Re: [Goanet]Salmona Spring
Although I was born in Porvorim, I spent happy years in Saligao from 1930 to 1939, and many happy hours with my brother and our friends at the Salmona spring. We used to swing on the banyan tree roots from one side of the small "gully" to the other, and I remember that once my brother, eight years older than me, lost his grip and fell, but was not seriously hurt. My memories of the Salmona spring form the basis of passages describing the Tivolem spring on pages 218 and 219 of my novel, Tivolem. Also, the bridge on which the old men in Tivolem used to meet each evening is the bridge over the nullah near the Mae de Deus Church, which in my childhood served as a meeting place of the elders of Saligao. My wife and I were away in Australia when news of the encroachments on the Salmona spring broke on Goanet; I will gladly work with Miguel and anybody else who is interested to make sure that this historic spring is saved for posterity. Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, Ribeirovaddo, Porvorim -Original Message- From: Miguel Braganca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:10:24 +0530 Subject: [Goanet]Salmona Spring The good news for now is that the Pollution Control Board has directed that all the construction work near Salmona Spring at Saligao should be stopped. All the newspapers in Goa caried extensive reports and photos of the construction by one Harmalkar with all the permissions from the Revenue Collector and Panchayat although the land has been classified as a private forest in continuity with the afforestation programme of Saliga-Pilerne hill. Eternal vigil is the price of freedom. Indeed. Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]RE: [TheGoanInternationalWritersWorkshop] Goan International Writers Workshop
Dear Gilbert Lawrence and Armstrong Vaz, Rene Barreto has given you some details regarding the Goan International Writers Workshop, a forum in which he has been involved since its inception at a meeting called a couple of years ago or so, with myself as convenor and Rene as prime instigator. Ben Antao, Margaret Mascarenhas, and Manohar Shetty were among those present, and took an active part in the extended discussion. The group discussed the problems that Goan writers faced, wherever they were. Some faced isolation,since the community at large did not seem much interested; others felt the lack of peer support; still others needed professional guidance with matters of technique, or agent representation, or the matter of finding a publisher, and did not know where to turn. It was felt that one solution would be to put together a looseknit organization of Goan writers, that would function as a support group when called upon; any member who needed help with a manuscript could consult another member, or the group as a whole, and count on getting some advice. Hence, it would in effect be a Goan writers workshop, functioning at long distance; and since we were scattered over many nations, we called ourselves the Goan International Writers Workshop. But it seems as if we Goan writers are a pretty selfsufficient lot, anyway, since the group has received no calls for help, or at least none that have come to my notice. Individual members continue to give workshops for fellow Goan writers and others; I know that Margaret Mascarenhas has been active in this regard, and so have I. We have both received splendid cooperation from the Fundacao Oriente in Fontainhas, Panjim, under its inspired leader, Dr. Sergio Mascarenhas. Recently, on a visit to Australia, I offered to conduct free creative writing workshops in Sydney, where a large concentration of Goans can be found. Rene helped publicize the event; but apparently Goans in every major city in Australia, like Goans in every large city around the world, are a house divided. Two adults asked if I would work with them on nonfiction projects, and two children wanted to work on short stories. I gladly worked with all four of them. Why didn't more people come forward? That is anybody's guess. In contrast to the apathy towards writing exhibited by our fellow Goans, I received a warm welcome from several professional Australian writers and academics, who gladly set aside time to meet with me and discuss literary matters and creative writing techniques. [In Adelaide, my colleagues in MENSA squired us around the city and threw us a wine and dinner reception.] On the social side, I must declare that we received a fabulous welcome from Jean de Quadros and Gabriel de Figueiredo and their respective famiies in Melbourne, and from Albert and Florinda da Cruz in Perth. I sincerely believe that, within limits, all members of the Goan International Writers Workshop still stand ready to proffer help and guidance to writers who approach them. Let me make that clear: writers can expect free help and guidance; writers who expect professional services, such as detailed editing, should also be prepared to pay for them. Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Re: [Goanet]Thanking Bevinda
Dear Cecil, I think you are being unfairto Bevinda. Over in the US, on a very literary forum called SASIALIT (South Asian Literature), we too had an invididual who began discussions and followed up with virulent abuse. When thrown off the list by moderators, he came back under another guise. Many wanted to quit in disgust. Eventually I persuaded the others on the list to remain active and committed, but not to respond or even read any of his posts---just hit the delete button. Not getting any response, the man left. The formula would work here too. We know who these posters are. Use the delete button when their messages come online. Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro -Original Message- From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:17:43 +0530 Subject: [Goanet]Thanking Bevinda Bevinda Collaco wrote to Santosh Helekar: "Actually it is your fault for replying so faithfully to his posts. Ignore it. Let it die a natural death. Santosh Helekar responds: "Dear Bevinda, You are right. It is my fault. I am sorry for putting you through this. I will now let Mario Goveia continue his serial abuse of sundry folk on Goanet." - Dear Bevinda, I too agree with you and thank you for your sober advise. We should just sit back and allow people to spread hoaxes and alarms. We should look the other way when someone lies or insults and abuses others. In fact we should all become passive subscribers and just read the Goa News Bytes and forward jokes, recipes and chain letters at most. Cheers! Cecil
[Goanet]Thread: Abuse etc.
