[Goanet] June 10, Camoes dies in 1580

2006-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha

June 10: National holiday of Portugal observed: Camões (pictured), who
wrote the national epic The Lusiads, dies in 1580.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Didn't Camoes have some connection with Goa? Dr Olivinho Gomes had
some interesting views about the possibility of The Lusiads having
been partly written here, or influenced by his stay in Goa (if I
recall right). FN
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[Goanet] The destruction of Hindu temples to build Catholic churches in their places.

2006-06-10 Thread cornel

Hi Gilbert
Thanks for your response. I detect a presentational problem over some of 
this debate.


a) "built on top" to me has meant on a particular site where a structure 
previously existed. The skyscrapers in limited space on Manhattan Island, 
New York represent this continously. Indeed, this happens almost everywhere 
as old structures get demolished and new ones are constructed on the same 
site by way of modernisation. However, my understanding is that in Goa, some 
Hindu temples were demolished and Catholic churches were built in their 
place in a spirit of arrogant displacement. Have I got this entirely wrong 
according to you? Are you saying that it is not acceptable to say that 
Catholic churches were built following Portuguese destruction of Hindu 
temples as you have not found firm  historical evidence for such a claim? I 
regret I do not have the hard evidence which would be appropriate as I have 
been busy doing other things!


b) "built on top" in the way you used it, did not quite strike me as a 
possible interpretation in our discussion i.e using part of an old structure 
to hold up the new one. We live and learn!

Regards
Cornel.
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From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:13 PM
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Hi Cornel,

From claiming that I said that I am, "denying that Hindu temples were 
destroyed during Portuguese rule in Goa" ,
Marlon switches his claim to, "deny the reality that churches were built 
on top of destroyed Hindu temples!"


Contemporary historical accounts do document PORTUGUESE SOLDIERS 
destroying Hindu Temple en mass.  There is even documentation of the name 
of the Portuguese officer who led the night of the rampage.  We reviewed 
this in the past, as being part of an invading army's attempt to 
land-grab, to later on settle its own retired soldiers to form a new 
supportive community.


I still continue to request which SPECIFIC church(s) in Goa were built ON 
TOP OF Hindu temples.  So if Marlon or Cornel or others has any DEFINITE 
evidence (contemporary historical accounts OR archeological studies OR 
other dating studies like temple art) within a church PLEASE PROVIDE. This 
rather than some hand-me-down assertions a.k.a. grandma's kaneos or some 
accounts why this or that place or event is superstitious.  Below is the 
post that I wrote. It is a great pity (being polite) that Marlon 
reproduced only a selective quote of my post (the last part of the post).


---
Retaining walls in Church

Gilbert Lawrence:
If you were building a house for yourself, (as I did) would you want a 
wall of an old house (of uncertain building materials) maintained and be a 
small component of the new house? And run the risk of collapse of the 
entire structure at later date due to the unknown foundation? Or would it 
be a lot easier for all involved and a lot safer to just build the new 
structure in-toto?

Is the astute observation a fact or a mind's eye?

Tariq:
When you are in a hurry to build a church or a mosque, and there are no 
bricks or stones available, you typically use those from the temple that 
you destroyed. I know of several mosques in North India, that used stones 
from other temples. In some strange cases, the stones were brought from 
several hundred miles away. But from what I read, it was a standard 
practice.


Gilbert responds:
Agree with Tariq's statement of using bricks from other buildings. It is 
common that bricks, gold and other precious metals and precious stones 
etc, are reused/ recycled. But the very act suggests that it is UNLIKELY 
THAT ONE IS BUILT ON TOP of the other. Now there are always exceptions to 
the rule; but it is not the practice.


For intellectual Goans to make blanket statements that this occurred is 
both disingenuous and inflammatory or one is living in a make belief world 
of India. Now that the issue is placed on the table (wittingly or 
unwittingly), let's discus this rationally, logically and scientifically. 
And hope wild statements do not come up again and poison the atmosphere in 
Goa or on Goan cyberspace.

-

I thank Aurelius Figueredo for posting the other relevant links of what I 
wrote.  To those who may have missed his post, here is the web links that 
Auri posted which actually is a good revision of our dialogue two years 
ago. (March 2004).

The post is titled "Church built on temple?"
http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/011273.html
Here is one of Marlon's replies:
http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/011298.html
Here is another one of Gilbert's replies:
http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/011287.html

Since the above dialogue Miguel Braganza had a few posts on the Church in 
Mapuca. Even with him writing a book on this church, he had no evidence 
that the Mapuca church was built ON TOP OF a temple.


I thank Cornel for responding to my post and answerin

[Goanet] Fly B'lore-Singapore-Bangkok for Rs 6000!

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Fly B'lore-Singapore-Bangkok for Rs 6000!

June 09, 2006 16:03 IST Rediff

Singapore-based low-cost airline Jetstar Asia on Friday said it was in the 
process
of planning an expansion of its network in India. 
"We are in the process of working out the network expansion," Chong Phit Liang, 
CEO,
 Jetstar Asia said. The airline currently operates five flights a week from
Bangalore.

She also announced the 'Special Launch Fares' for four flights operating via
Singapore - Bangalore-Singapore-Bangkok (Rs 6,000), Bangalore-Singapore-Hong 
Kong
(Rs 7,500), Bangalore-Singapore-Jakarta (Rs 6,000) and 
Bangalore-Singapore-Taipei
(Rs 9,000).

The fares were special one sector offers from June 1 to 15 for travel between 
June 1
and July 31, 2006, she said. "We now have a critical mass of routes, which 
allows us
to provide seamless transfers for a passenger from one point in our network to
another, while also providing a great value deal on the fare," Chong said.

Asked if the airline planned to increase the number of flights to Bangalore, she
said, "No, Not at the moment."

Chong announced Jetstar Asia had been named the winner of the Skytrax Airline 
of the
year and Best Low-cost Airlines Award for 2006 for both the Asia and Southeast 
Asia
categories.

The Airline of the Year survey was an independent study by Skytrax based on a
worldwide survey that involved interviews totalling 13.6 million people of over 
93
nationalities, she said. 



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[Goanet] Please identify this bridge

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk

please identify this bridge

Hint: Is this from Goa ?

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[Goanet] ADC - June 8

2006-06-10 Thread domnic fernandes
Edward bab, Dev borem korum.  I appreciate the initiative and continuation 
of ADC during my vacation period.  God bless you.


Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA


From :  Edward Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reply-To :  "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent :  Thursday, June 8, 2006 11:26 AM
To :  "Goanet" 
Subject :  [Goanet] ADC- June 8

Ages of a Man

1. Panch... Nagdo Nach ( Five - Dance Naked )
   We allow our children to run practically naked till they are five

2. Dha zaitench kha ( Ten - eat lots )
   This Proverb allows full liberty to the children upto the age of ten

3. Vis... korta kismis
   A young man of 20 goes in for love/ or songs.

4. ChalisKaddta dis
Forty and counting the days.

5. Ponas...zalo tonas
   At fifty he has started aging

6. Satt budh natt.
   We grow old very soon and a man aged 60 is expected to be imbecile
7. Sotor...fonda bitor
   Seventy - inside the grave, maybe the longevity was 70 then

8.  Noi...Andak choi
When a man attains the age of 90 he is so much bowed down that his eyes
approach the thighs

Another Version:
1 - Vis...khas fis - hip, smart, cool
2 - ChalisKaddta dis - Forty and counting the days.
3 - Ponas...zalo tonas - At fifty he has started aging
4 -Satt...poita  vatt -  looking for the road to come
5 -Noixim..addam raxic - Ninety...bones in a heap.

++

With todays proverbs, I conclude the ADC posts, which I was posting in
absence
of Domnic Babs "Aichea Dissak Chintop'.

I would like to thank all those who have written to me in pvt and to those
of my friends
who assisted me with the translation in English.

So far I have compiled more than 600 konkani proverbs and am still working
on more.
Most of these proverbs have been taken from the Net - Goanet in particular
and also as reference
I have taken help of the book "The konkani Proverbs' by V.P.Chavan which is
in Devnagri script.
My previous compilation of Konkani proverbs, helped Mr. Manohar to bring out
his
book on proverbs in Devnagri. A few of the proverbs are also Manglore

The most difficult part has been the translation into English. Although it
is not possible to give
the exact English translation with meanings I have tried my best to be
close. The translation
has been done in the interest of Goemcars who do not know konkani, so that
they  may read them
and understand them. Once I complete and fromat in word/PDF I will  like to
share this file
with my Goemcar bhavs on the net.

Dev Borem Korum
Edward Verdes
Chinchinim/Mumbai/Jeddah

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Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty

2006-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Gilbert
> Just one small point re your "Why are the world
> economists (who were in favour of WTO and NAFTA) 
> not stepping forward to come up with innovative 
> plans to create jobs in Mexico to keep the
> indigenous workforce in their native land?"
> 
Mario observes:
>
The economy of Mexico is the responsibility of the
Mexican government, not of "world economists".
>
Cornel writes:
>
> Could the same have been said about Indian doctors
> who rushed to migrate to the USA? Just asking?
> 
Mario responds:
>
What do world economists and the sick Mexican economy
have to do with Indian doctors migrating to the USA? 
Indian doctors, most of whom could not even earn a 
decent income in India, rushed to migrate to the USA,
with the official acceptance of the US government, to
fill a need for physicians in the US.
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Re: [Goanet] Goa importing poverty

2006-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote:
>
> I disagree with you about the Dubai Ports deal. It
> was not economics or security that kept that deal 
> from taking place. It was good old fashioned 
> prejudice and anti-Arab racism. Having grown up in 
> Dubai, I know exactly how Dubai Arabs think. They 
> detest fundamentalist groups and will have nothing 
> to do with them. Unfortunately, today all Arabs and 
> infact Muslims are lumped together in the US. There 
> is no room or tolerance for nuance.
> 
Mario observes:
>
Elisabeth,
You my know what Dubai Arabs think, but you don't seem
to know that the Dubai government is a substantial
financial contributor to Arab terrorist organizations
like Hamas and Hezbollah, which is why they were
considered a security risk in the Dubai Ports deal.
>
I'm not sure where you got the idea that all Arabs are
lumped together in the US.  From the President down to
the local cities, Americans have bent over backwards
to distinguish between regular Arab folk and the small
number of radicals among them.  In the city in which I
live, there are regular "Interfaith meetings" to
emphasize that normal Arabs are not Islamo-fascist
radicals.
>


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Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist?

2006-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes. Books, articles and internet forums are good
> ways to document what individual unorganized 
> theists and atheists believe. 
> 
Mario responds:
>
The comments above refer to what the individual
unorganized atheists CLAIM to believe.  If they make
an exception due to convenience, there would be no
personal or public consequences unless they break some
law.
>
> Mario wrote:
> >The claim above that "moral teachings" in religious
> >texts are "now regarded as immoral" is a specious
> >allegation, hardly well known, and is probably
> >considered a fact only by committed atheists.
> > 
Santosh writes:
>
> False. Some examples of religious moral teachings
> that are now regarded as immoral, and that are well-
> known facts are:
> 
> 1. Sati
> 2. Casteism
> 3. Prohibition of widow remarriage
> 4. Killing of homosexuals
> 5. Prohibiting women from wearing men’s clothing
> 6. Stoning of disobedient children
> 7. Cutting down and casting in fire those who bear
> bad fruit
> 8. Forcing disbelievers to drink boiling water, and
> burning them
> 9. Letting idolaters kill their children
> 
Mario observes:
>
I see now that Santosh is trying to use some ancient,
barbaric, clearly immoral practices, long since
abolished, in his specious attempts to indict all
religion.  None of his references include tenets of
the rock solid moral code based on the Golden Rule and
The Ten Commandments.
>
Santosh writes:
>
> The above wish (that Santosh document what is 
> immoral about the Golden Rule and Ten Commandments 
> are immoral) is quite strange since nobody has 
> stated that I possess such selective documentation. 
> 
Mario responds:
>
What is really "strange" is how Santosh speciously
indicts all religions based on a few barbaric
practices long since abolished, as when he said on
June 3, "It has also been shown that no religion,
ideology or atheistic belief system has ever had a
rock-solid moral compass."  To say that no religion
"has ever had" a rock solid moral compass is clearly
false.
>
Santosh writes:
>
> But since the ten commandments have been selectively
> highlighted by Goveia, I wonder if he can explain
> the moral value of the first four commandments, and
> clarify why death by stoning is an appropriate moral
> punishment for violation of some of them as
> recommended in the relevant religious texts.
> 
Mario writes:
>
The moral value of the first three or four
commandments (see explanation below) sets the
foundation of a religion based on a belief that there
is one true God as far as Jews and Christians are
concerned, who must be accepted and respected above
all else.  What is "immoral about that?  Death by
stoning is not part of the any moral code that is
based on the Golden Rule and the Ten Commandments.
>
By the way, I must clarify the confusion that I added
to with references to the Seven Suggestions and the
Six Suggestions, etc. 
>
There are basically three different versions of the
Ten Commandments.  The Catholic version is as follows,
which gives us THREE religious codes and SEVEN moral
codes:
>
   1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have
strange gods before me.
   2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God
in vain
   3. Remember thou keep the Sabbath Day.
   4. Honor thy Father and thy Mother
   5. Thou shalt not kill.
   6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
   7. Thou shalt not steal.
   8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbor.
   9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.
  10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.
>
There are other versions that cover the same things
but are listed differently.  In those versions we have
FOUR religious codes and SIX moral codes.  For a
detailed discussion of these click on:
http://biblia.com/jesusbible/deut3.htm#The%20List
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[Goanet] Goa's education conundrum: English or mothertongue, choice isn't yours

