*** Goanet Reader: Newspaper reading catching on in Velim-Ambelim... and how!
## # Don't just read the news...discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet # # Goanet was setup in 1994 and has spent the last decade building a # # lasting Goan non-profit, volunteer-driven network in cyberspace. # # Visit the archives http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join Goanet. # ## Newspaper reading habits catching on in (parts of) Salcete SOURCE: Herald By Herald Reporter MARGAO: A newspaper stand for public reading may not be a common sight in Goa as yet, so to say. But, welcome to the interiors of the Velim-Ambelim belt, where one Could huddle around a small shed -- housing a newspaper stand -- to have a glance at the daily news. So far, about 10 such stands have come up across these villages and plans are afoot to spread the movement in neighbouring Assolna village as well. Says the architect of the movement, Anthony D'Silva, a tutor by profession, The idea is to inculcate a newspaper reading habit amongst the locals during their idle time. My plan is to open newspaper stands every two kilometres in these three villages. And, if D'Silva is to be believed, the response for the novel concept is fast catching up amongst the local populace. We found that people literally wait for the morning newspaper on the stands, especially in the Other Backward Communities (OBC) dominated areas, he said. D'Silva hit on this novel idea after the local Chaplain, Fr Eusico, asked him to do something to inculcate reading habits amongst the younger generation. This concept is being successfully put into practice in the Shiv Sena shakas (centres) in Mumbai and I thought why not give it a try in my own village, D'Silva maintained. The whole prupose is simple: I give the people an opportunity to go through the daily news at a place where they while away their time. Just by standing near the public place, I am sure people will read news by default. According to him, the people, no doubt, can afford to buy a newspaper, but either find no time to buy it or go through it at home. But how long will this movement continue, especially when it requires funds to keep it going? Says D'Silva: I have only provided the stands and the sheds. While the cost of newspapers have been borne by some individuals. And, he says, he can continue with the concept at least for the next one year, after which he intends to make the people contribute for the facility. ENDS
*** Goanet News Bytes * Aug 14, 2005 * Panjim takes to dumping garbage to back-fill land near Kadamba bus-stand
## # Don't just read the news...discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet # # Goanet was setup in 1994 and has spent the last decade building a # # lasting Goan non-profit, volunteer-driven network in cyberspace. # # Visit the archives http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join Goanet. # ## [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Carneiro 88_88 | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 -- / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 www.goanet.org Cb 88_-~ 88_-888 888 888 88___/ 88_/ Y88D [GOANET NEWS BYTES * AUG 14 2005 * DATELINE GOA] * Compiled in public interest by Frederick Noronha *** Sunday, August 14, 2005 --- o Corporation of the City of Panjim today lifted 250 metric tonnes of garbage strewn around the city, and began back-filling of government land near the EDC Ground, behind the city Kadamba bus stand, under police protection. (NT) o Danger of epidemic still lurks over Panjim. (NT) o Police name BJP leaders for attack in Revora while officials were dumping garbage there. (NT) o Solve garbage problem or face agitation, BJP warns govt. (H) o Efforts on to drive away wild elephants from Goa's border, say officials. (NT) o Some ex-Baina sex workers now operate from Margao. (N) o Konkan railway trains diverted till August 17. (NT) o Archbishop appeals to people to reflect on right attitude needed to deal with prisoners in jails. (NT) o Tolleaband residents in Salcete demolish illegal scrap shed.H Saturday, August 13, 2005 - o Garbage tremors rock Revora. Senior officials bear the brunt of mob fury. Panjim's garbage was sought to be dumped in this quiet Bardez village. Mapusa deputy collector was attacked. SP Sawant pushed into roadside gutter. North Goa Collector manhandled, under siege. Police DIG, Bardez mamlatdar heckled by mob. (Herald) o Welfare pension for poor hiked to Rs 750 (instead of Rs 500) under the Dayanand Social Security Scheme. (H) o Panjim gets high court nod to dump garbage at Curca in 'emergency'. (H) o In Panjim, except for Don Bosco's, no other high school has a playground. (Gomantak Times) Call-girl system comes up in lieu of Baina. The red-light area of Baina is no more. The cubicles of the commercial sex workers have been demolished. But the call-girl system is on the rise in the port town of Vasco. Arguments that bringing down the Baina sex cubicles would eradicate the flesh-trade from the port town proved wrong, and in fact the trade is now scattered all over Goa. (Sudesh Bhosale, NT) Mackerals laden with mature roe of upto three-inches in size, that would have been laid in a couple of days, were unloaded at jetties across Goa. Goans rushed to buy the first catch of mackerals, little knowing that most of them were not so ethically correct to consume, as they were females laden with fish roe. Each fish, said an experienced fisherman, would have yielded a trawler load of mackerals had she been left alone to take care of her roe. (Gasper D'Souza in NT. Send your comments on this story to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) o Gomantak Times focuses on a little-known Moira lad, Rishad D'Cruz, whose 16-minute bagged the Special Jury Award (for newbie-made films) at the International Film Festival of India 2004 in Goa. He graduated from Xavier's Mapusa and then tried Mumbai, before working for an ad agency in London called Anigraphics Productions, which deals with Pakistani and Indian audiences there. (GT) o Sunaparant shows nine photos of Panjimites holding their nose, as they go about a capital that has the stink of garbage dominate many localities. Lorna, Goa's nightingale, turns 60 in August 2006. Zena Costa writes she's sixty and still on song. Born on August 9, 1946 in Saligao, she says she is invigorated and raring to go after my concert to London, Paris, Canada and fulfilling a lifetime dream of 'Sodanch chintalim voitolim mhunnon hanv Lisboa'. She teamed up with Christopher Pereira (Chris Perry) of Margao, who was in his mid-thirties, and was jazzing up the musical scene in Bombay, Calcutta and Goa besides pioneering Jazz and swing into Konkani music! (GT) Friday, August 12, 2005
Re: [Goanet]Goan Traditional Mandos/Dulpods ( ..with double meaning? some more)
