Re: [Goanet]Fwd: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # from Gabe Menezes
HELLO WHAT IS YOUR NAME AND WHERE ARE YOU GOT YOUR MESSAGE AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. PLEASE WRITE BACK. -- Original Message - From: "Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: [Goanet]Fwd: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # from Gabe Menezes > > > - Forwarded message from Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:45:33 +0100 > From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I have been inundated with requests for the address, so I am putting this on > Goanet so that it will be available on Google too! > > Cheers, > > Gabe Menezes. > > > Subject: Re: Address and telephone contact.. > > > > > The hospital address is as follows: > Apollo NUSI Hospitals & Research Centre, > Panzorconi Cuncolim > Salcete - Goa > 403703 > > You may contact the frontoffice on the following nos. > 91-0832-2862903/04/05/52/53 > > Emergency : 91-0832-286 > > > > > - End forwarded message - > > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # > ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]The finer things of life.
Anthony Barretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW it would be interesting to get goanetters views > on what constitutes the finer things in life. Tony Martin, IMHO, it is having friends whom you could depend on when you were a teenager and whom you can still depend on today. Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Historical injustice
Subject: Historical injustice: Respondent: Out of curiosity, where did you get all the information (on the inquisition) for this series that you have been posting? Incidentally, this comes from a person who has refused to accept that the Inquisition ever existed. Gilbert: Don't the above two statements contradict each other? ... I thought I just wrote a three part series on Goa's inquisition with a lot of data on the events. I will provide the references in the thesis that I will write for my Ph.D. degree on Goa. :=)) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Hindi, Urdu, Alfredbab, Tariqmia......ani Konkani
Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Din't Hindi and Urdu --same but different alphabet ? -- come on the scene more as a colonial lingua franca, to serve the Indo-British administration and military purposes?> => Tariq Siddiqui wrote in reply I found this website that gives a nice short overview: http://www.urdustan.com/faq.html> =>jc's response Dear Alfred, I believe you are correct. When you have the opportunity, please read Prof Alok Rai, Hindi Nationalism, Orient Longman, New Delhi, 2000. It is refereed to in some circles as the MacDonnell Moment So, Alfredbab,...it depends WHAT one means by HINDI and WHAT one means by URDU! Jawaharlal Nehru's Hindi was the same as his Urdu. But that was then! It also depends on WHAT is meant by KONKANI! rather WHICH Konkani. I would like to know (for purly personal reasons) WHY Jose and Joao became Zuze ani Zuam in the new S-Konkani - while JESU remained Jesu! So much for politricks and politicians. In closing, ALLOW me to say a THANK YOU to Diana (Flower) for her post on the "Rock and a Hard place" choices available in South Goa. In my humble opinion - excellent advice BTW: There is a non-South Goan who opined (loudly - but privately) that One Swallow (Gilbert's post) did NOT make a summer. This non-South Goan contends that DEMOCRACY is VIBRANT in Goa. Ha! On the other hand.I could be wrong. After all, I am here & the non-South Goan is ALMOST there! ( almost in South Goa) (:-) regards jc _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Fwd: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # from Gabe Menezes
- Forwarded message from Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:45:33 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Apollo NUSI Hospital address phone # To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been inundated with requests for the address, so I am putting this on Goanet so that it will be available on Google too! Cheers, Gabe Menezes. Subject: Re: Address and telephone contact.. The hospital address is as follows: Apollo NUSI Hospitals & Research Centre, Panzorconi Cuncolim Salcete - Goa 403703 You may contact the frontoffice on the following nos. 91-0832-2862903/04/05/52/53 Emergency : 91-0832-286 - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Fwd: Caju Feni by Salus Correia
- Forwarded message from Salus Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:38:33 +1000 From: Salus Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Caju Feni To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Joseph, I have read your article about caju feni with interest! Well I do feel sorry for you and your precious liver which bore the brunt of your search for good caju feni! I left Goa in 1999, and for some years before that was professionally in the purchasing line. While working for a company that manufactured after shave lotions and colognes in Goa, it was my job to procure large amounts of rectified spirit for our products. At that time, the sale of rectified spirit was controlled by the government, and we were issued permits which were dished out as favours, at the discretion of the concerned minister for industries, who used to convene meetings of all bulk alcohol consumers to discuss forecasts etc. The first time I attended one such meeting, I was shocked to find that I was surrounded by the liquor barons! And I managed to have a chat with Mr Shirodkar, from Agencia Real that day. I enquired as to why he and the other barons wanted so much of rectified spirit. His reply to me still rings in my ears: Baba re, feniac re. Portuguese tempar dongrar cazu asleat