2006-06-10 Thread Goanet News
Goa's education conundrum: English or mothertongue, choice isn't yours

Panaji: After a decade and half of officially pursuing
regional languages as primary school instruction mediums,
Goa's education sector is poised to vote itself back towards
English as the preferred medium.

Starting this academic year, the education department
reintroduced an English language subject from Std I
in government-aided primary schools, where it had
earlier been virtually banned as the medium of
instruction in primary school -- by starving it of
grants -- following an aggressively chauvinistic
language policy of the late 1980s.

This week, the Goa cabinet decided to drop regulations that
barred new schools opening near existing ones -- a move seen
as easing the way for more private English-medium schools to
open.

The opposition BJP has crticised both decisions, accusing the
government of promoting English education at the cost of
regional languages. This will lead to "cultural
degeneration", the BJP said.

Education minister Luizinho Faleiro though has justified the
reintroduction of English in Std I, citing declining
education standards and a 43% school drop out rate across the
ten-years of schooling in Goa.

A majority of students currently go through a scrambled
education system, that leaves them confused and is widely
perceived as flawed. Many study pre-primary in English
medium, then switch to their primary in Konkani/Marathi and
four years later switch again to English at middle and
secondary school.

College and university studies are overwhelmingly, if not
exclusively, in the English medium.

English as a subject was completely dropped in Std I and II
and introduced from Std III onwards. But the long gap and
inadequate exposure to English left many barely able to read
English by Std V, leave alone answer examinations,
educationists point out.

Inability to cope with the switchover is believed tp be one
of the reasons for the 30% drop out rate after Std V,
prodding an advisory board to suggest retaining English as a
subject right through.

On Friday, the opposition BJP indicated it would target Mr
Faleiro, calling for his dismissal. Unless a roll back was
announced, the party has threatened a street agitation.

Sensitive to the emotive language issue. Mr Faleiro -- an
ardent Konkani supporter himself during the 1985-87 language
agitation-- has clarified that the government's pro-regional
language policy is unchanged.

"Education in the mother tongue is still the policy of the
government, and they (regional languages of Konkani and
Marathi) continue to be the medium of instruction," he said.
Retaining English as a subject right through was only a
pragmatic solution, he argued.

However, interference from political lobbies and language
propagandists have for long overshadowed pedagogical concerns
here, creating serious disconnect between government policy
and public demand.

Though backed by government grants, regional language schools
are in decline.

Many of the 1000-odd government primaries in this state of
1.4 million have as few as 12 students to a class. Konkani
medium are seen as an imposition on the masses, in a state
where English is interpreted as the passport to opportunity. 

Many regional language propagandists dispatch their own wards
to elite English medium institutions.

  Those with the wherewithal to pay and bear the
  inconvenience of transporting children over longer
  distances, have voted with their feet, only
  increasing the demand for English medium schools.

Successive governments have only managed to cap the exodus by
witholding new permissions if an existing school was within
one kilometre and three kilometres for primary and
secondaries respectively.

Education department sources say an average of 60
applications for new English-medium schools were rejected
each year on these grounds and for inadequate infrastructure.

With the cabinet now deciding to drop distance rules, the
opposition has voiced concern that the English mediums would
sprout in a former Portuguese colony, where English education
has been on the rise since the 1940s or earlier, mainly
spurred on by opportunities in outmigration across the globe.

This return of English, they fear, could render existing
infrastructure and teachers surplus. Some 136 schools
teaching in Konkani, most of them run by Christian trusts,
stand to be impacted too.

When education in the mother tongue became a divisive war
cry, Goa's archbishop plumbed for Konkani -- changing
Christian-run English medium to primary schools to Konkani
mediums virtually overnight, though under pressure from the
government, in one of its most contentious decisions that had
sparked street protests from the lay Christian community. 


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[Goanet] SQCA

2006-06-10 Thread Ricardo Nunes
AMAZING! AMAZING! or may be not ...

The Inquisition, a spurious Portuguese regulatory
agency in charge of soul quality control centuries ago
(good souls to riches and heavens, bad souls to the
pyre right away) is being pathetically rekindled by a
bunch of true believers still surviving after the
Hindu tsunami of the early sixties (a scheduled tribe
of cannibals living in a tiny formalin flask).

How far away are we from the PINTO's spirit who had
clean minds and believed in LEF. 

The crap on daVinci in Goanet brings to my mind the
hysteria of Abecassis (the convert Mayor of Lisbon)
some twenty years ago against Godard’s “Je vous salue
Marie”. Zealot bigotry looms all the time everywhere. 

I didn’t read the book and I don’t plan to see the
movie.

Best regards

Arjun


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[Goanet] Goa says 'Go Brazil'

2006-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1034529

Goa says 'Go Brazil!'
Pushpa Iyengar
Friday, June 09, 2006  22:45 IST

world cup fifa 2006

PANAJI: Goa is known to support Portugal and Brazil, but World Cup has
the region craning its neck toward Brazil.

Peter Vaz, soccer patron and owner of Sporting Clube De Goa, says that
because of the past and present, soccer fans identify themselves with
Portugal and Brazil. Goa was a former Portuguese colony and its clubs
have several Brazilian players. One fan in Saligao, North Goa,
Geronimo D'Costa told DNA, "I think most Portugal supporters are fence
sitters, their hearts are with Brazil."