Hello Joe, I agree with you that most of these mandos have double meanings. Someday I will study them in detail. But for now some thoughts! Here goes: adorar - adore, serenade, expression of being cherished The batchelors in that village were witnesses to a fathers giving away his daughter - one who they cherished and held-dear. The sukhant to dukant reference is something that ones hears from women advanced in years. Many simple women considered their unmarried status as a happy time, where they were celebrated, wooed, and cherished. The other side; married life was quite unknown and what they often heard and sometimes saw was not pretty. The eligible batchelors in this sense intensely proclaimed their devotion-almost to the point of deification towards her- essentially serenading her, and she saw that they truly cherished her being. ADORAR could also be taken to suggest (extrapolating here) Adrar (as in threshold). The batchelors gathering together at the threshold of her house and bidding her farewell. Amni Gumni- I am postulating that this is quite possibly an endearing or diminutive of the names of two individuals. Amni/consider Amita and Gumni/or Gomini- Govind??. The Shiva reference is perhaps a reference to a puja in a temple or more likely in the hills. It could be seen as a nominalization where the word Shiva stands in for a puja or a celebratory moment that we do not have an exact understanding of. Shamba could be a derivation of Shambu another name for Shiva. Shiva is a proto god, along with Vaju, Agni, etc. He is venerated with an abandon that is quite unique to him. I see this mando as giving us a glimpse of our ancestral past. Bokem - Seagull if I am not mistaken. Kolvonttam- In this context does not directly imply prostitutes although that is what it means. It very much could simply mean entertainers. For instance Lavni* was a riotous form of entertainment in Maharashtra. The primary motivation was to render song and dance, make a living, see places, and receive accoloades. Of course men always had other urges that needed satisfaction, and some of these - our very own geishas obliged. I would like to point out here thhat the Japanese Geishas are not prostitutes but culturally and socially very refined women having impeccable training in the arts and song, grace under pressure - as splendid hostesses, trained in musical instruments, haiku/haika, etc., tea ceremony-sado, understanding of incense-kodo, and occassionaly calligraphy-shodo). Anyway all noble professions either way. Period. All these women to varying degrees also controlled their destinies. Such freedom has elicted the appelation of Kollvont in way too many a society. My mother would use the word kollvont to mean girls/women of loose morals - again really meaning women who were comfortable inthe company of men to the point which raised eyebrows. Nothing necessarily exciting beyond that. Some of this had to also do with limited vocabularies. * Similar to the nautch girl (as in the dancing girl, woh aurat/ladki joh mehfil mein natch/gaan karti hai. yeh bhi satch hai- ees prakar (to mean ilk) ki aurantem apna sharir paison ke liye bhijwate thein. Remember phrases like: Aum kollvont num. Amorer - ghannt zaunchea adim ghara pavtam. venantius j pinto __ Papan kazar maka kelem, sukhantlem voron dukant ghatlem... Sogle ankvar cholle ektaim zaum, adoraru maka kelem... What is 'adorar'? Amni Gumni nach baba, ammni gummi nach baba Ho mando shiva re ho mando shiva shiva Lia lia lo lia lia lo, lia lia lia lia shamba lia lo What Gummi? and Why Siva-Shiva Shamba ? === Tollem sukolem, bokem mojem babulem zalem.2 Tollem suktoch bokeak mojea foddop meutolem2 Foddop meutokoch bokeak mojea manik meutolem2 Mannik melltokoch bokem mojem girest zatolem...2 Why Bokem? any other meaning ? == Hanv saiba poltodi voitam, Damulea lognak vetam... Maka saiba vatt dakoi, maka saiba vatu kolona Damulea lognak kolvontamcho khellu. Damulea lognak kolvontamcho kellu. Kolvontam = Prostitutes ? May be (olden days) they were invited or hired to perform some sort of entertainement at the wedding party. = 664 West 163 Street, #57 New York, NY 10032-4527 USA PH/Fax: +1 212.928.3955
[Goanet]15th August ... ( II ) MY INDIA
Independence Day (India). Yes, my India is the best in the world. SARE JAHAM SE ACHAA HINDUSTAN HAMARA Right now I may not be in my India and with my money style abroad, I may not appear Indian to many but my heart will always be Indian, always stay Indian . MERA JOOTA HAI JAPANI YE PATLOON INGLISTANI MATE PE TOPI RUSI PHIR BHI DIL HAI HINDUSTANI I salute, JAI HIND. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Agostache 15ver ....( I )
Bharat Svontontr Dis Aiz Cortalim , Velsao ani Bastora Fest manoitat vhodda dhobajean. Aiz pattollio or patoyo-amcho dis (neidade) or novem at some places. i.e. blessing of paddy or 'Konnsam'. Where as in GOA Velha, traditonal game called 'Nal Thandovop' Coconut breaking (sort of marbles game except Coconuts (husk/sonn'nnam removed) are used in place of marbles). Guess who would be the Chief Guests? None other than 'Paris-kars' who come down from Paris on their annual Summer vacation. (may be now London-kars or Swinden-kars). = AIZ MAKA INGASOR SOGLEM MEVOT PUNN KEDNACH MEUCHIO NAM = = MAKA MOJEA MAIMCHEA HATANTANI KELOLIO GHOSTACHIO PATOYO.= [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]*View From The Outer Harbour (15-8-2005)
