Re: [Goanet] Feast of St. Anthony.............. (plus a Konkani Hymn)
BOU FEST SANT ANTONINCHEM TUMKAM SOGLEANC ANVDETAM Do you know the other popular hymn of Saint Anthony in Konkani? SANT ANTONI BOKTA SANTA - it goes further but i would like to know the words regards Herman --- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 13th June. > > > > > If you can't see the Image above, then click here.. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/165579912/ > > Happy Feast to you all. > > > Saiba Sant Anton, aiz hea tujea festa disa, magtaum > tujea lagim, gal mhunn tujem > kurpechem bhesanv soglea amchea Goemkar > bhavam-bhoinnicher. > > Orasao/Hymn > We used to sing St. Anton (& SFX) hymns at our home > almost every day after teors > or Rosary with our mother, father, brothers and > Sister, but now a days there is no > Ters nor Aimori and Cable/TV to blame I > suppose). > > Here is the popular Konkani orasao (hymn) of St. > Anthony. > If you can, please sing with your family tonight > > > Sant Antoni Bokta > Firgueamche kuddichea > Tujea livrar kheuta > Minin Jesu Raza > > Minin Jezu khellta munnon > Nosa Senhorin ghatli dimi > Orasao mental kori > Bhoktu Sant Antoni > > Doria munntea mazar > Koslo zalo dunvor > Padri eta kumvor > Bhoktu Sant Antoni > > Jeruzalea Xarantu > Rogtamchio zalio zori > Ochoriam kori > Bhoktu Sant Antoni. > > Davidanu Sangilem > Salamavan sopon parkilem > Ballok hantu kheutalem > Bhocta Sant Antonichea > > Xastro porgotta astana > Magli noman mori > Morti livrar keli > Aplea bapaiveli > > Mezu armar korun > Furutu manddilem > Melolem bhurgem tuvem > Ochorian jivem kelem > > Xinvteam mogureamcho > Kelo eku pollu > Milagrimcho bhoktu > (Bhoktu) Sant Antoni > > Harpam violam vazun > Muzganim kelo Kantu > Firgeamgelo Santu > Bhoktu Sant Antoni > > Sant Antoni bhokta > Ochoream tujim tera (13) > Choudavem kori bhokta > Amchea papiamchea xara. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > for Goa & NRI related info... >http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank > interest rates etc etc >(for updates etc click below) > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- ASK NOT WHAT THE COUNTRY CAN DO FOR US ASK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE COUNTRY This is the thinking of the west and this is how we can surpass the best --- Sachin Phadte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very interesting article. However, only a statement > of wish, there is no > mention about the programmes that Rahul has in mind. > There is one statement > in the article that struck me most, which is as > follows: > > "Despite his dream of India surpassing the West we > were travelling > through poor, dusty farming villages so far > untouched by India's economic > miracle." > > So, without some solid ideas, it is difficult to > make a judegement. I am > asking this question in the same manner in which I > had asked about the > detailed posting of the rise of Babush on the > political scene in Goa. > > Sachin Phadte. > > > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > __ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: New Marine Lines.
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- I remember the american library and of course liberty cinema nirmala niketan, bombay hospital etc I am born and bred up in dhobitalao - Marine Lines - Dabul. Give me more info about the family / details of your friend and let me try to recollect. maybe I may know him by face rather than by name regards Herman _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] New Marine Lines.
can u give me more precise info which place u talking about. --- eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone out there remember the beautiful homes on > the stretch from the > Mirabelle Hotel to the US Inf. Svc. liabrary -- all > replaced by office > buildings in the 70's. > Netter Gerson DaCunha lived in one of them !! > > eric. > > > > > > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. > Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > %(user_optionsurl)s > > This email sent to %(user_address)s > __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=416 | -- SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID, IF THE CRIMINALS TRIED AND PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT, IN MY OPINION THEY SHOULD BE HANGED. IF THIS LAW IS CARRIED ON STRICTLY IT WILL DETER OTHERS NOT TO DO THE SAME CRIME OR MURDER. ANYONE CAN BEAR 25 YEARS OR LIFE TERM JAIL PUNISHMENT AS LONG AS THEY LIVE, HOWEVER NO ONE WANTS TO DIE YOUNG ATLEAST. DONT YOU AGREE?
