Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
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> Hi Santosh,
> Once again we need to talk the same language.  I
> used YOUR definition and you changed it on me. Here
> is YOUR definition:
> 

Sorry, Gilbert. That is simply not true. I think I
have made myself amply clear. So I will stop this
thread with you from my end. You can carry on if you
like.

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-05-01 Thread gilbertlaw
Hi Santosh,
Once again we need to talk the same language.  I used YOUR definition and you 
changed it on me. Here is YOUR definition:

Santosh Helekar: 
A Fundamentalist Catholic, on the other hand, would follow all commandments and 
doctrines in letter and spirit without asking any questions. 

GL comments:
Following the the doctrine in spirit "means actions" . Otherwise one is 
following the doctrine only in letter ?perhaps like the fanatics.
Regards

Santosh
I maintain that the person I describe is a fundamentalist Catholic. If you are 
claiming that a person becomes a saint simply by virtue of his/her beliefs then 
I disagree completely with such a claim.  From an objective standpoint one can 
only be regarded as a saint based on one's actions, not beliefs. One is a saint 
only if one devotes one's life to the good of humanity.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>The person you describe below is not a fundamentalist Catholic. He/She is a 
>true practicing Catholic like Mother Teresa. The person is a Saint! 
>




Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-04-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>The person you describe below is not a fundamentalist
>Catholic. He/She is a true practicing Catholic like
>Mother Teresa. The person is a Saint! 
> 

Gilbert,

I maintain that the person I describe is a
fundamentalist Catholic. If you are claiming that a
person becomes a saint simply by virtue of his/her
beliefs then I disagree completely with such a claim.
>From an objective standpoint one can only be regarded
as a saint based on one's actions, not beliefs. One is
a saint only if one devotes one's life to the good of
humanity.

A fundamentalist Catholic can be regarded as a saint
if and only if such a person acts selectively on those
beliefs that contribute to the greater good, such as
helping the poorest of the poor, as Mother Theresa
did. If, on the other hand, Mother Theresa's mission
were only to prevent the use of artificial birth
control, including the use of condoms by HIV/AIDS
patients, then she would not have been regarded as a
saint from the humanitarian perspective.

A cafeteria Catholic who picks and chooses only the
good beliefs of Christianity, and dedicates his life
to putting them into action, can also be regarded as a
saint from an objective humanitarian perspective.

Cheers,

Santosh






[Goanet]Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-04-30 Thread gilbertlaw
GL:
We need to get our semantics on the same wave length. Not suprising for cyber 
Goa. 

The person you describe below is not a fundamentalist Catholic. He/She is a 
true practicing Catholic like Mother Teresa. The person is a Saint!  
Regards.

Santosh Helekar 
A Fundamentalist Catholic, on the other hand, would follow all commandments and 
doctrines in letter and spirit without asking any questions. 


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> To Santosh: A fanatic / fundamentalist in my view may be going against the 
> second commandment of Jesus (the first commandment was from Moses) which
> is:  Love your neighbor as thyself.
>




Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria - a brief response to Gilbert

2005-04-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> To Santosh: A fanatic / fundamentalist in my view
> may be going against the second commandment of 
> Jesus (the first commandment was from Moses) which
> is:  Love your neighbor as thyself.
> 

Gilbert,

I think you are wrong about that. Ironically, the
person you describe would be a Cafeteria Catholic.
Remember that a Cafeteria Catholic is one who picks
and chooses which doctrines and commandments to
follow, and which to ignore. A Fundamentalist
Catholic, on the other hand, would follow all
commandments and doctrines in letter and spirit
without asking any questions. 

Cheers,

Santosh