[Goanet]Mickky dropped, Matanhy joins Parrikar team - Everyone - all MLAs - 22 - felt Mickky should go???
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Mickky dropped, Matanhy joins Parrikar team PANJIM, JUNE 14, 2004 BY HERALD REPORTER In a surprise political development, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on Monday dropped Tourism and Sports Minister, Mickky Pacheco from his cabinet and appointed UGDPs Cortalim MLA Mathany Saldanha as a minister. A reshuffle of portfolios is also on the cards. The chief minister said that he would conduct a review of all the portfolios in another 3-4 days and have a minor reshuffle of portfolios. During this exercise, Saldanha, a teacher by profession, would be allocated portfolios. The swift move to induct Saldanha into the two-year old ministry and axe Pacheco from the cabinet came as a big surprise in the political circles as the chief minister is required to reduce the size of his ministry to 12 by July 7 as per the new anti-defection law. When he was dropped from the cabinet, Pacheco was on a foreign tour. He left Goa on Saturday, sources said. He was in London (on his way to Miami) when the notification to remove him from the ministry was issued. Saldanha was earlier administered oath of office and secrecy by the Governor Kidar Nath Sahani at a brief ceremony at the Raj Bhavan on Monday. The ceremony began at 3.20 pm. The appointment warrant was read out by the Chief Secretary Mr D S Negi. All the cabinet ministers, North Goa MP Shripad Naik and senior BJP leaders were present on the occasion. Saldanhas wife and supporters also attended the ceremony.The chief minister told a press conference in the evening that he had maintained the number of ministers in his cabinet at 13. He said the decision to drop Pacheco was unanimous. Everyone - all MLAs 22 including ministerial colleagues felt he (Mickky) should go. Asked why Pacheco was dropped, the chief minister said it was because of his style of functioning. His style of functioning didnt match with the overall perception and style of functioning of the ministerial olleagues, the chief minister said.Despite of our efforts, he couldnt be corrected, Parrikar said adding that there was a mismatch. His style of functioning was not ``palatable to him and his ministerial colleagues, he claimed.Asked how long Pachecos style of functioning was an irritant to the government, the chief minister said initially, it was felt that it could be because he was raw but even after one year, he didnt change and slowly it was realised that it had reached a point that there was no hope of he correcting himself.Parrikar declined to answer a pointed question whether Pacheco was defying the chief minister. As reported by this paper, Pacheco had walked out in a huff from the last cabinet meeting accusing the chief minister of not clearing the file on removal of River Princess. Sources in the BJP say that friction between the two were noticed for sometime now. To another question as to whether there were other grounds for the decision, Parrikar said I dont want to go into the details. Parrikar said Pachecos foreign trips was a regular affair and might have added a dimension to the entire issue. He said when one is out (of station), the problem could get aggravated. Replying to another query, he admitted he had not discussed with Pacheco before dropping him from the cabinet. Dropping or inducting a minister is the prerogative of the chief minister, Parrikar reminded. Asked why was there such a hurry in inducting Saldanha into the cabinet, the chief minister said discussions on this matter were going on for around a week. He said he had offered ministership to Saldanha when he took over as the chief minister two years ago (after the last assembly elections) but he (Saldanha) had said Ill wait and see how the government functions. So now I offered him again (which the latter accepted). To another question, the chief minister said Saldanha has his own reputation and shown sincere approach to several important issues affecting Goa. He said the Cortalim MLA would be consulted before allocation him portfolios. He said by July 6 or even before that, he would prune his ministry by one as per the new law. (www.oherald.com) - Forwarded by Gaspar Almeida, www.goa-world.com Link: www.goabjp.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet]AMCHEM GOA - OUR GOA - NOSSA TERRA GOA
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Oscar Hazel Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:49:01 +1000 From: Oscar Hazel Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mates, Sorry for my failure in not endorsing a copy of the appended e-mail. The website was launched last month. When time permits you, please go through the website and pass the address to other Goans in your circle of family and friends. Cheers Oscar - Original Message - From: Oscar Hazel Lobo Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: AMCHEM GOA - OUR GOA - NOSSA TERRA GOA Hi All, I am pleased to inform you, that a new website www.melgoans.com has been created. This website is designed to keep our circa 9000 Goans (in Melbourne) and their friends in touch with our Culture and Heritage. One does not have to be a 'member' to come along for functions; however, one has to have a broad mind to come, enjoy and not to worry ( no worries mate ) in areas of hierarchy or other speculations. Man has conquered the moon but he has yet to conquer the art of togetherness and assimilation. Please enjoy the website and the music and communicate the website address to others who may have a genuine interest in friendship and progression. Until me meet, Meochem maghir, ate logo! Recad tumcam (Regards to you all) Oscar - End forwarded message -