ani te zaddamchem cuidad ghetale dongorkar. Atamchem tempar, mele te dongorkarachem ani tanche bhurge. Dongor padd assa, punn feni piupe dha vantenim chodlea! And he went on to tell me how they manage to procure small quantities of genuine caju feni from their sources, and how they used that small quantity as the essence with rectified spirit. And he also told me how some unscrupulous manufacturers made caju feni which was 100 per cent rectified spirit, with caju essence manufactured by some Bombay chemical essence companies! Apparently that is the cheap feni that seems to flow in the bars in Goa today. So it should not be a surprise if you find feni substandard etc. Good feni is good, and does not give you the side effects that you mentioned. Fortunately, there are still some good sources of caju feni in Goa. I like the feni distilled by the priests at the SVD monastery at Raia, and also from the Salesian farm at Sulcurna. Maybe you could try this stuff, and see the difference for yourself. These priests use some modern techniques for crushing the fruit and also for distillation. And that does make a lot of a difference, considering hygienic conditions etc... Enjoy your feni!!! Regards, Salus Correia ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Shiek Ali and the Manglorean holocaust
--- Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tariqji, > > Din't Hindi and Urdu --same but different alphabet ? -- come on the scene > more as a colonial lingua franca, to serve the Indo-Brittish administration > and military purposes? Not really. I believe Amir Khusro first wrote Urdu couplets, and that was before the British. Urdu and Hindi both have origins in Khari Boli, a language spoken in the Gangetic plains. I found this website that gives a nice short overview: http://www.urdustan.com/faq.html -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]GEOLOGY IN GOA
Boa Tarde para o Rio de Janeiro! I recommend the excellent work by Doutor Oliveira Bóleo "Apontamentos para uma Geografia Física de Goa", Agência Geral do Ultramar, Divisão de Publicações e Biblioteca, Lisboa, 1955, with the following chapters: Condições Topográficas, Condições Geológicas, Condições Hipsométricas, Condições Hidrográficas and Condições Climáticas. It's an old edition, but you might find it in one of Brazil's National Libraries. Abraço de Lisboa, Constantino * Goa @ http://www.supergoa.com/ --__--__-- Message: 11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Goanet]GEOLOGY IN GOA? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:18:49 -0300, "Bene Francisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: dear sir I am interest on Gelology,There is a Goan Gelogical Book or geologist? Bene Rodrigues APG ASSOCIATION OF GEOLOGISTS RIO DE JANEIRO BRAZIL WWW.APRGJ.ORG.BR Presidente _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Perplexing Panaji.
Dear Goanetters/BSG members, I was standing at the foot of the 1904 heritage cross near the Ferry Jetty and could not help recalling Prajal Sakhardande's article on it in the Navhind Times some time back. There was a JCB working IN THE RIVER Mandovi. At hand were Dr. Claude Alvares of the Goa Foundation and Dr.Arvind G.Untawale, Secretary of the Mangrove Society of India and the IPP of BSG. Both of them are members of the Goa State Coastal Zone Management Authority or CZMA constituted by the Supreme Court of India.. They were in telephonic contact with the Member-Secretary of CZMA. The subject of discussion: erosion of the 'authority' by illegal 'dredging'[ if excavation by earthmovers can be called that] apparently for hold your breathto see films better! The works are being executed by AFCONS on behalf of Goa State Infrastructural Development Corporation Ltd. to create a four lane road to see the IFFI take off. The rest of Goa is at the cross roads like that famous moron with a knife and a pistol...not sure whether to cut across or shoot across the IFFI divide. On 14 March,2004, I had stated at a public meeting that I was FOR the Goa IFFI and that I did not see any logical connection between the IFFI and the the earlier aborted four-lane project that the Goa Government is again pregnant with. The government is being rather secretive about the parentage of this new [mis]conception while being blatant about the pregnancy. The obvious joy of having the IFFI is as crass as that of a spinster who flaunts a huge belly. It is not really funny when a Government works on Sundays, Good Fridays and under the cover of darkness like some petty criminal. If a Government breaks the CRZ regulations and destroys the mangroves that it has notified as 'protected' just because the State Legislative Assembly elections are three years away and the political opposition is rather toothless, how does it become better than a zopadpatti dweller or pimp who illegally and illicitly erects a pucca house on a long week-end? Is this what 'good governance' is all about? Viva Goa. Miguel ... original 'raw' text of the article in North Goa Plus :[This is not a 'top post'] Perpetuating Panjim By Miguel Braganza Panjim is a charming town that has been the capital of Goa for more than two centuries. It is a quaint little place that has ornate houses in Campal and Altinho, the ancient houses of Mhamai Kamat, a worldfamed "Latin Quarter" in Fontainhas, Communidade Building, Boca da vaca, the church, Paco Patriarchal (residence of the Archbishop Patriach) and above all, the striking edifice of Adil Shah's Summer Palace straddling the River Mandovi. It is a town worth conserving -- even restoring -- for the generations to come. Those who love the town, and know a little bit about how the water of the River Mandovi behaves, would undoubtedly be happy to see a JCB excavator at work on the debris of the ill