[Goanet] Re: The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=416 | -- I understand and agree that we can all get along. But can we get along with people who come in with devilish intentions? in the 70s or 80s i remember in Goa, we could go out with our doors open, just a dog to guard the house. Try doing it now. I was very happy and proud that the Goan Police was quick to nab the culprits, but if proven guilty, they should be brought to extreme justice, not holding them in prison at the cost of the state, for another 10-25 years before they get released again. A strong law and rule is required to ward off such dubious characters, otherwise Goans peaceloving life will be engulfed with problems regards Herman --- Marlon Menezes wrote: > I would like to pay tribute to the exempleary > courage > exhibited by Heman and Como in pushing for the > immediate execution of these alleged criminals.
Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK PEOPLE COME TO GOA AND ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPENDOOR, GOOD HEARTED AND PEACELOVING GOANS. THE GOVERNMENT OF GOA TOGETHER WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GOA HAVE TO LOOK MORE DEEPER IN THIS MATTER AND USE A FIRM IRON HAND IN DEALING WITH SUCH PROBLEMS I REGRET THE DEATH OF FR. EUSEBIO, ALTHOUGH HE MAY HAVE FORGIVEN THE KILLERS. MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE. BUT MY OPINION IS A MURDERER SHOULD BE HANGED HERMAN --- CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > To avenge and prevent ghastly murders like that of > Fr. Eusebio Ferrao in > Macazana, Salcette, Goa, I hereby urge the Congress > Government of Goa CM > Pratapsingh Rane and the leader of the opposition > Manohar Parrikar to > declare that the perpetrators Amit Shukla and Manish > Dhubey be arrested and > brought to Justice in Goa by widely televised > "Public Stoning and > Cruxifiction Upside Down in the Margao Maidan" on > Good Friday, 2006. > > No long drawn out court cases for these murderers. > If the Goa Police is not > capable of carrying out this punishment, may be they > should seek the help of > the Government of Saudi Arabia. > > Remember Mr. CM and Mr. ex-CM - "Justice Delayed is > Justice Denied" > > That will send a message loud and clear that the > people of Goa will not > tolerate any of the dacoities that are prevalent in > other parts of India esp > UP, Bihar, etc. and we will have our own detterent > system of justice. The > cruxifiction of these dacoits will also have other > overtones and widespread > support of the Goan people. > > That will also scare away and keep out dacoits from > other parts of India > from coming to Goa and commiting dacoities and > murders. > > Best Regards, > > Carmo D'Cruz > > > > __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
[Goanet] Re: Danish cartoons & DA VINCI's Code
Talking about Danish Cartoons - DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT IN SOME OF THE GULF STATES THEY TEAR THE BIBLE AND HOLY PICTURES APART IF ONE IS CAUGHT AT THE AIRPORT WITH IT - What do you think about this? Is this respecting other religions? Secondly why are the Christians quite about the book of DA VINCI's CODE which will be made as a movie. Is this book not going against Christianity?