Dear Rebecca O'Leary, Please accept my thanks for your well-reasoned and cogent response. Although I am a Goan, and for most of my life have maintained close ties with the land of my birth, one of the main reasons I joined Goanet was to learn more about Goa and Goans---which was precisely the reason why you joined, too. I too have been put off by the abusive type of dialogue that too often breaks out in our midst, and have sometimes tried to douse the flames of the flame wars behind the scenes, with mixed success. Know that many of us will value the contribution you have just made, in highlighting the image we present to the world; know also that any future contributions you choose to make will be welcomed by those of us who prefer reasoned debate over invective. Very best regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Re: [Goanet]No apology required from Santosh
To all my fellow Goanetters, You and I are far less likely to be pricked by an infected needle left on a train seat than we are to be pricked by a verbal needle in a Goanet post. Somehow, many of us cannot resist inserting an insulting word into an apparently innocent message. For example, the recent extended debate on abuse is said to have brought some "worms" out of the woodwork! Rebecca O'Leary (no cousin or godchild of mine) got involved, and had some things to say that needed saying; I got involved as well. Neither Ms. O'Leary nor I are regular posters on Goanet, so the two of us must count ourselves among the "worms". Or is one to be considered more wormlike than the other? On a related matter: Private messages are meant to be private. I sent a private message to Santosh that suggested alternative ways of conducting a debate; he chose to make public the fact that I had communicated with him in private, but stated that I had reprimanded him. I hadn't, for the simple reason that I do not feel I have either the right or the authority to reprimand another human being. I had merely suggested another approach. And I did not suggest he apologize; I especially do not think any apology is an apology, if it is worded in a way that leads to further recrimination. The point that I am trying to make is that there should be civility in all our debates. In ALL of them, and in every part of each debate. I don't care who started the mudslinging---the person who has mud flung at him, and then flings mud back, also winds up having mud on his hands.
Re: [Goanet]Worms
Dear Cecil, Thanks for the clarification. Yours is an extraordinary talent, and it won't be long before you are a true shining light in Goan literature, and not just in Goan literature. All the more reason for you to be scrupulous (but delightfully undecorous) in observing the niceties of debate. I've been reading aloud your recent Konkani lesson no. 1 to friends and relatives. It's true comic material, and would be a smash hit if used in a tiatr. Ever thought of that? Warm rgards, Victor -Original Message- From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:29:57 +0530 Subject: [Goanet]Worms Dear Victor, It is always a pleasure to read your rare but relevant postings on GoaNet. I have often replied privately but have never got a response and thought of you as being rude. Only recently Margaret Mascarenhas informed me that your service provider, AOL, does not accept messages from Sancharnet. Just a couple of points I would like to clarify: - Victor: For example, the recent extended debate on abuse is said to have brought some "worms" out of the woodwork! Rebecca O'Leary (no cousin or godchild of mine) got involved, and had some things to say that needed saying; I got involved as well. Neither Ms. O'Leary nor I are regular posters on Goanet, so the two of us must count ourselves among the "worms". Or is one to be considered more wormlike than the other? Cecil: I do not know much about different species of worms but rest assured my characterization of lurkers as 'worms in the wood work' was nothing but an extension of Rebecca's description of herself being lured out of the 'woodwork'. No offense was intended. -- Victor: The point that I am trying to make is that there should be civility in all our debates. In ALL of them, and in every part of each debate. I don't care who started the mudslinging---the person who has mud flung at him, and then flings mud back, also winds up having mud on his hands. Cecil: I totally agree with you.