fated Nehru Bridge. The debris was senselessly dumped in the river during the 1980's near Adil Shah's palace that has served as the Government Secretariat since 1763. Poor garbage management led to the proliferation of rats and plague in Velha Goa (Old Goa). The shift to Nova Goa, that we now call Panaji, became inevitable. A few more years of silt deposition due to the bridge debris in the River Mandovi would have ensured the flooding and death of lowlying stretches of Panjim like Ponte de Linhares, Corte de Oitero, Rua de Ourem, MG Road and DB Road all the way to Miramar. Signs of things to come have been seen during the last few monsoons and forgotten by the start of the annual festive season. Public memory is shorter than one thinks although, Mother Nature gives periodic warnings before it strikes. A little bit about how a "river" like the Mandovi behaves may not be entirely out of place. During the monsoon period, it is like any river that flows into the sea and deposits silt at its mouth. It should normally have formed a delta. It has not. And with good reason. The 'river' Mandovi is actually an "estuary". During the post-monsoon period, it receives very little water from its tributaries. The level of water in the Mandovi falls below the level of water in the Arabian Sea as the tide begins to rise. The saline water flows into the 'river' upto a distance upstream where the fresh water level matches the level of the tide. It is due to this phenomenon that the monsoon water does not drain out of Panjim at high tide. It also forms a deposit -- the famous "barro da Aguada" across the river mouth. During the monsoon period the water in the river is red with silt. What the barges do in summer, the muddy waters do in the monsoon. A "spar" formed by stone or concrete deposited in the river makes the water to slow down and deposit the silt. It also diverts the water and makes it scour or erode another area, quite often, the opposite bank. The river loses depth and becomes shallow. It overflows its banks -- and floods. A flood is s
[Goanet]Divar shows a better way.
After a long time, I am once again happy to be associated with a school project which is locally conceived,locally driven, locally funded and locally executed. It is a formula that is sustainable...that has the ingredients of success. This experiment is at the island of Divar in the Mandovi, an island that has not yet forgotton the flooding of its roads when man's greed made him breach the bunds for pisciculture and leabve them to the vagaries of the estuarine flow and the effects of the iron-ore laden barges that ply the river from the hinterland to the port. There are two Panchayats [ Goletim-Navelim and Piedade], two communidades and two Bonderam festivals[ Piedade and Malar/ San Mathias]. There are two schools ,too. There is one summer camp for all of the island. The project is all inclusive: the students, their parents, other villagers, teachers, ex-teachers, locals, bhaile, NRIs, non-resident natives[ the Menezes clan of Divar spread all over Goa and India,for example] are all involved in the project. A raffle has been floated to 1.raise funds , 2.to inform all the villagers about the camp and 3. to involve all the villagers. Anyone who has bought a raffle has contributed to the camp. Even the one that has not bought a raffle tickect would have been approached by a student and hence been informed about the event. Many who were not part of the planning process have volunteered to be a part of its execution. The island is aware of the summer camp. The camp caters to all needs: from vocational skills like tailoring and gardening to home skills like cooking to environmental skills like vermicomposting ,EM and garbage management to self defence through taekwondo to games like football and Kho-kho . A library is open to cater to the reading habit and a computer lab to learn a skill that has become as much a part of life today as writing skills. The primary school children have not been forgotten. They are learning not to have stage fear by being involved in stage items like song and dance. The teachers are not forgotten either: they are learning computer skills, a thing that some of their city counterparts have not accessed in their schools. The wonderful thing about the camp is that it is voluntary for both, the trainers and the participants. Each student or adult has chosen the mix of learning opportunities like s/he would have chosen at a buffet party or a 'a la carte' lunch . There are no fees and no honoraria. There is no hierarchy, no pecking order in the implementation of the project. One can contribute to its enrichment ...and it is welcomed. I have committed my involvement in the project over the next academic year and beyond. There is great potential to replicate this in other schools in Goa. Imitation is ,afterall, the best form of flattery. I am hoping that the DSE adopts this pattern in schools that do not have their own programmes as yet. Other managements can do likewise. There is in-house talent in most schools [teachers, students, ex-students, parents of students, neighbours of the school] that is waiting to be tapped. Some schools/colleges like St.Francis Xavier HS-Siolim, St.Britto HS-Mapusa, St.Xavier HS-Moira, Carmel HSS-Nuvem, St.Xavier's College-Mapusa and the Government colleges at Sanquelim, Khandola and Quepem have used these talents successfully. St.Brittos HS-Mapusa and St.Xavier-Moira have such programmes going on right nowabsolutely free of charge for the students. It builds up their students,creates a sense of belonging and genuine pride in belonging to the institution. Other institutions can do as well or even better. Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Water supply in Goa - Neruls strange plight...
