the prestigious tournaments amongst Indians in Kuwait. G.O.A. soccer team Maroons is one of the best amongst the expatriates in Kuwait having unique distinction of demolishing the might of Hubara and other top Clubs fielding some of the best European players and thus winning the Forest of Dean R.A. Trophy some years back at Ahmadi, Kuwait. G.O.A. Maroons has created lot of ripples and the current members who are running the show of their team on and off the field must work hard to maintain the pristine greatness of their activities. When it was formed in 1980, G.O.A. Maroons was not only a team but it was a powerhouse having finest footballers in its rank. G.O.A. was formed by great stalwarts namely Peter DSouza, Domnick Correia, Assumption DSa, Raymond DSa, John Felix DSouza, Pascoal Soares, the late Gabriel Soares, Messias Barreto and A. V. Fernandes. Many of the founders are not in Kuwait now but the major credit should go to both the DSa brothers Raymond and Assumption for overcoming all the hurdles and keeping G.O.A. function beautifully. Those new later-on entrants into G.O.A. who are also doing so much for the promotion of G.O.A. deserve compliments too. The soccer activities of Indians at Sour Grounds are conducted under the supervision of Kuwait Indian Foot-ball Federation. Annually, 4 major 11-A-Side tournaments are organized; one of Navelim, the other of G.O.A., the third of UG and the fourth of Rising Stars (Youth Recreation Centre) while 5 are 7-A-Side tournaments; 1st by Santos, 2nd by AVC, 3rd by UFC, 4th by Curtorcares and the 5th by Bombay Boys. CRC Chinchinnim organizes their 9-A-Side tournament. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone poli
[Goanet]The Nairobi Institute Centenary Website
oo The Centenary Celebrations Committee has been launched to provide you with all the necessary information for June 11, 2005. The website name is www.nicentenary.com and will updated on a weekly basis. Please forward the website details to as many interested parties as you know. Best Regards The Centenary Celebrations Committee 00 Fwd: rene barreto WORLD GOA DAY 20th August 2004. www.goaday.com 000 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Jewish remains give clues on crucifixion - Mon 05 April, 2004 02:29 AM
Reuters News ArticleAs it is Holy week, Please reflect:- Jewish remains give clues on crucifixion Mon 05 April, 2004 02:29 AM By Megan Goldin JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The graphic portrayal of the crucifixion of Jesus in Mel Gibson's film "The Passion of the Christ" has brought the ancient world's execution method of choice in all its horror to the big screen. Jesus is the best known victim of crucifixion. But thousands of other Jews were put to death on the cross by the Romans, trying to quash Jewish rebellions in the Holy Land in the first century. Yet strangely the remains of only one victim have ever been found. He was Yehohanan Ben Hagkol, a Jewish man whose heel bone, excavated by archaeologists near Jerusalem in 1968, still had a nail embedded in it. "It is the only case ever found in the world where there is indisputable evidence of crucifixion," said Joe Zias, a physical anthropologist who examined the remains of Yehohanan Ben Hagkol. "We've looked at thousands of skeletons in Jerusalem. Some were decapitated. Others were mutilated. But we've never found another one that was crucified." "It has to be one of the most obscene forms of death ever invented by man," said Zias of the execution method practiced between 400 BC and AD 400 also by the Persians, Greeks, Assyrians, Carthaginians and other ancient civilisations. Professor Martin Hengel, a leading scholar of crucifixions from Tubingen University in Germany, said thousands of captured Jewish rebels were crucified by the Romans around Jerusalem during the first century, when Jesus lived. Crosses dotted the landscape around the city. Zias said that between AD 66 and 702, the Romans at times crucified as many as 500 Jews a day until they quashed what became known as the first Jewish revolt and destroyed the Second Temple. "Eventually they ran out of crosses and they ran out of space," he said. THE CRUCIFIED MAN Not much is known about Yehohanan Ben Hagkol, whose name in English means John, son of Hagkol. The name was carved in ancient Hebrew letters on an ossuary containing his bones in a tomb north of Jerusalem's Old City in 1968. At the time of his death he was between 24 and 28 years old, stood around five feet seven inches tall (170 cm) and was in excellent health -- until he was hoisted on to a cross some time between AD 50 and 70. "He could have been a thief, he could have been a rebel. To his nation he may have been a hero," said archaeologist Vassilios Tzaferias, who discovered Ben Hagkol's remains during the excavation of an ancient Jewish family tomb. The state of the skeletons in the tomb bore testimony to the turbulent times in which the Jews of Jerusalem lived in the first century. Nine of the 35 people buried there had met violent deaths. Others had died of starvation. When Ben Hagkol's remains were examined, archaeologists noticed the nail piercing what remained of the heel bone. Archaeologists believe they have not uncovered other physical evidence of crucifixion because victims were sometimes tied rather than nailed to the cross and the corpses were often thrown onto garbage dumps where animals would feed off them. Nails of the crucified were also in high demand. People regarded them as powerful amulets that could ward off evil, so they would remove them from the bodies of victims. In Ben Hagkol's case, the nail hammered through his heel bone had bent after catching in a knot of wood and relatives who retrieved his body would have been unable to remove it. NAILED TO THE CROSS As shown in graphic detail in Gibson's film, victims were often brutally beaten with whips of leather and metal before being taken to the cross. Their hands were then either tied or nailed to the horizontal bar of the cross. They were stripped naked, strung up and left, sometimes for days, until they died. "It was used because it was so appalling. It was very painful and everybody could see the suffering. It must have been very humiliating too, hanging naked at the cross," Hengel said. Gibson's film shows Jesus being hammered to the cross through his hands, in line with the traditional view depicted in religious icons and paintings since the Middle Ages. Zias said this reflects theology rather than reality. Jesus, like other victims of crucifixion, would either have had his hands tied to the cross, or been nailed through the wrist. "You cannot crucify a person through the hands because there is nothing there but skin and muscle. It will tear. It has to be done through the wrists," Zias said. Death could be relatively quick, within 10 minutes, for those whose hands were tied or nailed directly above their heads and whose feet were restrained too. A person crucified in this position would be unable to exhale, Zias said. This apparently was not the case with Jesus' crucifixion since the Gospels say it took several hours for him to die, Zias said. "The body goes into shock and then you die from shock. You can keep a person up there for hours or you can keep a
[Goanet]TidBits - GAG or CAG??