Re: [Goanet]Re: No apology required from Santosh
Dear Santosh, I hope you continue to debate issues with all your usual intellectual vigour; just avoid getting involved in the personal slurs and the name calling. Abuse is usually the hallmark of a weak case. Best regards, -Original Message- From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Goanet]Re: No apology required from Santosh --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a related matter: Private messages are meant to be private. Dear Victorbab, Thanks for speaking your mind, and expressing your displeasure with my behavior. I hope you will not mind if I take this as a public reprimand from you. I am sorry for revealing the fact that you had communicated with me in private. It will not happen again. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]When 'Fort Stikine' blew up in Bombay
Fred, there were actually two explosions that day. The fire started when a crew member or dockworker carelessly tossed a cigarette away; the Bombay Fire Brigade rushed an engine to the scene, and when the first explosion explosion occurred, the engine was destroyed and the firemen died. The Fire Brigade then rushed in the remainder of its equipment, all of which was lost, with the entire firefighting force, when the ship blew up massively the second time. I was 18 years old at the time, and busy tutoring two high school students in a mansion on Worli hill, far from the scene of the disaster. The three of us, sitting at a table by a window, suddenly found the wall of the building bulging towards us; almost simultaneously we heard the roar of the second explosion. A very heavy cloud of smoke had risen up from Mazagon Docks and was hanging over that area; a small plane flying around the cloud gave rise to rumours that the Japanese were bombing the city. I left right away for my family flat in Byculla on Spence Road, just off Victoria Garden Road and at the foot of Mazagon Bridge. Thousands of people were streaming north along VG Road, carrying bundles on their heads, the remnants of their possessions. The adults carried babies in their arms, while older children trudged alongside. Later that afternoon we heard the tinkling of a bell and a tiny fire engine drove in all the way from Pune! The fire blazed for several days and nights, and at night we could hear the crackling of the flames, which were raging unchecked and leaping from building to building. Eventually the army demolished entire rows of buildings to create a kind of fire break that the flames could not leap across. Our family had had a black family retainer, Cachucha, whom we had lost track of for years, but she established contact during those difficult days. Fortunately she had not been affected, but had become concerned about our safety. Best regards, Victor -Original Message- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:53:42 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Goanet]When 'Fort Stikine' blew up in Bombay This week marked the 61st anniversary of the 1944 dockyard blasts, which was caused by a massive fire and explosion on board the British freighter Fort Stikine. The vessel was moored at the Bombay docks, was carring 1300 tonnes of TNT at the time of the blast, and caused a destruction of a total of 27 ships and killed an estimated one thousand people, according to the Indian Express! This was during World War II. Was wondering if any Goans in Mumbai of that time recall the incident, or their parents talking about it... It must have been quite a tragedy; Naresh Fernandes and Jerry Pinto's co-edited book on Mumbai/Bombay have an essay on this theme. FN _ _/ \ Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/ \ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
Re: [Goanet]The Wisdom of Crowds
-Original Message- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Any suggestions on how to increasing participation levels among the 'silent Goanetter'? Thanks in advance for any great ideas. FN In recent discussions with a wide range of people in Goa, I found out that many of them have come to regard Goanet as a kind of whirlpoor---step into it and you are inevitably sucked into an argument that begins reasonably enough but soon ends in a mudslinging match. I would therefore urge tighter monitoring; encourage the free expression of ideas, but stop---immediately---any personal attack or slur, even if it seems slight. It is the slight slurs and innuendos that lead to stronger insults; why do they creep into our emails at all? Do we gain at all in stature by putting someone else down? Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, Porvorim \/
Re: [Goanet]What FN Souza had to say...