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- Neruls strange plight... -- No sooner than summer sets in, we villagers of Nerul especially around Batier do not get proper water supply. To worsen matters, since the last few days, whatever trickle of water was available stopped totally. We asked the technician stationed at Nerul to take a look. He suspected something was blocking the flow of water.He unscrewed the pipe that was connected to the main pipe, from the tap connection, and found what we thought was a balloon. After he extracted it, we realized it was a used condom that had a knot tied in it. How is it possible for such a thing to find its way into the potable water supply system? What about the health hazards, including a possible exposure to the AIDS virus with the entry of such foreign bodies into our water life-lines? Verodiana Britto,, Batier Nerul Ph 2401969 in a letter to the Editor --- HERALD 12/4/04 page 6 --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org --- ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Two interesting Goa-links... China and dowry
From: "Alfred de Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:56 PM > Valmiki, from what Rama Hegdo told me, he, P.P. Shirodkar, Gaitodo, Kamat de > Assolna, were not incarcerated in toto. They had considrerable, albeit > restricted to area, freedom of movement. > > Who should know for certain is Augusto Monteiro, Vanxem, Loutulim. He, and > Shirodkar, were among the very first to repatriate themselves via London. > Give him a ring. He is on the directory. > > Alfred Dear Alfred, Thanks for the input. You are absolutely right, I had that from the horse's mouth, the late Kamat de Assolna, who had confirmed that political detainees were treated quite leniently in Portugal. Now my friend Ole Xac will say the *traitors* didn't deserve that treatment! :-) Regards from here/Valmiki ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Dilemma of the Indian voter
From: "flower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:08 PM Subject: [Goanet]Re: Dilemma of South Goa voters > > voters are in a very unenviable predicament But remember, its > hard times not only for voters in S. Goa, but probably all over India and I > think we have no alternative but to make some hard choices. > > Diana === The People's Representation Act must be amended so that every ballot in every election gives the voter, at the bottom of the list of contestants, the option: *NONE OF THE ABOVE.* Only when NONE OF THE ABOVE *wins* the election, forcing a fresh poll, will political parties be compelled to field worthwhile candidates -- not, as at present, *winnable* horses. I think it was the redoubtable Khushwant Singh who had mooted this idea years ago. Political parties obviously won't act. Maybe the judiciary would, on grounds on reasonableness? Maybe Goanetters entitled to vote here could sign an online petition, under the aegis of iPetition (www.ipetitions.com) or some other net mechanism, to be submitted to a High Court? Just thinking. Regards/Valmiki ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Dilemma of South Goa voters
Yes, South Goa voters are in a very unenviable predicament But remember, its hard times not only for voters in S. Goa, but probably all over India and I think we have no alternative but to make some hard choices. Dodging a problem never did anyone any good. Politics has sunk to an abysmal low where parties give the electorate the choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. All we can do is to cast our vote for the less dangerous evil. In fact, that's what electoral politics has now come to mean for me. But in my opinion, each and everyone of us must do their bit and vote however distasteful it may be. So cheers, put a smile on your face, put hope in your heart and go out and vote. Diana ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Shiek Ali and the Manglorean holocaust
From: Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Shiek Ali and the Manglorean holocaust Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Why? Just because the lingua franca of Tipu's times was Persian and Urdu? -Tariq Tariqji, Din't Hindi and Urdu --same but different alphabet ? -- come on the scene more as a colonial lingua franca, to serve the Indo-Brittish administration and military purposes? That is the impression I have and would be much obliged for elucidation. I follw your comments with avid interest. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2004-04-14 _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]RE: Believe IT or NOT !
