[Goanet]Goa's Fun image; Samir's 2nd Story
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Samir, Your posting[ and changing of the subjet line] is NOT FUNNY. The thread is "Goa's Fun image:Samir's Story" Your postings are DISGRACEFUL, the opposite of your email ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] . My wife is as FAIR as your reference to her in this context is UNFAIR. ... TOP POSTS AS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY ADMIN TEAM. > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:14:02 +0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Goanet]Response to Miguel > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Miguel: > You seem to still have the itch of not keeping quiet. > > 1) First of all, you owe an apology on Goanet for your bigoted comments about > the dark people. You are not going to get away with it. It is comments like > yours that perpetuate the myth that fair is good, and dark is bad. How fair > are you? ***How fair is your wife and family? > > Let us deal with this and get it out of the way before we deal with other issues. > > regards, > Samir > >My dear Samir, > > An District and Sessions Court Judge has denied bail to Altaf Sayyad of > Gogolunder Section 8[2] of the GOA CHILDRENS ACT,2003 read with IPC Section > 376 and 342. He has been jailed based on prima facie evidence of rape > produced by the Public Prosecutor Sarojini Sardinha. Question of consensual > sex does not arise as the girl is a minor. It is mandatory rape. For details > read Goamntak Times page 1,Col.7 dated 20 Nov.[www.gomantaktimes.com]. The > girl and her mother have stood their ground. > > What is your evidence against the 5-Star hotel and the 100 girls alleged by > YOU [ You are unable to upline your sources...perhaps because there are > none;-( .] to have been 'procured' or 'supplied' ? In fact, WHAT is your > case? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Samir Kelekar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Damn it , who is scandalizing whom here? > > Josebab, can you see a victim here? I can't.> > > Heck, Joel needs to apologize for this* scandal-mongering;* and that too > on the Internet.> > > regards, > > Samir > > From Joel's news clip of two days back: > > POLITICIANS BACKING RAPE ACCUSED, ALLEGES VICTIM: In another murky turn to > > the almost forgotten murky Margao rape case, the 17-year-old rage victim > and her mother are facing continuous threat from local goons to "settle" the > case and not press charges. They have alleged that some local politicians > are supporting the accused Altaf Sayyed, who has earlier been arrested for > similar and related crimes. (GT) > > ... > There is no point scurrying for every 'cover' that you see. The cover is > just a mirage. > > First you were willing to give details to Rajan Narayan,then to Fredrick > Noronhha. First you digress to Calangute beach, now to Margao. * > scandal-mongering;* is what you have been doing right from the point you > started this thread,Samir. APOLOGISE [ on Goanet, where you posted the > carnard about 100 Goan girls] if you are a man. Hold your peace if you are a > wimp. . Samir, you are fair SKINNED and can have no offence about being called DARK. If there is any dark complexioned person who was offended by my spoof on a matrimonial [not on dark persons], let them speak up. No one has done so far. The spoof was not offensive at all. I will apologise ,if the need arises. I am not a Samir. OFFENSE is not always the best form of defence,specially when one uses offensive postings to defend the indefensible.. That is like wearing a condom to prevent getting HIV-AIDS ..the second time! You have my sympathy. Pity ,may be a better word for that. Viva Goa. Miguel > > Viva Goa. > Miguel
[Goanet]Goa's Fun Image.....Samir's 2nd STORY
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## THIS IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE STORY. Perhaps Samir even knows the name of the friend whom he recommended to take a holiday in Goa all by his lonely self. If this man[ Samir uses the terms 'he' and 'himself' to refer to his 'friend', lest Cecil should dispute the 'gender' of the friend later]. In faxct , it is quite common talk on the beach. Surprising he did not offer young boys or 'unnatural sex' [ Lewinsky or otherwise] or 'foreign maal'. After the Tehelka expose on paedophilia in Goa,arrests of pimps and prostitutes in Baina and Calangute, this is no longer news.In fact, one can come across such touts at Yeshwantpur, Anandrao Circle, Tank Bund Road, Residency Road, Shivajinagar, PCTC, Munireddypalya, Chickpet, Tharugpet, K.R.Market, J.C.Road, K.H. Road, Lal baugh and other places in Bangalore if Samir wants to do some investigations in his town of residence, Bangalore. I can take him or his friend on a round when I am in Bangalore next. No point dreaming about sex in Goa while one is a bachelor in Bangalore. Like the Baina girls of yore, they also come on 'tours' of service for a long week-end or upto six days at a stretch. As the say, seven days make the whole weak. The only unlikely offer from such a tout is"> Tout: To kya chicken, mutton, fish ?" Touts normally do not have a 'parcel' service for food[ the English word]. Hindi is a common language used for domestic tourists by the Lamanis on the beach. They do speak Kannada or Telegu or Marathi when needed. English is reserved for the foreigners. Some even speak French and Spanish. I have heard Lamani children speak at Calangute and at Ingo's SNB. ... > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommended Goa to a friend of mine recently. > He visited Calangute, all by himself. > A tout approached him, and the conversation went thus:> > Tout: Saab, kya beer, drinks mangta hai? > My friend: No I dont drink. > Tout: To kya chicken, mutton, fish ? > My friend: No, I am a vegetarian. > Tout: To kya ladki mangta hai? > My friend: No. > Tout: Tumko drinks nahi mangta hai, chicken, fish nahin mangta hai, ladki > nahim mangta hi, to tum Goa aaya kyon?> > My friend meanwhile had a walkman with him which was playing songs. > The tout asked to have a look at it, and listened to the songs. > They were some sad songs by Kishore Kumar playing.> > Tout: Okay, to love break hua hai tumhara. Abhi humko samjha.> > Fully satisfied about the reason, the tout left.> > So, this is Goa's fun image. > > regards, > Samir Kelekar > -- This does not in any way substantiate Samir's claim about a 100 girls provided to a company at a 5-star hotel for discotheque or disco-sex as alleged in his original STORY No.1 ;-( Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]Goa's fun image.