View From The Outer Harbour By: Thalmann Pradeep Pereira RETIRED HURT AT 58 ! Imagine a person, who was born on 15th August, 1947. Then he would be retiring from service on 15th August, 2005, on attaining the age of 58. And pray, what does he have to show for his active, productive life, before retiring? In cricket parlance, a batsman who gets injured while batting is allowed to temporarily retire. He is, however, allowed to resume batting after the fall of any other wicket, but before the close of his side's innings. By corollary, if he does not resume his batting during that particular innings, then he forfeits his right to bat during that innings. The final score card will then show that he retired hurt during that innings. This year, India, as a modern nation, celebrates the 58th anniversary of her Independence from the foreign yoke. The BJP had claimed that India is already shining, implying that there is nothing more to be done. The Congress claims that India will shine tomorrow, once they implement their pet policies. The policies themselves are supposed to be growth-oriented. The unstated principle is that there is no need to focus on the distributive strategies. Economists classify these theories as trickle-down theories of growth, since according to their notions, if the economy is allowed to grow unhindered, then the benefits of that growth will automatically be available to all those who work hard. The stock exchange is supposed to be the reflection of the economy's growth. Trade unions and collective bargaining are condemned as cartels. Some days back, Mumbai witnessed massive floods due to rains. The water had no routes to flow to the sea on account of the indiscriminate construction activities. Over the last 14-odd years, the philosophy of the trickle-down growth strategies for the economy as a whole, have also influenced the architectural and engineering professions in Mumbai. The builder-developer lobby propagated the myth that it is only important to have posh swimming pools in housing complexes together with beautiful landscapes, basement parking and plush interiors. In the event, the Mumbai rains exploded all these myths. Whole areas got flooded up to first-floor levels! Waters entered into the flats. Costly cars parked in basements got ruined. The entire philosophy of atomistic growth divorced from larger social considerations has been brutally exposed for what it really is - an unsustainable dream. Indeed, the smug upper middle classes of Mumbai are today groping in the darkness (caused by a massive failure of the privatized electricity supply industry) for a social camaraderie - precisely the virtues of unionisation and collective bargaining - against the government; virtues, which, till the other day, were condemned as outdated for the new knowledge-based economy. And if the Mumbaikars were fond of announcing their social, political and economic health in terms of the heights scaled by the Sensex and the Nifty, well then, the Sensex went up continuously from 7500 to 7800 points throughout the week of the ravaging floods, as if to mock those smug upper middle-class Mumbaikars that, not to worry, everything is ok and well under control and never mind that the rain waters have entered your first floor flats to ruin your plush interiors after totally destroying your Mercedes which was parked safely in the basement. But if the rich Mumbaikars have suffered insurance-indemnifiable losses to their properties (and may be to their egos), the poor slum-dwelling Mumbaikars have lost their near and dear ones. The time has therefore come to focus the debate on the condition of Indians, as distinct from India. The riches and prosperity of 10% Indians should not cloud our judgment about the pathetic plight of the remaining 90% Indians. India as a country is not out at 58, but the average Indian aam aadmi can only be said to have retired hurt at 58. Till the next Monday, then, Happy Thinking! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harbour Times (15-8-2005)
[Goanet]Re: WGKF - Support Goa University
Alfred de Tavares wrote : Sonia, dear, perhaps, dear Wendel could help evolve mentalities. His hoardings are by far the hugest and do tend to overpower a sizable portion of Goa's ... trees sight,smells,shade and fruits ... . Alfred, Just truing to help a little.. Dear Alfred, On another note since you said you'd like to help :) might you might want to sponsor one of the WDKF/Goa University gardens? Or any small traffic island/gaden anywhere else in Goa? Or anyone else/any organization like to do that? Can we all work to make Goa cleaner, greener, more beautiful? sonia
[Goanet]The Moral Code of Indian Democracy
The Moral Code of Indian Democracy The Asian Age India | M.J.Akbar The BJP and the NDA will have every right to taunt the fulsome apology by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for 1984 once they have familiarised themselves with the letter A. It is not only the first letter of most alphabets but also the first letter of the word apology. They should then apologise profusely for the macabre riots of Gujarat on the last day of February and March 2002. They could do it individually, with master baiter Narendra Modi leading them. Or they could orchestrate their efforts to include the Panchratna of the NDA: Vajpayee, Advani, Joshi, Sinha and of course the ubiquitous George Fernandes, who regularly charged in where angels feared to tread. Of the five, Vajpayee, then Prime Minister, did sound apologetic but heckled mercilessly by the bright young things of his own party, retreated ceremoniously to the peace and comfort of his chair. There was no hint of regret from the others. After Modi won the Gujarat Assembly elections, even the need for regret was forgotten. The three major sequences of barbarism in the last 21 years have been the anti- Sikh riots of 1984, the Babri riots of 1992 and 1993, and the Gujarat riots of 2002. Roughly the same numbers died while millions were traumatised. For the space of about three days mobs were permitted by a deliberately absent authority to kill Sikhs in 1984 and Muslims in 1992 and 2002. There was no official explanation offered for the barbarism. How could there be, for those in power were either perpetrators or abettors of barbarism. In each case the unofficial explanation, advanced through the party network (party is an obvious pun), was spontaneity before which the administrative machinery was apparently helpless. This was an utter, malignant, unforgivable, immoral and inhuman lie. In all cases the government deliberately fed the violence for political profit for a carefully calibrated period after which the same government ordered the violence to stop. The blood tap was switched on. And the blood tap was switched off. God knows there was provocation in 1984. What could be more provocative than the assassination of Mrs Indira Gandhi after the seesaw of violence through which Punjab had suffered in the previous years culminating with the assault on the Golden Temple, known