Re: [Goanet] RESIDENTIAL GOA
Hello Helen Reference to your email can you tell me what are the chances of a person being hit by a car while walking on a pavement? There are chances but that may be either one in a hundred or million. so same goes with snakes in Goa. I have lived in Goa in the village and in a apartment in the city, before coming to UK. I did see snakes, mongoose, monkeys, ant eater, foxes, reptiles and various other animals, and I enjoyed their sights. But in the city you will not come across any such animals cause they love to stay in their habitat only. Hope this answers your query. I am sure you and your husband will love Goa and its beautiful natural surroundings. Herman --- Helen Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > For some time now my hubby and I have thought about > buying an apartment in Goa > and trying to move out there to live. > > My main fear however is the snakes, scorpions, etc. > I have one helluva phobia > about snakes. I have been told that snakes can come > into your homes in the > monsoon season and if this is the case then our > plans for a lovely future are > scuppered before we even start. > > I know this could be true about rural Goa but could > you please give me an > honest answer to this. > > If we had an apartment in the residential area, ie > where the shops, etc are, > and didn't stay on the ground floor, what would be > the chances of us > encountering snakes in our home or on the main > streets. > > We have been on holiday to Goa many times and > luckily, so far, only snakes I > saw were with snake charmers so I could give them a > very wide berth. > > I would dearly love an honest answer to this query > and would very much > appreciate it. > > Many thanks > > Yours sincerely > Helen Lancaster > > __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
Re: [Goanet] sale of Goan treasures
hello mabel are u from uk? which part? I am a goan just moved into uk regards Herman --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would like to thank Mr. de Malar for his article > on the importance of keeping > Goan art and artefacts in Goa for our future > generations. It is so appalling > that these 'treasures' are not protected and > safeguarded in the country. > The government and churches have to take > responsibility for this and educate > the people about the significance of all historic > and artistic objects. Mabel > Santos > > > ___ > > Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Feast of St. Francis Xavier
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- ANVDETAM TUMCAM SOGLEANC BOU FEST SAM FRANCIS XAVIERACHEM VIVA GOA HERMAN & FAMILY -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Re: on mixed marriages and short sightedness
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- reading your mail i was flabbergasted. what high (mis)-logic and diction (although mispelt) - it went above my understanding in simple words please read Fr. Anthonys letter to Mid day as i said in my earlier mail we can write a lot of things and blame the priests by sitting in our comfortable homes with our families. --- ryan figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have been following the mixed marriages thingy > closely for a couple of weeks now and i just had to comment...
Re: [Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- George Pinto (GP) asked: 1. Were nuns consulted in the process? Or was it a male only decision process? Herman D'Souza (HP) 1:. Do nuns take all the decisions of the church and the parish or only the priests? GP II: I take it that nuns were not consulted. Assuming that is true, the paternalistic male-centered approach would benefit by consulting nuns. Nuns after all run schools, orphanages, hospitals, and could offer input. Ans III) so also there are lay catholic men and women running big companys who can offer inputs. but the fact is the priests run the church headed by the Bishop / Cardinal in Bombay. most of the religions have always been a male centered. *** GP 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a religious directive from people who have not spent time in the challenges of marriage? HD 2 Ans: Maybe they have contacted the lay catholics. but lay people too have different opinions just like you and me. GP II: On such a significant issue concerning lay Catholics, I am surprized that consulting them is considered an option, and not a necessity. Ans III) Maybe they have contacted lay people. but everyone has a different opinion just like you and me. *** GP 3. Does the policy reflect an underlying intolerance of and superiority over other religions? Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it comes to marriage. HD 3. Ans. Its not an underlying intolerance of superiority but on the contrary it is the diminishing number of catholic girls who marry in the church with other faiths as a fashion and land up following the other religion. (although some girls stick to catholism). GP II: This works both ways as you point out. In a multi-religious & secular society, respect for each religion or lack of religion is important. I am not sure the directive promotes that. Why not merely suggest people marry within their religion if that is the goal, why the need for a directive? Ans III) cause this is not written in the bible to marry within the religion so the priest cannot impose it on people. however they can restrict the catholic marriages within the church *** GP 4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics under the policy or move away from the church - and marriage? HD 4: only time will tell. but the point is with this policy the priests are trying to do what is in their capacity to avoid the catholic girls specially marrying into other religions. GP II: Religion is one aspect of a marriage, there are other significant issues. Would a Hindu boy and Catholic girl both from North Goa have a better chance at a successful marriage than a Catholic girl from North Goa and a Chinese Catholic boy? Ans III) you are going away from the subject. any marriage can be successful or not depends upon how they live their life and interact with each other. we are talking about performing catholic marriages in the church and not about a boy from india marrying a girl from timbaktu. To summarize, catholics instead of supporting the priest always try to bring hurdles and thats how catholicism is being slowly branching into different forms of christianity --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA > INITIATIVE | > | > | > | by visiting this link and following the > instructions therein | > | > | > | > http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html > | > -- > George Pinto (GP) asked: 1. Were nuns consulted in > the process? Or was it a male only decision > process? > > Herman D'Souza (HP) 1:. Do nuns take all the > decisions of the church and the parish or only the > priests? > > GP II: I take it that nuns were not consulted. > Assuming that is true, the paternalistic > male-centered approach would benefit by consulting > nuns. Nuns after all run schools, orphanages, > hospitals, and could offer input. > > *** > GP 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a > religious directive from people who have not spent > time in the challen
[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- 1. Were nuns consulted in the process? Or was it a male only decision process? Ans. Do nuns take all the decisions of the church and the parish or only the priests? or are they consulted about the running of the parish ? think about this answer first and then you will get your answer to your quetion. 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a religious directive from people who have not spent time in the challenges of marriage? Ans: Maybe they have contacted the lay catholics. but lay people too have different opinions just like you and me. even they keep on contacting lay people they will never be able to make a decision cause there are millions of lay people who some may agree and some dont. 3. Does the policy reflect an underlying intolerance of and superiority over other religions? Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it comes to marriage. Ans. Its not an underlying intolerance of superiority but on the contrary it is the diminishing number of catholic girls who marry in the church with other faiths as a fashion and land up following the other religion. (although some girls stick to catholism) To make the catholic faith stronger there should be some rules set up by the church which we should abide by it. 4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics under the policy or move away from the church - and marriage? only time will tell. but the point is with this policy the priests are trying to do what is in their capacity to avoid the catholic girls specially marrying into other religions. I will tell you an incident where a catholic girl got married into the other religion thru the church and although she was a catholic she stopped going to the church due to her husbands family policy. at the end when she died her own family wanted to bury her by catholic rites. but her husbands family did not allow saying that she is in his religion and the final rites had to be done in his religion. this is one of the many cases which happens I hope this satisfies your questions. --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herman > > Your emotive comments do not answer the questions I > asked! I wrote nothing about respecting > priests or the sacrifices they make (btw, I respect > lay people and the sacrifices they make too). > > Kindly re-read my questions. > > Regards, > George > > > --- Herman D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > first of all you should respect the priests as > they are sacrificing their full lives for God. > > > > if you have seen other religions you will > understand why they have come to such decisions. > >
[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- first of all you should respect the priests as they are sacrificing their full lives for God. if you have seen other religions you will understand why they have come to such decisions. do you know in islam a muslim lady is not allowed to marry into any other religion. if she gets married the man also has to be a muslim. however a muslim man is allowed to get married to a non muslim lady, and the children have to be muslims in doing this they increase the population of muslims. everyone has a different opinion as all are different, and I think the priests have taken this stance based on the overall feedback they must have got from their experiences of performing marriages Its not about intolerance against any other religion By doing this they will not stop mixed marriages as people who are determined will get married to whom they like, but atleast they are trying to protect and increase the