Re: [Goanet] Misinformation on Carbon Monoxide, etc

2005-01-18 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For a discussion by an environmental expert who
 provides an opposing view to that Santosh pushes
 visit the University of Virginia web site:
 www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/michaels.shtml


For a criticism of the opinions, views and papers of
Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, the environmental expert
referred to above, please see the following:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Patrick_J._Michaels

Here are a couple of critical statements about his
views and contributions to science from two of his
peers:

Dr. John Holdren, Professor of Environmental Policy at
Harvard University testified to the U.S. Senate
Republican Policy Committee, presumably under oath, in
this way:
Michaels is another of the handful of US
climate-change contrarians... He has published little
if anything of distinction in the professional
literature, being noted rather for his shrill op-ed
pieces and indiscriminate denunciations of virtually
every finding of mainstream climate science. 

Dr. Peter Gleick, President of Pacific Institute for
Studies in Development, Environment and Security made
the following public statement, which withstood a
legal threat of filing a defamation suit:
Pat Michaels is not one of the nation's leading
researchers on climate change. On the contrary, he is
one of a very small minority of nay-sayers who
continue to dispute the facts and science about
climate change in the face of compelling,
overwhelming, and growing evidence.

 
Unfortunately, anyone who remembers basic chemistry
would know that carbon monoxide cannot stay as carbon
monoxide for a few hours in the atmosphere without
turning into carbon dioxide.
 

The above statement is false. Carbon monoxide can
persist in the atmosphere for upto 2 months. It has an
atmospheric lifetime of 1 - 2 months. To find out more
about this please see the following scientific paper
published by the American Geophysical Union by Dr. M.
A. K. Khalil, an expert on atmospheric carbon
monoxide.
http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/khalil.html

The current steady-state level of carbon monoxide in
the atmosphere is 0.19 parts per million or 0.19%.
This level can go up to more than 30 parts per million
or 0.003% in urban areas. Here is a link for this and
other information on carbon monoxide pollution
provided by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency:
http://www.pca.state.mn.us/air/emissions/co.html

Cheers,

Santosh





[Goanet]mea culpa

2005-01-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Peter D'Souza rightly pointed my mistake in writing
Sanjay Gandhi as PM. It was Rajiv, no doubt.
I may have made other errors, and the one I noticed
while scrolling through the stories on goanet is that
I said Chair in the story on entertainment. It
should be American Chai.
Filing stories for both a Toronto paper and India West
in San Francisco at the media centre at the end of an
exhausting day was painful, more so because of the
prevailing conditions in the media centre.
The centre was noisy, crowded and badly organized. The
Press Information Bureau (PIB) officials were not very
helpful. I and many others had lot of problems with
them, from getting our media passes to special
police clearance to cover the last day when the
president spoke.
It was so frustrating that I yelled at one of them,
who behaved as a big-shot babu. Despite a senior
official telling one of the junior officials to issue
me a pass, after showing him the credentials and also
the messages from the Consul General in Toronto to the
MEA, he behaved in a rude manner.
He had given me a hard time on the inaugural day,
keeping me outside the gate for more than a hour until
a senior official issued me an invite. This guy told
me I would not be allowed to cover as I didn't have a
J visa, issued for journalists.
Even telling him that I came via Dubai where a tourist
visa was issued to me, he was adamant. Ultimately, I
got the pass. I had applied in November 2004 and I had
a copy of the email that the Toronto Consulate had
sent to the MEA in the same month. The applications
had to be routed through Indian diplomatic missions.
But no excuse for mistakes. As many journalists would
vouch, when faced with deadline and with more than one
story to write, it is a race against time. Errors crop
in and, hence, there are desk people who must catch
such mistakes.

Eugene






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[Goanet]Plot with House for sale in Moira

2005-01-18 Thread Cecil Pinto
Location: Satapurio, Moira (3 kms from Mapusa), Goa
Size of Property: 2100 sq mtrs.
Description: A section of a gentle hill leading up to the Moira Club
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[Goanet]History of the Beauty Pageant - by Michael Sones

2005-01-18 Thread Cecil Pinto
History of the Beauty Pageant
by Michael Sones
One of the first beauty contests took place in the mists of mythic time 
when Paris of Troy had to choose which of three beauties was the most comely.

Helen was the daughter of the Greek god Zeus and Leda, who was the wife of 
Tyndareus. Zeus approached Leda in the form of a swan. Helen was born from 
this union and she was the sister of the Dioscuri, the twins Castor and 
Pollux, who were renowned for their bravery and skills at fighting. Helen 
was renowned as the most beautiful woman in the world. Theseus, who had 
killed the Minotaur, carried her off as a child but the Dioscuri rescued 
her. All of the kings of Greece wanted to marry her because of her beauty 
and courted her. To save conflict between them Odysseus suggested that they 
let Helen choose and then all agree to protect her husband. She chose 
Menelaus but was later kidnapped by Paris, the son of Priam and Hecuba of 
Troy. At Zeus' command Paris had been the judge at a beauty contest and had 
to choose which of the goddesses Hera, Athene, or Aphrodite was the 
fairest. He chose Aphrodite who had promised him the most beautiful woman 
in the world for his wife. He carried Helen off which did not please 
Menelaus and so the Greeks set sail to Troy. The Trojan war lasted ten years.

While modern beauty contests have almost always been dogged by controversy 
we are not aware of any which have started a war. However, in 1921 a few 
hoteliers hatched the idea of staging a local beauty bathing contest on the 
shores of Atlantic City as part of a larger plan to get vacationers to stay 
in town beyond Labour Day Weekend. They almost certainly had no idea of the 
tradition and institution they were starting.

The Great War had ended a few years before and it was the beginning of the 
Roaring Twenties. Women had made an enormous contribution to the war effort 
on the home front and this had led to a change in the way they saw 
themselves. Many no longer felt that they had to remain quiet and corseted 
at home. Ten years previously the idea of bathing beauties would probably 
have never seen the light of day but now, with strict Victorian principles 
being challenged everywhere, the idea had immediate appeal to enough people 
that eight beauty finalists were chosen from photo entries to local Eastern 
newspapers.

Miss Margaret Gorman, representing Miss Washington, D.C., was the first 
Miss America. Only 16, she was said to bear a strong resemblance to Mary 
Pickford the legendary matinee idol of the silent screen. The following 
year the contest was held again and that year's winner was Mary Katherine 
Campbell. She won the following year as well and it was decided after that 
to bring in a rule that no one could win twice.

As the contest increased in popularity, more contestants entered. The 
following year the rules had to be amended once again when it was 
discovered that Miss Alaska, Heidi Leiderman, was neither a miss, nor 
from Alaska. Instead she was a married woman hailing from New York.

