Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites'
Goenkars ! Eugenio , you have responded to Cornell 's email like a * NIZ GOENKAR * * a True blooded Goan * ! : - ) .Hurray ! I only hope and pray that many of our NIZ GOENKAR's on this and other Goan Forums - take Eugenio's example . rene barreto www.goaday.com VIVA GOA DAY ! == --- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel's query regarding true blooded Goan can be best summurized by an appropriate, though not equal, Konkani words, Aum Nix Goenkar. It's just for emphasis. Or, rather hyperbole. Those who often say these words mean that they are Goans to the core. It defies defination. As as extenstion, Indians often says, Aum Bharatiya Aye. No literal translation, but it means we are Indians through and through. In this context, RDK's reply to my post on Britain and immigrants and Rene's subsequent queries are relevant. As RDK says what he said was obvious in relation to the outsider factor in Goa. Goans in Goa, when convenient, blames outsiders for many of the state's problems -- from employment to corruption to shortages of essential items. Migrant labour comes where there is demand such as Biharis going to Punjab to work the fields and settling there in quite a good number. Some of them have become baptized Sikhs. However, these new Sikhs are not welcomed with open arms. Native Sikhs look upon these Sikhs as people who have embraced the religion to gain communal acceptance and for economic reasons. In contrasst, a white person converting to Sikhism is often welcomed with open arms and warm hearts. Ami Goenkar was a battlecry some years ago when the employment problem rose its ugly head in Goa. Similarly, sons-of-the-soil campaign in Goa started but never got a boost. Some political leaders wanted to exploit this ill-conceived slogan for political gain, just as the Shiv Sena used it to gain political mileage from Maharashtrians in the early history of the party. The Congress was powerful in the state and the Shiv Sena used every gimmick to make inroads into the Congress vote banks, large parts of it being Maharashtrians. So, Cornel take heart. Sharon probably wanted to show that she is a brave Goan who weathered the monsoon mayhem and survive to tell a story. Her story is one of the many that may have been heard in those trying -- and crying - monsoon tales. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites'
Cornel's query regarding true blooded Goan can be best summurized by an appropriate, though not equal, Konkani words, Aum Nix Goenkar. It's just for emphasis. Or, rather hyperbole. Those who often say these words mean that they are Goans to the core. It defies defination. As as extenstion, Indians often says, Aum Bharatiya Aye. No literal translation, but it means we are Indians through and through. In this context, RDK's reply to my post on Britain and immigrants and Rene's subsequent queries are relevant. As RDK says what he said was obvious in relation to the outsider factor in Goa. Goans in Goa, when convenient, blames outsiders for many of the state's problems -- from employment to corruption to shortages of essential items. Migrant labour comes where there is demand such as Biharis going to Punjab to work the fields and settling there in quite a good number. Some of them have become baptized Sikhs. However, these new Sikhs are not welcomed with open arms. Native Sikhs look upon these Sikhs as people who have embraced the religion to gain communal acceptance and for economic reasons. In contrasst, a white person converting to Sikhism is often welcomed with open arms and warm hearts. Ami Goenkar was a battlecry some years ago when the employment problem rose its ugly head in Goa. Similarly, sons-of-the-soil campaign in Goa started but never got a boost. Some political leaders wanted to exploit this ill-conceived slogan for political gain, just as the Shiv Sena used it to gain political mileage from Maharashtrians in the early history of the party. The Congress was powerful in the state and the Shiv Sena used every gimmick to make inroads into the Congress vote banks, large parts of it being Maharashtrians. So, Cornel take heart. Sharon probably wanted to show that she is a brave Goan who weathered the monsoon mayhem and survive to tell a story. Her story is one of the many that may have been heard in those trying -- and crying - monsoon tales. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald)