diminishing catholic population we are laymen and sitting in our comfortable homes we can comment anything. but before we comment please try to do the sacrifices and work what the priests and nuns are doing. --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is difficult to believe that unmarried men in > their 50's and 60's (Bishops and Cardinals) make > these decisions about marriage in this world. A > couple of questions: > > 1. Were nuns consulted in the process? Or was it a > male only decision process? > 2. Were lay Catholics consulted? Or was it a > religious directive from people who have not spent > time in the challenges of marriage? > 3. Does the policy reflect an underlying intolerance > of and superiority over other religions? > Btw, other religions are restrictive too when it > comes to marriage. > 4. Are more Catholics going to marry Catholics under > the policy or move away from the church - and > marriage? > > Regards, > George
[Goanet] Re: No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- In response to your query it cannot be considered to be a mixed marriage. when a person converts before marriage be it a hindu muslim jew or christian, to the faith of his or her spouse and both are of the same religion it cannot be termed as mixed marriage. they can then get married into either a temple, mosque, synogogue or church as both will then belong to same faith. only during marriage when both are of different religions they are termed as mixed marriage --- Sachin Phadte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, there is one query that comes to my mind. Will the church > consider the wedding to be a 'mixed marriage', if the non-Christian spouse > converts to Chrstianity for the sake of having a church wedding? I am > assuming that the Christian spouse or his/her family insists on a church > wedding. I know the couple have an option to be married in front of an > appropriate authority, and that the marriage will be legally recognised. > > Sachin Phadte
Re: [Goanet] No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- I am sure the heads of the church in bombay has thought deeply over it and have taken a logical decision on this subject I respect their decision --- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA > INITIATIVE | > | > | > | by visiting this link and following the > instructions therein | > | > | > | > http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html > | > -- > Source: > http://www.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/november/122829.htm > > > No more mass for mixed marriages > By: Lajwanti D'Souza > > November 9, 2005 > > > In a bid to encourage Mumbai's Catholics to marry > within the community, the > church has decided that individuals marrying outside > the religion, will not > be allowed the wedding mass. > > According to the Archdiocese of Mumbai, headed by > Cardinal Ivan Dias, this > recent directive comes from Rome, and will > discourage Catholics from > mixed-marriages. Such couples are also not given the > sacrament. > > But there are voices of protest among both clergy > and flock. Priests say > that with young Catholics working at call centres, > airlines and media, > there is every likelihood that mixed marriages will > increase. > > Fr Joe Pereira, head of St Anthony's Church, > Mankhurd, said the new rule > was not in keeping with the times. "The church has > to change. Today's > working conditions are such that people work long > hours at office. We > should be open to the idea of mixed marriage as > people are bound to find > love at their workplace." > > Defending the rule, Fr Anthony Charanghat, spokesman > for the Archdiocese of > Mumbai, said that the decision was taken to curb the > increasing trend of > Catholics marrying outside the community. > > "We hope that these (mixed) marriages are happening > for the right reasons > and that they are convinced about their decisions. > We respect every > religion, but we have decided to apply this rule to > encourage marriage > within the community," he said. > > Married couples speak > > Married couples are also hurt at this step-motherly > treatment for mixed > marriages. Francisca Lobo, married to Mukund Nair, > said, "As it is, the > sacrement is not administered for mixed marriages. > We got married in church > because we wanted to." > > Another couple, Anna Marie D'Souza and Biswajit Das, > said the rule was > unfair. "We respect each other's religions and will > bring up our children > in a way that they understand both faiths. Religion > should not act like a > corporate house and dictate terms," said D'Souza. > > = > > > > > > __ Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/fabmall/index.html
Re: [Goanet]Goan dances around the world
