Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts
You are right, Alfred, I did forget to mention Anjediva. That was in effect the first ever fort built by the Portuguese in the whole east. It was only after its construction, in 1505, that Dom Francisco de Almeida took the title of Viceroy of India which had been bestowed upon him by the King of Portugal. But that fort was made of wood and had to be dismantled soon after. At a later date a new fort was built, having even a chapel - predecessor of the present Church of Nossa Senhora das Brotas (Our Lady of Springs - Zhorinchi Saibinn). - But alas! the island (with its fort and all) is now out of bounds for civilians, as it is in the hands of the Indian Navy, included in its Sea Bird project. Jorge - Original Message - From: Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts Jorge, haven't you forgotten Anjediva. I think that was the very first bastion erected by the Portuguese in that region of Malabar. The Rachol fortifications played an important role in the Christianization of South Goa. The village must be a veritable mine of archaological goodies. Alfred From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:03:12 +0200 Some other forts that I can remember: Corjuem, on the island of the same name, belonging to Aldona village Betul (a very small fort) Cabo de Rama, in Canacona taluka Alorna (or Halarn) fort in Pernem taluka Nanuz (or remnants of it) in Satari taluka Long walls and the Viceroys' Arch which belonged to the fort surrounding Old Goa The arch which was part of the Rachol fort. There are remnants of a fort also at Dona Paula. And there used to be a small fort, called Gaspar Dias fort, in the locality which itself used to be known as Gaspar Dias and is now called Miramar, between Panjim and Caranzalem. Jorge - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: [Goanet]Goa's Forts corrected.. This is not a game pl. === Can any one help?? Just want to know the names of all Forts in Goa including its location. No matter how small or big, whether just a wall remains etc (it can be even just outside Goa) You just name it (if u know, with location) and I will do the rest. Following Forts I have been so far: Fort Aguada (light House) Sinquerim (Taj) Chapora (vagator) Reis Magos (opp Inox) Tirakol Pl add on.. Upon reading news item on Navhind Times on 15th May 2005, we headed for chandor only to find no Fort there. (it was said it is located near the ancient 11th century Kandamba Shiva Temple) there, we ask a house of 3 people, some youth at the road junction next to the temple site, and a shop none of them were aware of the said fort, Knocked at the doors of two old portuguese houses but no answer, we came home disapointed. I am sure there is one but the locals are not aware of it. They even said the Ruins of Shiva Temple is the same as Fort. I wish the writer in the NT gave his contact details etc . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miramar
[Goanet]Goa's forts (website)
Dear Joe, there are several forts in Goa, some from the pre-Portuguese period then renovated/reconstructed by the Portuguese, and some from the Portuguese period. And some in the post-Portuguese period, if we consider Project Sea Bird at Karwar, occupying the Goan territory of Anjediv Island, or Indian Navy's presence in Dabolim! Curiously, the experience you narrate regarding a supposed fort in Chandor happened to me also. If you follow the Goa Tourism Department Map there is not only a fort in Chandor (inexistant, as you found out) as well as in Nanuz, few km South of Valpoy, Sattari's capital. I went there in 1999. Only after querying for over two hours with local villagers, some took us through dense vegetation up to a hill. There I found only a pillar with an inscription saying that there had been a fort there. Villagers told me there used to be a silver cross on the pillar, but taken back to Portugal. Later I found out that the same fort of Nanuz had been destroyed by the Portuguese themselves, in 1896 (I am not sure), to prevent it from serving as a hideout for local rebellions which were frequent in this region by the end of the 19th century. This just to show the ridiculous fact of Goa Tourims Department Map's (and most other tourist maps) showing a fort that does not exist for over a century. Please see the list of Goan forts (with images and brief history) I put up at Supergoa.com: http://www.supergoa.com/pt/fortes/f_intro.asp Regards, Constantino * Goa @ http://www.supergoa.com/ _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts
Jorge, haven't you forgotten Anjediva. I think that was the very first bastion erected by the Portuguese in that region of Malabar. The Rachol fortifications played an important role in the Christianization of South Goa. The village must be a veritable mine of archaological goodies. Alfred From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:03:12 +0200 Some other forts that I can remember: Corjuem, on the island of the same name, belonging to Aldona village Betul (a very small fort) Cabo de Rama, in Canacona taluka Alorna (or Halarn) fort in Pernem taluka Nanuz (or remnants of it) in Satari taluka Long walls and the Viceroys' Arch which belonged to the fort surrounding Old Goa The arch which was part of the Rachol fort. There are remnants of a fort also at Dona Paula. And there used to be a small fort, called Gaspar Dias fort, in the locality which itself used to be known as Gaspar Dias and is now called Miramar, between Panjim and Caranzalem. Jorge - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: [Goanet]Goa's Forts corrected.. This is not a game pl. === Can