TidBits - GAG or CAG ?? *** Have you heard of the "All Goa C A G" ? GAG? who is being gagged? Not Gag silly. Cag, it is. Well, I don't know of any cag who is an all round Goan. So fill me in quick and don't waste my time. I don't like suspenses. In that case, how about IFFI? Have you heard of IFFI? Sure, Isn't it the debris collected out of the demolition of the once upon a time Campal football stadium and some old hospitals nearby or something? Where did you pick that one up? Debris? No, the thing about demolition of the stadium and old hospitals. Its all over the newspapers, the net, man!. Some ex-footballers who played on this ground were travelling in the bus I was travelling in. And oh my ! Were they sore about the whole thing? Someone even pushed a leaflet in my hands at Panjim Kadamba bus stand. So what has this cag thing got to do with IFFI? Don't Goans like to have modern football, hockey and athletic stadiums and modern hospitals? Sure we can do with some. But they only exist in the manifestoes of political parties until they win the elections. IFFI has nothing to do with debris. It is the acronym for International Film Festival of India. A crony of the IFFI? You mean blue films? Blue films? Who is saying IFFI has anything to do with blue films, silly?. There will be films of all colours, like white films from Europe, Black from Africa, Yellow from Japan, red from the US of A etc and technicolour from places like Brazil, Phillipines, India etc. And no blue films? No blue films. In Goa we only make them. In Miramar, in star hotels, through hidden cameras, unknown to the guests with a lightly laced coke, or a pepsi or a sand piper with a dolphin or whatever. A dolphin, a sand piper? That too in a coke, a pepsi? You must be out -a-ya- mind. You mean to say in Miramar you have actual dolphins? Oh! come on! I am not talking of dolphins that jump in the sea. I am talking about little dolphins that slip silently to the bottom of the coke bottle when you least notice it, and if you are a girl, especially.. Never mind all that now. You will know better when you get around. Coming back to your first question, what is CAG supposed to mean? Well, we have all sorts of citizen's groups in Goa. But this is a new one, specially designed so that citizens can spit out what is being forcefully thrust down their throats, the IFFI. Cag stands for "Citizen's Action Group" So what is the plan? CAG will assemble at the Ferry Wharf in Panjim at 10 00 hours on Wednesday the 7th. of April, 2004 in great numbers. And that will be like a side-show only. The real show will come later. You mean only the Panjimites? No, silly, it is All Goa CAG. Not only Panjimites but Goans all over the State. And do what? Burn the CM or something? I mean, the CM's effigy, like they burnt the effigy of Christ in some Northern or Eastern State, recently? And cause pollution? No Sir, thank you. Sanathan Saunstha would object to it vociferously. In Goa we don't believe in burning effy's, sorry effigies. We only burn plastics and garbage. And sometimes we burn shacks on the beaches. That is allowed you know? if you are a minister, that is. Minister of the Church? No, silly. Minister in the Manohar Parrikar Government. In Delhi? They have beaches and shacks in Delhi? Oh! Pho! You are miserable with your Geography. Delhi has no beaches, and therefore, no shacks. Only Vajpayee's Government which is run by Advani. We are talking of Manohar Parrikar who is the CM of Goa and related to Advani. Not literally, but through the brotherhood of RSS. And in his government, his ministers can do what they like. They can burn beach shacks, and have the police sleep over the case files until the High Court is woken up, they can slap Directors of departments until they fall down, if they don't obey orders. And it takes the CM to apologize for the behavior of his ministers. They can threaten to resign just to get tickled to see the CM fall to their feet, begging not to ... whatever. Sounds interesting. Is there any chance that I could become a minister in the government of Goa? I would love to. Whatever the cost. Why only Goa? You can become a minister in Delhi. You have just 2 days to file your nomination papers for either one of the Constituencies. The general elections are on, to select a government in Delhi, you know? Then you purchase all the other candidates in your constituency, for cash down payment, to withdraw their candidature. You get elected unopposed on May 10. That is if you have crows, sorry, crores in your bags. Then you take this stupid IFFI and dump it in the Mandovi river as a payment to me for my excellent advice 'how to become a minister' in Delhi..Dumping to sink IFFI that is, and not to keep it floating. Because, if it floats in the Mandovi, you will have done just the thing that Manohar Parrikar wanted to do at one time. Then use your Delhi MPLADs to rebuild the Campal football stadium in styl
[Goanet]Re: Pre-1961 (and Ole Xac)