Sure I would be willing to go for this dance. I will not dance with the most desirable woman, however I am ready to dance with the rest of the most desirable women at the dance. And by the way, how do one judge a most desirable woman??? Different men have different tastes? am I right? Ones persons food may also be another persons poison. Herman --- Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > I am going "Cecil" and will try to take a poll on > Goanet. > > Is there any Goan man here who would accept an > invitation to go for the following dance? A dance > where the invitee has just one restriction. That > restriction is that you can dance with anyone you > want > to, but are barred from dancing with the most > desirable woman at the function. > > If there is someone who would go for such a dance, > please let me know. > > Mervyn3.0 > Notice that I have not complicated things by adding > that the guest may also be barred from going to > certain areas like the bar, etc. If any of you think > that this is an analogy for the US presidency, Cuba, > > etc, well, that is purely coincidental. > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ Too much spam in your inbox? Yahoo! Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE! http://in.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Thank you for your appreciation Mr. Fausto, I am basically not in india, but presently in the Gulf. I think one of the easiest and best ways to spread konkani is linking it to all the goan websites. however i would luv to assist in anyway I can. Mog Asunc Herman --- "Fausto V. D'Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Konkani Course > What Herman says makes a lot of sense. Let's > encouarge them. Requesting > hehman to join me in the effort. > Zankam Konknni xikchi humed asa tanche khatir > xikxonn patth ani audio > casette asat. Xivai, Sarki Amchi Bhas Sompi hem Fr. > Rodrigues-achem pustok > asa. > Konnak xikonk zai tannim khobor kaddun gheum ieta. > Borivli Konknni Kurs suru korum-ia. Hermanachean > toiar korun mhaka kolloum > ieta. > Konknni vachtoleank V. Ixtt, Gulab, Goan Review him > masik asat. Gheum-ia ani > vachum-ia. > Fausto > - Original Message - > From: "Herman D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Goanet]Konkani Course > > > > Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam > > kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo > > nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis > > kosem udik pieatelem? > > > > teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan > > konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani > xinkonc > > etelet. > > > > instead of criticizing them we should encourage > them > > to speak konkani. > > > > As i had said in my previous mail that there are > three > > type of goans living in bombay > > > > one who loves to proudly speak write and read > konkani > > one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public > > and one who has never come in contact with konkani > > > > we should be proud of our language and no doubt we > > have to speak english at business but whenever > > opportunity permits we should openly speak > konkani. > > > > with best regards > > Herman D'Souza > > > > > > --- "Fausto V. D'Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ## > > > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > > > # Want to check the archives? > > > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# > > > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > > > reflect respect to others # > > > > > > ## > > > > > > > > > GRAF has been conducting Konkani courses in > Bombay > > > for the past 4 years. > > > Although the courses are aimed at teaching > Konkani > > > to the Goans, we end up > > > teaching Konkani to non-goans who have either > > > settled in Goa, or have > > > business in Goa and/or have a holiday home in > Goa. > > > GRAF also conducts Konkani Seminars atleast > twice a > > > year but the attendance > > > is very poor. Basically Goans are not proud of > their > > > language, suffer from a > > > complex. > > > The Konkani masses in Bombay are conducted by > the > > > Mangaloreans. The hymnal, > > > Lectionary etc. are in Kan'nad Konkani. I have > > > conducted Konkani courses for > > > even five students. If Borivli goans are > interested > > > in learning Konkani, > > > enroll 20 people and we will conduct the course > even > > > without a nominal fee. > > > First time in history a Konkani show was > organised > > > by KBM Mumbai at > > > Shanmukhananda hall which was attending by 2400 > > > people speaking Konkani. And > > > out of this only 5% were goans. > > > Ghoddeak udka xim > > > vhorom ieta, punn udok pivonk nett korunk > > > nozo.Kursachi vatt polloun > > > ravtam, na zalear Khursachi Vatt korum-ia. > > > Fausto > > > > > > Herman wrote: > > > > my suggestion is if there are any goans > interested > > > to > > > >
[Goanet]Re: Konkani Course
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Ghoddeak udkachim passun vorot zalear faido nam kiteak ghodeak tan lagot zalear-uch udok pieatolo nam zalear ghoddo, vho khoinchent zanvor vho munis kosem udik pieatelem? teka lagon zhe goeamkar konkani uloinam te, tankan konkanichi tan dakonc zaie tednach te konkani xinkonc etelet. instead of criticizing them we should encourage them to speak konkani. As i had said in my previous mail that there are three type of goans living in bombay one who loves to proudly speak write and read konkani one who are ashamed to talk konkani in public and one who has never come in contact with konkani we should be proud of our language and no doubt we have to speak english at business but whenever opportunity permits we should openly speak konkani. with best regards Herman D'Souza
Re: [Goanet]Fw: Over 500 people attend Goan fest