any one help?? Just want to know the names of all Forts in Goa including its location. No matter how small or big, whether just a wall remains etc (it can be even just outside Goa) You just name it (if u know, with location) and I will do the rest. Following Forts I have been so far: Fort Aguada (light House) Sinquerim (Taj) Chapora (vagator) Reis Magos (opp Inox) Tirakol Pl add on.. Upon reading news item on Navhind Times on 15th May 2005, we headed for chandor only to find no Fort there. (it was said it is located near the ancient 11th century Kandamba Shiva Temple) there, we ask a house of 3 people, some youth at the road junction next to the temple site, and a shop none of them were aware of the said fort, Knocked at the doors of two old portuguese houses but no answer, we came home disapointed. I am sure there is one but the locals are not aware of it. They even said the Ruins of Shiva Temple is the same as Fort. I wish the writer in the NT gave his contact details etc . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miramar _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Goa's Forts
Some other forts that I can remember: Corjuem, on the island of the same name, belonging to Aldona village Betul (a very small fort) Cabo de Rama, in Canacona taluka Alorna (or Halarn) fort in Pernem taluka Nanuz (or remnants of it) in Satari taluka Long walls and the Viceroys' Arch which belonged to the fort surrounding Old Goa The arch which was part of the Rachol fort. There are remnants of a fort also at Dona Paula. And there used to be a small fort, called Gaspar Dias fort, in the locality which itself used to be known as Gaspar Dias and is now called Miramar, between Panjim and Caranzalem. Jorge - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: [Goanet]Goa's Forts corrected.. This is not a game pl. === Can any one help?? Just want to know the names of all Forts in Goa including its location. No matter how small or big, whether just a wall remains etc (it can be even just outside Goa) You just name it (if u know, with location) and I will do the rest. Following Forts I have been so far: Fort Aguada (light House) Sinquerim (Taj) Chapora (vagator) Reis Magos (opp Inox) Tirakol Pl add on.. Upon reading news item on Navhind Times on 15th May 2005, we headed for chandor only to find no Fort there. (it was said it is located near the ancient 11th century Kandamba Shiva Temple) there, we ask a house of 3 people, some youth at the road junction next to the temple site, and a shop none of them were aware of the said fort, Knocked at the doors of two old portuguese houses but no answer, we came home disapointed. I am sure there is one but the locals are not aware of it. They even said the Ruins of Shiva Temple is the same as Fort. I wish the writer in the NT gave his contact details etc . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miramar
RE: [Goanet]Goa's Forts
There is also Cabo de Rama. South Goa.. After crossing river Sal en route to Cavelossim... (I think it's about right...) The view atop is just fascinating... Remember that there is no rest house over here although there are a few 'ghaddos' the will offer you light refreshment... Cheers, Allwyn From Miramar as well... -Original Message- From: JoeGoaUk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2005 10:51 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Goa's Forts corrected.. This is not a game pl. === Can any one help?? Just want to know the names of all Forts in Goa including its location. No matter how small or big, whether just a wall remains etc (it can be even just outside Goa) You just name it (if u know, with location) and I will do the rest. Following Forts I have been so far: Fort Aguada (light House) Sinquerim (Taj) Chapora (vagator) Reis Magos (opp Inox) Tirakol Pl add on.. Upon reading news item on Navhind Times on 15th May 2005, we headed for chandor only to find no Fort there. (it was said it is located near the ancient 11th century Kandamba Shiva Temple) there, we ask a house of 3 people, some youth at the road junction next to the temple site, and a shop none of them were aware of the said fort, Knocked at the doors of two old portuguese houses but no answer, we came home disapointed. I am sure there is one but the locals are not aware of it. They even said the Ruins of Shiva Temple is the same as Fort. I wish the writer in the NT gave his contact details etc . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miramar
[Goanet]Goa's Forts
corrected.. This is not a game pl. === Can any one help?? Just want to know the names of all Forts in Goa including its location. No matter how small or big, whether just a wall remains etc (it can be even just outside Goa) You just name it (if u know, with location) and I will do the rest. Following Forts I have been so far: Fort Aguada (light House) Sinquerim (Taj) Chapora (vagator) Reis Magos (opp Inox) Tirakol Pl add on.. Upon reading news item on Navhind Times on 15th May 2005, we headed for chandor only to find no Fort there. (it was said it is located near the ancient 11th century Kandamba Shiva Temple) there, we ask a house of 3 people, some youth at the road junction next to the temple site, and a shop none of them were aware of the said fort, Knocked at the doors of two old portuguese houses but no answer, we came home disapointed. I am sure there is one but the locals are not aware of it. They even said the Ruins of Shiva Temple is the same as Fort. I wish the writer in the NT gave his contact details etc . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miramar for NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