Bondo, one of Goa's well known musicians, says, "I've loved this
beautiful game ever since I was a kid. Now I cannot wait for the
kick-off." Bondo has lived in Brazil, and it's little wonder that he
says, "My heart is with Brazil, there is little doubt about that."


--
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

Go England, go.

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[Goanet] Reported Deaths/Accidents etc 9th & 10th June

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Reported Deaths/Accidents/missing etc  9th & 10th  June
 
43year old Rosario Fernandes of Kharebhat-LOUTOLIM commited suicide by hanging
himself at his residence. He is survised by his wife and 3 sons, all based 
abroad.
 
5year Demison D’Souza  of modho wado PIRNA sustained head injuries after he was
knocked down by a rash car driver.
 
30year old Noor Mohammed of Sasmollem-BAINA died in a road mishap at Magor 
hill. He
was riding his motorcycle-Suzuki when he was struck by a bus.
 
35year old Renuka Poojari of Veroda-CUNCOLIM died of burn injuries. The death
appears to be a case of suicide as soruces state the she was uner trememdous 
strain
due to her marital problems.
 
40years old aprrox., an unknown body ws found floating in the river Sal at
Mungul-Margao.
 
30years old Scooterist (Honda Activa) Seby Marcarenshas of Guirdolim-CHANDOR 
killed
near Mascarenhas factory.
 
14year old Rashika Karmalkar of Ala Keri committed suicide in a tank near Laxmi
Narayan Temple where Ganesh Visarjan takes place. Reason not known.
 
23year old Visvesh Singh drowned at Baga beach. A group of students from Delhi, 
some
of which  went for a swim tow of them were seen struggling in the water but  
only
one was rescues the other not located and was  feared drowned
 
59year old (Britton) Paul Reeder has been reported missing from Palolem, 
Canacona.
He was staying with his friend Lesly Thorton at Rosa D’Mello’s residence. 
Missing
since 31st May.
 
Following as per Death Announcements Ads. appeared on Newspapers:
 
Antonio Nasimento Fernandes, Tarchi Bhat, Siolim (Ex.Tanga-Tanzania)
 
Justine Domingo Pascal D’Sa (1926) Fontainhas, Panjim
 
Lucio Baltazar (Alcino) D’Silva (1945) Collem
 
Abel Francis Pereira Firguem Bhat, Waddi Merces (MPT. JE Elect.)
 
Rosario Fernandes (1962) of Loutolim (see abv)
 
Sebastian Remedios Fernandes (Sebby) 1967 of Bamonnwado, Siolim
 
Eugena Carvalho Non-Mon Saibini Bhat, Vasco
 
Assis Manuel Rodrigues (1932) of Covale Bardez (St. Sabastiao Vaddo/Mussher)
 
Tulshidas Sagum Sastikar, ex.Sarpanch Salvador do mundo
 
Palmira Luiza Noronha e Carneiro (1968) Manora-Raia
 
Rosario Rodrigues (1920) of Navagully-Varca
 
Dr. Solon Belo Dai Palha (Zinbabwe-Panjim_Agassaim)
 
Sri Deveraj Mulkraj Anand  Arlem-Margao
 
Antonio Minino Carvalho (1936) Utorda-Majorda/Bamonn wado Camurlim-Bardez
 
Caitan Rosario D’Costa (1941) Vazangal, Panchwadi.
 
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[Goanet] 49 foreigners own land in coastal areas of Bardez itself!

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
49 foreigners own land in coastal areas of Bardez itself!
 
 - The tourist have not only become owners of land but have also completed the 
mutation process.
 - GT revealed that the Bardez mamlatdar’s office has executed these 49 
mutations
cases of foreigners following sale deed registrations during the last few years.
 - Most of them have been executed in the coastal area of Anjuna, Assagao, 
Candoim,
Arpora and Siolim villages.
 - There are 3 cases, the foreigners have not disclosed their nationality.
 - Foreigners have purchased the properties including ancestral houses and the 
total
amount could run into crores of rupees.
 - Prperties have been bought either to run businesses and to use as their
redidential houses.
 - Aleast 10-12 properties have been purchased by the foreigner in the name of
foreign-based companies.
 - In all 13 properties have been purchased in Anjuna, seven in Candolim, six 
each
in Assagoa and Arpora-Nagoa, five in siolim, four in Saligao and other palces 
from
Bardez taluka.
 
(It is also understood that 50% of the above owners are from England and amongst
others includes Italy, Israel, Holland, France, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, 
UAE.)
 
In another startling incidence, an area admeasuring about 20,000 square metres 
at
Temwda, Morjim has been purchased by two foreigners and mutation executed 
withouth
the knowledge of tenants who tilled the land for decades. About 14 tenants were 
now
fighting a case before the deputy collector, Pernem to get mutation declared 
null
and void. Tenants have suspected a racket involved in land dealing in the 
coastal
areas as they never received any notices at the time of mutation process. The
notices are in fact issued to ‘care of addresses’ of a particular party in 
Bardez
and Salcette areas who even forged their signatures as based on the 
acknowledgement
received, the Pernem mamlatdar executed mutation process.

 (compiled from GT dt 9/6/06)
 


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[Goanet] Alemao’s new initiative to come closer to masses: (and to promote gambling ?)

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Alemao’s new initiative to come closer to masses: NT
 
Churchill Alemao MP, announced the opening offices at  21 places in south Goa 
(21
constituencies) so as to reduce the inconvenience caused to people who 
otherwise had
to travel all the way to Varca to meet him.
He also revealed that  one office would be opened at Mapusa
 
To a query on the increase in gambling activities in state, especially in 
Margao and
its surroundings, Mr. Alemao opined that a rise in the pay pakets of the 
policemen
would solve the problem.
 
Good pay for cops can stop gambling:
MP Churchill Alemao has said that gambling can be stopped totally only if the
government raised the salaries of the police force. “The police should be taken 
good
casre of by the government.  Otherwise, there’s no way to control gambling”, he
said. “If the police are earning Rs.10,000 now, the salary should be Rs.30,000” 
he
added, while saying that gambling has been going on even before his birth. (H)

JoeSays: It is clear from above that Churchill too support or patronise 
Gambling.
It would be more convenient now for Matka bookies etc as there would be 21 
regional
offices of Churchill to help them out. I seems,  he gets his 'hafta' too.
How can he possibly say that the police salary be increased by 3 fold ? If not,
they/police will continue accepting bribe ?  And does this mean he/Churchill 
also
support this ? Our Rane seems  too scared of Churchill as he is well known for
bringing the Govt. down and snatch his CM seat/kodel. 
 Mr. Manmohan Singh or Sonia Gandhi could you take note of this ?
 