Does he have a heart? I thought he lost it in 1961... PS: Sorry Ole Xac, whoever you might be. I just couldn't resist this one. But then, you've been having a lot of fun at our cost, innit? >From: Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Goanet]Pre-1961 >It may warm the cockles of Ole Xac's heart to learn >that the cut-off year for the Vintage Car Rally held at >Margao yesterday was 1961. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]2#MINUTE#REVIEWS: Music ...from the pen of a priest
2#MINUTE#REVIEWS: Music ...from the pen of a priest SOME OF THE most interesting publications from Goa lie unnoticed on bookshelves. Hopefully, one will be wrong here This book under review comes from the musically-oriented Pilar priest Peter Cardoso. It reflects an attempt at helping youngsters to take to a field Goans have long been considered good at -- music. His explanation: "It is an interesting and well-known fact that the organ and guitar have contributed immensely in generating interest in what we may call 'home entertainment music'. The reason for this situation might well be that these instruments tend themselves to the easy learning of entertainment music, much more than any other instruments. "In particular, the beautiful and almost unlimited range of tone qualities and its sustained tone power, makes the organ an ideal medium for the amateur musician and even for the non-musician." So, in a simple and unpretentious way -- there isn't even an introduction to the man that is Fr Peter, apart from a mug-shot -- this book, or booklet as you could call it, goes about giving an one-page 'introduction to the organ' and another page to the guitar. >From then on, comes the meat of the book -- some 109 lyrics and music of popular songs that have been long sung by Goan communities everywhere. Besides 20th century all-time favourites, also included are Konkani lyrics like Bokddeam-Rakhnneachem Git (based, strangely enough, on a Rhumba), the Bombay Meri Hai (recently reproduced in Jerry Pinto & Naresh Fernandes' anthology on Mumbai city; BMH has been done in Dekhnni style according to Fr Peter), the Portuguese polka-medley Cadiza-Za, the Konkani Beguine devoted to 'Calangute' (a hippy haunt in the 'sixties when we were growing up... our elders cautioned against seeing the wrong thing; now a concrete jungle which emanates the wrong kind of whiff, according to environmentalists). Then, there's that unofficial Goan expat almost-anthem, Hanv Saiba Poltoddi Vetam (based on the Kehorva, an Indian beat), and the corridinho Malhao, the Mollbailo Dou (coming in a slow-rock format). To Goaphiles interested in Konkani, there's also the Fox-Trot based Poixilea Desantle, Sobit Amchem Goy (Waltz), Sobit Udentech Polongar (manddo), Suria Kupant Dhamplo (manddo), Tarka, Ie, Begin, Begin (Rhumba), and Undir Mhojea Mama (Dekhnni). This book also includes a few popular Bollywood numbers of the yesteryears. Goans -- of both Hindu and Catholic backgrounds -- did play a big role in shaping this synthesis of musical traditions that is now part of the Indian film culture, and has probably influenced Indipop and beyond. To get a taste of what the book contains, here's an extract: Gm D7 Gm Hanv saiba poltoddi vetam, D7Gm Damulea lagnak(u) vetam; D7 Mhaka saiba vatt(u) dakhoi, Gm Mhaka saiba vatt(u) kollona. G D7 Damulea mattvant(u) GD7G Kolvontancho khell(u) G D7 Damulea mattvant(u) G D7 G Kolvontacho khell(u) ... One's regret is that one hasn't yet got a chance to get to know better this priest from the heart of Tiswadi/Ilhas, who is devoting his time and energy at building musical talent there. Our only encounter was a hurried run-into while doing some photography at Pilar's recent Konkani opera (on Fr Agnelo) and another hasty meet during the interval of a college concert, which the priest was lending his musical support to. If it wasn't for e-mail, and the young Peter C Raposo, another editor-priest from IXTT one wouldn't have seen this book or got to know more about the work at Pilar. A book of this kind could obviously do better at the hands of a more knowledgeable reviewer... Anyway, treat this just as an attempt to share what one came across. FN --- Title; Golden Hits Author: Fr Peter Cardoso sfx Publ: Self-published, Pilar 2003 (?) Pages: 80 Price: Not mentioned --- Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 Email fred at bytesforall.org Writing with a difference .. on what makes *the* difference http://www.bytesforall.org --- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html --- ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EM
[Goanet]RE: Cow Dung Pooh
(Gabe Menezes wrote: First preference will be given to the Doctors of Goanet. You will be allowed to carry this (cow dung) back with you, without let or hinderance to your foreign distination, for distilation and further refinement. May your patients enjoy good health!) A good one, Mr Menezes! These days you're growing really witty. I would like to add that doctors in the Caribbean region can also try it on themselves to improve their sense of humour and general well-being. Cheers, RKN _ News, views and gossip. Hot downloads n previews. http://www.msn.co.in/Cinema/ Get it all at MSN Cinema! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]2#MINUTE#REVIEWS: Music ...from the pen of a priest