From: "Jyotiba Patil" Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: [Goanet]RE: Believe IT or NOT ! Believe IT or NOT by seb d'costa The statue of Great Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj on his horse at Farmagudi, Phonda, Goa has both front legs of the horse in the air, but he didn't die in battle. Can u clarify this. Response: Must have been startled by the smell of caju feni:-)) LR ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Two interesting Goa-links... China and dowry
Dear Senhor Bernado, If I err not, the only time Goa's first Legislative Assembly Speaker, Pa.Pu. Shirodkar was in *Portuguese territory* (other than pre-'61 Goa) was when he was incarcerated in a Portuguese jail. You met him there? What were you incarcerated for? :-) Tell me about your research findings on the *traitor* Pintos of Goa, will you? Rgds/Valmiki From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:37 AM > Dear Val, > > Did you know this liar PaPu (an other freedom > fighter???)? I met this chappie in a Portuguese > territory. He asked me if we Goans were happy living > there,for which I told him that we extremely happy > > > B. Colaco > > > Tell me more about your findings on the *Pintos* in > > Goa -- the > > ones from Candolim (which Century was that?) are old > > hag ... > > And what Pa.Pu. Shirodkar (remember Goa's first > > Legislative > > Assembly Speaker?) wrote about the surname *Pinto* > > is > > simply blasphemy! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Believe IT or NOT !
Believe IT or NOT by seb d'costa The statue of Great Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj on his horse at Farmagudi, Phonda, Goa has both front legs of the horse in the air, but he didn't die in battle. Can u clarify this. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Must Read....
A non-resident Indian in UAE shares her thoughts & experience... quite too long but rather interesting. - I was doing reasonably well at my place of work in India. We were happy in our little flat in noisy, polluted Mumbai. The three-hour journey, to and fro from work, did not faze us. Then, my husband got this irresistible job offer from Dubai! I joined him eight months ago, bang in the middle of Dubai's terribly long summer. I just knew I would land a challenging job within a month. After all, I was this competent high achiever! Besides, life would be better there if not at par with India. After all, Dubai is 'phoren' and the land of no income tax. Today, I am grappling with the distasteful task of job-hunting in the Middle East. One of the popular ways of doing this is through the famous Gulf Appointments. It was here that I first came across advertisements like 'Wanted HR Manager -- US/UK/SA/EUR/NZL Only.' I was shocked. Why not just say: 'Wanted HR Manager -- No Asians Please. We only want to hire white-skinned people'. I spent the first two months receiving calls from agents who offered jobs with meagre salaries. Wake up and smell the coffee, I was told -- Asians come cheap. There is a clear disparity in wages and perks given to people of different nationalities doing the same job. A friend of mine works for one of the finest hotels in the world. She is Asian, so she stays in a campus built for Asian employees in an industrial area. White employees doing the same job are entitled to accommodation in the city. My husband was the only person I could vent my frustrations on. The poor man was subjected to constant tirades on how this was the most humiliating experience of my life and how shocked I was at this blatant display of racism. I wondered about the future of organisations that, even today, hire on the basis of colour instead of competence. To advertise in this manner in a national newspaper was, I thought, a blatant slap on the face. This attitude was not limited to the labour market. Take entertainment. My husband and I enjoy going out. What we did not initially know was that certain nightclubs and bars here are 'strictly white.' In our ignorance, we once took a German friend to a club where a Nigerian at the door asked us for our identification. We were then asked to pay AED 200 per head to just enter the place! Even as all this was happening, white folk were walking in without being stopped or asked any questions. It was our first experience of this kind and we were deeply humiliated. Our German friend was visibly upset and could not look us in the eye for the rest of the evening. No one talks about this kind of segregation, even though it has been going on for ages. A quick glance at the newspapers and magazines here will reveal many articles on lifestyle and shopping, but hardly anything on serious social issues. Asians, meanwhile, avoid these places to save themselves the humiliation. I try to rationalise what is happening, but cannot come up with a reasonable answer. Asians have lived in Dubai for more than 40 years. They've built some of its finest buildings and hotels. They've been loyal to their employers and respectful to its citizens. The West has only noticed Dubai recently. Yet, white-skinned people exert a huge influence here and their perceived superiority supersedes logic. I eventually found a temporary job in a predominantly Asian environment. Though the going has been good, I am painfully aware of the experience that awaits me once my term here is complete. Yet, there is hope. I believe Indians are second to none in the world. Secondly, every business looks at the profit line. Any good business will always explore ways to get more for less. I may come cheaper not because I offer more for less but because my expectations are realistic and match what organisations can afford to pay. Today, most organisations here pay far more for far less. Sooner or later, they will be forced to realise that brains and hard work matter more than the colour of one's skin. Besides, not all organisations and people are discriminatory. I have interacted with organisations that possess a great deal of cross-cultural sensitivity and can truly be called equal opportunity employers. I have been fortunate enough to make friends with people from all nationalities and have found them to respectful and tolerant of each other. I can hardly blame the bouncers I encounter because employees simply do what they are told. Where there is demand, there will be supply. When regulars at clubs express a desire for a place that caters to 'their kind,' when locals listen to words coming out of a Westerner's mouth with rapt attention but disregard an Asian saying the same thing, establishments will toe the line. Why am I still in Dubai? Well, I left my family and frien
[Goanet]Read more on Spinal injury treatment in India..