We could get working on it, Fred. But if we could identify the exact house near the crossroads where he lived as a child, why not put a plaque on that house first? He lived at the crossroads of what was once the main road of the village, where it intersected the road that went from Mapusa to Betim. We lived in the second house across the intersection, facing the fields; it was known as "Filpa Tio's." Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, Porvorim and New York -Original Message- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:07:19 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Goanet]What FN Souza had to say... Among my treasured memories and papers collected (besides my collection of Goa-related books) this note below would surely be one of the most treasured. It was written, in his usual iconoclast style, by Francis Newton maybe a couple of months or so before his death and is scribbled in black pen on a cheap 200-page school notebook which one was taking notes on. It says (punctuations and errors as in the original): In Goa, 27 January 02, Ah Goa, the land of my birth. Saligao next door from where I am writing this at the Marinha Dourada is the village I was born & Frederick Noronah recalls all the old friends & places, some dead, many still around ready to kick the bucket if they can find one! I'm lucky to be a Goan. When I get annoyed with a Goan I call him a goanese! It's great to be in Goa -- Francis Newton Souza In the intervening three years, haven't been able to convince anybody about the need to name even a road in Goa after this amazing person. FN _ _/ \ Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/ \ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ -
Re: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics & women priests
Here we are again, fellow Goanetters, not discussing issues that raised so much heat and dust in the past, and once again some of us are throwing dirt at the others. "You are this" and "You are that" and who knows what else. When will some of us ever stop throwing stones at other people? Fred Noronha wants to know why some of us don't contribute to this forum. I have a different question: Why don't some of us, who cannot argue reasonably and civilly, just shut up? Regards to one and all, even the stonethrowiers--- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, Porvorim and New York -Original Message- From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics & women priests --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: George, You, too, need to relax and let me find out the official reasons, if any, before continuing this drumbeat of accusations. Do not assume because you do not know the "official reasons" that others like me are ignorant about this topic and are simply making accusations. All the fancy latin phrases and "doctrinal & theological" reasons are not convincing. But do not let me stop you from your own education in these matters. Since when did you become such an expert on Catholic doctrine and practice that you "know" everything with such certainty? As I have mentioned before, I know very little, I am an expert on nothing, and have never claimed to know everything (or anything) with certainty. I am happy to be corrected with facts, logical arguments and hope to learn something. Eventually I hope to impress my neighbor's dog as no one else is impressed. It should not be too difficult as the dog does not seem to know what is going on most of the time and I think I can fool it. If your mind is closed, that is quite another matter. Just this morning I tried to open my mind but it started to rain and I did not want it to get wet. I will try again tomorrow but the weather people have predicted sunshine. However, like the Vatican higher-ups, they have been known to be wrong before. Regards, George
Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!
Dear Alfred, Perhaps you meant to say that Dr. Willy might have many faults, but casteism is definitely NOT one of them? Regards, Victor Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Joe Vaz" >Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org >To: GOANET@GOANET.ORG >Subject: Re: [Goanet]A certain Dr Willy! >Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:09:10 + > >Dr. Willy may be a skilled surgeon; but if he had even a fraction of the >skills of a prolific politician he would have done Goa proud. His stint as >a politician has done more damage to the state than good. > >Joe Vaz I won't extol Willie's better qualities besides asserting that he has many fine ones. The man certainly has faults; quite a few, but casteism is definitely one of them. Those who so assevere would do well to elaborate, with recorded responsible data, Willie's negative caste-bias, -attitudes and -acts. Would you please oblige, Dr Cornel da Costa. The man's honour has been sullied and the charges levelled against him should be either substantiated or expunged. He is entitled to satisfaction. Alfred de Tavares, 0046 8 7596214 Stockholm, 2005-06-09
Re: [Goanet]Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ?
But since I gather from previous emails that any member can vote any number of times, what will the polls really establish? Victor -Original Message- From: Felicio Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:01:18 +0800 Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ? Maybe Goanetters should have a system of voting for the best-post-of-the-week and the best-newcomer-post. Of course, admin team members and those compiling the figures stand immediately disqualified ;-) FN Dear FN, I am ready to vote for the worse-post-of-the-week. Felicio, Salmiya-Kuwait -- India.com free e-mail - www.india.com. Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for mail storage, POP3, e-mail forwarding, and ads-free mailboxes!
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goanet Reader: Goa's writers are multicultural by inheritance -- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Thanks, George, you're not doing too badly yourself! AND you have a lifetime ahead of you! Warm regards, Victor -Original Message- From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:31:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Goanet] Re: Goanet Reader: Goa's writers are multicultural by inheritance -- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro Very nice Victor. A lifetime of good work. Keep it up. Regards, George --- Goanet Reader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BrieFNcounters: GOA'S WRITERS ARE MULTICULTURAL BY INHERITANCE Given his energy levels and zest for life, you wouldn't guess Victor Rangel-Ribeiro is an octogenarian. If he's not mentoring young writers and egging them on, he's spending long hours perfecting sheaves of manuscript pages or taking a keen interest in his love of music.
Re: [Goanet] Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Dear Xavier, Lea and I feel as enriched by our circle of friends as you may feel by our friendship. In one way or another, all of us make our own distinctive contribution to society and to humanity at large; it so happens that I've had more opportunities than most, and have been fortunate enough to have been able to take advantage of them. My principal at St. Xavier's, Fr. Coyne, did not manage to make me a Jesuit; but he did impress on me the importance of giving back. Warm personal regards, Victor (and Lea, of course) -Original Message- From: Xavier Cota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Goanet] Victor Rangel-Ribeiro Dear Victor, Just a brief word of appreciation for the renaissance man that you are. There are newer and newer facets about you that keep coming out. It's a pleasure knowing you and Lea. Regards Xavier
Re: [Goanet] MYFIRSTJOB: Walter Saldanha
Fred, Where is Walter now, and how can I get in touch with him? I remember him well, he was still with J. Walter Thompson when I became Copy Chief. Very bright, very dynamic. Regards, Victor
Re: [Goanet] Paes-Navratilova win easy
Mr/Ms V. Gadgil, who objects to news of Leander Paes' activities, obviously is unaware that Leander Paes is a Goan playing world-class tennis, and as such his successes are of intense interest to Goans such as myself. Best regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Re: [Goanet] Nonsense and more!
