[Goanet]Konkani -independent language, not a dialect

2005-04-17 Thread carlos6143
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=041628Konkani 
independent language, not a dialect, says Fr Naik
NT News Service

Mapusa April 15: There is a belief that a language that is spoken more 
than it is written is a dialect and that which has more written 
literature is a language. That belief is a myth and not a fact. This 
was stated by the director of the Thomas Stephens Konkani Kendra 
(TSKK), Fr Pratap Naik at the history hour at the Xavier Centre for 
Historical Research, Porvorim today. The history hour was dealing with 
the topic, ?Konkani: myths and facts.?

Fr Naik said there is a belief that just because there is a relatively 
low volume of written Konkani literature though it is commonly spoken, 
it is a dialect of some other language and not a language itself. This 
belief is a myth.

Fr Naik cited the example of the Tullu language of Karnataka and said 
that though there is little written literature in Tullu, it is an 
independent language and not a dialect of any other language. He also 
demolished the myth that just because there is no separate script for 
Konkani, it is not an independent language stating that even Sanskrit 
does not have its own original script. Another myth that was broken by 
Fr Naik was the belief that Konkani is a daughter of Sanskrit. Stating 
that this is not true, he said it is difficult to say which is language 
and which is a dialect.

There is yet another belief that prior to the arrival of the Portuguese 
there was a highly developed Konkani literature, which was destroyed by 
them. Fr Naik said this too is untrue. He said most of the inscriptions 
of the time prior to the Portuguese arrival were written in Persian, 
Sanskrit or Marathi.

Fr Naik said he had found not a single leaf in Konkani dating back to 
those days. ?If the Portuguese had indeed destroyed all Konkani 
manuscripts in the Old Conquests, then why was Konkani literature not 
found in the New Conquests?? he asked.

Fearing conversions, Fr Naik stated that our forefathers from the Old 
Conquests had moved heavy deities and heavy gold artefacts from the Old 
Conquests to the New Conquest areas. ?If they could move all those 
heavy articles, why did they not move relatively lighter manuscripts of 
Konkani literature? It is because not much written Konkani literature 
existed then,?he added.

Another myth demolished by Fr Naik was that in Goa, Konkani is taught 
in most schools. Handing out copies of statistic (as on September 30, 
2003) gleaned from the Directorate of Education, Fr Naik stated that 
out of a total of 966 government primary schools in Goa, 918 offered 
Marathi as the medium of instruction and only 79 offered Konkani as the 
medium of instruction.--
Regards,
Carlos



[Goanet]Konkani - independent language, not a dialect

2005-04-18 Thread Cecil Pinto
Navhind Times report:
>Another myth that was broken by Fr Naik was the
>belief that Konkani is a daughter of Sanskrit.
Santosh Helekar wrote:
It would be interesting to know what exactly is meant
by the above statement. I thought Konkani was derived
from one of the Prakrits (early spoken dialects of
Sanskrit) and Apabhramsas (regional dialects) in the
10th century A.D.

Dear Santosh,
I was one of the many present last Friday at XCHR for Dr. Pratap Naik's 
controversial presentation on 'Myths regarding Konkani'.

Dr. Naik when asked the very same question by an agitated, but obviously 
very knowledgeable, member of the audience, gave a very technical 
explanation of his assertion. From what little I understood, to be called a 
'daughter' of Sanskrit a language has to fulfill certain criteria of 
Grammar and Vocabulary which Konkani does not fulfill. So from a pure 
linguist's point of view Konkani cannot be considered a 'daughter' of 
Sanskrit. A 'granddaughter' or 'grand niece' maybe but these are not terms 
used by linguists.

Of course I cannot do full justice to Dr. Naik's very erudite and lengthy 
answer so it would be best you contact him directly for an explanation.

But I would like to state that it was a very interesting presentation and 
the Question-Answer session that followed was quite heated, as I am sure 
will be the debates that will follow on the Goan Internet Forums. What we 
are forgetting is that Fr. Naik made it very clear that he was speaking 
from that particular podium purely as a linguist and not as a historian nor 
as a language activist. The emotional responses from the audience were more 
activist in nature.

What Dr. Naik seemed to be trying to get across is that we are clouding 
Konkani with myths to give it some 'superior' appearance. If we just accept 
the facts we can have a more rational understanding of our mother tongue. 
That does not mean we love Konkani any less.

Cecil
P.S.
I also suspect that Dr. Naik was purposely very hard hitting in his myths 
so as to intentionally provoke debate, which is always good. After the dust 
settles a better understanding of our language might emerge.





Re: [Goanet] Konkani -independent language, not a dialect

2005-04-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
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>
>http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php
>part=news&Story_ID=041628Konkani
>
>Another myth that was broken by Fr Naik was the
>belief that Konkani is a daughter of Sanskrit.
>

It would be interesting to know what exactly is meant
by the above statement. I thought Konkani was derived
from one of the Prakrits (early spoken dialects of
Sanskrit) and Apabhramsas (regional dialects) in the
10th century A.D.

Cheers,

Santosh