The arrival of the Great Depression at the end of the 1920's saw the 
postponement of the Miss America contest until 1932 when it was revived in 
Wildwood, New Jersey. That year it was won by Dorothy Hann. 50,000 
onlookers proved that while it had been gone for three years, the Miss 
America contest had not been forgotten. It returned to its original home in 
Atlantic City the following year under new management and a new banner, The 
Variety Showman's Jubilee. The winner, Marian Bergeron, broke with 
tradition in being the first to be crowned wearing an evening gown instead 
of a swimsuit. Controversy ensued when it was revealed that she was 
underage and only 15! Should she be disqualified? The waters were further 
muddied when her crown was stolen from her hotel room and the contest was a 
financial failure. The good news for Marian was that she was allowed to 
keep the title and hold it for two years as there was no contest the 
following year.

In 1935 the pageant was resurrected again under the successful directorship 
of Lenora Slaughter. Hollywood by now was really coming into its own and 
the Miss America contest was seen by some as being a fast track to 
acquiring the fame and fortune of the Hollywood Stars. Movie moguls such as 
Howard Hughes also saw the potential of these young, beautiful women as 
future starlets. Dorothy Lamour was one such contestant who went on to 
become a glamorous movie star.

The contest however continued to be haunted by unexpected and 
publicity-bringing events. In 1937 the winner, Miss Bette Cooper, 
disappeared in the night. Speculation about her disappearance abounded; had 
she sacrificed her place on the beauty throne for the love of her life, as 
the heir to the English throne had? Pictures in the papers featured an 
empty throne, surrounded by runners-up. In the end, the truth was much more 
banal. The young woman had persuaded her chaperone to take her back home 

[Goanet]Global dumbing/global warming

2005-01-18 Thread Cecil Pinto
Global Dumbing?
by: Gary Whittaker
I am beginning to wonder if scientists have been getting it all wrong. All 
this time, people have been worried about the Ozone, or a giant asteroid, 
or some breakout of a bio-hazardous agent by a terrorist organization being 
the doom of mankind. We have spent all this time looking outward instead of 
inward towards ourselves.

The latest studies have identified two startling facts: 1 - that the whole 
in the Ozone layer is getting smaller, and 2 - that the brightness levels 
on the earth are getting dimmer. Does this all mean that Global Warming is 
all just a sham? Does it mean that the corporations who continue to abuse 
our earth with reckless abandon have been right all along? That 
tree-hugging hippies have had their brains melted from too much LSD?

Scientists seem to be getting dumber in direct proportion to the grants 
given to them by governments, which are lobbied. of course, by corporate 
interests. They have looked at the new Global Dimming phenomenon and said, 
It can't be getting warming with less sunlight! And no doubt that as this 
new story makes it rounds about the Ozone getting smaller, they will point 
to the great job done by their benefactors at reducing Green House 
emissions and say that the Ozone must be replenishing itself.

Statements like those should be judged as criminal, just as tobacco 
companies should be held accountable for the deaths of all their consumers. 
The population must be made aware of the truth behind their corporate 
agenda. We, the working class, are the ones that can control our future, 
and dictate to those Ozone depleting companies our new terms. We demand 
clean air. We demand that pollutants stop being poured into our waters. We 
demand our forests not be cut down faster than we can replant. We demand 
alternate, safer energy sources to heat our homes, and power our vehicles. 
We demand all this because our Earth is dying before our own eyes.

The whole in the Ozone layer has gotten smaller, but at the cost of thinner 
protection worldwide. We are not just talking about a gap over Antarctica. 
We are talking about more harmful radiation being let in on a yearly, 
monthly, daily basis. We used to be able to send out our children to play 
outside all day. No one needed any sunscreen with special UV protection. 
Now, one has to only go outside for 20 minutes before feeling the sting of 
the sun, while sunscreen industry has become big business. No one will 
react until research tells us 15 to 30 years from now that cancer has reach 
epidemic proportions. The warning signs are there already, we are just 
choosing not to listen.

Global Dimming is the best example yet. Scientists have started to look at 
how it has become increasing dimmer on the planet. Sunlight is not getting 
through as it once used to. It is only normal to think that whatever is 
keeping the sunlight out, must be keeping the heat in. And whatever is 
keeping the sunlight out is not necessarily providing us with a layer of 
protection. More likely, it is beginning to coat our planet with more 
harmful cancer causing radiation.

While I do not profess to hold a degree in science, I do profess to hold 
common sense. All science has done is identify several situations, but has 
done nothing to confirm how we got there, and what we need to do to get 
back to where we were. My belief is that there may be too much corporate 
interference for any decisive action to be taken. And for the companies who 
will continue to pollute our environment, that is equal to victory. The 
worst thing that we can do as a population, is to add Global Dumbing to the 
list. Get smart, take action. You may not be able to make a difference 
individually, but together, you can effect change. We may always live in a 
world that separates the rich from the poor, but that does not mean that we 
have to accept how those in power secure their wealth.

* Take public transit
* Buy hybrid cars. Create the market and force companies to move away from 
their alliances with Oil Companies, and forge new ones with alternate 
energy sources.

* Get more active, in physically, with your family, and in your community
* Read labels and ask questions
* Write to your representative
We have the power as consumers to change our purchasing habits. Force 
companies to hear our plea by talking the only language they understand: 
net profit. If we take away their profits, they will hear us in volume!

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Source:
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[Goanet]Fw: GOA MEMBERS OF LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (REMOVAL OF DISQUALIFICATION) (AMENDMENT BILL 2005)

2005-01-18 Thread goasuraj

- Original Message -
From: goasuraj
To: GOVERNOR OF GOA
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: GOA MEMBERS OF LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (REMOVAL OF
DISQUALIFICATION) (AMENDMENT BILL 2005)


Our Ref: GSRP/GOG/ADB/01/05

January 19, 2005

Your Excellency,

Subject: January 13 Passing of Goa Members of Legislative Assembly (Removal)
of Disqualification) (Amendment Bill, 2005).
 ---
--

Goa Su-Raj Party  holds you and your Office in highest of esteem. In the
above context, as the constitutional head of the State of Goa, it is our
belief that you will act in the most appropriate and deserving manner to put
your honoured  seal  of  acceptance or refusal on
Continued overleaf:-

 the  Bill to maintain the trust of the people of Goa in the Secular
Democratic Constitution of our nation.

Thanking you,

Yours faithfully,
for Goa Su-Raj Party.
Sd/-
(Floriano C. Lobo)
President.

To:
Shri. S.C. Jamir,
Governor of Goa,
Raj Bhavan,
Dona Paula,
Goa.





[Goanet]Re: Notice: jc dropping out of Mario Goveia's education class - too tough for me.