[Goanet] Re: Chukh -- bogus maka, ek chukh zali
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In the email re: Chukh -- few omissions, I got the name of the Girgaum Congresss Block President. His name is Nolasco Gama, NOT Nolasco Dias. Nolasco Dias is famed AIR singer, a colleague of my father. Not sure if he is still alive. He composed and sang many Konkani songs. He wrote a Konkani operata called Amoriche Ghantteo (Bells of the Angelus). I think my father wrote the music for it and later he was joined by Mauro Alphonso, a well-known musician. Or, Alphonso wrote the initial music and then my father was asked to join Alphonso as a team. My memory is not clear on how it worked. I, however, remember that my father and Dias spent hours at my home fine-tuning the music. Then Alphonso would come to my house and all three would sit and do rehearsals with Dias doing the vocals. My father also helped with suggestions in improving the script of the operatta. I won't list my father's limited contribution to songs of a couple of noted singers, who I will not mention now. One thing I will say, my father didn't have high regards for Goan Konkani stage. He appreciated Manglorean Konkani dramas. When growing up, he would tell me that Manglorean dramas were of a higher standard than Goan dramas. He would never decline playing at Manglorean plays, but I don't remember him playing at Goan dramas. He, however, went to see then at Bhangwadi, a stone's throw away from my building in Kalbadevi Road, and I often went with him when I was very young till I was a teenager. Similarly, I accompanied my dad to many Manglorean dramas where he played the violin for bands. Like other aspects of Goan Konkani stage, band groups played politics. He would never sink to that level. He would never ask band leaders to give tue chance to play for tiatrs. Unlike some musicians who played for tiatrs, my dad had a day job working for Indian Navy in the administrative office. He played for the Bombay Orchestra and often substituted at the Andrian de Mello and His String Quartet at the Grand Hotel at Ballard Estate. Since Romaldo wanted to know how many tiatrs I have seen, I must inform him that I have lost count. I would see a tiatr at Bhangwadi more than once. I could just walk in as the stage hands there knew me well. I would go backstage at the middle of a play that I have seen before and engage in conversations with some of them and then come home. Princess Theatre, popularly known as Bhangwadi, was my second home, so to say. Does my background satisfy both Romaldo and Joyce and other supporters of the Alphonso brothers and, in particular, the play, Chukh. Would Romaldo and Joyce like to know more about my background with respect to Konkani theatre? At the same would Romaldo and Joyce be kind enough to tell me your backgrounds with respect to Konkani theatre and how many tiatrs each has watched? Since you'll started this game, including suggesting a conspiracy theory, I have thrown the ball in your courts. Forewarning: Failure to reply would invite harsh comments from me. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet]Abbe Faria, yet again.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Email 'sneezings' all these! I click the Send button once and ... out comes a triple dispatch of the same document on the same day! Looked as if I was bent on having Isabel Vas' article on the great Abbe read by all. That was the story of the posting of the not-so-brief text Abade Faria -- A Forgotten Goan Pioneer? on the 10th instant. Today, it's a slightly different story. The readers may remember my earlier posting -- Abbe Faria remembered -- sent in the small hours of the 10th. It was about a meeting that took place in Panjim, to celebrate the 248th birth anniversary of our hero. Well, I received some three days back, a report on the same meeting, prepared by Matanhy Saldanha, with a request that I send it to the Goanet. Now that he has become a Cabinet Minister, I hasten to send it across ... lest I be brought to book! J. Loiola Pereira. Read on ... CITIZENS FORUM FOR CULTURE AND MUSEUMS P.O. Box 242, Panjim - Goa For favour of Publication on the Goanet The 248th birthday of the great Goan, Abade Faria, was celebrated by a group of citizens at Club Vasco da Gama on the 31st of May, 2004. The chief guest for this celebration, the honourable Minister for Art and Culture, Mr. Ramrao Desai said that it is unfortunate that we Goans are not aware of our own greatness in the form of individuals like Abade Faria and others and thus he said is the reason we forget our own identity. Heritage has to be protected, but everything cannot be classified