[Goanet] JUDAS DID NOT BETRAY JESUS
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Thought of sharing this information . Monday, April 10, 2006 Jesus Christ! The television connection at home was down over the weekend, as were a few other electronic items, which made life very very different. I desist from saying 'difficult', for this is how things were once upon a time not so long ago, before technology carpet-bombed our homes, and minds. Not an avid TV watcher, except for the late-night, male-specific zombie act with the remote control, I wasn't too bothered. But on learning that National Geographic was telecasting its documentary on the Gospel of Judas on Sunday night, I decided to have myself invited for drinks by a friend, and thus ended up catching the rivetting drama. This piece had been simmering since the news of the Gospel of Judas broke on Thursday-Friday, and although my favourite Sunday columnist Vir Sanghvi has quite taken the wind out of the sails I was planning to use, let me share my thoughts on the matter. There's a lot one can dislike about the West, but at the same time there's much more one can like about it. Conversely, there's such a lot one can love about India, and at the same time there's so much one can dislike about it. Without doubt, for me the whole Gospel of Judas episode reaffirms my belief in the liberal nature of Western civilisation. Make no mistake, the latest Gospel strikes at the very core of Christiandom as we know it. Yet, there are no protests, no opposition, no cries of 'Christianity in danger' or any such thing. It's possible that many among the experts who worked on authenticating the gospel were practicing/believing Christians. Yet, when it came to lending science's cachet to the documents, there was no holding back. Has the religion weakened one bit? On the contrary, I think the faith has gained from the whole episode. Sure, everyone knows how organised religions work, so there's no surprise at how the gospel was sought to be suppressed in the early days of Christianity. Suppression of inconvenient texts, opinions, after all, is the stape of all faiths. We see it all the time around us. I maybe wrong, but for the life of me I cannot imagine such a scenario in India, like new evidence presenting our epics in a new light and the country going about its usual business. Once upon a time, maybe, but now? No way. We were the original liberal civilisation, yet today we have let dogma take over and stultify everything. Before you start throwing stones, abuse etc my way, let me add that my faith is firm, and needs no certification or affirmation from a bunch of lunatics. While I was mulling over the Gospel of Judas, another news report in a morninger today caught my eye. That was about the central government readying to throw the book at artist M F Husain for offending sentiments with some of his paintings. Regular readers of this blog know my views on that artificial controversy so I will not waste time repeating it. But the contrast between the two cultures has never been starker in my mind than when I read this report. What struck me the most as I read about and watched the Judas gospel was the language that was attributed to Jesus Christ: '...You will sacrifice the man that clothes me...' Jesus is said to have told Judas. For us in India, this is familiar language, and harks back to the Vedanta and so many of our mystics who deride the physical body as an impediment after realising their self. I will not get into the argument whether Jesus visited India and picked up eastern spirituality, as suggested by a school of thought, but restrict myself to observing that the land from which such liberalism sprung seems to have lost its course. Which is the real tragedy. so believes Saisuresh Sivaswamy _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Fwd: JESUS MAY HAVE WALKED ON ICE ,NOT WATER -STUDY
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sidB6 -- -- Forwarded message -- From: Araujo Jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Apr 10, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: JESUS MAY HAVE WALKED ON ICE ,NOT WATER -STUDY To: goanet@goanet.org Here we go again, first its Judas did not betray Jesus, try surfing the website www.timesofindia.com and you will see the flashy animated stuff" JUDAS...JESUS" or "DID JUDAS BETRAY JESUS" then an articel Exclusive Gospel of Judas. A study in Miami states from the New Testament"Jesus walked on Water" while a Florida University professor believes there could be a less miraculous explanation -he walked on a floating piece of ice" as his study found an unusual combination of water and atmospheric conditions in what is now nothern israel. which could have led to ice formation on the Sea of Galilee. The professor used records of the Mediterranean Sea's surface temperatures and statistical models to examine the dynamics of the sea of Galilee which israelis know now as lake Kinneret. The study found that a period of cooler temperatures in the area between 1,500 and 2,600 years agn could have included the decades in which jesus lived.A drop in temperature below freezing could have caused ice thick enough to support a human from on the surface of the freshwater lake near the western shore. Nof the professor of oceanography at Florida State University said it might have been highly impossible for distant observers to see apiece of Floating ice surrounded by Water. Nof offered his study--published in the April edition of the Journal of Paleolimnology- as a "possible explanation" for JESUS WALK ON WATER. He concluded saying " If you ask me if i believe someone walked on water no i don't" May be somebody walked on the ice I don't' know . I believe that something natural was there that explains it" Just pray that we don't have to hear or read one day " JESUS WAS NOT JESUS" Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] JUDAS DIDN'T BETRAY JESUS