2005-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Dear, dear Dr. Jose,
 
I love you, man, but it's against the Geneva Convention on internet debate to 
declare a unilateral ceasefire right after firing a barrage of verbal 
missiles, even before they have landed on their target. (That was a joke.)
 
We should agree to disagree, not fire missiles and than declare a unilateral 
cease fire.
 
I am disappointed in how you find ideas in my carefully crafted communications 
that do not exist.  For example, I never said it was all about oil.  The 
point is that the US guarantees the free flow of oil, which we all depend on, 
especially Europe and Japan, though oil may not mean much to you bicycle-
riding, wind-surfing, cricket-playing Bahamians and your non-industrial 
economy.
 
You will be glad to hear that I am waiving my normal fee, because you are 
correct.  You are not ready for a serious course in geopolitics.  That 
requires a knowledge of UN resolutions and UN ultimatums and the how the US 
waits for the UN to exhaust its options before acting, which it did after 12 
years in Iraq.  You see the liberation of Muslims from a brutal Muslim 
dictator as a double standard.  You want the US to intervene willy nilly 
wherever you choose, but not where you do not choose.  You see the ending of 
colonialism in Goa as an invasion as if Goa were a sovereign country.  I'm 
not surprised that you are dazed at how the world works from your idyllic 
vantage point, with no responsibility for others who are being oppressed 
either expected or provided.
 
I am also disappointed, as I always am with you lefties, who are so selective 
in your choice of whose violence you choose to oppose.  When Saddam was 
brutalizing his neighbors, his own people, and conducting a dictatorship as a 
minority by killing anyone who opposed him, you were silent.  When the Taliban 
were brutalizing Afghanistan and whipping women in the street and preventing 
girls from an education, you were silent.  It was none of your business.  
After all that was just Muslims brutalizing other Muslims.  When the US then 
leads a coalition to stop the brutality, you are suddenly awakened from your 
xit-codi and home made miskut induced slumber and are outraged.  They are 
making poixe you thunder illogically, catching the bull by the tail.  How 
dare they liberate anyone and make poixe, you ask?  Apparently, poixe must 
only be made by accepting brutality and avoiding violence selectively.
 
Why aren't you preaching your less violent methods to al Qaeda and Bin Laden, 
who declared war on America at the height of Bill Clinton's Dr. Jose Colaco-
oriented foreign policy?  Those less violent methods by the US throughout the 
90s only served to embolden them leading directly to 9/11.  You seem to be 
blissfully unaware that innocent people were dying before April 2003 in Iraq, 
the aim of the liberation was to stop the killing in Iraq and the potential 
killing elsewhere, albeit at the cost of some lives in the process.
 
The most violent conflict in modern history, WW-II, was violence being 
confronted by violence, and was followed by decades of peace, with former 
enemies now friends and allies.  

Enjoy the sun, sand and cricket.  Let's agree to disagree and hopefully we can 
share some xit-codi and home made miskut some day with some fine caju fenny as 
well.



[Goanet]book on cuncolim by Fr. Planton Faria

2005-01-18 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
Fr Planton Faria from Cuncolim is writing a book on cuncolim highlighting all 
the leading lights of Cuncolim

the book is due for release shortly.



[Goanet]Maria Aurora Couto's yearend remarks on Goa

2005-01-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Date:06/01/2005 

URL: 
  
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/01/06/stories/2005010604721000.htm


Opinion - Leader Page Articles


Dangerous currents

By Maria Aurora Couto


History and memory need to be recovered by both the Hindu and Catholic 
communities of Goa but not with crude productions that distort and telescope 
unrelated events to create divisive hatreds.



Re: [Goanet]Re: Bush abandons hunt for Saddam's WMD

2005-01-18 Thread Mervyn Lobo
George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a high school parking lot here in California
 yesterday, Lance Cpl. Andres Raya, 19, a Marine
 who just returned from Iraq, shot and killed a
 police officer and wounded another before he was
 shot to death by a police officer. His family blames
 his traumatic service in Iraq for him losing
 it yesterday.
 
 Two dead, one seriously wounded. Bush's illegal war
 in Iraq is taking a direct toll here at home too.
 


George,
If you ever wondered why there is no list of names of
those who died because of Bush's misadventure in Iraq,
the following may help.
Mervyn2.0


The Voice of the White House.
http://tbrnews.org 

January 12, 2005: Several interesting items, one only
amusing and the other serious. The Bush people have
received so many very serious death threats aimed at
Our Beloved Leader that they might as
well put a dummy in the Presidential limo on
inauguration day. No one will talk about the volume
and apparent seriousness of these ongoing threats and
neither will they talk about the ACTUAL DEATH
TOLLS IN IRAQ!

You have been posting only the official figures which
are not accurate. These OFFICIAL figures indicate
about 1,400 are dead and perhaps 4,000 wounded.
Actually, and I have seen the figures from the
Pentagon, over 8,000 are dead and over 15,000 are
wounded, some maimed for life…blind, missing legs and
arms or with the prospect of spending the rest of
their young lives confined to a wheelchair in a
Vets hospital with a permanent piss bag tied to a leg.

This is the greatest secret and holds the greatest
fear for the Bush people. If the public ever finds out
the truth, they will lynch him and his fascist
co-workers in about ten minutes. Already, parents
are wondering why their son's name is not on official
lists and this number is growing every day.

This is the real reason why Bush forbade any pictures
being taken of arriving caskets at Dover. All even an
idiot would have to do would be to count the daily
supermarket checkout and the rat would be out
of the bag. This nasty business has real legs and even
the dullard Bush is terrified.

Rigid censorship has been clamped down by the Pentagon
on any information and especially the following truly
horrible news: The Arabs have captured a number of GIs
and have tortured them terribly before chopping of
their heads which they defile by dumping into a
well-used latrine. Their statements are that since the
US under Bush
has ignored the Geneva Treaty and tortured prisoners
of war and executed a number of them plus God knows
how many unarmed civilians, they will kill every GI
they capture.

Beheaded and terribly mutilated bodies are quickly
grabbed by special teams of GI undertakers, hidden
away and sent home in sealed caskets or cremated in a
large oven in downtown Baghdad. This is one of the
reasons why there are so many suicides and so many
desertions among the terrified troops. This
really awful business is a top priority secret but I
will make the shits happy by letting it out and if I
can get the actual figures, I will give them to you,
names and all, to post alongside the official
lies.

Why don't you ask survivors to send you the names of
their lost sons and husbands and then check them
against the Pentagon Lie List? Better, publish the
entire roster of Official Dead and ask anyone
whose relatives, sons or husbands are not on it to
contact you. You are in the position of doing all of
us a great favor if you do. 