as heritage. He was very enthusiastic about publishing books on Abade Faria and said that the Government and his Department would definitely help. Mr. Matanhy Saldanha who has spearheaded this movement for the recognition of Great Goans, welcomed the chief guest and said Abade Faria is a son of the soil that is still unknown to many in Goa, and it is imperative that we project our own great men so that the younger generation has role models that can inspire them to great heights and give them a sense of identity they can be proud of. Goa has produced great men but the Goan tendency to remain closeted within the walls of the family has kept this pride of Goa hidden. Mr. Saldanha said that legend has it, that Parashurama created Goa in its natural splendour and we take pride in this, but it is now time to also revel in the greatness of the people of Goa and the great men of Goa belonging to all communities of the Goan society. In this context he requested the Minister to aid the group in publishing books on the lives and works of great Goans. He also said that it is being planned to convert the house of Abade Faria in Candolim into a Museum depicting his life. Prof. Prajal Sakardande also spoke on Abade Faria and his beautiful statue that is almost unnoticed next to the Secretariat, Panjim. He said that the great sculptor responsible for this statue is another great Goan Ramchandra Pandurang Kamat from Madkai. Further he said that Mr Kamat has many sculptures based on themes from the Bible like the Garden of Eden etc. Prof. Sakardande explained, what heritage means and how important it is to one's identity and therefore needs to be protected and preserved. Prof. Isabela Santa Rita Vaz enlightened the gathering on the inspiring life of Abade Faria from his birth to death. She narrated the well known legend which every family in Goa has heard that on his arrival in Portugal, Abade Faria was asked by the Queen D. Maria I to preach to the court. The young priest was struck dumb with stage fright but his father who was sitting nearby noticing his son's nervousness whispered to him in Konkani Cator re baji, hi soglli baji. These words had the desired effect and Abade Faria spoke eloquently and perhaps these same works are responsible for Abade Faria's interest in hypnosis which earned him the title of Father of Hypnotism. Mr. Albano Couto said that Abade Faria was also involved in the first war for Independence namely the Pinto Revolution. His contribution towards hypnotism is immense. Similarly there are other great Goans he said Mr. Alban Couto, and remembered in particular Dr. Dharmanand Kossambe from Sancoale. Others who spoke on the occasion are Prof. Sergio Carvalho, Dr. Celsa Pinto, Alina Saldanha and Sabina Martins. At the end Mr. Saldanha gave the vote of thanks and expressed his gratitude in particular to Mr. Francisco Martins due to whose effort, zeal and enthusiasm the function became a reality. He thanked the Minister for his precious time and support. He also thanked the core group for their contribution and all the dignitaries present. The programme was compered by the
[Goanet]Learning Konkani and Hindi
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I live in Southall in Middlesex and have been trying to find a place locally where I can learn Konkani and Hindi since I eventually plan to move to Goa. However I have not been able to find any lessons. I realise this is not a necessity since most Goans speak English but I feel it would help me. Can anyone tell me where I can find lessons like this in my area. Thanks Rebecca O'Leary
[Goanet]Anna University's seats for NRIs...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ANNA UNIVERSITY of Chennai (formerly Madras) 600025 recently advertised the availability of seats -- in the B.E, B.Tech, B.Arch Degree Courses -- for the academic year 2004-2005 from foreign nationals and non-resident Indians at the Anna Univ's constituent colleges and government engineering colleges of Tamil Nadu. Application forms can be obtained by downloading them from the website http://www.annauniv.edu/adm June 30 is the last date for applying. One understands that fees for these courses are higher than what is charged from local students. Just fyi, in case it might be of interest to anyone. FN -- - Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa, India f r e d @ b y t e s f o r a l l . o r g Ph 832.2409490 / 832.2409783 Cell 9822 122436 784 Near Lourdes Convent, Sonarbhat, Saligao 403511 Goa -
[Goanet]Jokes
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## *** Jokes *** Diner: Watch out! Your thumbs in my soup! Waiter: Don't worry, Sir, it's not that hot! *** *** *** A waiter brings the customer the steak he ordered with his thumb over the meat. Are you crazy? yelled the customer, with your hand on my steak? What answers the waiter, You want it to fall on the floor again? *** *** *** Waiter: Tea or coffee, gentlemen? 1st customer: I'll have tea. 2nd customer: Me, too - and be sure the glass is clean! (Waiter exits, returns) Waiter: Two teas. Which one asked for the clean glass? *** *** *** Customer: Give me a hot dog. Waiter: With pleasure. Customer: No, with mustard. *** *** *** Anisa Fernandes.