as Operation Bluestar? This was further aggravated by images of Khalistani Sikhs abroad note the adjective, it is Khalistani Sikhs, not all Sikhs celebrating. But a government is not a mob, unless it chooses to become one. I was in Calcutta in 1984. Jyoti Basu was chief minister. The anger in Calcutta was no less than in Delhi, and incidents began to occur. Jyoti Basu did not choose to win his next election by washing his hands in Sikh blood. Instead he ordered the Calcutta Police to do its first and foremost duty, and protect every citizen of this country, just as he gave security and safety to Muslims in 1992 after the destruction of the Babri mosque under the watchful eye of P.V. Narasimha Rao (the same watchful eye presided over the anti-Sikh riots in 1984 incidentally, this time as home minister). The Calcutta Police is made up of the same Indians who man the Delhi Police or the Gujarat Police. They are not particularly angelic. They obey orders. Jyoti Basu's moral courage also gave the lie to the dangerous cynicism that has become a core philosophy of the BJP and the Congress, which insists that electoral victory justifies every immoral decision. The Congress victory in 1984 and the Modi victory later became self-evident exoneration. But Basu and the Left Front have won every election in Bengal without pandering to the barbaric impulse. The irony is that the Congress would have won in 1984 without presiding over the spontaneous reaction. I cannot be certain but I daresay that Modi would have won Gujarat also without Godhra because he is an efficient administrator with little interest in the parallel disease of Indian politics, corruption. But both were tempted by the easy option since their backbone had been washed away along with any moral fibre that they may have once possessed. Anger can be spontaneous. Organised violence is stage-managed. The Congress and the BJP, along with the Shiv Sena in 1992 and 1993, perpetrated deliberate violence against minorities. The system buys time for political parties through commissions. It bought the Congress 21 years after 1984. But those who suffer the truth and those who know the truth do not need commissions. One of the most wrenching moments of my life was to watch a Sikh being burnt to death in front of a gurdwara in Delhi. It happened on the second day of the 1984 riots, and not on the first spontaneous day. The howling mobs on that day were mobilised by Congress leaders who saw victory and ministerships ahead and got them too. Gujarat's pogrom against the Muslims was ordered by local BJP leaders
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Aug 14, 2005 * Panjim takes to dumping garbage to back-fill land near Kadamba bus-stand
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Carneiro 88_88 | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 -- / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 www.goanet.org Cb 88_-~ 88_-888 888 888 88___/ 88_/ Y88D [GOANET NEWS BYTES * AUG 14 2005 * DATELINE GOA] * Compiled in public interest by Frederick Noronha *** Sunday, August 14, 2005 --- o Corporation of the City of Panjim today lifted 250 metric tonnes of garbage strewn around the city, and began back-filling of government land near the EDC Ground, behind the city Kadamba bus stand, under police protection. (NT) o Danger of epidemic still lurks over Panjim. (NT) o Police name BJP leaders for attack in Revora while officials were dumping garbage there. (NT) o Solve garbage problem or face agitation, BJP warns govt. (H) o Efforts on to drive away wild elephants from Goa's border, say officials. (NT) o Some ex-Baina sex workers now operate from Margao. (N) o Konkan railway trains diverted till August 17. (NT) o Archbishop appeals to people to reflect on right attitude needed to deal with prisoners in jails. (NT) o Tolleaband residents in Salcete demolish illegal scrap shed.H Saturday, August 13, 2005 - o Garbage tremors rock Revora. Senior officials bear the brunt of mob fury. Panjim's garbage was sought to be dumped in this quiet Bardez village. Mapusa deputy collector was attacked. SP Sawant pushed into roadside gutter. North Goa Collector manhandled, under siege. Police DIG, Bardez mamlatdar heckled by mob. (Herald) o Welfare pension for poor hiked to Rs 750 (instead of Rs 500) under the Dayanand Social Security Scheme. (H) o Panjim gets high court nod to dump garbage at Curca in 'emergency'. (H) o In Panjim, except for Don Bosco's, no other high school has a playground. (Gomantak Times) Call-girl system comes up in lieu of Baina. The red-light area of Baina is no more. The cubicles of the commercial sex workers have been demolished. But the call-girl system is on the rise in the port town of Vasco. Arguments that bringing down the Baina sex cubicles would eradicate the flesh-trade from the port town proved wrong, and in fact the trade is now scattered all over Goa. (Sudesh Bhosale, NT) Mackerals laden with mature roe of upto three-inches in size, that would have been laid in a couple of days, were unloaded at jetties across Goa. Goans rushed to buy the first catch of mackerals, little knowing that most of them were not so ethically correct to consume, as they were females laden with fish roe. Each fish, said an experienced fisherman, would have yielded a trawler load of mackerals had she been left alone to take care of her roe. (Gasper D'Souza in NT. Send your comments on this story to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) o Gomantak Times focuses on a little-known Moira lad, Rishad D'Cruz, whose 16-minute bagged the Special Jury Award (for newbie-made films) at the International Film Festival of India 2004 in Goa. He graduated from Xavier's Mapusa and then tried Mumbai, before working for an ad agency in London called Anigraphics Productions, which deals with Pakistani and Indian audiences there. (GT) o Sunaparant shows nine photos of Panjimites holding their nose, as they go about a capital that has the stink of garbage dominate many localities. Lorna, Goa's nightingale, turns 60 in August 2006. Zena Costa writes she's sixty and still on song. Born on August 9, 1946 in Saligao, she says she is invigorated and raring to go after my concert to London, Paris, Canada and fulfilling a lifetime dream of 'Sodanch chintalim voitolim mhunnon hanv Lisboa'. She teamed up with Christopher Pereira (Chris Perry) of Margao, who was in his mid-thirties, and was jazzing up the musical scene in Bombay, Calcutta and Goa besides pioneering Jazz and swing into Konkani music! (GT) Friday, August 12, 2005 --- o Rane's budget focuses on social sector. Budget initiatives include expediting work on the Tillari irrigation project, a new expressway from Vasco, upgradation of the Goa Medical College, creation of a 'special economic zone', and global tenders inviting an expression of interest in the Mopa proposed airport in North Goa. (NT) o Rane's budget brings cheer to liquor firms. (H) o Sunaparant's heading: 'Kar na, dar na, kendrak lagoon huskoch na'. No loans, no fear, (the Rane budget) shows no