 




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Re: [Goanet]Re: Religious Stamps

2005-01-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Santosh, the OED defines secular as 1. not
religious, sacred, or spiritual. 2 (of clergy) not
subject to or bound by religious rule.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/secular?view=uk
 
Based on this quote from Chuck Colson's latest
column, I am inclined to believe that the American
English definition is not very different: Why do
militant secularists attempt to snuff out religious
practice, 
 

Peter,

As I said before, the word secularism or secular
has many meanings. The above compact version of Oxford
dictionary gives only two of those multiple meanings.
Even so, as Jose said, the second meaning above
recognizes that there may be religious priests who are
secular in their outlook. If you refer to an expanded
version of Oxford English dictionary, you will find
that the word secular has over 15 different
meanings. You will need a subscription for this, but
here is the link for the word secular in that version
of the Oxford dictionary:
http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50218143?single=1query_type=wordqueryword=secularfirst=1max_to_show=10

I submit to you that the word secular or secularism,
as it is commonly used in India (and raised in
reference to Fr. Cosme J. Costa), invokes the sense in
which this word is used in the Indian Constitution,
which, in short, is to refer to its commitment to
religious pluralism. I don't know whether you know
this, but the preamble of the Indian Constitution
defines India as a secular democratic republic.

Secularism as enshrined in the Constitution of India
is described by the Vice Chancellor of Goa University,
Prof. P. R. Dubhashi in the following manner:

Secularism has been one of the essential elements in
the basic structure of our Constitution which lays
down that 1) the state has no religion; 2) all
citizens however have the fundamental right to follow
and propagate their own religion; and 3) it is the
duty of the state to protect life, liberty and
property of all citizens, provide security to them and
enable them to exercise their fundamental rights. The
state will not discriminate between the citizens on
the grounds of religion and language.

The above quote is taken from an article entitled
Meaning of Secularism by P. R. Dubhashi. Here is the
link to that article:
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/op/2002/06/11/stories/2002061100020200.htm

The militant secularists of Chuck Colson is a mean
spirited pejorative usage, which is unfortunately not
unique to American politics. Religious chauvinists
everywhere are fond of using that term, often to vent
their hatred of people who disagree with them or who
are indifferent to religion in general. The Hindutva
zealots in India use the same term to describe those
who oppose their views and policies. In their view
Jawaharlal Nehru, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad and Mahatma
Gandhi, who personified the spirit of secularism in
the founding of modern India, are militant
secularists.

Cheers,

Santosh



Re: [Goanet]Pravasi Divas

2005-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Sanjay Gandhi was never the PM.  He was an MP until he
was killed in a plane crash.  His airline pilot
brother, Rajiv, was then induced to enter politics and
became PM before being assassinated.

--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 | Pitroda, Bhagwati, Shyamalan among awardees
 |
 | by Eugene Correia
 |
 | Mumbai: Fifteen people of Indian origin were
honoured with the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Awards on
the concluding day of the third Pravasi Divas in
Mumbai on Jan. 9. Three of them are based in the
United States -- Dr. Sam Pitroda, the man who
pioneered the telecommunications era in modern India
as Technology Advisor to the late Indian Prime
Minister Sanjay Gandhi, Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati, of
Columbia. 
 
 When was Sanjay Gandhi Prime Minister?
 
 Another great editorial by Jagdish Bhagwati in
 today's Wall Street Journal.
 
 Peter




Re: [Goanet]Re: Global dimming/global warming

2005-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Ronald Albuquerque wrote:
 A correction here. The Cato Institute is not an
*independent* think-tank. Rather, it is a libertarian
think-tank.
 
For further clarification, look no further than how
the Cato Institute describes itself:
 http://www.cato.org/about/about.html
 
Mario replies:
Libertarians do consider themselves to be independent
relative to conservatives and liberals in the US
political spectrum.

From the Cato Institute web site:
Cato's Mission
The Cato Institute seeks to broaden the parameters of
public policy debate to allow consideration of the
traditional American principles of limited government,
individual liberty, free markets and peace. Toward
that goal, the Institute strives to achieve greater
involvement of the intelligent, concerned lay public
in questions of policy and the proper role of
government. 

Ronald, thanks for warning us that they allow
consideration of the traditional American principles
of limited government, individual liberty, free
markets and peace.  They must definitely be biased
against socialism.



Re: [Goanet]Bush abandons hunt for Saddam's WMD

2005-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, George Bush's intelligence sent 1,300 young
 Americans to their deaths. And thats not the bad
 news.
 The bad news is that the American youth in Iraq are
 getting killed at a higher rate every passing day.
 
Mario replies:
1. It was intelligence believed by the entire world
community since 1991, ten years before George Bush
became US president, and decided that 12 years of
defying the UN was enough.

2. 1,300 American dead, and 10,000 wounded, though sad
and unfortunate, is not the criterion by which such
momentous decisions are made, and the Americans who
died understood that and had volunteered to risk their
lives in the service they provided for others.

3. Americans are not getting killed at a higher rate. 
The bad news is that the insurgents are targeting and
killing innocent Iraqis in an attempt to terrorize
them.  It is not working as almost 15 million have
registered to vote, including several Sunnis.  The
good news is that Grand-Ayatollah Ali al Sistani has
issued a fatwa to Shias that they should vote.

The worst news is that people like Mervyn continue
their drumbeat of opposition to the liberation of
Iraq, while living safely in a system of freedom and
democracy.  Apparently it's fine for them, but not for
the Iraqis.




Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Global dimming/global warming

2005-01-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Santosh Helekar says:
No reasonable person would regard it as common sense
to question the motives of a professional scientist
simply because his scientific findings are
inconsistent with one's preconceived unscientific
ideology. Most reasonable people would regard it as
prejudice borne out of scientific ignorance and/or an
ideological agenda.

Mario replies:
As I have said before, this is the gullible school of
environmentalism, which ignores all the contradictory
evidence on global warming in order to make claims of
the future based on phony readings of computer models.
 Garbage in garbage out.

The environmental alarmist movement is dominated by
researchers looking for grant money, and socialists
who see this as their last hope of bringing western
industry down to the lowest common denominator, which
is why they exempt India and China from their
suggested solutions.

For a discussion by an environmental expert who
provides an opposing view to that Santosh pushes visit
the University of Virginia web site:
www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/michaels.shtml

Finally, Santosh says: 0.02% of carbon monoxide in the
atmosphere can kill you in a few hours. 
Unfortunately, anyone who remembers basic chemistry
would know that carbon monoxide cannot stay as carbon
monoxide for a few hours in the atmosphere without
turning into carbon dioxide.