Take heart, Mr Jogi, you can get better too By: Kavita Krishnan April 14, 2004 http://web.mid-day.com/news/city/2004/april/81027.htm Last November Mohammed Arif (20) was riding his motorbike home from classes when he collided head-on with a BEST bus. "I don't remember anything. When I woke up, I was in a hospital bed and could only move my neck," said Arif. The accident left him paralysed from the neck down. For people like Arif and former Chattisgarh chief minister Ajit Jogi, who sustained injuries to the cervical cord, Sion's Lokmanya Tilak Municipal General Hospital offers a glimmer of hope. Housed there is the Neurosciences Research Centre, where doctors are working on stem cell treatment for paraplegics, as part of a three-year project funded by the Government of India. The treatment, they hope, will enable patients to walk again. "We are trying to introduce modified stem cells (see box) into the damaged area of the spine, which will then regenerate and form lost connections," Dr Alok Sharma, head of Neurosurgery at the hospital, said. "Spinal cord injury is like cutting a telephone line. With the brain's connection to the body lost, the parts cannot function," Dr Sharma explained. "These cells will provide that connection," he added. "We have already developed our own stem cell line. We are presently trying to differentiate the stem cell into neurons or nerve cells," neuropathologist Dr Prerna Badhe said. "We should start animal experiments in about three months," she added. Arif's condition has also improved greatly in the past few months, thanks to treatment at the hospital's Paraplegic Foundation. Referred by doctors, Arif and a family member moved into the rehabilitation centre-cum-home. As is customary, social workers at the centre prepared a personal profile for Arif. "We talk to the patient, immediate family, friends, employers and prepare a detailed file on the person," said founder-president Sulabha Varde. Arif was then given an idea of the improvement he could expect. He underwent regular physiotherapy, occupational therapy, acupressure and acupuncture sessions. "Patients also undergo weekly group therapy sessions and participate in prayer meetings," Varde said. Still confined to the wheelchair, Arif said, "I can already lift my hand. I have seen others leave, some walking out on crutches. I hope to do the same some day," he said. Stem cells Stem cells are unspecialised cells that can renew themselves and differentiate into cells with specified functions. Put simply, they can be grown into bones, nerves, heart tissue, pancreas or blood cells. Research has already shown that paralysed mice injected with stem cells can move their limbs. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Got fish? cows eat herring for new milk - Wed 14 April, 2004 06:24 AM
Reuters News Article Got fish? cows eat herring for new milk Wed 14 April, 2004 06:24 AM By Roberta Rampton WINNIPEG, Manitoba (Reuters) - Some landlocked Canadian cows are enjoying a little seafood with their hay and grain so they can produce a new kind of milk being touted for its benefits for the brain, eyes and nerves. The milk, produced by herring-fed cows in Ontario, provides a fatty acid also common in salmon, trout and mackerel to diets of people who don't eat enough fish, said Larry Milligan, a researcher at the University of Guelph, which developed the milk. But it doesn't taste fishy, Milligan said on Tuesday. "I don't detect any difference whatsoever from regular milk," he said. The milk is sold in Ontario by Neilson Dairy, a subsidiary of George Weston Ltd., Canada's largest food processor and distributor. At C$5.29 per four litres, it's more than 20 percent pricier than regular milk, but similar in cost to calcium-enriched milk. The fatty acid, called docoshexaenoic acid, or DHA, is an omega-3 fatty acid that is also found in omega-3 eggs, nuts and canola oil. Ninety grams (three ounces) of cooked Atlantic salmon contains 1.2 grams of DHA, a week's worth of what the body needs, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Drinking three cups of the fortified homogenised milk provides 0.06 grams of DHA, Neilson said. Children can get almost 60 percent of recommended DHA by drinking two cups of the new milk a day, it said. But one food activist said the nutritional claims are a red herring used for marketing. "I'm frankly so sceptical of all the dietary claims: one thing is good for you, and then it's not," said Brewster Kneen, publisher of The Ram's Horn journal, which rails against biotechnology and multinational food processors while promoting organic farming. Kneen said cows are best left to turning grass and hay into foods humans can eat rather than eating designer diets. "Why are we taking herring, which is a good human food, and putting it through a cow? This is very strange," Kneen said. Milligan said fish meal has been used for protein in livestock diets for decades and is safe. "DHA milk was put through all the possible analytical measurements you could even imagine for Health Canada (the country's health ministry) and was approved," he said. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gilbert and image makeovers