2#MINUTE#REVIEWS: Music ...from the pen of a priest SOME OF THE most interesting publications from Goa lie unnoticed on bookshelves. Hopefully, one will be wrong here This book under review comes from the musically-oriented Pilar priest Peter Cardoso. It reflects an attempt at helping youngsters to take to a field Goans have long been considered good at -- music. His explanation: "It is an interesting and well-known fact that the organ and guitar have contributed immensely in generating interest in what we may call 'home entertainment music'. The reason for this situation might well be that these instruments tend themselves to the easy learning of entertainment music, much more than any other instruments. "In particular, the beautiful and almost unlimited range of tone qualities and its sustained tone power, makes the organ an ideal medium for the amateur musician and even for the non-musician." So, in a simple and unpretentious way -- there isn't even an introduction to the man that is Fr Peter, apart from a mug-shot -- this book, or booklet as you could call it, goes about giving an one-page 'introduction to the organ' and another page to the guitar. >From then on, comes the meat of the book -- some 109 lyrics and music of popular songs that have been long sung by Goan communities everywhere. Besides 20th century all-time favourites, also included are Konkani lyrics like Bokddeam-Rakhnneachem Git (based, strangely enough, on a Rhumba), the Bombay Meri Hai (recently reproduced in Jerry Pinto & Naresh Fernandes' anthology on Mumbai city; BMH has been done in Dekhnni style according to Fr Peter), the Portuguese polka-medley Cadiza-Za, the Konkani Beguine devoted to 'Calangute' (a hippy haunt in the 'sixties when we were growing up... our elders cautioned against seeing the wrong thing; now a concrete jungle which emanates the wrong kind of whiff, according to environmentalists). Then, there's that unofficial Goan expat almost-anthem, Hanv Saiba Poltoddi Vetam (based on the Kehorva, an Indian beat), and the corridinho Malhao, the Mollbailo Dou (coming in a slow-rock format). To Goaphiles interested in Konkani, there's also the Fox-Trot based Poixilea Desantle, Sobit Amchem Goy (Waltz), Sobit Udentech Polongar (manddo), Suria Kupant Dhamplo (manddo), Tarka, Ie, Begin, Begin (Rhumba), and Undir Mhojea Mama (Dekhnni). This book also includes a few popular Bollywood numbers of the yesteryears. Goans -- of both Hindu and Catholic backgrounds -- did play a big role in shaping this synthesis of musical traditions that is now part of the Indian film culture, and has probably influenced Indipop and beyond. To get a taste of what the book contains, here's an extract: Gm D7 Gm Hanv saiba poltoddi vetam, D7Gm Damulea lagnak(u) vetam; D7 Mhaka saiba vatt(u) dakhoi, Gm Mhaka saiba vatt(u) kollona. G D7 Damulea mattvant(u) GD7G Kolvontancho khell(u) G D7 Damulea mattvant(u) G D7 G Kolvontacho khell(u) ... One's regret is that one hasn't yet got a chance to get to know better this priest from the heart of Tiswadi/Ilhas, who is devoting his time and energy at building musical talent there. Our only encounter was a hurried run-into while doing some photography at Pilar's recent Konkani opera (on Fr Agnelo) and another hasty meet during the interval of a college concert, which the priest was lending his musical support to. If it wasn't for e-mail, and the young Peter C Raposo, another editor-priest from IXTT one wouldn't have seen this book or got to know more about the work at Pilar. A book of this kind could obviously do better at the hands of a more knowledgeable reviewer... Anyway, treat this just as an attempt to share what one came across. FN --- Title; Golden Hits Author: Fr Peter Cardoso sfx Publ: Self-published, Pilar 2003 (?) Pages: 80 Price: Not mentioned --- Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 Email fred at bytesforall.org Writing with a difference .. on what makes *the* difference http://www.bytesforall.org --- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html --- ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EM
[Goanet]Re: Family list? Goanet Survey-All matured members only & 95% of them appearing regularly.
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:43:15 +0100 (BST), Candice Ezekwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Just a quick reply since this was brought up. I am one of those silent members on Goanet and I am below 30 years of age. I subscribe Goanet coz I like to read the various opinions that everyone has regarding issues in Goa. I find it very interesting that there are very few members below the age of 30. Candice JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am with GOANET for just 8/9 months... No, there are no children on Goanet, all are grown up adults, infact, they are well matured. I wont be wrong to say Most of them in the age group of 50-70 years. I wonder if there is anybody below 30 years of age, they might have come and seen and then run away. (please, no offence to any one). ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]What is a 'family' list?