 In the meanwhile, a day after Sub-divisional Magistrate, Margao indicted the 
police
for over-looking gambling activities, the district Police chief Shekar 
Prabhudessai
has issued show cause notices to concerned police officers seeking explanation 
to
the charges made out by the Magistrate. The  District SP says ‘It’s wrong to say
that the police are slow in initiating action against matka and other gambling
activities. (H).

JoeSays: Police are not only slow but blind too when it comes to taking action
against Matka bookies etc. Or else,  how such activities are going on during day
light and that too right under their noses ? In many cases, one can even see 
Matka
bookies accepting bets from just outside the police satation.



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[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Junachi 10vi, 2006!

2006-06-10 Thread domnic fernandes

Foldoraiechea thavak buddon ami renve poros vodik xenkaro voir kaddtat.

(In diving to the bottom of pleasures we bring up more gravel than sand.)

Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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[Goanet] A house for heritage lovers

2006-06-10 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
A house for heritage lovers 
By Ramnath Pai Raikar
Navhind Times
Friday, June 9, 2006

Among many definitions of the term 'heritage tourism', the most appropriate 
appears to be one where it is described as "travelling to experience the 
places, artifacts and activities that authentically represent the stories and 
people of the past and the present".

The definition goes well with Goan settings which boast of various places, 
different artifacts and diverse activities linked to heritage.

A senior official of the directorate of archives and archaeology told The 
Navhind Times that Goa, apart from its temples and churches, can exploit the 
old houses which are a medley of Latin\Portuguese architecture perfectly 
amalgamating with Indian style of construction, besides allowing the visitors 
to experience their grandeur. However, not all houses are heritage houses 
dating back to 100 or more years, he said.  The DoAA official also placed on 
record that although heritage structures come under the jurisdiction of the 
department of town and country planning, the directorate of archives and 
archaeology in concerned about them, if they have an archival value.

The 12th Finance Commission has in fact earmarked a fund of Rs 20 crore 
specifically for heritage structures in the state, out of which the DoAA 
received Rs 16 crore. The department of town and country planning is entitled 
for the remaining amount, he said.

The official further informed that there was a scheme run by the tourism 
department which envisaged interest-free loans for repairing heritage houses.

Unfortunately, the scheme did not progress any further, except short-listing a 
few heritage houses like the Kundaikar house at Kundaim and the Menezes 
Bragança house at Chandor, which needed immediate repairs.
Fortunately, an amount of Rs 2 crore was sanctioned for restoration/renovation 
of the 15th-century Reis Magos fort.  Still better, the Delhi-based Indian 
National Trust for Art and Culture which was entrusted with preparation of a 
master plan for the same, managed to receive funds from Britain-based Lady 
Hamlyn Trust, and restoration/renovation work will commence this September.

"The Rs 2 crore would now, in all probability, be diverted towards the 
restoration/renovation of the Cabo da Rama fort in South Goa," the DoAA 
official informed, adding "If the state receives funds from outside reputed 
agencies towards the heritage work, nothing like it." The official further said 
that the restoration/renovation work of any heritage structure also include its 
maintenance, beautification of the area, construction of proper approach roads 
and basic facilities like washrooms and toilets which make up a perfect 
infrastructure for tourism.  The honorary secretary of the Goa Heritage Action 
Group, Ms Heta Pandit observed that it is incorrect to state that only temples, 
churches and few houses make up Goa's heritage. "Yes, for the time being, the 
state heritage tourism is concentrating on these aspects but then its scope is 
wide," she said.

Speaking further, Ms Pandit said the concept of heritage walk should be 
followed more vigorously. "I, myself have listed 26 locations around the state 
for heritage walks, which take care of tree lovers, bird lovers/ornithologists, 
botanists and so on," she said.

Lamenting that the tourists are presently visiting few houses like Deshprabhu 
house at Pernem and Menezes Bragança house at Chandor, Ms Pandit said that more 
heritage houses which are in good condition should be utilised for holding 
events like weddings, dinners, etc.

In addition, Ms Pandit suggested the tourists could be allowed to stay with the 
families living in these heritage houses, as not all visitors to the state like 
to stay in the hotel. That would not only provide the visitors to these houses 
with special feeling, but also allow them to experience the unique Goan warmth, 
she observed.

Welcoming renovation of old houses like the Souto Maior house at Bainguinim, Ms 
Pandit said that we are not concerned about the possession of the house as long 
as its historical character is maintained. "The adaptive re-use of such 
edifices will allow us to recycle a property for the modern use," she 
maintained.

The heritage areas and the individual properties must be opened for tourists, 
she stressed.  Ms Pandit also observed that the tourism department has a 
mechanism for promotion of such houses as well as training of guides for guided 
tours of such edifices. "It would be interesting for the tourists to know what 
lifestyle Goans follow, including specialities of the houses like say two 
reception rooms or salas, etc," she noted.  Informing that the Goa Heritage 
Action Group is involved in tasks like conducting guided heritage tours and 
preparing maps of heritage areas, Ms Pandit said that the GHAG primarily 
functions with the tourism department.  "However, the group had limited 
interaction with the DoT like say holding the Fo

[Goanet] World Cup and Daisies patties.

2006-06-10 Thread Pandu Lampiao

The World Cup is upon us and this one is is special for us from the
Lusio world...with three Portuguese speaking countries in the
competition. And Sunday will be emotional  and touchy when Angola play
Portugal...for Angola represents the scattered Portuguese colonies,
most improvished but proud in tradition and a gift of the beautiful
game. Hold it! There maybe those who will jump on the pros and cons of
our pasthistory and destiny put Goa on the map, and the hippies
called it a beautiful place (or it would be Vengurla no?), with a
beautiful people who once lived in peace and laughter and sang songs
of love and life
And what an appropriate time to remember some of our footballing
greats (perhaps you have your own). My most memorable is our own Goan
Pele (Peli in Concani).He was a young man of few words, came from
Calata, his legs not straight at the knees, his dark looks
unexpressive but in his mind was football. A superior understanding of
the complexities of football...of creating openings, moving the game,
of skills not theatrics...of controlling a game, a Juan Roman Riquelme
of his days (who should hit headlines Monday morning) in the days
where coaches were the paunchy batkars. Peli (never knew his real
name) was in the seminaries (perhaps Pillar) and played for AA de
Majorda in the 70s and as quietly as he came on to the field...he
disappeared. And like Juan Requelme and Villareal, AA de Majorda
usually never lost when he showed up.