[Goanet]MESSAGE from Keith Vaz MP UK - to Goans world wide on the occassion of WORLD GOA DAY 2005
Dear Rene I am writing to send my very best wishes on the occasion of Goa day. This event has now become an important event for the whole Goan community throughout the world. Our parents and grandparents who were mostly born in Goa will have found it incredible that the wider Goan community would be able to communicate in this way. Despite living in so many different countries we always retain our culture and identity. This is crucial because it allows us to hand down to our children and grandchildren the very best that our history has to offer. Have a wonderful day. With every good wish, Yours sincerely, Keith Vaz MP House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA 0 Keith Vaz MP webistes : http://www.keithvaz.labour.co.uk/ http://www.labour.org.uk/maps/locinfo.phtml?ctid=2443 = __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]World Goa Day
World Goa Day is a vehicle to unify Goans and get them to think about what it means to be a Goan. World Goa Day is not just all fun and games. The first step perhaps is a picnic, a party, a theatre to bring Goans together. But that is only the first step. Several Goan organizations have used the occasion to raise funds for a specific charity or cause in Goa. Rene Barreto who is the prime initiator and instigator behind Goa Day, has always, from day one, urged us to give something back to Goa. So I hope we will not characterize World Goa Day as just a day to have fun and games. Getting Goans all around the world to celebrate this day is a way to affirm our identity, for ourselves and also for our children, especially in the diaspora, as children born in foreign lands may not have the same depth of feeling for Goa as those of us born in Goa or who have lived in Goa. For these reasons, celebrating this day is a worthwhile exercise. Happy Goa Day to all Goans wherever you may be !!! Vivian A. D'Souza
[Goanet]Goan Traditional Mandos/Dulpods (.. the use of Papaya ....)
Moskachea pananchi bhaji kuddin gormi vaddoita Drumstick tree leaves vegetables create heat in the body, affects the system and reduces the chances of pregnancy, and so does consumption of too much drumsticks. If a girl or a woman conceived and did not wish to have a child, she would consume lots of moskachi bhaji or drumsticks, thrice a day at breakfast, lunch and dinner for about a week, which would result in menstruation and bring about relief for her. In the olden days, the process was called cleaning of the system. It was used as a natural means of family planning. Torne popaiecho melgor (raw papaya vegetables) was used for early abortions; it is considered more powerful than moskachi bhaji. Consumption of too much chocolate also produces the same result. However, these natural wonders do not work with women who have strong uteruses. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA From : Venantius J Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To : goanet@goanet.org Sent : Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:22:37 AM To :goanet@goanet.org CC :JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Re: [Goanet]Goan Traditional Mandos/Dulpods (.. the use of PAPA, BHAKRAbab PAKLE) Dear Joe, The two urls below give some information, although the medical community is still debating the efficacy of papyaya as an abortificient. In the second url, they make it quite clear that there is no scientific evidence to the claims that it is a valid pregnancy terminator. However, I am aware that others have sworn that it worked for them. Oh, and about (Hidalgo) BHAKRAbabs and (Dom) PAKLO - we should consider the possiblity and bless our stars that quite possibiliy many of them had low sperm counts. Or that they used the rhythm method. In that case such gentlemen I say. What a blast! Joe contemplates: I wonder, in absence of any contraceptive pils, condoms, abortions etc how it was possible to play with girls those days ? Can any one throw some light ?? Raw papayas. Natural contraceptive. But the verdict is still out in the medical community. http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0510/herhealin gheritage2.html excerpt gleaned from the above url, in the section: What do women say about methods for abortion? Ingredients of the first six - including carrot seeds, brinjal seeds, jaggery, honey, mohua liquor, black pepper and unripe papaya - are all text-mentioned, but not for the purpose of abortion. They are supposed to be effective to some degree, depending on their various properties, dosage, constitution of the woman, stage of pregnancy. Of these, the methods in most widespread popular use are raw papaya, mohua liquor and carrot-seeds. If further evaluated so that efficacy and exact guidelines for safety are worked out, some might be recommended or allowed for use at community level. http://food.sify.com/fullstory.php?id=13251761 Title : Should certain food be avoided during pregnancy Excerpt: From: Jaya Question: I have heard that during pregnancy some food items like tindora, pineapple (raw ripe), papaya (raw ripe) should be avoided. Is there any scientific basis for it? My son weighed 4.5Kg at birth. Now I am pregnant again. Is there a chance for me getting high blood sugar because my first baby weighed a lot? Ans: There is no scientific evidence to support this belief that pregnant women should avoid papaya and pineapple. But since these fruits are rich in enzymes many believes this may cause abortion. Maternal diabetes can result in large baby and not the large baby causing maternal diabetes. If you had high blood sugar during the previous delivery you are at increased risk of developing gestational diabetes. venantius _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Message for Goa Day 2005