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:33:54 +0530, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fred Noronha wrote... FN [Hi Cecil: There is a place for 'adult' content; but that's not on Goanet. We at Goanet-Admin were finding some risque and rude content slipping in, and that's not the idea of a list we'd like to create.] CP Perhaps Fred would like to define 'adult content'. Other than the 'risque and rude' content does Fred feel that all other postings on GoaNet are suitable for a 'family' list. My contention is not that Goanet should be made a 'adult' list. I want to know when the GoaNet Admin Team decided it is a 'family' list as Viviana emphasised. I notice Fred has shrewdly not used the word 'family'. There are many shades between 'family' and 'adult' and I don't think that GoaNet should go to either extreme. - FN [In terms of *another list* you talked of, I would recommend the list below to whoever is interested: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] == This article has been sent to you by Cecil Pinto Hot News Service (our motto - Search and we will find - and forward) To stop receiving such articles please send me back an e-mail saying "I'm not yet grown up. Stop treating me like an adult!" If you found the news informative then use it in conversation, and forward it to others who might be interested. Feedback welcome. CP Please note that not only did Fred get my e-mail address wrong, he wrongly described Cecil Pinto Hot News Service as a 'list'. It is a Free Adult News and Entertainment service and purely for Private Direct Circulation. - FN [In the meantime, pray, let Goanet remain a frank but not lewd, blunt but not rude, mailing list that shouldn't be out-of-bounds for anyone of any age on grounds of its content.] CP Why doesn't Fred say the word? Does Fred want this to be a 'family' list? Not wanting 'lewd' and 'rude' behavior is perfectly ok. But making it acceptable for 'anyone of any age' is a tall task. I can easily take at least 20% of last months postings and convincingly prove that they would not be acceptable reading material for an impressionable 8 year old. FN [Also, I would second the view that we need a platform for discussion which allows new members to join in without making them feel intimiadated, and allows women to post while minimising the chauvinism that silences their voices in so many other Goan debates. Looking forward to hearing the views of others on this... FN] CP Here I totally agree. In fact I have privately written to enthusiastic new posters, who sometimes got slammed, and explained to them how to approach such discussion groups and play the field. I had compiled a FAQ specifically for newcomers to know what happened and what's happening, but that was rejected by the Admin Team. I am still willing to re-write it and post it so it can serve as an introduction and a guideline for newcomers. There are no rude words or adult descriptions in my FAQ but just some opinions which were construed as slander by the Holy of Holies. I repeat I can re-write it, but not for 8 year olds to understand!! One has to draw the line somewhere. === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]With Summer Camp 2004 Divar all set for a Eco, Sports & Cultural Revolution
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- --- Divar all set for a Eco, Sports & Cultural Revolution --- The lighting of the traditional lamp by the Secretary of the DSE Fr. Tony Salema will mark a new dawn for the 520 children of Our Lady Of Divar High School, Divar. Fr. Tony will inagurate the summer camp which begins from 5th April 2004 to 18th April 2004 from 8.00an to 12.00noon. The parent &Teacher Association Ex- Students & Villagers who are taking a lead in this camp makes this project unique. Under the banner of Divar Son of The Soil Project the camp is divided into four sections namely sports, eco, culture and leadership With the help of the S.A.G & local sports persons children will be trained in football, Kho- Kho, Kabbadi, Table Tennis, Basket ball, Taikwondo & Soft ball. After the camp children will be selected to represent the school in their chosen sport for the next four years. The aim is to give children time to develop their talents, coach to spot talent & for talented students to be sent for state trials in a systematic way. Music & Culture are in our blood. To enhance the children's talent, classical, music, singing, painting, tailoring will be nurtured by local and state level artists. The above classes will help the children to prepare better when they take part in the famous Bonderam & Natkasur festivals. Children will be able to paint their own floats design their own costumes, compose and sing their own songs. To add spice to the camp children will be thought to cook & taste Gujarati, Chinese vegetarian dishes besides snacks. Our Island has produced famous business houses like C.M.M, I.A Gonsalves, Armacar Group, etc. To keep this trend going we will have a leadership workshop. Between 8.00am & 9.00am the P.T.A has invited a galaxy of speakers from all over Goa namely The new N.I.O Director -Dr. Satish Shetye, Cartoonist -Alexyz, Sangeeta Naik -Digital Goa, Allan D'Sa. North-Goa S.D.P.O, Dr Prabhudesai Director S.A.G, Mr. Gaonkar -Food & Drugs-Govt of India, Sabina Martins- Bailancho Saad, Fr. Mario Pereira -Pilar- Goa, Fr. Francis Silveira -Child Line, Mr. Nagesh Karmali -Freedom Fighter & Mr. Victor Albuquerque - Dir. Alcon Victor Group. The above speakers will share their knowledge on various topics in their field. This session is open to all the children parents & villagers. One of the most exciting part of the camp will be the eco project in partnership with the panjim based N.G.O Peoples Movement for Civic Action. It will be from 9.00am to 12.00noon besides helping to build a vermin composting pit, kitchen garden a scheme will be implemented to collect milk bags plastic bottles to get rid of such waste from the island. Patricia Pinto and her team will bring speakers to talk on Nutrition, Mangroves, Frogs, Turtles, Mhadai river with the help of slides and video shows. During the camp the teachers of the school will undergo a basic course in computers which would help the school to be computerized. The above initiatives have come