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Today's Times of India which was updated at 11.41 hrs IST , (i was surfing this site) states "THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS TELLS A DIFFERENT TALE POTRAYING HIM AS A FAVOURED DISCIPLE , JUDAS DIDN'T BETRAY JESUS" . _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Portuguese Passports
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Mario's comment on growing respect towards indians in many countries could be partially right due to the nuclear programmes, Information Technology booming (but most is now being outsourced) engineers, docs, etc. but that does not stop the authorities at the immigration to lookdown on the Indian Passports. As Mario comments Indians are taking over England but there is a strong resentment to it among the Brits.(though brit's can't help it). When Mario explains the above issues , indirectly he too accepts that Indian PP are not respected unlike Portuguese Passport. I hope Mario has an Indian Passport. Mario may have read and seen on TV's how india is progressing and shining , but merely sitting at one corner of the World you may not experience the situations on Ground and i can tell you by experience's all is not well with Indian Passport . We should question ourselves why having an EU passport is better than Indian Passport, why the trend in today's world is moving to US and other places and the craze for Green Card, why all this fuss. Hundreds and thousands of Indians accross the Globe are seeking for dual citizenship, or some trying to renounce their Indian citizenship by abiding the law of those countries which allows them to be a citizen . Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] PRE & POST 1961- OH TO BE IN GOA
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Congs. to Oscar & Hazel Lobo , for their contribution on the above subject i must say i have atleast learnt things which i did not know . Wish those writers who want it their way but can't have it accept the fact ,that Portuguese were a decent nation and who did something to Goans is a matter of appreciation and PRE-1961 was better. Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Who can take up this exercise
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- WHo can take up this exercise of checking how many unsolved cases are lying with dust covered in the courts of law in Goa, how many innocent victims are Languishing in Goa Jails, how many cases and from which year employment exchange has been recruiting and not recuriting educated youth, or is it pay first and only then we shall send you a call letter from Exchange.Who can tell us the crime rate in Goa, has it increased or decreased? Any takers? Araujo J _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Priest Murdered
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Let's get our minds together and track down on the investigations being carried out by the police, confessions being made by the accused and the status of the case , whether justice is going to prevail, if yes thank God if not then we all have to be blamed for it. Offtrack issue are being discussed about this murder which i think personally is not a good sign of discussion on the net. Let's stick to the gist of the subject matter and disregard the rest as it has no end. United we stand divided we fall Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants & OCI status
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Mario, Personal experience makes one wise, if you wanna experience try this receipe. Carry two passports one indian and other European or /East African or any other african country check Produce all of them in a jumbled order the immigration authorities at any airport, he's gonna pick Indian Last. Second objective question, At the Mumbai International airport , carry an indian PP and other European , check it out for yourself. Thirdly there are many Indians accross the globe who are dubious in their moves and behaviour (its sad though) but one has to live with it, if the financial climate suits them in USA then they are USA Indians, and so forth, gone are those days of patriotism. Today its survival of the fittest . In short acquiring a Portuguese Passport for every Goan is must, the argument is why are we moving out of GOA and paving way for outsiders to move in, its a cycle as we move out others move in GOA and we do the same in the rest of the world. Love Goa, Love Goans, Love your motherland Love your country but if Goenkars do get a chance to travel with a Portuguese Passport anywhere in the world, do go but please turn back to help other Goenkars who want to climb the ladder of prosperity with the rest of Goans, turn back by contributing to your motherland Goa. Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