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Dear Samir,
There is no point writing in shifting sands.
One day you allege that 100 girls were 'provided' in Goa and call for
legalizing prostitution in Goa. Next time they become partners in a
disco...subject to confirmation from your undisclosed source in Goa.Give me
his phone number if you cannot afford a STD call to him to confirm...or hold
your peace.
You live in Bangalore but do not know if the rajyotsav is about old Mysore
state or new state of Karnataka. Perhaps, you would like to legalise
prostitution in Bangalore first. It is flourishing there in massage
parlours, gyms and the like...in case you are ignorant of that, too.
..
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>
> What exactly you want a provisional apology for? Can you clarify?
> You have written so much and I dont see how it relates to an apology.
> Btw, my position on prostitution is that it should be legalized and
> regularized. And that is independent of the place: Goa, Bangalore or
> Las Vegas!
> Samir
..
{In a ironic twist, the participants in the Kala Academy's 'Gomant Darshan'
which glibly portrays catholics as
drunkards, staged a protest asking for their perkson the steps of
Panjim's Church on 9 Nov..}
...
Please consider your thoughts and information before you post. Surely, you
lack the grace to apologise for irresponsible posts. I will wind up my
discussion with you on this thread. It is an exercise in futility. You can
have the last wordI would prefer if it was " SORRY."
Viva Goa.
Miguel
[Goanet]Goa's fun image....
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## btw I was not the only person who heard this story. There was another friend of mine present; what I will try to do if the original narrater retracts/some other problem is there is to put anyone interested in finding out if it is a canard or not, in touch with this other guy. He is on email. regards, Samir Kelekar >I think you should apologise for posting such a carnard...or name your 'source' of such libel. Would it be fair for me to say that according to a reliable source one of Samir's cousins was a part of this group? >
[Goanet]Goa's fun image....
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Samir, I think you should apologise for posting such a carnard...or name your 'source' of such libel. Would it be fair for me to say that according to a reliable source one of Samir's cousins was a part of this group? > From: Lawrie D'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > SamBAB, If indeed your reliable source is reliable enough, then whats the problem in revealing more > details of company/hotel/pimp used..I feel this is pure B*** S*** > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > This is what I heard from a reliable source. At a recent male-only retreat by an Indian company > > in a renowned 5 start hotel, 100 male members were supplied with 100 young > > girls as companions for the evening. The girls turned out to be local teenage girls from the > > surrounding villages. I think it is time Goa legalize and regulate prostitution. > > Samir Kelekar And I am not even saying that the alleged cousin was not one of the company males. ;-( There must be some verification. If you have the date of their alleged stay in Goa, one can trace the company even if the girls are not on record. How can one be stupid enough to think that a 5 star hotel will permit 100 girls, who are not the hotel's paid guests, to enter the rooms? It is not as if the girls can be smuggled in one's pockets or bags like some sea shells or trinketsspecially not if they are supposed to provide some 'fun'. Let us have the apology ,please. Even a graceful Samir can make a mistake. It is graceful to apologise when a mistake is made. Viva Goa. Miguel
Re: [Goanet]Goa's fun image....
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## SamBAB, If indeed your reliable source is reliable enough, then whats the problem in revealing more details of company/hotel/pimp used.. The so call reliable should take some inspiration from Ethel Dcosta... this news should have gone on NT/GT/H Headlines... Maybe the Reliable Source could reveal this story to create a TEHELKA in GOA. I feel this is pure B*** S*** cheers --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is what I heard from a reliable source. > At a recent male-only retreat by an Indian company > in a renowned 5 start > hotel, 100 male members were supplied with 100 young > girls as companions > for the evening. The girls turned out to be local > teenage girls from the > surrounding villages. (Hey, way to make easy money; > takes care of the > shopping needs of the teenage girls). > > I think it is time Goa legalize and regulate > prostitution. > > regards, > Samir Kelekar > > = == Men are like steel: when they lose their temper, they lose their worth. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Goa's fun image....