[Goanet]GoanetReader -- Beauty pageants booming in Goa, but at a price

2005-01-18 Thread GoanetReader
BEAUTY PAGEANTS BOOMING IN GOA, BUT SURELY AT A PRICE

By Bindu Vaz
vaz_bindu at rediffmail.com 

What's wrong with looking beautiful?  What is so bad about being
judged the most beautiful girl in Goa?  What is so ugly about
putting yourself up for public scrutiny?  Nothing. There's nothing
wrong, especially considering the enormous perks that come with
being a Beauty Queen.  The money, the adoration, the red-carpet
treatment and the big boost to your self-esteem.

Nothing wrong at all if you can only ignore a few examples like the
following:

Liposuction operation leaves 24-year old Miss Russia in coma.  Doctors say
she has little chances of ever waking up.

Nafisa Joseph -- former Miss India -- commits suicide over a failed
relationship.

Miss India runner-up is stripped of her title after organisers find out that
she lied about marital status in her contest form.

Who can forget the 'heartbreak' suffered by the Bombay's Hot Favourite
Aishwarya Rai when she lost the Miss India title to Sushmita Sen?

I could go on with innumerable such examples -- but do you see the
point I make, in the above examples?

In the first case, a 24-year-old beauty queen, a winner twice over, in 1999
and 2000, believed that she was not 'beautiful' enough and therefore went in
for a cosmetic surgery. In the second case, another successful beauty queen
believed that her life was not worth living because she 'failed' in a
relationship.

In the third, a young girl was so desperate to become a beauty queen at any
cost that she thought nothing about 'lying' about her marital status. And in
the fourth case, Aishwarya actually felt that she had 'lost' because she was
judged second and not first at a beauty pageant.  She believed that she
'deserved' to come first.

Do you see the common thread that strings these beads together? The
thread of 'insecurity'.  Of 'low self worth'.  Of feeling good about
yourself 'in comparison' to someone else.

Many young girls aspire to be in the shoes of Diana Hayden or Aishwarya Rai. 
Many young parents would like their daughters (as young as 5 years old) to
be the next Sushmita Sen.  But hey, give this another thought. What happens
to these girls when they turn 35-40?  When their beauty starts eroding.  How
do they define themselves then?

Oh I can think of a few positive aspects of becoming (or training for) a
beauty queen:

* You become health conscious and resolve to attain peak fitness.

* You can speak up in front of a huge audience.

* You travel to various countries and cities, and that in itself is a
learning experience.

But how many 20-somethings can distinguish between the 'healthy' lessons one
can learn like those cited above as against those that are learnt like:

* You are obsessed about 'perfect' body statistics and can become
  extremely un-healthy (read: anorexic or bulimic).

* You get accustomed to public performances or adoration to give you
  that feeling of 'high' (that boost to your self-esteem).

* You visit only the shopping malls and other 'touristy' places in
  the various countries/cities and miss out on the experiences of a
  'traveller'.

Having seen the glamour industry at close quarters (since I was in
advertising), I have witnessed the 'insecurities' and 'fears' of models,
beauty queens and Bollywood stars.

As a mother, I strive to discourage my daughter from associating 'beauty'
with what can be seen from the outside.  From equating 'beauty' with what is
impermanent.  From believing that 'beautiful' people are those who wear
designer clothes, make-up and high-heeled shoes.  And my job is very
difficult.  Because of the role the media plays in creating a 'larger than
life' image of glamorous women.  Because of the marketing companies who
'commodity' women to sell products. Because of Barbie doll -- that symbol of
the 'dumb blonde' woman!

It is not that I don't wear designer clothes -- sometimes I do -- or
high-heeled shoes -- rarely, but I do -- or that I don't like
wearing make-up for fun -- occasionally I love to.  But I ALWAYS
know that who I am is NOT and can NEVER be what I look like.

So please think again the next time you encourage your daughter (or niece or
friend) to participate in a beauty contest.  Think about what is the
motivation here to be known as the more beautiful 'than' someone else.

Because, after all, like in the fairy-tale 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs',
the mirror will at some point tell the queen that she is no longer the
fairest of them all!

How can you try to negate the influences of media when your child or
teenager speaks about 'beauty queen' with awe in her voice?

* Tell her about other women in India and abroad who are 'beautiful' from
the inside -- like Kiran Bedi and Kalpana Chawla.

* At a young age, start to explain that beauty from within is about

[Goanet]Re: NEWS: Fish Prices Crash, Tsunami-hit Coastal Families Struggle For Livelihood (SAR)

2005-01-18 Thread George Pinto
 Fish Prices Crash, Tsunami-hit Coastal Families Struggle For Livelihood
 
 By SAR NEWS
 
 Father Pinto said the sale of fish has dropped drastically in South Asian
 markets, particularly in India and Sri Lanka, after Dec. 26 tragedy with
 millions of fish lovers keeping away from eating fish fearing seafood could
 be contaminated.


Fred, thanks for the forward.  It is a small world.  Fr. Xavier Pinto and his 
brother, Francis,
were in my OLPS Parish when I grew up in Chembur, Mumbai.  Along with Fr. 
Desmond (Demi) D'Souza
and Fr. Ozzie (all Redemptorists) and in Goa now, they have fought for the 
little guys, the
poor, the destitute, the workers.  Fr. Desmond was recently rallying opposition 
to the communal
history video.  Tremendous group of priests, doing social justice work.

Regards,
George
P.S. For the record, the Pinto priests are not related to me. 




[Goanet]Cuncolim advocate Pio Lawrence dead

2005-01-18 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
Adv Pio Lawrence, chairman of the Cuncolim Educational Society Cuncolim and
president of Sociedade de Agricol de Veroda E Cuncolim died inthe early
hours of Tuesday at Cuncolim.

He is the maternal uncle of high court judge Ferdino Rebello (ex-MLA) of
cuncolim. Cuncolim Educational Society, besides running a school, also run a
higher secondary and arts and commerce college in Cuncolim.




[Goanet]Calling Josephites ... a note from Arpora

2005-01-18 Thread tomazinho
Tomazinho Cardozo
Headmaster
ST. JOSEPH'S  HIGH  SCHOOL
Arpora, Bardez, Goa.
 
Dear Josephites  Well Wishers of the school,
 
St. Joseph's High School, Arpora is the first English medium school in Goa,
imparting education till date. It was established in the year 1887. The
founder of this institution was Fr. William Robert Lyons, a scholar and
visionary.
 
Fr. Lyons started this institution in a house in Arpora, Bardez, Goa with
few students. It grew in strength, popularity and standard with the passage
of time. He got the school recognized by the University of Bombay in 1897.
The school sent its first batch of students for Matriculation Examination in
1900.
 
Fr. Lyons, a pioneer of English Education in Goa, died in 1925. Fr. M. A.
Lobo took charge of the school and worked with sincerity and dedication till
1937.
 