There were many others of my childhood but most of them big names and
the thriving Goan clubs of the 60s and 70s, most notably Domnic
(another whose legs never quiet straight) who dazzled a visiting
Hungarian football team, they were happy to view his sensuous
dribbling skills in the second half...all to the poetic commentary of
the great Benao.
And yes, back to Daisies fine patties tasted rather soggy and sweet
like the muddy  football fields of Chicalim...and Donna Senora
LisabethI think I know of an answer to unwanted facial hair..naw,
its not called Brazilian!!

Pandurang.

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[Goanet] Cancellation of CSTM-Karwar-CSTM special train on Konkan Railway

2006-06-10 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues

See
http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_109cancel_080606.htm

08/06/2006

PRESS RELEASE

   Sub: -  CSTM-KARWAR SPECIAL TRAIN CANCELLED

It has been decided to cancel Train no. 109/110 Chhatrapati Shivaji
Terminus (CSTM)-Karwar-CSTM holiday special train with effect from
12th June, 2006 ex-CSTM and w.e.f 13th June ex-Karwar due to poor
patronization.

The special train was started from 1st April, 2006 and was to run till
30th June, 2006 ex-CSTM.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist?

2006-06-10 Thread Valmiki Faleiro

I was not participating on the debate on that thread,
dear Mario, was just curious about the import of an
observation made by Cornel.
VF


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 Mario Goveia wrote :


>
Rather than such a general comment as seen above,
which tells us NOTHING, wouldn't it make more
intellectual sense to specify exactly what "rightist"
diatribe one is referring to, and some rebuttal of the
"rightest diatribe" to enlighten all of us?



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[Goanet] EMERGING HOTEL SCENARIO

2006-06-10 Thread Philip Thomas
http://www.business-standard.com/lifeleisure/storypage.php?leftnm=lmnu4&subL
eft=2&autono=94439&tab=r

Room for more

Sangeeta Singh / New Delhi June 10, 2006

First it was the malls, now it is the hospitality industry. A hotel boom is
signalling the biggest spurt in building across major cities in India. >>





---

The projected demand supply gap  does seem high for Goa. It may be next only
to Bangalore's upper end  in the above comparison.





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[Goanet] Goa news for June 10, 2006

2006-06-10 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org

Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.


*** Football craze: Goa gears up to view World Cup (NDTV)

Football mania has swept the entire world and India too is all
set to catch the late night fever as Goa gears up for the
sporting spectacle in style.

http://www.ndtv.com/template/sportstemplate.asp?sportname=Report&callid=4&slug=Goa
gears up to view soccer World Cup&template=Fifa2006&id=28604


*** Goa passes policy for disabled (NDTV)

Goa has now taken a new step to ensure that disabled persons
have equal and easy access to not just all buildings but also
transport facilities. The smallest state of India has taken a
giant step towards equal rights for the disabled.

http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Goa
passes policy for disabled&id=88890


*** Overseas employment agency in Goa (IBN live)

Goa sets up employment agency for abroad employment seekers so
that foreign agencies wont exploit them.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/overseas-employment-agency-in-goa/12595-3.html


*** 'Goa to go in for smaller SEZs' (The Economic Times)

PANAJI: Goa Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane has said the state
will go in for smaller special economic zones (SEZs). "We have
become the first state in the country to approve the SEZ policy
which is as per Central government directives," Rane, said
here.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1628192.cms


*** Goa to expedite settlement procedure of Kuwait war victims
(New Kerala)

Panaji: Facing a deadline of September, the Goa NRI
Commissionerate has decided to expedite the procedure of
settlement of claims of Goan victims of Iraq-Kuwait war.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnews&id=7186


*** Goa to set up overseas employment agency (The Times of
India)

PANAJI: The Goa government would have its own overseas
employment agency by next month to save people belonging to the
state seeking employment abroad from being exploited by agents,
NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1635013.cms


*** Lifestyle responsible for spread of HIV/AIDS in Goa (New
Kerala)

Panaji: It is the lifestyle of people in Goa which makes the
state vulnerable for spread of diseases like HIV/AIDS, Goa
Governor S C Jamir today said.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnews&id=6853


*** BJP demands resignation of Goa Education Minister (New
Kerala)

Panaji: Delay in availability of National Council for Education
Research and Training (NCERT) textbooks has sparked off a
controversy in Goa with opposition BJP demanding resignation of
Education Minister Luizinho Faleiro.

http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnews&id=6855


*** GOA gets Warhammer MMO ( News ) (EuroGamer)

GOA, the videogames publishing division of France Telecom, has
secured the exclusive European publishing and online
operational rights for Mythic Entertainment's Warhammer Online:
Age of Reckoning.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65382


*** Oil Slick Threatens Tourist Beaches in India's Goa
(Environmental News Network)

An oil slick from a cargo ship that sank off India's coast is
threatening popular tourist beaches in the southern resort
state of Goa, environmentalists said on Tuesday.

http://www.enn.com/today.html?id=10618&ref=rss


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[Goanet] IRENE VAZ” FOOTBALLER TIATRIST.

2006-06-10 Thread A. Veronica Fernandes

“IRENE VAZ” FOOTBALLER TIATRIST

The first female Konkani stage artiste happened to be Regina Fernandes from 
Raia Salcette who was the wife of  “Pai Tiatristancho” Joao Agostinho 
Fernandes.  When she acted in Tiatro that time even in Marathi Dramas female 
artistes were not seen.  It is Regina Fernandes who created the way for 
females to participate in our Tiatros. Carmelina Fernandes her sister became 
the second woman in the history to take part in Tiatro.  Since then 
innumerable female artistes started taking part in Tiatros.  All of them 
should thank Regina Fernandes for creating them the way to be where they 
reached on Konkani Stage.  Irene Cardoso following in the foot-steps of 
Regina Fernandes is currently one of the popular Tiatrists hailing from 
Chinchinnim, Salcette Goa.  From the early age she acquired the taste of 
acting in school concerts and local dramas.  From here she was chosen and 
inducted into One Act Play competition at Assolna where as one of the judges 
for the competition, the current ace writer and director Mario Menezes 
spotted her and recommended her name to Goan Shakesphere the late Dr. 
Rosario Rodrigues in whose plays namely “Fulam ani Kolle”, “Dolle Ugddun 
Poi” and “Fuddlea Vorsa” she performed innumerable times during her 2 years 
stint with Rodrigues troupe, “Sopnam” was the first drama in which Dr. 
Rosario inducted her his show as a professional.  Then she was roped in by 
Patrick Dourado in whose plays namely “Nomoskar” and “Tin Fugotteanche 
Morann” she acted for about 2 years.  Then she acted for Jose Rod, Pascoal 
Rodrigues and many other directors.