Gilbert, I suggest you fire your PR person! Given your steady outflow of provocative communal comments, I fully understand your attempt to try and superficially paper over the bridges you have burned -least people start mistaking you for being prejudiced, which I am sure you are not! My suggestion is that being condescending and patronizing towards non-Christians as you have done below, will not help you very much in that regard. Its like a person who has a particular weakness and then tries mask it, by overcompensating for it. Marlon [Goanet]Happy Easter to all Goenkars Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:14:10 -0400 Happy Easter to all Goenkars!!! But especially to our Hindu and Muslim friends. For their benefit: This's the day that commemorates the resurrection of Christ after his death. It's the first/start of the religious year of all the Christian churches. In the early years of the church it was the only feast/celebration day. . . ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Caju Feni - technical typo (Half Quarter = 90 ml)
A major technical typo crept into my posting in defense of Caju Feni. I wrote 3 Half-Quarters (6 pegs) takes one closer to the Supreme Being. It should have been 3 Half-Quarters (4.5 pegs) takes one closer to the Supreme Being. Cheers! Cecil = ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Stink of Conceit
Joseph Zuzarte's observations on Caju feni (Herald 13 April)shows signs of conceit. Check this: >[I would prefer a good >whiskey or beer and I've had my share (minuscule >actually) of Grand Cru >Champagnes, single malts and all that, and have >learnt to appreciate the finer things in life.] If he thinks as he implies that Grand Cru Champagnes, Tequila, single malts and all that speak of a man's class, his thinking obviouly stinks and sure needs some refinement. BTW it would be interesting to get goanetters views on what constitutes the finer things in life. Regards Tony Martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]CYBERWATCH: Reading between the lines (By Mayabhushan Nagvenkar)
Reading between the lines * BY MAYABHUSHAN NAGVENKAR The official website of Bharatiya Janata Party's Goa unit (www.goabjp.org) really seems to have taken it's best efforts in introducing its candidates for the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections. Take the party's candidate for South Goa Ramakant Soiru Angle for example. Mr Angle's biodata appears to be a confluence of opposite interests, between which he seems to be performing an outlandish balancing act. To illustrate, click on a link in the know your candidate section that leads you to Mr Angle's long list of particulars. Under the header 'political and social' status, the fourth listing informs us that Mr Angle has been, "a member of the Consultative Committee Environment and Forest". Allegations, that it was only Mr Shirpad Naik who was Goa's public face in the corridors of power are rendered untrue. While critics had alleged that Mr Angle was a 'non performer', the MP was also doing his unsung bit for Goa, on the crucial committee on Environment and Forest. The committee would do well to listen to his advice, considering the fact that Mr Angle has considerable experience in the 'protecting' forests and 'preserving' environment as the subsequent paragraph on Mr Angle's resume reveals, "Heading a Business organization with 5 proprietary concerns related to Mining Industries and also a promoter of 4 companies dealing in bulk drugs, pharmaceuticals, building construction and ferro-manganese." It simply showcases the diversity of the person's character. That, being a businessman steeped in mining interests -- rather five proprietary concerns related to the industry -- Mr Angle can so easily don the hat of a member of a crucial consultative committee on Environment and Forests. There is more to come. Mr Angle has also been appointed member of Goa State Environment Protection Council. It is generally understood that mining and environment are opposites on the axis of any logical debate. Somehow Mr Angle proves this long-standing dictum wrong. Then there is the link, which takes you to North Goa candidate Shripad Naik's resume. It thankfully lists out all his five ministries in the Central government ministry in chronological order. The portfolios being Agriculture, Shipping, Civil aviation, Road Transport and National Highways and Finance, lest anyone forget the order of progression. Both the resumes go a long way in indicating that the duo are actually as different a chalk and cheese. While Mr Angle merely heads sports associations, with no visible reference to any active participation in sports activity, in comparison Mr Naik is a been-there-done-that kind of a persona. To be more graphic, Mr Angle heads three comparatively obscure sports bodies like the Goa Handball Association, Sanmitra sports club and the Baseball Association of Goa. He serves as secretary for the Gymnastics Association (Goa) and has long standing affiliations with the Salcete Football Club, Cuncolim gymkhana and Taekwondo Association. Mr Naik on the other hand, is an ex NCC cadet with a 'C' Certificate to his credit, along with an award for 'best shooting'. He has also played volley ball and kabbadi at the state level. The merit list finally ends with the mention of him winning the award of the best swimmer in a state level competition. The only other interesting read on the website is a column "bulls-eye" written by Julio D'Silva former journalist and ex- personal assistant to Mr Ramakant Angle, who raises the foreign origin issue vis a vis Sonia Gandhi. The article raises a question as ridiculous as, "In the first place if the Congress President Sonia Gandhi truly loves India and Indianess, why is she still called Madame which is an European or rather Western term?" Surely, if one goes by this logic, the writer would surely take affront to anyone calling him by the title "Sir". Deservedly or otherwise! ENDS ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]CYBERWATCH: Reading between the lines (By Mayabhushan Nagvenkar)