Fr. Felipe Neri Mendonca, an outstanding educationist and a strict
disciplinarian, took over as the Principal in 1931. He was responsible for
constructing a new school building which was inaugurated in 1937, on the
occasion of the Golden Jubilee celebrations of the school.
 
Students from different parts of Goa, irrespective of caste, creed and
religion, acquired qualitative education in the school. They excelled in
studies, sports and co-curricular activities. The school became a nursery
for eminent professors, doctors, engineers, lawyers, business executives,
etc.
 
The Government of India conferred the prestigious National Award for
Excellence in Education on Fr. Filipe Neri Mendonca for his valuable
contribution on the field of education in Goa. In fact Fr. Filipe Neri
Mendonca, was the first Goan to get National Award in the liberated Goa. He
expired in 1966.
 
Subsequently, the school was handed over to Diocesan Society of Education
and presently the school is administered by this Society under the care of
Archbishop Rev. Fr. Filipe Neri Ferrao.
 
The school has completed 117 years of its fruitful existence. In July 2001,
I was appointed as the Headmaster of this school. I tried to learn more
about these two great personalities, Fr. William Robert Lyons and Fr. Filipe
Neri Mendonca, who were responsible to spread English education in Goa.
Being the pioneers of English education, they should have figured
prominently on the educational scenario of Goa. It pained me to note that no
body knows about their contribution and hence they are not given any
importance. I felt that their contribution was not recorded by us after
their deaths. If it was done, due prominence would have been given to these
great educationists.
 
Therefore I have decided to write a book on their lives, their works and on
their untiring efforts in giving English education to thousands of Goans. In
view of this, I request all the ex-students and all well wishers of the
school, who are working in practically each and every nook and corner of the
world, to send any information, experience, etc., they have of Fr. William
Robert Lyons and of Rev. Fr. Filipe Neri Mendonca, so that the same can be
included in the book. Information shared by you, will go a long way in
making the content of the book authentic.
 
You may send the information to the following address: Tomazinho Cardozo,
Orda, Candolim, Bardez, Goa. 405 515
 
Phone: 2277019 , 9822170102.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Awaiting for your co-operation,
 
 
Tomazinho Cardozo.
Headmaster
St. Joseph's High School,
Arpora, Bardez, Goa.



[Goanet]Re: Secular Stamps

2005-01-18 Thread jose colaco

From: Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Santosh, the OED defines secular as 1. not religious, sacred, or 
spiritual. 2 (of clergy) not subject to or bound by religious rule.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/secular?view=uk  
I knew it..my good Uncle priest was NOT a secular priest.
He was religious and was (as far as I could see ) bound by religious rule.

ooops! what does http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/secular?view=uk  also 
say

secular/sekyoolr/     • noun   a SECULAR priest.
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[Goanet]NEWS: Fish Prices Crash, Tsunami-hit Coastal Families Struggle For Livelihood (SAR)

2005-01-18 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Fish Prices Crash, Tsunami-hit Coastal Families Struggle For Livelihood
By SAR NEWS
MUMBAI, Maharashtra (SAR NEWS) -- Eat fish to help fisher folks in the
coastal belt hit hard by the devastating Dec. 26 Tsunami tragedy, a Catholic
priest has said.
If you have stopped eating fish these days, may be you need not contribute
to any Tsunami fund at all. In that case praying for them too is rather
useless, Redemptorist Father Xavier Pinto, South Asia coordinator for the
Vatican's Apostleship of the Sea told SAR News Jan. 18.
He said many people were refusing to buy fish and other seafood from
tsunami-hit areas, fearing that the fish could be contaminated due to many
human corpses dragged out to sea.
Father Pinto said the sale of fish has dropped drastically in South Asian
markets, particularly in India and Sri Lanka, after Dec. 26 tragedy with
millions of fish lovers keeping away from eating fish fearing seafood could
be contaminated.
He said the Apostleship of the Sea involved in aiding the tsunami affected
people had launched a campaign on behalf of South Asian fishermen after fish
prices plummeted drastically to an all-time low, jeopardizing the livelihood
of the fishing community.
If you don't eat fish because of fear of contamination you may be
unleashing an economic 'tsunami' wave on the already traumatized fisher
folks, the priest, who returned after touring the tsunami affected areas,
said.
He said a rumour had spread thick and fast the fishes devoured the dead
human bodies floating in the sea.
Such rumour mongering was detrimental to the very livelihood of the people
trying to come to terms with the loss of lives and property, Father Pinto
said.
He said fish sold in the market was not from tsunami-affected areas because
no serious fishing activities have been carried out in the affected areas in
Southern India and Sri Lanka over the past two weeks.
Father Pinto said the fisher folks in Karnataka and Maharashtra were also
hit hard by the price crash, although these regions had no effect of
tsunami.
The priest also rubbished the idea of fish devoured dead human bodies. He
explained that only three non-edible varieties of fish--Scavenger fish,
killer whales and killer sharks--fed on alien or human flesh. These fishes
are not sold in the markets and do not reach your table, he added.
Father Pinto said the fishing community were already in huge debt and now
faced starvation as whatever fish they caught being unsold in the market.


[Goanet]Kuwait was great !!

2005-01-18 Thread sarabond
Well friends,

I really had a long break.
I along with my daughter Veeam spent almost two weeks in Kuwait...
courtesy Konkani Heritage Kuwait !!
We did have a fine holiday but the chill climate was unbearable at
times. We were there to perform for the Heritage Musical Show at the
Hawally hall on 14th Jan. instead, directed by Mr. Fidelis Fernandes.
Besides us there was Peter-Roshan, Melody Prince Lawry, Konkani
writer/musician Boaventure D'Pietro and the comedy kings of Konkani
stage -Prince Jacob and his brother Humbert all the way from Goa.

Three new Konkani CDs were released on the occasion. Veeam's hits
MHOZO  HERO, Lawry's duets album PAI TO PAI and a Video 
film SURYA by Peter-Roshan.

Visiting artists Boaventure and  Ms. Veeam were felicitated and 
presented a memento each at the hands of Mr. Fidelis Fernandes 
and Mr. Lawrence Pinto respectively. Another Musician honoured 
at the hands of Mr. Joseph D'Souza was Mr. Denis from Kuwait - 
the bass guitarist for his contribution in the music scene for several 
years.

So now  we are back to homeland with sweeet memories 
of our stay in Kuwait.

Veeam and self would like to sincerely thank all those who made our stay
 in Kuwait a pleasant and memorable one.

(Insha Allha) - Till we meet again  !!

- Alfonso Bond Braganza.
  Mapusa Goa.