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## This is what I heard from a reliable source. At a recent male-only retreat by an Indian company in a renowned 5 start hotel, 100 male members were supplied with 100 young girls as companions for the evening. The girls turned out to be local teenage girls from the surrounding villages. (Hey, way to make easy money; takes care of the shopping needs of the teenage girls). I think it is time Goa legalize and regulate prostitution. regards, Samir Kelekar > Headline: Goa's 'fun' image in no danger > > Byline: An attempt to present the 'other' face of Goa did not gather support > from the Union Minister of Tourism, Renuka Chowdhary at the Goa Mahotsav > held in Delhi. > > BY DEVIKA SEQUEIRA > Source: Deccan Herald. 30 October 2004 at: > http://67.18.142.206/deccanherald/oct302004/n8.asp > > Full text: > > > Mr Dessai's characteristic remarks were not the only glitch at the poorly > organised Delhi event. An 80-member dance troupe that travelled all the way > from Goa ended up performing before an audience of barely 20 persons at the > Siri Fort Auditorium as Goan officials had forgotten to send out > invitations. > The Susegado tag rarely leaves Goans even if they travel outside Goa. Another disaster is around the corner. Hope i am proved wrong this time:-) Seb
Re: [Goanet]Goa's 'fun' image in no danger: Deccan Herald. 30 Oct. By Devika Sequeira
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## > > Headline: Goa's 'fun' image in no danger > > Byline: An attempt to present the 'other' face of Goa did not gather support > from the Union Minister of Tourism, Renuka Chowdhary at the Goa Mahotsav > held in Delhi. > > BY DEVIKA SEQUEIRA > Source: Deccan Herald. 30 October 2004 at: > http://67.18.142.206/deccanherald/oct302004/n8.asp > > Full text: > > > Mr Dessai's characteristic remarks were not the only glitch at the poorly > organised Delhi event. An 80-member dance troupe that travelled all the way > from Goa ended up performing before an audience of barely 20 persons at the > Siri Fort Auditorium as Goan officials had forgotten to send out > invitations. > The Susegado tag rarely leaves Goans even if they travel outside Goa. Another disaster is around the corner. Hope i am proved wrong this time:-) Seb
[Goanet]Goa's 'fun' image in no danger: Deccan Herald. 30 Oct. By Devika Sequeira
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Headline: Goa's 'fun' image in no danger Byline: An attempt to present the 'other' face of Goa did not gather support from the Union Minister of Tourism, Renuka Chowdhary at the Goa Mahotsav held in Delhi. BY DEVIKA SEQUEIRA Source: Deccan Herald. 30 October 2004 at: http://67.18.142.206/deccanherald/oct302004/n8.asp Full text: It isn't clear what image of Goa the BJP-led government here proposes to promote during the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), which is being viewed as a great tourism boost for the state. If he had his way Goa's Minister for Art and Culture Ramrao Dessai would like to "erase the false image of Goa as a land of fun, feni and frolic" and "westernised" society. The Goa government has organised a six-day Goa Mahotsav in New Delhi to project the 'other' face of this state. But Mr Dessai's pronouncement on Tuesday in Delhi before an audience of mainly non-resident Goans and the Union Minister for Tourism Renuka Chowdhary fell somewhat flat when the event's joint organisers, Goenkaracho Ekvott distributed miniature bottles of feni to dignitaries and members of the media. More embarrassing still, Ms Chowdhary decided to snub the minister for his comments. Goa she said, represented the beautiful beaches, the smell of feni and pork 'vindaloo'. "There is no better place for Christmas and New Year in the country," the union minister remarked even as she promised to promote the state as India's number-one tourist destination. Poorly organised event Mr Dessai's characteristic remarks were not the only glitch at the poorly organised Delhi event. An 80-member dance troupe that travelled all the way from Goa ended up performing before an audience of barely 20 persons at the Siri Fort Auditorium as Goan officials had forgotten to send out invitations. Meanwhile the event management of the film festival being held in Goa from November 29 to December 9 has been given to the Times Group's 360 Degrees, the state government announced recently. The company is being paid Rs 37 lakh to handle the screening of films on the beach, entertainment and ushering at the multiplexes, a government spokesman said. = Forwarded by Eddie Fernandes Thought: Is the Kala Academy an official alcohol-free zone? Will it remain so for IFFI? I should be able to let you know in due course since my wife is an official IFFI delegate and we are timing out Goa holiday to coincide with the event. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004