[Goanet]Outsourced prayers
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From The New York Times of June 13 By SARITHA RAI BANGALORE, India - With Roman Catholic clergy in short supply in the United States, Indian priests are picking up some of their work, saying Mass for special intentions, in a sacred if unusual version of outsourcing. American, as well as Canadian and European churches, are sending Mass intentions, or requests for services like those to remember deceased relatives and thanksgiving prayers, to clergy in India. In Kerala, a state on the southwestern coast with one of the largest concentrations of Christians in India, churches often receive intentions from overseas. The Masses are conducted in Malayalam, the native language. The intention - often a prayer for the repose of the soul of a deceased relative, or for a sick family member, thanksgiving for a favor received, or a prayer offering for a newborn - is announced at Mass. The requests are mostly routed to Kerala's churches through the Vatican, the bishops or through religious bodies. Rarely, prayer requests come directly to individual priests. While most requests are made via mail or personally through traveling clergymen, a significant number arrive via e-mail, a sign that technology is expediting this practice. In Kerala's churches, memorial and thanksgiving prayers conducted for local residents are said for a donation of 40 rupees (90 cents), whereas a prayer request from the United States typically comes with $5, the Indian priests say. Bishop Sebastian Adayanthrath, the auxiliary bishop of the Ernakulam-Angamaly diocese in Cochin, a port town in Kerala, said his diocese received an average of 350 Mass intentions a month from overseas. Most were passed to needy priests. In Kerala, where priests earn $45 a month, the money is a welcome supplement, Bishop Adayanthrath said. But critics of the phenomenon said they were shocked that religious services were being sent offshore, or outsourced, a word normally used for clerical and other office jobs that migrate to countries with lower wages. In London, Amicus, the labor union that represents 1.2 million British workers, called on the government and workers to treat outsourcing as a serious issue. In a news release, David Fleming, national secretary for finance of Amicus said the assignment of prayers shows that no aspect of life in the West is sacred.'' The very fabric of the nation is changing,'' he said. We need to have a long, hard think about what the future is going to look like. However, congregations in Kerala say the practice of ordering prayers is several decades old. The church is not a business enterprise, and it is sad and pathetic to connect this practice to outsourcing software work to cheaper labor destinations,'' said the Rev. Vincent Kundukulam of St. Joseph Pontifical Seminary in Aluva, near Cochin. In Bangalore's Dharmaram College, Rector James Narithookil said he often received requests for Mass intentions from abroad, which he distributed among the 50 priests in his seminary. Most of the requests from the United States were for requiems, with donations of $5 to $ 10, he said. Bishop Adayanthrath said sending Mass intentions overseas was a way for rich churches short on priests to share and support smaller churches in poorer parts of the world. The Rev. Paul Thelakkat, a Cochin-based spokesman for the Synod of Bishops of the Syro-Malabar Church, said, The prayer is heartfelt, and every prayer is treated as the same whether it is paid for in dollars, euros or in rupees. _ Lifestyle, fashion, beauty. News, events n relationships. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/women/ Exclusively for the fairer sex.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Chukh -- late reply
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## There are a few incomplete sentences in the email I sent earlier. I would also like to add few new comments, particularly since one Romaldo Dias has also questioned my credentials to write reviews. Murli Deora was municipal councillor and later MP for South Bombay. I think at the time of forming the critics' panel, he was president of the Bombay Pradesh Congress Committee. It was a Goan, Nolasco Dias, who was president of the Girgaum Congress Block, who approached Orlando a trophy donated by Murli Deora. Nolasco and Orlando, I think, lived in the same lane, the former Dukurwadi. Nolasco, I think he is from Cuncolim, was well-known among Goan tarvottis. Nolasco wanted to be close to Deora and this was one chance to suck up to the Congress boss. I never asked to be shown the trophy because I was never a part of the panel. And I was in shock when the Man of the Year award was announced at the open-air Rang Bhavan Auditorium (I think it was at that venue, if memory serves me right) saying that I was a member of the panel who voted for Boyer. I am not sure if the Man of the Year award was given to Christopher Leitao, the late tiatrist, or it was some other award. To tell a secret, Christopher, was a favourite of Orlando