[Goanet]Pravasi Divas

2005-01-18 Thread Peter D'Souza
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| Mumbai: Fifteen people of Indian origin were honoured
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| of the third Pravasi Divas in Mumbai on Jan. 9.
| Three of them are based in the United States -- Dr.
| Sam Pitroda, the man who pioneered the
| telecommunications era in modern India as Technology
| Advisor to the late Indian Prime Minister Sanjay
| Gandhi, Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati, of Columbia
When was Sanjay Gandhi Prime Minister?
Another great editorial by Jagdish Bhagwati in today's Wall Street Journal.
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[Goanet]Re: Religious Stamps

2005-01-18 Thread Peter D'Souza
Santosh Helekar wrote:
	The word secularism has many meanings, all of which
	are good. In Indian and British English this word is
	commonly used to mean tolerance and respect for the
	right of an individual to hold or not to hold the
	beliefs of any religion. Secular people, irrespective
	of whether they are priests or not, consider all
	religions, as well as absence of religion, to be
	completely equal.
Santosh, the OED defines secular as 1. not religious, sacred, or 
spiritual. 2 (of clergy) not subject to or bound by religious rule.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/secular?view=uk

Based on this quote from Chuck Colson's latest column, I am inclined to 
believe that the American English definition is not very different:
	Why do militant secularists attempt to snuff out religious practice, 
even in prisons, where it is so desperately needed? Partly, its a 
fanatical hostility toward religion. But these efforts also reflect a 
serious misunderstanding both of the role religion should play in public 
life and of religions social benefits.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/chuckcolson/printcc20050114.shtml

All of this is to say that I still find no reason as to why Fr. Cosme J. 
Costa of Pilar must be impressed with a spirit of secularism. He can 
maintain his commitment to Catholicism and be entirely tolerant of other 
religions without being a secularist.

Peter


[Goanet]Thanks, Eugene and Armstrong

2005-01-18 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Thank you Eugene for your reporting on the expat Indian convention. This 
would be of interest to quite a few Goanetters. Thanks also to Armstrong 
for bringing us a lot of interesting content from Cuncolim! FN

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Freelance Journalist  P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
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http://goabooks.swiki.net * Reviews of books on Goa... and more



[Goanet]28 JAN FRIDAY BALCAO:Problems related to the Nursing profession in Goa

2005-01-18 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]RE: the curiousity wrt JC dropping out...

2005-01-18 Thread jose colaco

From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Dr JC: I strongly believe that it is wrong to attack without being 
attacked. That is why I have fundamental difficulty with India's unprovoked 
1961 invasion of Goa.)

Do you have the same fundamental difficulty with the Portuguese invasion 
of Goa in the first place, Dr JC?

Just curious, RKN
==
Dear RKN...my answer is YES!
I strongly believe that the Portuguese should NOT have got mixed up in the 
blood bath involving the Hindu and Muslim warlord kings controlling Goa.

If they were interested in black pepper, they should have taken the pepper 
and gone back to where they came from.

Yes. the Portuguese had NO business to invade Adil Shah's Goa. Full 
stop.

hope that solves your curiousity
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Re: [Goanet]18 JAN 2005: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2005-01-18 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:09:54 +0530, Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
 18 January, 2005
 
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Tokli rajvoddki ajmas korunk; teach pasot Devan
 tika kallza poros voir tharailea. )The head is supposed to rule; that's why
 God placed it higher than the heart.) domnic fernandes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RESPONSE: Without the heart the head is nothing!

Cheers,

Gabe.



[Goanet]Mother of all Tsunamis,U.K. Viewers.

2005-01-18 Thread Gabe Menezes
 19:00  Krakatoa
   [subtitles]  
In a series of three programmes over the coming week, Channel 4 looks
at the history, science and politics of the Asian Tsunami, weighing up
its repercussions, and asking whether we will ever be able to predict
such terrible events in the future.



-- 
Cheers,

Gabe.

Wimbledon - London
England.



[Goanet]Re: Global dimming/global warming

2005-01-18 Thread Ronald Albuquerque
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:19:55 -0800 (PST)
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Since you seem seriously concerned let me refer you to
a brief article called A Massive Extinction of Logic
by Patrick J. Michaels, a senior fellow in
environmental studies at the Cato Institute, which can
be seen at: www.cato.org/dailys/01-13-04-2.html  The
article discusses the computer models that are used to
alarm you.  For you Brits, the Cato Institute is an
independent and highly respected think tank.

Hey, I'm a Brit. and a Yank :-)

A correction here. The Cato Institute is not an *independent*
think-tank. Rather, it is a libertarian think-tank.

For further clarification, look no further than how the Cato Institute
describes itself:
http://www.cato.org/about/about.html

Just to be clear: I am not saying that this paper is nonsense. 

However, any policy papers produced by ANY institution that  promotes
a particular agenda need to be regarded carefully. By definition, such
papers are not from an independent point of view.



[Goanet]pbd--- youth

2005-01-18 Thread Eugene Correia

Call for youth to join in India’s progress

From Eugene Correia

Mumbai: Three young Members of Parliament (MP), with
one common characteristic of having studied abroad and
worked abroad, B. J. Panda, Milind Deora, and
Manvendra Singh, brought their own experiences of
living abroad and unveiled their vision for a new
India.
Hailed as part of the new breed of Indian MPs, the
three spelled out the things that need to be done to
by the new generation of India to enhance and improve
India’s image at home and abroad.
At the plenary session on India and the Generation
Next, the three MPs, who formed the part of Indian
panelists, were joined by diaspora youth panelists,
Prof. Premnarine Misir, Pro-Chancellor, University of
Guyana, Vigneswaran, MP and Parliamentary Secretary
for Ministry of Youth and Sports, Malaysia, Dharmesh
Mistry, Management Consultant, who left his job in the
UK to work with Indicops, a voluntary group, in India,
and Dr. Amitabha Ghosh, NASA scientist.
Moderated by Prithviraj Chavan, Minister of State in
the Prime Minister’s Office, and himself a returned
expatriate, the debate took a lively turns.
Dr. Ghosh was very critical of government services,
saying he found that many slum dwellers had a fridge,
a TV and a motorbike but no essential services like
water and sanitation.
The picture, according to him, says that the private
sector has delivered but the government sector has
failed. It drew a clarification from Manvendra Singh
that the slums are “illegal” and, hence, there’s no
question of providing them with either water or
sanitation.
It was Mistry who articulated very well the need for
overseas Indian youth to provide voluntarily their
knowledge and skills to India. He said he has high
hopes India would come on top and the youth would lead
the way.
Both Panda and Deora said that not much must be made
of the fact they are young MPs. They chose to get into
politics to help change the face of India. Milind is
son of former MP, Murli Deora, who regained the South
Bombay seat for the Congress, while Manvendra, BJP MP,
is son of former BJP Minister, Jaswant Singh. Panda
(Janata Dal is member of Rajya Sabha.
There was the group of diaspora interns, who came to
India from different countries for a two-week visit.
The group went to many universities and other places.