from Divadcars from grassroots who have volunteered to put in their spare time and make the camp a success. On 18th April 2004 from 9.30 am onwards children will display what they have learnt during the camp. Our very own Mr. & Mrs. Victor Albuquerque has kindly consented to be the chief guest. Mario Fernandes Tel no: 2280691. (P.T.A) Stanley Vaz Tel no: 2280434. (P.T.A Chairman) Ms. Marcelia Gomes Tel no: 2280155. (Headmistress) - Source:Press Release of Summer Camp 2004 Divar Son of the Soil Project 2004, Our Lady Of Divar High School - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]06 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 06 APRIL 2004 "HOUSES OF GOA" MUSEUM in GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news Uploaded: Apr-05-04 | 6 am Duration: 4:33 - Architect Gerard da Cunha, the eminent exponent of natural architecture, speaks about his rare museum "Houses of Goa", which he has set up in Salvador do Mundo village in North Goa. The beautiful museum, built in the shape of a ship and located deep in a picturesque valley, is a new landmark on Goa's "interesting spots" map, documenting as it does Goa's rich architectural heritage. Webzine "GoaNOW": http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news RAID ON CUSTOMS: A team of Central Vigilance Bombay and the CBI Goa Branch raided the Central Warehouse of Central Customs and Excise at Verna on April 3 and seized 22 large wooden boxes containing unaccountable consumer durable goods. (GT) CEMENT ROADS IN SIX TOWNS: A reputed cement company hopes to introduce a revolutionary technology for rapid construction of mass housing in Goa at the rate of a house per day and also resurface with value-added cement 20 kms of road stretches in six municipal areas. ACC Scanform is the new Swedish technology adapted to local conditions for constructing houses on a mass scale using tunnel forms. It enables speedier construction of one-flat-a-day with adequate construction aids and also imparts greater stability against earthquakes as compared to conventional technology. (GT) ELECTORAL REFORMS NEEDED: Former student leader and social activist Adv Aires Rodrigues has stated that the new government that would come at the Centre should speed up the much needed electoral reforms. In a press note, Adv Rodrigues has called for an amendment to the Representation of People Act, 1951, to ensure that a person is not allowed to contest from more than one constituency. If he wins from both the seats, he has to resign from one and consequently the Election Commission has to conduct bye-elections for the vacant seat by spending crores of rupees. The burden falls on public funds and this is a waste of public money. (H) DIVAR'S ATTEMPT AT ECO-SPORTS-CULTURAL REVOLUTION: The traditional lamp was lit by the Secretary of the DSE, Fr. Tony Salema, to mark a new dawn for the 520 children of Our Lady Of Divar High School, Divar, yesterday, and to inaugurate the summer camp (5th April to 18th April), organised by the Parent & Teacher Association, Ex- Students & villagers, under the banner of "Divar's Son of The Soil Project". The unique camp is divided into four sections namely sports, eco, culture and leadership. Today, N.I.O Director, Dr. Satish Shetye, will have a presentation on the river-system of Goa. (GoaNOW) DEBTS FORCED HIM TO PLAN DACOITY: It was repayment of money which his finance company owed to its creditors that made Gajanan Ramesh Desai (28), a Goan, and presently a resident of Chinchwad, Pune, to resort to dacoity at Shobha Jewellers in Mapusa on 15 March. (GT) DRUG CONTROLLER PULLS UP KERALA COMPANY: The drug Controller, Kochi-Kerala, has de-licensed the product 'Immuno-QR' of 'Fair Pharma', which claims to cure killer viral disease, besides boosting immune deficiency. The product was being widely advertised and claiming to cure cholesterol, TB and an alternative to angiographies/angioplasty. The full course of 100 days was priced at Rs.8,800 while the price of Cholesterol-QR was Rs.2,250. (GT) LICENCE CANCELLED: Directorate of Food and Drugs Administration, Panjim, has cancelled the drug licence held by M/s Sandeep Medical Stores, Chapora, with immediate effect. The medical store was found engaged in unauthorized sale of drugs like Ketamine, Mephentermine injections and Sildenafil Citrate tablets, etc, which are largely misused, besides violating various other laws. (H) DHARNA IN CITY: The newly formed Goa Action Group-a group of concerned citizens-will hold a dharna on April 7, opposite Custom House, Panjim, from 10 am to 1 pm. The group will highlight IFFI issues such as non-compliance of procedures, wasteful expenditure, denial of information, lack of transparency and accountability, lopsided priorities over basic amenities. (H) ANGLE PEGS ASSETS AT RS.6.77 CR: BJP candidate for South Goa Parliamentary constituency, Ramakant Angle, has put his total assets at Rs.6.77 crore and liabilities at Rs.1.40 core. In his affidavit filed before the Returning officer Angle said there's no case pending against him. He mentioned his educational qualifications as BSc (Hons). (H) CONG PLEDGES FULL SUPPORT TO WILLY: The North Goa Congress District Committee has decided to fully support the candidature of the NCP-Congress alliance nominee, Dr Wilfred de Souza, and work hard for his victory against his BJP rival, Shripad Naik. (GT) NAIDU TO ADDRESS BJP MEETINGS: BJP National president Venkaiah Naidu will address two public meetings at Curchorem and Bicholim on 7 April to boost the BJP poll campaign. (GT) HEMA MALINI IN V
[Goanet]Re: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
> COWDUNG HAS MEDICINAL VALUE: Dung of cows of Indian > breed not only can be used as organic manure but > also has medicinal properties, according to > Govindyan Anusandhan Kendra, Nagpur, which is doing > intensive research on the subject. Director of the > Kendra, Sunil Mansinghak told a press conference in > Panjim that there is a high content of medicinal > properties in dung of cows of Indian breed and > expressed the need to take a patent of the same. Yep, Someone beat me to it and is taking a patent on nothing but bull$hit :-) Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Now its cheapest to Call from GOA to UK/Europe-US-Canada etc (just Rs.7.20 to UK?)