00 Message for Goa Day 2005 14 Aug 2005 In my message for 2004, I had proposed that the Goan diaspora celebrates Goa Day at two levels 1) The usual traditional festive programme of food drink, song and dance; 2) A report on the communitys health, arts development, civic involvement, business and sports activities. Nothing came of these proposals. That is hardly surprising in the absence of any feedback and consultation. What was missing was a qualified task force to assess and review the communitys activities and prepare a report no mean undertaking 1. This year, I have been again invited to share my thoughts on Goa Day. So lets get a little more specific this time. My thoughts are restricted to the Goan Diaspora settled in western countries such as the UK, Portugal, US, Canada, Australia NZ. 2. In my view, the key questions to ask are 1) What is our position as a minority in our country of residence, how do we (especially younger Goans) cope and make a mark? 2) Can we continue as a viable, cohesive community in our country of residence and beyond? 3) How do we relate to our homeland, Goa, which gets increasingly distant for the younger generation? 3. Instead of offering another round of armchair opinions and global prescriptions, I suggest we set up a standing THINK-TANK (TT) or MONITORING GROUP in each country with appreciable Goan concentrations. Each TT can be made up of more than 2 or 3 volunteers (including women) with a scholarly background and/or adequate community experience. A job of a TT is to deliberate on the questions posed above, brainstorm, collect data and propose answers in consultation with others. 4. Issues for the TTs to consider A. Our position as a minority in our country of residence - Our migration history - Some demographic statistics (where available) in urban centres and regions. - Education and occupation profiles - The countrys dominant values (political, economic, social) and how these impinge on us - Confront racism and discrimination (through involvement with appropriate organisations, improving our coping mechanisms) - Can we integrate with the mainstream? How to avoid being marginalised ands ghettoised? - Develop our creativity in the Arts (visual and performing), make media links and improve our communication skills - Work on developing business skills - Other aspects (to work on) B. Continuing as a viable, cohesive community - What are the common values that (should) hold us together? - Review of our distinctive customs: religious rituals, rites of passage, characteristic greetings gestures, structure of social gatherings. How are these changing? How much of our traditional baggage should we retain? - Do we modernise and transform some of our cultural forms (for example, folk dance) and borrow eclectically from the dominant cultures? - Recognise that younger Goans today are a diverse lot, increasingly individualistic and not constrained by tradition. They may find it more rewarding to latch onto market values based on competition and personal gratification. Such values can damage community solidarity and cohesiveness. So well need to make judicious trade-offs. C. Relations with Goa - Our narratives and images of Goa: how are they changing? - Without the glue of language, can our young retain a sense of belonging to Goa? - What Goa groups can we usefully link up with? --- 5. The above items are tentative. Others can improve on them. There is a lot for the Think-Tanks to work on and the TTs from different countries can consult with one another for mutual enlightenment. There is no need to aim for a global consensus. The deliberations of the TTs should be an on-going process and the more salient outcomes should be posted on a website (a specific one for Goa Day or a sub-site offered and maintained by Goa Sudharop). The postings are not to be considered as final answers but rather part of a progressively refined package of views, proposals and strategies. Any Goan should be free to make his or her own comments to the Website editor. Conflicting and alternative suggestions should be welcomes and after due scrutiny be posted side by side. If Rene Baretto (prime mover of Goa Day) and Goa-Sudharop agree with the above proposals in principle, I suggest they tie up any loose ends and get the scheme rolling. Cheers. Eddie D'Sa. London 00 Goan Overseas Diget: http://www.goacom.com/overseas-digest/ Ros Lobo : ON WORLD GOA DAY http://www.goacom.com/overseas-digest/Archives/UK%20Goans/goaday03.html 00 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]RE: SEABIRD RUNWAY LOOKS OK
I second this appeal, in right earnest. it's time for the Naval Air Wing to 'Walk' from Dabolim, and walk towards Seabird and strenghten the Defence Operations there. Why should the AAI be burdened with Mopa, when they can expand and modernise Dabolim for a song; Let the Navy walk, and let the Maharashtra Govt. have this airport somewhere in Ratnagiri, if they have to, and keep Pernem etc for Goa's other needs.[Nasci Caldeira, Aug 13] It is very necessary to de-link Mopa from Dabolim as far as go/no-go is concerned. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Let us not say that Mopa is OK because of constraints at Dabolim. By the same token, let us also not say (as in the snippet above) that once Dabolim's constraints are removed there is no need for Mopa. Goa needs Dabolim AND Mopa, not one OR the other. The recent deluge in Mumbai shows clearly how essential a back up airport is. Mopa should not be viewed as a back up to Mumbai but as a back up to Dabolim! Besides, if one goes into the history of Mopa one finds that the location was selected nearly 10 years ago. How can one put the clock back and say shift the location to Ratnagiri! Maharashtra is already planning a new airport at Navi Mumbai just up the creek. So it is Goa which can benefit from the proposed airport (along with Dabolim not instead of it). Dabolim (sans Naval flight training) would be the primary international airport for Goa (and hopefully a worthy back up to Mumbai) while Mopa would be a secondary one, catering initially to domestic traffic until it evolves gradually and sytematically over a couple of decades into an international airport in its own right. Having said all this, let us be clear that the topmost priority is for getting the Navy to shift flight training out to Seabird -- jaldi! Everything else is just a smoke screen.