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[Goanet]bpd every two years

2005-01-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Pravasi Bharatiya Divas may be held every two years

From Eugene Correia

Mumbai: Though there has been no official
announcement, the Indian government may hold the
Pravasi Bharatiya Divas every two years.
The organizers, FICCI and the newly created Ministry
for Overseas Indians Affairs, said that 2,500
delegates participated, the highest so far. The
previous two meets were held in Delhi.
There has been criticism that the PBD is nothing but a
jamboree where nothing of significance gets achieved.
However, opinions on its worth is divided.
It seems a good idea to have the event every second
year and the intervening year filled with an economic
meet. With the organizers trying to pack as much
possible within the three days, the business community
does not get enough time to network.
Those who have attended the previous two meets say
that the issues are repeated. By holding it every two
years, it would give the government and the diaspora
community time to take stock of the government
promises and of new issues.






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[Goanet]Ethel D'Costa - Raves Rants

2005-01-18 Thread Cecil Pinto
HEART 2 HEART
BY ETHEL DA COSTA
'Rave' and Rant
Dear Mr Parrikar,
At the risk of sounding so-do-done, let's just stop sipping old wine from 
an old bottle, please. For once, and finish this business for good, why 
don't you come clear about Goa's stand on rave parties, beach parties, acid 
parties, birthday parties, whatever. Why don't you put pen to paper, mind 
to matter, law to lathi and tell us which psychedelic hell you want to 
banish the dope heads, the MLAs, the sarpanches and hafta sniffing cops who 
actively and legally encourage and support the cocaine stupor, come every 
December. Because while Tsunami ravaged the seaside villages of hapless 
people down South, North Goa was ravaged by a wave of trance beats, high on 
mind-altering narcotics, as part of the Christmas and New Year 
celebrations. Everybody had a blast, got stoned and left the mess for the 
locals to clean up.

Predictably, every year I'm asked by colleagues of national television 
networks for sound bytes on how Goa goes ballistics at her rave parties. 
Do they really happen? they ask me with awe. Do they go the whole hog? 
You know, sex, drugs, free love, trance? with nauseating wide-eyed 
expression. `Of course they do. Ask Parrikar,' I told them this year.

I know for sure that you were aware of these back-to-back parties organized 
this year, the same way you are aware of the many hands that pass the 
monies, for black to be turned into white. It's a done rule. Given your 
understanding of politics, you know that well. Restrictions get converted 
into legal sanction (and new bridges begin to sink) sound barriers blown to 
the wind, a few babus are invited to 'cut the birthday cake,' go into hyper 
'image' building exercises and everything is hunky dory in dope town, 
sorry, Goa. The police don't come cracking, the chai wallahs make their 
moolah, the mineral water bottle companies enough publicity to have them 
raving till next year. Not to forget the bikes and cars the organizers have 
probably now bought for themselves, all in the name of funding the local 
temple, celebrating a child's birthday (these shameless blokes) or laying 
the foundation stone for a school. How sweet!

Not that the national media is buying this hogwash, but, the keepers of the 
Fourth Estate are few, fed as they are with so much imagery of beautiful 
beaches that the rot sinking in our lives is hard for them to see. The rot 
is sinking deep, Mr Chief Minister. And it is frighteningly disturbing. Goa 
has pressing social issues that need top priority, because law breaking is 
turning into a way of life, if you only know somebody higher up.

Of course, we all know that the average politician is a glib-tongued 
treacherous animal who ensures his own survival first, but time to come 
clean on this rave and rant the media gets into periodically over acid 
parties. Come clean, come honest and spell out the nexus. Are these parties 
another medium of putting Goa on the international map, a la IFFI? (foreign 
films, foreign tourists, foreign exchange, what's the difference, right?). 
Are these parties a source of revenue for a State now running on empty 
coffers? So, how much have your MLAs made? If you are endorsing their (MLAs 
justification for rave parties) existence with your silence, why not 
organize a government sponsored rave - that will clear the cobwebs once for 
all the debate on their legal status - that will certainly help Goa get out 
of the debt trap, post IFFI, considering the mega bucks a rave organizer 
makes (we are pro thinking. We have a mini-jungle around Miramar beach 
anyway). Go ahead. Put your finger on this pulse.

And while I'm on it, did you know that recently one of your cops pulled out 
Rs 10,000 (all in cash) from her uniform pocket to silence a poor woman 
standing at the police doorstep to file a grievance of cheating against a 
fraudulent lover. Your cop was in a hurry, in line for a promotion and in 
no mood to show a pending case on her file. I'm told, first hand, by a 
witness, that she wasted no time in telling the poor woman to scoot back to 
her village, pressing Rs 10,000 into her palm, for her silence and 
cooperation. Ah, how well greased your paradise runs.

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[Goanet]pravasi divas -- awardees

2005-01-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Pitroda, Bhagwati, Shyamalan among awardees

by Eugene Correia

Mumbai: Fifteen people of Indian origin were honoured
with the
Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Awards on the concluding day
of the third Pravasi Divas in Mumbai on Jan. 9.
Three of them are based in the United States -- Dr.
Sam Pitroda, the man who pioneered the
telecommunications era in modern India as Technology
Advisor to the late Indian Prime Minister Sanjay
Gandhi, Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati, of Columbia
University, who is engaged in writing about
developmental economics and has authored many papers
on India's economy, Prof. Sunil Khilani, who teaches
political science at John Hopkins University,
Washington, DC, author Vikram Seth, who divides his
time between India and USA, often in San Francisco,
California. and filmmaker Manoj Night Shyamalan.
Former Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago and now
the Opposition leader, Basdeo Panday, Lord Bhiku
Chhotalal Parekh, a political scientist who has
contributed tremendously to socio-political studies in
both UK and India, Amina Cachalia, a social activist
who founded the Women's Progressive Union in South
Africa, Ahmed Kathrada, also from South Africa and a
social activist who served in Nelson Mandela's
cabinet, Alokeranjan Dasgupta, a noted translator of
Bengali poetry and former  teacher at the South Asian
Institute, University of Heidelberg, Vijay Singh, one
of the world's leading golfer, from Fiji, J.K. Chande,
a community leader in Tanzania, M. Arunachalam, Hong
Kong businessmen and cultural activist, M.A.
Yussuffali, who runs a big grocery business in the
United Arab Emirates and also engaged in many
charitable organizations,  and Sant Singh Virmani, of
the Phillipines, renowned for his research work in
hybrid rice.
Shymalan, Seth, Prof. Bhagwati and Vijay Singh were
absent.





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