During her last 20 years of stage acting she travelled many parts of the 
world including the Gulf and Dr. Rosario Rodrigues was the first director to 
engulf her in his troupe for Gulf tour when he came to Kuwait too with his 
wonderful display in “Ashram”.  Irene Cardoso does any role but her 
preference goes for tragic roles and sometimes she was spotted by the jury 
for being the best artistes in such roles.  As a singer also she excelled 
and besides getting best actress award, she also got best singer award in 
the competition organized by Kala Academy – Panjim, Goa.  She is very 
regular in coming to Kuwait to participate in Tiatros either staged by the 
local tiatrists or by the visiting tiatrists.  Recently she was in Kuwait to 
take part in the Tiatro staged by Salu Faleiro “Harxeant Hanslo Harxeant 
Roddlo” where she did her role extremely well and after seeing this role I 
was tempted to interview her which was conducted in the presence of her 
tiatrist husband, Hitman Sylvester Vaz.  Fluent in her talk, very bold and 
direct in her statements and answering all my queries with ease I was again 
tempted to ask her particulars beyond the stage arena and then I realized 
why this lady should not be considered different from others.  She is gifted 
with her high educational background of MA in Philosophy.  Being so much 
educated she worked as a Teacher in Navelim at Perpetual Convent.  After 
giving up this noble profession, she embarked on her own business venture 
where she feels she is successful.  In Cuncollim she is having her “Flower 
Shop”, STD, and Toys & Novelties Shop.  A very good example for other lady 
tiatrists to emulate.


During her scholastic career at School and College levels, she was a 
talented sports person taking part in high jump, long jump, sprints in 
running, volley ball, hockey and soccer.  She was an all round sportsperson. 
 Soccer being her forte, she represented Goa in the eves tournaments held  
in Rajasthan and Delhi.


Besides acting in Tiatro and being an entrepreneur of her own choice, she is 
very much involved in Charismatic movement, taking very active part in the 
Retreat conducted at Ambelim by Fr. Januario in Jesus & Mary Ministry.  
According to her, in her Tiatro acting she propagates Christ and quoting 
Bible she said “The exhortation in the Bible of Mathew 25: 14 – 30 inspired 
me into stage acting”.  Besides, she is also a social worker.  During her 
last trip to Kuwait along with her 8 year old son who also acted with her 
and his father Sylvester in Salu Faleiro’s Tiatro, she helped director Tony 
Dias from Goa in collecting some advertisement for him for the premiere of 
his new show recently released in Goa, the name of all the Kuwait 
advertisers have already appeared in the Goan daily Herald.


According to Irene Cardoso, the late Dr. Rosario Rodrigues was the best 
writer and director.  Her husband Sylvester Vaz according to Irene is the 
best singer and actor.  Best comedian is Domnick, said Irene.


As per her conviction, a good tiatrist should not use cheap language as many 
of the tiatrists use now a days including the Comedian “Burxo”.  The stage 
should be educative and not destructive and vindictive as many of the 
tiatrists are using it now a days including the Comedian Burxo who was
cancelled from one of the

Re: [Goanet] Goan Taliban?/response to Mario

2006-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote:
>
> Dear Mario,
> I am glad to hear that you have never felt ashamed.
> I on the other hand frequently feel ashamed about 
> many things in life. For instance I am ashamed I
> inherited my father's mustache and have to spend a 
> lot of money on tending to it every month. 
> 
Mario responds:
>
My suggestion is to try and find and appreciate what's
in the glass in front of you and not what is missing. 
One is not responsible for all that is going on in the
world.
>
Re. your moustache, that's nothing to be worried
about.  I inherited one too.  Nothing that a sharp
razor cannot fix :-))
>
Elisabeth writes:
>
> Thank God, there were many people in S.Africa that
> felt ashamed of apartheid. Thank God there were many
> people in America who in the 1960s felt ashamed that
> civil rights were being denied to blacks.  Being
> ashamed, on balance is a good thing because it
> forces you to take action. 
> 
Mario responds:
>
What makes you think those problem solvers were
"ashamed"?  After all, they were not the ones engaged
in the reprehensible behavior.  I prefer to think they
recognized a problem and worked to fix it.  Isn't it
likely that "shame" may prevent needed action
especially if it is based on a self-esteem problem?  
>
The ones who should be ashamed are those who see a
problem and allow it to continue and/or keep quiet
about it.
>

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[Goanet] Ek Kovita: Dor Vaddtana

2006-06-10 Thread lino dourado
   Dor Vaddtana…
 
  Petrolachi dor vaddli mhunn
   Skuttor asleli ti vikli
 Bosinim proves kelear
   Bhurgim kitem tori khatlim
 
  Mhoineantlem orddem pogarache duddu
Bosinche tikettik vetat
  Bosint proves kortelea provaxank
Latantlim sardine koxim  bhortat
 
   Suvas gheunk nitoll varo mellona
 Goenkar mhonnlolo bosint disona
   Foreign scent  marun nheslole kopdde
Ghann marta mhunn bail du’un dina.
 
   Dorek mhoineank petrol chodoi-choddoi
  Ghoribachea bolsak burak korit ravat
 Susegad Goenkarak konn tori zagoi
Don roddanchi saikol portean choloiat
 
Petrol na, khorch na, mar peddalam
  Lutt na, ghann na, obseog zaina
Kalchea mon’xanchim him mottoram
  Aicho monis kiteak choloina?
 
Lino B. Dourado
(Utodd’ddekar)




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[Goanet] Re: a taste of goa!

2006-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Can someone please help Anjani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FN

On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 04:51 +0530, Anjani Khanna wrote:
> Dear Fred,
>  
> You will be surprised to hear from me... and the request is stranger.
> I have been invited to Spain to do a ceramics workshop and one of the
> Indian organisers who lives in Japan has asked me to carry a bottle of
> coconut feni! I have asked several wine shops in Mumbai but I
> understand that feni is not available outside of Goa. I would be
> grateful, if you could check with people in Goa if indeed it is
> available in Mumbai and if so, where?
>  
> With many thanks!!
>  
> Anjani


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[Goanet] We love you dear Daughter/Sister, try to protect our family too.