[Goanet]GOG AND MONORAIL
The GOG is commended for this decision; however the backward, incompetent, outdated and ineffecient Civil and Construction Engineers and Firms, in Goa/India should not have any part in the implementation of the project other than land procurement and power being made available. Even the New Delhi Monorail project is being given to MTrans of Malaysia, who will work with IRCon, the Rlys unit; since they have a success story in K Lumpur.[Nasci Caldeira, Aug 13] Anybody who is interested in the subject of monorail can google for it to one's heart's content. My concern is that it is untried and untested in the Indian context. We have to start on an experimental basis instead of going at it hammer and tongs. Delhi is smart in planning for its use as feeders. Here in Goa the plan seems to be to launch it directly on the arterial highway. This might play havoc with existing traffic both during construction and operation (or rather the inevitable re-work phases). We know from the sorry experience with 4 laning DB Marg in Panjim for IFFI 2004. It seems some 4-laning is to be done on the highway (NH 17) involved. Land has reportedly been acquired for this purpose. Will it be used for 4 laning or taken over by the Railways (via say IRCON) for the monorail. Will the railways end up interfering with the highway authority? Let's earnestly hope GOG knows what it is doing! It would help if it makes information available to the public and seeks feedback before embarking on grandiose schemes.
[Goanet]Goanet POLL : World Goa Day. Are you celebrating ??
Cast your vote here (30 people voted already) http://goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=NS-Pollsfile=indexpollID=14 or http://goanet.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet]HAPPY I - DAY 2 U ALL
15th August Agostache 15ver le 15 Aout H HAPP PP Y Y H H A A P P P P Y Y H H AA P P P P Y Y A APP PPY H HAA PP Y H H A A PP Y H H AA PP Y II A Y Y I D D A AY Y I - D D AAY Y I - D DY Y I D D AAY I D D A A Y II AA Y TOOO YOUUU AL FROMMM JOE GOAA UKKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Goan Traditional Mandos/Dulpods ( ..with double meaning? some more)
Papan kazar maka kelem, sukhantlem voron dukant ghatlem... Sogle ankvar cholle ektaim zaum, adoraru maka kelem... What is 'adorar'? Amni Gumni nach baba, ammni gummi nach baba Ho mando shiva re ho mando shiva shiva Lia lia lo lia lia lo, lia lia lia lia shamba lia lo What Gummi? and Why Siva-Shiva Shamba ? = Modgvam teoviager teoviager mez kelam re dhondo Tinga cheddum nachochao, cheddum nachota orxem korun bhenddo. Taka ek paklo choita, paklo choita, burkant ghalun thondo...2 Paklea teka choinaka re, choinaka re cheddum bhail nu re ti randdo ?? Aiz etolo, faleam etolo pavon pavona (2) Gagro fuloun (?) rau gho etlo gara etlo gara. Xindri galun rau go etlo gara etlo gar etc Udok navon rau go.. Tel kadun rau gho... = Varem na vadoll na, cheddva askin (?) koxem ublem gho...2 Razu na, kollso na, cheddva baimcher kiteak ubem gho...2 = Cheddva go Cheddva, vortam kuxi kitem kortalem tinga ??? === Tollem sukolem, bokem mojem babulem zalem.2 Tollem suktoch bokeak mojea foddop meutolem2 Foddop meutokoch bokeak mojea manik meutolem2 Mannik melltokoch bokem mojem girest zatolem...2 Why Bokem? any other meaning ? == Hanv saiba poltodi voitam, Damulea lognak vetam... Maka saiba vatt dakoi, maka saiba vatu kolona Damulea lognak kolvontamcho khellu. Damulea lognak kolvontamcho kellu. Kolvontam = Prostitutes ? May be (olden days) they were invited or hired to perform some sort of entertainement at the wedding party. = Ek don tin char pondra solla, pondra solla He bhailecho ghou na ghara punn bhurghim zalim pondra solla. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - August 14, 2005!
Jednam ek jiknnar chuk adarta, to mhunnta: Hanv chuklom; jednam ek luskan bhognar chuk adarta, to mhunnta: Ti chuk moji nhoi. (When a winner makes a mistake, he says: I was wrong; when a loser makes a mistake, he says: It wasnt my fault. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]GOG MUST JOIN CITISTATE DISCUSSION
http://www.businessworldindia.com/AUG2205/column01.asp Comment: Ashok V. Desai Give Bombay independence Not just Bombay, but all major cities of India should be made capitals of city-states The linguistic state has outlived its utility. States should be designed to maximise development potential. A state should have an urban centre as capital and the surrounding countryside as its hinterland. The whole of India should be divided up into states centering on its 100 major cities. Such city-centred states will have more equal development opportunities. And more states will mean more competition amongst them; it will make them devise more innovative, development-oriented policies. The problem for Goa is that it has to begin to be considered a city state without a spiky urban centre like Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai and Kolkatta. Our leaders have to join the discussion and somehow shape it or else the state will lose out in the urbansiation plans and programs that are bound to materialise soon.