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi reference to this mail I can comment that there are three types of Goan people who are residing in bombay The first type are the ones who love to speak, read and write konkani and they are very proud doing this The second type are the ones who know konkani and as eddie said shy to talk it openly in public, as they prefer talking in english (as sometimes i have a feeling they think that their value goes down when they speak konkani openly) and the third type of goans are the ones although they have been born to goan parent(s), but for some reason they have never been taught this beautiful language or they may not be living in a environment where konkani is being spoken. I too am born and bred in bombay but i do love to speak konkani openly and also all the other languages with different type of friends and acquantances who find it comfortable talking their language(s). but when it comes to business terms, english of course is the business language which has to be spoken. my suggestion is if there are any goans interested to learn konkani in bombay there should be konkani courses conducted in bombay. But the question is who will come forward to conduct these konkani language course? and will it be fruitful? I hope you will like and accept my view points DEU BOREM KORUN TUMCAM ANI GOEANKARAN MODEM MOG ANI EKVOTPON SODANCH ASUNC with regards Herman D'Souza --- Eddie Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ## > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # Want to check the archives? > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## > > Dear Friends, > Below is the pvt mail I rvcd from one of the > Goanetter from Mumbai > in response to my posting of news item last month. > > Well, I too was surprised to read that only 500 > attended the Goan fest. > I am sure there are more than 2000 Goan families..in > IC parish which > has 20,000+ parishioners. In Jan this year I had > taken my full family for > Prince Jacob's 'Padri' in Borivili and I think over > a 1000 goans watched the > show and that too on weekday. > > I do not agree with my friend that a high percentage > of Goans in Mumbai > do not know konkani. I know many goans in Mumbai who > speak konkani > at home but are shy to speak outside. My wife who is > born and brought up > in Mumbai can read and write konkani fluently...and > I encourage my daughter > also to speak konkani. > > Can Fausto..(GRAF)...share his views on this. > > Regards > Eddie Verdes > Chinchinim/Jeddah/KSA. > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:16 AM > Subject: Over 500 people attend Goan fest (Eddie) > > > > Hello There Eddie!!! > > This is regarding your news item on captioned > subject and qoutes from > > Dorothy Fernandes Resident of IC Colony "I have > also attended the previous > > shows held by GRAF. However, not many > youngsters attend this > > festival." & Mary Anne Rodrigues Resident of SV > Road "I didn't attend the > > show as all programmes are in Konkani. Since I > don't speak the language at > > home I find it difficult to understand.". > > > >From the quotes it's obvious that a high percentage > of Goans young & old, > > based in mumbai,DO NOT KNOW konkanni.Mangloreans > have an extra > > script(TULLU/KANARESE) and [yet/so] speak their > language well, while Goans > > speak english at home by force of habit? We need > to encourage our youth to > > be proud of our heritage, & learning to speak > konkanni, is the FIRST STEP. > > This is where you come in. I'm aure you can > convince GRAF( read Fausto) to > > conduct a crash course in konkanni speaking, at > Borivali.Adults too could > > join to brush up on their speech...A nominal fee > could be charged GRAF > > could introduce & increase sale of their konkanni > CDs / Cassettes / Books/ > > Mags.. Maybe a club could follow, with > book/magazines sharing > > THINK ABOUT IT...You could PULL IT OFF.IT'S A > WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR ALL. > > > > Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
Re: [Goanet]REMO FERNANDES IN KUWAIT.
Hi I am very happy that REMO FERNANDES is visiting Kuwait. We are basically from vagallim and siolim and we feel very proud when we see a REMO, a icon of (Siolim) GOA in the Gulf. I wish he would visit other parts of the Gulf to give all the Goans present here the personal touch of his music and great voice. I know for a fact that he is not interested to come to Saudi Arabia where we are based, however i wish he would come to bahrain ALL THE VERY BEST TO REMO. MAY GOD BLESS GOA ALWAYS AND ALL THE GOANS IN GOA AND ALL PART OF INDIA, MIDDLE EAST AND IN THE WORLD. Herman D'Souza Saudi Arabia --- "A. Veronica Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > REMO FERNANDES IN KUWAIT. > > One of the renowned Indian songsters Remo Fernandes > from Siolim Bardez Goa > will visit Kuwait to participate in the grand > Concert organized and > presented by IN-SAS i.e. Indian Society of > Aviation Staff. One of the > objectives of IN-SAS is to promote art and culture > and in view of this they > are organizing this Concert on 6th February 2004 at > Indian Arts Circle, > Funaitees starting at 06.30 pm. The Concert will > consist of variety of items > but main feature will be Remo and his troupe > consisting of 6 members and > devoting 90 minutes. Hence, audience can expect a > feast of entertainment > from Remo who will perform live with live music. > The audience will surely > consists of metropolitan crowd from different > segments of society. Remo is > expected to sing some of his best songs and render > best of his items to > satisfy the tastes of different people. This being > Remos first visit to > liberated Kuwait, earlier he came to Kuwait twice, > surely lot of attention > will be