2006-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
We love you dear Daughter/Sister, try to protect our family too.
 
This is inspired from what has happened.- Last night, a friend of mine was 
telling
me this with tears in his eyes.( Most men don't cry but some do when they are 
drunk
:).
I bring this before you with a purpose. 
 
Dear Sister/Daughter, don’t just try to protect your new family, we love you 
too.
 
Never think that we (parents) sold you off by giving you loads of dowry and 
allowing
you to marry the man of your choice. You always will remain in our hearts. You 
are
still a part of our family. You are still our daughter, you are still our 
sister.
 
No matter how stubborn or strict  is  your husband  (or children ) you can still
find ways to keep in contact with your parents/brothers/sisters. You can make a 
call
from outside (STD), you can send message through some one, you can send a 
birthday
card/Xmas card etc. Or just tell us in confidence what’s the problem, we can
understand, we are you family too, we will not let you down.
 
As a wife, you can make things to change or improve. But don’t delay or just 
don’t
keep quite doing nothing, think about us, think about our feelings.  Try to 
give us
a call, and if you are caught – so what ? You are only talking to you Mom or 
Dad or
brother or sister.
Husband and wife should have equal power and rights. In most cases,  the woman 
or
wife is most powerful, look around and see yourself and if possible, change
yourself. 
 
As a mother, you can educate your children, make them to understand what is 
right or
wrong. The seed of hatred which was sown in the hearts of your children, uopu 
as a
mother can weed it out.  Through children, things can even be patched up and 
don’t
wait till they are grown up and married  when new family member is added.
 
How can you possibly come down to Goa to celebrate your wedding Silver 
anniversary 
with a wedding like celebration, all are seen in the reception hall except your
mother/father/brothers/sisters ?
 
How can you possibly come down to Goa to celebrate your only son’s wedding 
where all
are seen except your parents and brothers and sisters.
 
How can you possibly stay away by not attending your mom’s funeral in Goa.
 
Why you are doing this ? what is our fault ?
Even if you blame us for something, and if we did not plead guilty try always to
give us the benefit of doubt –  We must be telling the truth. Try to understand,
don’t just be one sided,  we are your family too.  
 
One day, you may realise that your were wrong and we were right but then it may 
be
too late – your parents may not be alive  or your brothers/Sisters may not be 
able
to just forget and forgive you, specially after knowing what your parents have 
gone
through because of you and your acts.  You may say ‘it wasn't my fault’ but we 
will
still blame you for not doing enough you being a wife and a mother.

If you are likely to marry soon or just married, here is my advice.
Wife: Let your husband continue loving his family, if you have problem with it, 
just
stay out of it, never interfere when it comes to family matter. Or never allow 
his
family to fall apart, particularly the parents.
Husband: Don't be too possessive or stubborn. Leave you wife alone when it 
comes to
her family affair.  
Remember ' tuji famil tuka vhodd ani tichi famil tika vhodd' so, let's not 
interfere
with each others family. 

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[Goanet] Speculators eyeing World Cup in Gujarat? You bet!

2006-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1629030,prtpage-1.cms

AHMEDABAD: You can't blame them for not knowing when Brazil has its
first outing at the FIFA World Cup in Germany. The Sensex slide is
exercising their minds much more than the sliding tackles which
opponents are planning against Ronaldinho and Co. But don't be
mistaken by this ignorance about the frenzy in Frankfurt.

For, wherever there is money to be made, there is a Gujarati
speculator. In fact, an army of them who can't wait to test the
bookie's odds. Everyone knows Brazil are the favourites. Big deal!

The knack is in picking the dark horses which yields more money than
the thin margins that betting on a Brazilian win offers as returns.
Bookies in Gujarat are busy these days taking bets from those would
like to give cricket a respite.

They have networked themselves with syndicates which have a worldwide
cartel extending from the small town of Unjha to Ahmedabad, Mumbai to
London. Bets are being taken on who would win the finals and which
team would head their respective groups. ..

--
DIE DULCI FREURE,
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

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[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes (In Brief) * June 10, 2006 * Goa looks on as "biggest football party kicks off"

2006-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
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WORLD NEWS: Biggest football party kicks offs. (Herald)
World War XVIII (Gomantak Times)
Spectacular opening for World Cup (Navhind Times)

o English in Standard I will check Goa's high dropout rate -Luizinho. H
  Parrikar blasts Luizinho for English in Std I, late arrival of
  textbooks.
o Overseas Employment Agency on anvil for Goa. (H)
o Sonsodo (Margao) garbage dumpyard gives officials a headache. (H)
o Rotary Club Vasco holds career info fair, Don Bosco's June 10-11.
o Goa govt earmarks Rs 500 million for biotech sector. (NT)

Around 50 plots bought by foreigners in Bardez: This purchase by
foreigners of non-Indian origin in Bardez has put a high pressure on
land and a shooting up of the prices along the coast. Mutations have
already been done of 49 cases based on sale deeds executed before the
sub-registrars. This information was furnished by the Office of the
Bardez Mamlatdar under the Right to Information Act to the Nationalist
Youth Congress president Rajan Ghate. (Herald) 

o Fields contaminated with sewage water at Bhate Bhatt Vasco. (H)
o Married woman, Rekha Poojary (35) succumbs to burn injuries. Cuncolim.
o Margao civic fathers elect panel members unopposed. (H)
o Navelim priest Fr Jose Antonio da Costa accorded sendoff. (H)
o British national Paul Reeder reported missing at Palolem. (H)
o Churchill warns against dredging of Rvier Zuari. (H)
o Babani Shaikh of Taleigao summoned: Chimbel murder. (NT)
o Programme in International Studies at Goa University. (NT)
o Raw deal for Hospicio morgue attendant. (H)

GREEN FINGERS: Seeds available at subsidised rates at the Canacona
Zonal Agri Office. Including lady finger (bhendi), ridge-gourd,
bitter-gourd, brinjal, long bean, val, etc. Rs 5 per packet. (H)

EDUARDO FALEIRO announces measures for NRI welfare: Degrees awarded by
Goa University are not recognised in Kuwait and Gulf, he noted. NRI
Commissioner has also taken measures for settlement of claims of Goan
victims of the Iraq-Kuwait war of 1990-91. (H)

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