and when Chris and Meena, his tiatrist wife, delived a child, Orlando become the child's godfather. As I said in my earlier post, friendships and alliances form part of Konkani theatre. Deora was a wheeler-dealer, very pro-American. When I covered the Municipal Council occasionally, he complained to the owner of Free Press Journal about me. His complaint was that I wasn't giving him enough coverage. The FPJ owner, a Marwari like Deora, questioned the editor and the editor, in turn, asked the chief reporter. I told the chief reporter that Deora was hardly present in the chamber during question period and when he was there he hardly spoke much. The chief reporter defended me. One of biggest suprises in Indian politics was that Deora was never made a minister though he represented one of the richest constituencies in India. Congress High Command knew about his deals and they didn't want a minister who would be the target of the media. He was bad for the Congress image. South Bombay is a prestigious seat that was once represented by S.K. Patil, known as Kingmaker in Bombay, who was dethroned by George Fernandes. I think George lost to Deora. Deora, in the election previous to the recently-concluded one, lost to Jayantiben Shah (I hope I got her name correctly) of the BJP. However, Deora's son, Milind, avenged his father's defeat in the recent elections by beating out Jayantiben. On the Cine Times issue, I was later told that the CT guys hated Ophelia for some differences they had with her. These guys, especially Elliot de Elly, who was with All-India Radio's Konkani section, and who edited the paper though the official editor was his brother, Enclidas, had their own axes to grind. They bullied and they threatened triatrists. Triatrists were scared of getting bad publicity as CT was read widely by Goans, especially those who lived in kudds. Their third brother was James de Elly, who was a tiatrist/singer, though not very successful. The paper once denounced Souza Ferrao as being too old and called upon him to retire. They said the veteran actor was shaking while acting. Ferrao was once their neighbour in the same building in Dhobitalao. He told me lot of things about the family. I once asked someone close to them as to how they got the surname de Elly. A story hangs over the surname. Elliot was the person who ruined the family life of Cyriaco and Jessie Dias, both triatists. I had warned Cyriaco in Bombay to beware. When Cyriaco came to Toronto from the Middle East to attend the First International Goan Convention in 1988, he said to me, Eugene, I should have taken your hint. Cyriaco's marriage ended, though not sure if he and Jessie were legally divorced. He asked me if I knew that Elliot had died. I said I read about it. He told me that Elliot had a stroke and was suffering before he died. Cyriaco felt God had punished Elliot for his deeds. Regarding Prem Kumar, I reviewed his play (forget the name) with the heading, Failure Amidst Success, which was given by the copy desk. The review appeared in the Free Press Bulletin, an evening paper, a sister-publication of the daily, Free Press Journal. He met me that day and I told him the review has appeared. He went and bought at least a dozen copies of the paper. Not knowing much of English, he showed the paper to someone who told him the review was favourable to him. He took a copy to
Re: [Goanet]MORE KONKANI PROVERBS!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Domnic Bab rest of Goanetters! I think, Tony Fernandes will be able to tell us if proverbs in his book are new or from our list. As for Edd Bab's response, these proverbs are not my own, but as I said, I compiled them from Goanet - Domnic, Ciprian, myself and others These are the original ones (mix of North and south Goa) and not taken from any book. As for my proverbs I heard these from my mai/pai and some Konkani songs/tiatrs. The proverb 'Ghavo tuca, Dukh maka was title of the Tiatr (2nd prize winner in KA) I witnessed recently in Goa. Regards Eddie Verdes Jeddah/KSA - Original Message - From: domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: [Goanet]MORE KONKANI PROVERBS! Dear Eddie Bab, Thanks for your quick response. I am not questioning your recent 11 new proverbs they are new to us on Goanet and were not included in the list that was compiled by you and posted on Goanet on October 20, 2003. This list contained 315 proverbs which many of us contributed - my contribution was 132 proverbs. What I am interested to know is whether the 150 Konkani proverbs and sayings included in Tony Fernandes book are new (by him) or if they are from our above mentioned list that was posted on Goanet for free consumption of Goanetters. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA Dear Domnic Bab, I have compiled all the proverbs which were posted on Goanet last year, and also circulated to some of the goanetters who requested me. There are about 334 proverbs in this file, and these are new ones which I added to the file. I have not read Tony's book, and these are definately not from his book.