focused on his performance. Some of his > strong fans are eagerly > awaiting seeing Remo in action. > > Remo Fernandes is a pride of Goa. My last encounter > with him was at Sangeet > Samelan a year back at Margao where a sea of > humanity came just to see and > listen to his wonderful performance along with his > pure Goan musicians. His > item was scheduled originally at 9.00 on the second > and last day but due to > sudden delay it started at about 11.00 p.m. and went > beyond 1.00 early in > the morning and yet not a single soul left > consisting of thousands of > audience. He was at his forte on the Flute which he > plays superbly. His > greatness lies not only in being a great artiste > only but also being a great > lover of his land, language, culture and tradition > which magnetized his feet > to his ancestral village Siolim which is the biggest > constituency of Bardez. > > A few months back when he celebrated his golden > birth anniversary at Panjim > yet again a sea of humanity attended his show and > applauded him fabulously > and of course deservingly. A linguist par > excellence, Remo sings in > different languages and that too to the satisfaction > of all. His fans > include top personalities from different segments of > society. The most > staunch fan of his was the late Prime Minister of > India Rajiv Gandhi for > whom he even dedicated one of his beautiful songs > Hello Rajiv Gandhi. > > Coming from the musically conscious village of Goa, > Siolim that has got > unique distinction of producing some of the topmost > artistes of Goa such as > musicians, singers and dramatists, in Remos veins > runs the music, not only > Pop but also other types. His father Bernardo > Fernandes was the great > proponent and promoter of Goan Folk Songs such as > Mandos, Dulpods and > Dheknis. In fact soon after Portuguese rule ended > in Goa, Remos Father Mr. > Bernardo Fernandes was one of the main persons > instrumental in initiating > Mando Festivals in Goa at Panjim and since then till > today Mando Festival is > going strong thereby giving solid impetus to the > promotion of Goan Folklore. > In appreciation of this contribution, for Mando > Festival especial award is > instituted in the name of Remos father for best > Mando in the original > category. Remo Fernandes inherit abundant musical > talent from his father. > > On behalf of all the like minded Goans and also the > lovers of Remos musical > art, I welcome Remo Fernandes to Kuwait for 6th > February Show and wish him > all the success. I also wish the organizers all the > best and total success > in their endeavour in organizing such a mega show. > > Those interested in attending this show, kindly > contact the organizers as > early as possible so as not to miss the entry passes > at the last minute. > > A. Veronica Fernandes, > Kuwait. > >
Re: [Goanet]Christianity's Similarities with Islam
Hello Tariq I am a bit surprised how do you believe in Jesus Christ being yourself a muslim.. or am i wrong??? as i understand islam honours mohammed as the last prophet and jesus as one of the prophets. am i correct. please shed some light on this. reason is i myself being a roman catholic, i know many similiarities between islam, christianity and judaism, which are all connected religions. I respect all religions as they all believe in God, including hinduism, sikhism, etc. and they all teach good values of humanity. please clarify Herman D'Souza --- Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Gregory Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Brothers/sisters, > > > > There is only one God and definetly there is only > one > > truth and that truth is Christ Jesus, who was > existing > > at the time of creation (Jesus said I am the first > and > > the last "Alpha and Omega". > > > > One can say this only if he/she is not aware about > the > > truth (that is the Word of God - BIBLE). > > > > I pray that you will read the Bible which will set > you > > free, and one can have salvation ONLY THROUGH > JESUS > > who is there to come for the second time. > > I don't believe you. > > -Tariq > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Land to the Owner's Act
I still cannot understand how can a government issue this land to the tiller act. does that mean tomorrow they can also issue some other act to throw us out from our houses? was this act issued by the congress? due their mismanagement of certain rules and laws according to their whims and wishes congress has lost power. can anyone tell me how can we revert this land to the tiller law so we can get the land which rightfully belongs to us? --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More than a couple of decades ago the MGP government > in power decided to implement a draconian and > treachrous act called Land to the Tiller. In a > single > swipe many Goans lost their lands to the tillers. > This > was one of the several measures conducted by this > sectarian government in order to get votes. The > results were that the tillers became bhatcars. Later > it was believed that these lands were sold to > builders. Who are the tillers today? It is the > indian > migrants who come across the borders to Goa. Will > they > be the new bhatcars? > > Isn't it time that Goans get back their rightful > land? > Does any body know about the evacuee property issue? > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? > Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