Re: [Goanet]Goan Traditional Mandos/Dulpods (.. the use of PAPA, BHAKRAbab PAKLE)
Dear Joe, The two urls below give some information, although the medical community is still debating the efficacy of papyaya as an abortificient. In the second url, they make it quite clear that there is no scientific evidence to the claims that it is a valid pregnancy terminator. However, I am aware that others have sworn that it worked for them. Oh, and about (Hidalgo) BHAKRAbabs and (Dom) PAKLO - we should consider the possiblity and bless our stars that quite possibiliy many of them had low sperm counts. Or that they used the rhythm method. In that case such gentlemen I say. What a blast! Joe contemplates: I wonder, in absence of any contraceptive pils, condoms, abortions etc how it was possible to play with girls those days ? Can any one throw some light ?? Raw papayas. Natural contraceptive. But the verdict is still out in the medical community. http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0510/herhealin gheritage2.html excerpt gleaned from the above url, in the section: What do women say about methods for abortion? Ingredients of the first six - including carrot seeds, brinjal seeds, jaggery, honey, mohua liquor, black pepper and unripe papaya - are all text-mentioned, but not for the purpose of abortion. They are supposed to be effective to some degree, depending on their various properties, dosage, constitution of the woman, stage of pregnancy. Of these, the methods in most widespread popular use are raw papaya, mohua liquor and carrot-seeds. If further evaluated so that efficacy and exact guidelines for safety are worked out, some might be recommended or allowed for use at community level. http://food.sify.com/fullstory.php?id=13251761 Title : Should certain food be avoided during pregnancy Excerpt: From: Jaya Question: I have heard that during pregnancy some food items like tindora, pineapple (raw ripe), papaya (raw ripe) should be avoided. Is there any scientific basis for it? My son weighed 4.5Kg at birth. Now I am pregnant again. Is there a chance for me getting high blood sugar because my first baby weighed a lot? Ans: There is no scientific evidence to support this belief that pregnant women should avoid papaya and pineapple. But since these fruits are rich in enzymes many believes this may cause abortion. Maternal diabetes can result in large baby and not the large baby causing maternal diabetes. If you had high blood sugar during the previous delivery you are at increased risk of developing gestational diabetes. venantius 664 West 163 Street, #57 New York, NY 10032-4527 USA PH/Fax: +1 212.928.3955
[Goanet]Congratulations - Rosary Ferns
Congratulations to Rosary Ferns and his troupe for a well presented masterpiece Drama BHURGIM MAI-PAICHEM SUKH. Rosary you have done it once again. Keep up the good work for the cause of our mai bhas Konkani, culture and tradition. Mario Rebello Kuwait _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Ang Mhojem Poi Ponn Hat Lainaka
Ang Mhojem Poi Ponn Hat Lainaka Kuwaitchea eka Super Market-an mhojem lhan shopping sompoun, duddu farik korcheak vollik ubho ravlolom. Itlean mhojo mobile fon ieo ieo Katrina hea ring tone-ar vazlo. Dhakovner (display) mevnno Gino-chem nanv vachlem. Mhojo ugddas kelo, hanvem mhonnlem Bhavaji, khoimsor asat tumi? Tannem vicharlem. Super Market-ant. Don potleo chicken breast zai asleo, tannem sanglem. Anik kitem zai zap mellchea adinch tannem aplo mobile bond kelo Frozen vepar melltelea zagear gelom. Sangillea pormonnem don chicken breast potleo shopping trolley-n dovortana portean ieo, ieo Katrina ring tone vazlo. Hello. Bhavaji, trast ditat mhonnxi. Mevnno anik ekdam khalteponnan uloilo. Na re papia. Sang, kitem zai aslem? Upkar korun ek pav kilo (1/4 kilo) Turkey breast haddcheat .? To mobilar Turkey breast-achi gozal sangtana mhojea fuddeant ek tornatti Mashri vo Egyptian choli nodrek poddli. Jeans kolsanvacher eksarkem nheslelem ttight fitt t-shirt tiche kuddik odik sobitai ditalem korem punn tigelea t-shirt-acho low cut mat, tichea ubar hoddddeacho ordho bhag prodoxonn (exhibition) korta kai diso. Hea subhageche dolle thoim thirle. Super Market-an, tichea samkara velean chollun gelle dadleache patki dolle, tigelea xatier doddle nant mhollear ghoddie mhoji sangpachi chuk zatli vo to dadlo monis kudddo astolo. Bhitorlean mhoji nodor tichea hoddddear kenchloli astana, babdo mevnno hello, hello munit mhaka zapoitalo. Hello bhavaji, aikotat tumi? Xevottak, mevneachea avazan mhojea xennlelea mon zagear ailem. Oi oi. Kitem sangtalom tum? Taka vicharlem. Moddekatuch tumchi zap bond zali. Kitem zalem? Super Market-an novech Mashri breast polletalom. Mhojea tonddanleant koxe porim he sobdh chukun aile tich mhaka zanvi na zali, ani hanv koslea vostumchi gozal kortam ti, taka khobor naslelean tannem anvddo gillot sanglem Ghoddie bazarant novem 'sales promotion' ailam astelem. Mashri breast ruchik (tasty) aslear tevui ek pav kilo ghe. Lino B. Dourado http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=gulf-goans_yahoogroups_comrestrict=exclude=words=Lino+B.+Dourado __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