Off and on, I have been a journalist for most of my life, in India and here in the USA; have worked for just about every newspaper worth the name in Mumbai, and for the New York Times in New York. In a career that now spans 56 years, it stands to reason that I have come across many journalists whom I learned to respect and admire. Fred Noronha is one of them. He is articulate in the way he writes, generous and sharing with his colleagues, brilliant in the reach of his mind. Too bad that some of the time he would normally have devoted to his constructive work has lately been pre-empted by individuals who have been sniping at him. Fred will keep growing in stature over the years, and will be remembered long after his would-be detractors are forgotten. I salute you, Fred, as countless others do. Victor Rangel-Ribeiro ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gilmen or Gilbert...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Teotonio had raised a question about two banyan trees on the Sinquerim plateau, to which he had seen a reference in a 16th century Portuguese roteiro. Gilbert referred him to Chart no. 2022. I have twice tried to contact Gilbert for a clarification, and each time Mailer-Daemon has returned the email as undeliverable stating that [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been disabled or discontinued. Yet his posts continue to appear on goanet. How come? I am forwarding to you the question I had posed him. Can you throw some light on this? The banyan trees are still standing! Regards, Victor Dear Gilbert, I was intrigued by your response to Teotonio's query about the banyan trees on Sinquerim plateau. You refer to Chart No. 2022. "Approaches to Marmagao and Panaji, has a cluster of 3 banyan trees" What navigational chart is this? The reference to Marmagao tells me that this is an Indian chart, and the reference to Panaji tells me that it must be fairly recent. Is that possible? Can you please clarify? On the other hand, it cannot be recent because while there may have been a cluster of three banyan trees on that hill some centuries ago, today there are only two. I have a poem about them I would appreciate an early reply from you, because I am editing a book on Goa, and the information you supply will be useful. I will credit you as the source, naturally. Where do you live, by the way? I'm in Jamaica, New York. Are you anywhere nearby? Thanks, and best regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [goa-research-net] [Goanet]Re: Cultural Symbols of Goa[Scanned]
To my mind, we need a joint symbol of unity and fellowship and understanding: the cross and the tulsi-vrindavan side by side. Regards, Victor ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Gummot ... Madhiem
In a message dated 3/31/2004 8:52:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My friends here in the USA were delighted to see such a > unique percussion > instrument. AFAIK, it's the only one in N.America :-P Sorry, Daniel! My wife and I and our two children escorted a gummot by air to the United States in 1971, where it has been ever since. It lives happily in New York. Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Victor Rangel-Ribeiro & Gummot
Thanks, Dan, we'd like that too. Incidentally, we have been in Goa since January; during the cold spell, pipes burst in our New York home, part of a ceiling fell on our grand piano smashing it, but the gumot that was on the piano was untouched. Also two gurguretts in the kitchen, though falling plaster smashed even the oven and the range. We'll be back in mid-April, but the house won't be in fit shape to live in for some months. Regards, Victor ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Thank You Silviano but we Goans are a pitiful lot - Never mind the BIG Talk
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dr. J. Colaco assumes that other Goan writers in Canada and elsewhere have not congratulated Ben Antao, because they have not posted messages to this effect on Goanet. I very humbly suggest that such personal messages of congratulation need not be posted on Goanet. By presuming to make that a requirement, a number of my peers have been unjustly maligned. Ben Antao knows who wrote to him and who didn't. Nobody else is owed an explanation. Best regards, Victor
Re: [Goanet]re: Goan Books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dr. Colaco's message that we all buy more books by Goan authors began with an attack on Goan authors who did not publicly congratulate Ben Antao on Goanet. I objected to it when he first made that attack and I object to it now. Private messages---including private messages of congratulation---do not belong on Goanet. Personal attacks also do not belong on this forum. Some writers were attacked by name, in that same message that urged us to buy more books. I found that attack to be equally objectionable. My focus was on those parts of Dr. Colaco's message that I felt crossed the line. My focus was not on the messenger. I do not know Dr. Colaco, and have no animosity whatever towards him. Regards, Victor