eff. April 1 2004 (no April fool this time please) BSNL promotional scheme of reduction in ILD call charges to UK, USA and other European countries ( the scheme has been extended till further orders on 31.3.2004) Promotional Tariff to UK /US/Canada/Europe Rate /pulse per minute Pulse Rate Pulse RateNew (promotional) Peak Rs. OffPk Rs. 24 hours eff.April (old) (new)Pulse Rs. To UK 3 243.4 21 107.20 US/Can/all Europe 3 243.4 21 7.5 9.60 ** This promotional tariff is also applicable to ISD calls originated from PCO, Cellular and WLL(Mobile), where ISD call charges is prescribed as per PSTN. Read more.. http://www.bsnl.co.in/service/tele_tariff.htm then click on ISD tariff = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Beyond Mhapsa Fest.
One of the most pleasant pieces that I have read recently is entitled " Emotions that flow onto the canvas" written by by a painter, Shweta Chopra, in the NT Panaorama dated 04 April,2004[page 1]. It is nice to read one painter 'painting' a pretty picture of another painter in a local newspaper. It is difficult to miss the article on the page: at one extreme is an image of a painting of a well-endowed woman with a fulsome hip and at the other extreme is a photo of a serious looking man. I do not know if women are fascinated by the sombre looking artist, but his art is almost entirely devoted to them! The artist is none other than Rajendra Usapkar, the de facto curator of the art galleries at the Mhapsa Fest[Feb.13-15.] Both Shweta and Rajendra were part of the Mhapsa Fest. On Tuesday the 13 April,2004 at 6.30 P.M. Rajendra begins his art exhibition at Galleria Cidade in the shopping arcade of Hotel Cidade de Goa[ just beyond the reception/front office counter, to the right].The exhibition is open to public through the week. Those who like to admire the intrinsic beauty of women, both clothed and titilatingly nude, go see it for yourselves. I had a peek last evening...into the works of Rajendra Usapkar. >From 22 to 24 April, charming Charmin Suares will be part of the art exhibition at the "Down to Earth" programme put together by effusive Ethel da Costa. Rudolf Kammermier of Galleria das Bellas Artes,Calangute,[ and husband of artist Yolanda de Souza] will be the curator. The programme includes a jazz concert. The evening of wine ,women and song is from 5 to 10 p.m. on all three days at the Heritage Precint/F.L.Gomes garden, Campal-Panaji. The occasion: World Earth Day,22 April. On the next day Dr. Willy celebrates his birthday. I do not know if he will like jazz in the middle of the political music in the CM's home constituency. Difficult to take a stand on environment at any time of the year at any venue.It is tougher at Campal, just off the proposed four-lane project, the IFFI venues [Kala Academy, the ex-Bandodkar Football stadium and the ex-GMC complex] and Councillor Patricia Pinto's backyard--quite literally. To extract a commitment, one may actually have to resort to surgery. Two parting thoughts: A child was told of the futility of throwing star fishes back into the sea: there were millions of them for him to make a difference. He replied innocently," What I do makes a difference to the star fish that I put back into the sea." " A drawing is not a form; it is a way of seeing a form." said Edgar Degas[Impressionist Painter] Viva Goa. Miguel Braganza --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]06 APR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 06 APRIL 2004 "HOUSES OF GOA" MUSEUM in GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news Uploaded: Apr-05-04 | 6 am Duration: 4:33 - Architect Gerard da Cunha, the eminent exponent of natural architecture, speaks about his rare museum "Houses of Goa", which he has set up in Salvador do Mundo village in North Goa. The beautiful museum, built in the shape of a ship and located deep in a picturesque valley, is a new landmark on Goa's "interesting spots" map, documenting as it does Goa's rich architectural heritage. Webzine "GoaNOW": http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news RAID ON CUSTOMS: A team of Central Vigilance Bombay and the CBI Goa Branch raided the Central Warehouse of Central Customs and Excise at Verna on April 3 and seized 22 large wooden boxes containing unaccountable consumer durable goods. (GT) CEMENT ROADS IN SIX TOWNS: A reputed cement company hopes to introduce a revolutionary technology for rapid construction of mass housing in Goa at the rate of a house per day and also resurface with value-added cement 20 kms of road stretches in six municipal areas. ACC Scanform is the new Swedish technology adapted to local conditions for constructing houses on a mass scale using tunnel forms. It enables speedier construction of one-flat-a-day with adequate construction aids and also imparts greater stability against earthquakes as compared to conventional technology. (GT) ELECTORAL REFORMS NEEDED: Former student leader and social activist Adv Aires Rodrigues has stated that the new government that would come at the Centre should speed up the much needed electoral reforms. In a press note, Adv Rodrigues has called for an amendment to the Representation of People Act, 1951, to ensure that a person is not allowed to contest from more than one constituency. If he wins from both the seats, he has to resign from one and consequently the Election Commission has to conduct bye-elections for the vacant seat by spending crores of rupees. The burden falls on public funds and this is a waste of public money. (H) DIVAR'S ATTEMPT AT ECO-SPORTS-CULTURAL REVOLUTION: The traditional