Reading between the lines * BY MAYABHUSHAN NAGVENKAR The official website of Bharatiya Janata Party's Goa unit (www.goabjp.org) really seems to have taken it's best efforts in introducing its candidates for the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections. Take the party's candidate for South Goa Ramakant Soiru Angle for example. Mr Angle's biodata appears to be a confluence of opposite interests, between which he seems to be performing an outlandish balancing act. To illustrate, click on a link in the know your candidate section that leads you to Mr Angle's long list of particulars. Under the header 'political and social' status, the fourth listing informs us that Mr Angle has been, "a member of the Consultative Committee Environment and Forest". Allegations, that it was only Mr Shirpad Naik who was Goa's public face in the corridors of power are rendered untrue. While critics had alleged that Mr Angle was a 'non performer', the MP was also doing his unsung bit for Goa, on the crucial committee on Environment and Forest. The committee would do well to listen to his advice, considering the fact that Mr Angle has considerable experience in the 'protecting' forests and 'preserving' environment as the subsequent paragraph on Mr Angle's resume reveals, "Heading a Business organization with 5 proprietary concerns related to Mining Industries and also a promoter of 4 companies dealing in bulk drugs, pharmaceuticals, building construction and ferro-manganese." It simply showcases the diversity of the person's character. That, being a businessman steeped in mining interests -- rather five proprietary concerns related to the industry -- Mr Angle can so easily don the hat of a member of a crucial consultative committee on Environment and Forests. There is more to come. Mr Angle has also been appointed member of Goa State Environment Protection Council. It is generally understood that mining and environment are opposites on the axis of any logical debate. Somehow Mr Angle proves this long-standing dictum wrong. Then there is the link, which takes you to North Goa candidate Shripad Naik's resume. It thankfully lists out all his five ministries in the Central government ministry in chronological order. The portfolios being Agriculture, Shipping, Civil aviation, Road Transport and National Highways and Finance, lest anyone forget the order of progression. Both the resumes go a long way in indicating that the duo are actually as different a chalk and cheese. While Mr Angle merely heads sports associations, with no visible reference to any active participation in sports activity, in comparison Mr Naik is a been-there-done-that kind of a persona. To be more graphic, Mr Angle heads three comparatively obscure sports bodies like the Goa Handball Association, Sanmitra sports club and the Baseball Association of Goa. He serves as secretary for the Gymnastics Association (Goa) and has long standing affiliations with the Salcete Football Club, Cuncolim gymkhana and Taekwondo Association. Mr Naik on the other hand, is an ex NCC cadet with a 'C' Certificate to his credit, along with an award for 'best shooting'. He has also played volley ball and kabbadi at the state level. The merit list finally ends with the mention of him winning the award of the best swimmer in a state level competition. The only other interesting read on the website is a column "bulls-eye" written by Julio D'Silva former journalist and ex- personal assistant to Mr Ramakant Angle, who raises the foreign origin issue vis a vis Sonia Gandhi. The article raises a question as ridiculous as, "In the first place if the Congress President Sonia Gandhi truly loves India and Indianess, why is she still called Madame which is an European or rather Western term?" Surely, if one goes by this logic, the writer would surely take affront to anyone calling him by the title "Sir". Deservedly or otherwise! ENDS ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Free 24hrs Radio-All Konkani Songs (via net)
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[Goanet]4th east African Goan Convention. - Tanzania - Uganda -Kenya.
Goans of East Africa. 0 Dear All, "Photos" of the 4th East African Goan Convention that just took place in Arusha Tanzania are posted on this web page.Enjoy it Regards Doreen http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/goans_tanzanite/lst [EMAIL PROTECTED] 000 fwd : rene barreto WORLD GOA DAY 20th August 2004. 0 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