lamp was lit by the Secretary of the DSE, Fr. Tony Salema, to mark a new dawn for the 520 children of Our Lady Of Divar High School, Divar, yesterday, and to inaugurate the summer camp (5th April to 18th April), organised by the Parent & Teacher Association, Ex- Students & villagers, under the banner of "Divar's Son of The Soil Project". The unique camp is divided into four sections namely sports, eco, culture and leadership. Today, N.I.O Director, Dr. Satish Shetye, will have a presentation on the river-system of Goa. (GoaNOW) DEBTS FORCED HIM TO PLAN DACOITY: It was repayment of money which his finance company owed to its creditors that made Gajanan Ramesh Desai (28), a Goan, and presently a resident of Chinchwad, Pune, to resort to dacoity at Shobha Jewellers in Mapusa on 15 March. (GT) DRUG CONTROLLER PULLS UP KERALA COMPANY: The drug Controller, Kochi-Kerala, has de-licensed the product 'Immuno-QR' of 'Fair Pharma', which claims to cure killer viral disease, besides boosting immune deficiency. The product was being widely advertised and claiming to cure cholesterol, TB and an alternative to angiographies/angioplasty. The full course of 100 days was priced at Rs.8,800 while the price of Cholesterol-QR was Rs.2,250. (GT) LICENCE CANCELLED: Directorate of Food and Drugs Administration, Panjim, has cancelled the drug licence held by M/s Sandeep Medical Stores, Chapora, with immediate effect. The medical store was found engaged in unauthorized sale of drugs like Ketamine, Mephentermine injections and Sildenafil Citrate tablets, etc, which are largely misused, besides violating various other laws. (H) DHARNA IN CITY: The newly formed Goa Action Group-a group of concerned citizens-will hold a dharna on April 7, opposite Custom House, Panjim, from 10 am to 1 pm. The group will highlight IFFI issues such as non-compliance of procedures, wasteful expenditure, denial of information, lack of transparency and accountability, lopsided priorities over basic amenities. (H) ANGLE PEGS ASSETS AT RS.6.77 CR: BJP candidate for South Goa Parliamentary constituency, Ramakant Angle, has put his total assets at Rs.6.77 crore and liabilities at Rs.1.40 core. In his affidavit filed before the Returning officer Angle said there's no case pending against him. He mentioned his educational qualifications as BSc (Hons). (H) CONG PLEDGES FULL SUPPORT TO WILLY: The North Goa Congress District Committee has decided to fully support the candidature of the NCP-Congress alliance nominee, Dr Wilfred de Souza, and work hard for his victory against his BJP rival, Shripad Naik. (GT) NAIDU TO ADDRESS BJP MEETINGS: BJP National president Venkaiah Naidu will address two public meetings at Curchorem and Bicholim on 7 April to boost the BJP poll campaign. (GT) HEMA MALINI IN V
[Goanet]RE: Malabar Christians
Subject: Malabar Christians In the post on Malabar Christians, the author called the Persians or Syriac Christians as 'Christians of St. Thomas'. I may be wrong, but to the best of my knowledge, the group is called Mar-Toma Christians. That's because this group was led to India from Persia in the fourth century by a leader called Mar-Toma. The group had no direct linkage to St. Thomas, The Apostle. Any one in the know please clarify. Regards, Gilbert ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Family list? Drug deaths and how many more?
Goa has received admirable coverage in recent times in the foreign press, not for anything positive but for the drug deaths taking place in Goa for the past one year. Over 59 foreigners have died and the UK leads the pack with 28 deaths. Apparently and it is common knowledge that the local puppets do very little about the situation since 61 and drugs for foreign exchange is the policy of the bharati government. Goa a shining example for you! B. Colaco ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Pre-1961 (and Ole Xac)
Hi Val, I thought bollocks was the means of transport before 61. Thanks for the info. B. Colaco --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does he have a heart? I thought he lost it in > 1961... > PS: Sorry Ole Xac, whoever you might be. I just > couldn't resist this one. > But then, you've been having a lot of fun at our > cost, innit? > > > ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Victor Rangel-Ribeiro & Gummot
Thanks, Dan, we'd like that too. Incidentally, we have been in Goa since January; during the cold spell, pipes burst in our New York home, part of a ceiling fell on our grand piano smashing it, but the gumot that was on the piano was untouched. Also two gurguretts in the kitchen, though falling plaster smashed even the oven and the range. We'll be back in mid-April, but the house won't be in fit shape to live in for some months. Regards, Victor ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]RE: Orissa Bajrang Dal
Like all 'moderate' muslims will Radha Nair take on the Bajarang Dal? In fact it is the Radha Nair type who hides behind the parda and appreciates the bajarang comments. B. Colaco --- Radhakrishnan Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Nicholas Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The hatred for christians > in India by the hindus should be known all over the > world.) > > This is too sweeping a statement, Mr Fernandes. > You've apparently used the > word Hindu to encompass the vast majority of people > like me who're no > Bajarang Dali eggheads by any stretch of > imagination. I'm offended by your > knee-jerk reaction. > > Regards, RKN > ___ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##