Dear Cornel, Think about it. Here is a young woman who has gone through so much and all you have to ask her is what she means by stating that is a pure blooded Goan. It certainly is a curious remark on her part, and I surmise that she saw that as the strength that took her through those two days. Not some genetic encoding. Others in all probabbility had similar pure blooded reflections that strengthend them. I often encountered students at JJ (School of Art as well as Applied Art), or still encounter our neighbours in Chembur say Amhi Shuddh Marathi. On simialr thoughts, the one instance when a Goan in Ahemedabad got hacked in the riots. He was the related to the current Bombay Salesian Provincial, Ivo. We arrived in Ahmedabad and were picked up by an Army jeep full of jawans and brought home. The first Goan who we encountered looked us straight in the eyes, Fr. Ivo's mother, Valentine - his brother and myself and simple said Ami Jawan. Vally and myself concluded that what our Goeankar was stating simply was -- despite this calamity we are should stay strong. We will greet each other again with this greeting, that has become a jestful ritual when we meet this September in Goa. Anyway Cornel, nothing against you but you stirred upo some old thoughts. Curiously too, Venantius J Pinto This is a genuine question to Sharon Mascarenhas as to what exactly she means by saying she is a pure blooded Goan. Is this term somehow linked to her MSc in nursing? Just curious. Cornel - Original Message - From: Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald) http://oheraldo.in/node/2333?PHPSESSID=381496c85b7387264735b864578a2fd1 Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury [Herald] BY SHARON MASCARENHAS This is the story of a pure blooded Goan who faced the wrath of Mumbai these past three days. 664 West 163 Street, #57 New York, NY 10032-4527 USA PH/Fax: +1 212.928.3955
[Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald)
This is a genuine question to Sharon Mascarenhas as to what exactly she means by saying she is a pure blooded Goan. Is this term somehow linked to her MSc in nursing? Just curious. Cornel - Original Message - From: Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury (Herald) http://oheraldo.in/node/2333?PHPSESSID=381496c85b7387264735b864578a2fd1 Goan experiences Mumbaiites' spirit during monsoon fury [Herald] BY SHARON MASCARENHAS This is the story of a pure blooded Goan who faced the wrath of Mumbai these past three days.
[Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites spirit during monsoon fury (Herald)
http://oheraldo.in/node/2333?PHPSESSID=381496c85b7387264735b864578a2fd1 Goan experiences Mumbaiites spirit during monsoon fury [Herald] BY SHARON MASCARENHAS This is the story of a pure blooded Goan who faced the wrath of Mumbai these past three days. My college is situated at Churchgate and Im doing a course in MSc nursing over there. But twice a week we have to attend a management lecture at the Juhu campus. It was the dreaded Tuesday when our teacher told us that classes will be cancelled because of heavy rains. I thought that it was funny to cancel classes because of rain, but all teachers coaxed us to return to Churchgate from Juhu as soon as possible. Till then, I never knew the severity of the situation. I panicked when none of the rickshaw drivers were willing to stop and drop me to the station to catch a train to my paying guest house. In that tension, all my classmates scurried in different directions. The crowd advised me to walk towards the station. I had no option but to walk. Not knowing Mumbai roads too well, I landed in a ditch and that was the end of my books and clothes. With my sprained ankle, I dragged myself to the station and to my shock, all trains had stopped running. Some people assured me that they would start running in a couple of hours. I bought myself a Parle biscuit and sat on the platform. I waited from 3 pm to 5 pm cold, alone and barefoot (I had lost my slippers in the heavy flow of water on my way to Santa Cruz station from Juhu). Someone told me that if I walk to Andheri I might get a harbour line train. At 5.15 pm, I started my barefoot walk along the track to Andheri. When I reached there in a couple of hours, I saw more people stranded there and no sign of any moving train. I also met a classmate who is a nun and she offered to take me to the convent. But when we hit the road (by this time my ankle was red and swollen), there was a human chain outside Andheri station, telling us not to venture any further as the water level was neck deep. At this, I started crying (I know its stupid for a 24-year-old nurse). The volunteers took us to a government shed and asked us to sit there the whole night. No food, no water and cold clothes. I shivered the whole night and the sad sight site of babies and children crying made me even more depressed. The only thing that kept me going was calls from my family and friends, but after sometime that mode of support too was lost as my battery gave way. Wednesday dawned and at 4 am, we were told to vacate the school. We visited all bus stops and the station too, but there was no mode of transport. The nun and I then decided to walk to the convent of Holy Shepherd. We started our walk against the currents for almost 2-and-half hours, in the dark murky waters. I did not glimpse down for once fearing to see in what I was walking. But as it became brighter I saw that I was walking through all possible shit of Mumbai, including dead fish, animals, worms, insects, rotten vegetables and fruit floating in it. Amidst everything else were broken cars, buses and houses, but not the spirits of the people. After what seemed like eternity, we reached the convent and the sisters there really did the best they could to make me feel better. It was only the next morning when the situation stabilised, I left the convent with a pair of slippers from the sisters. Thursday morning and after wading in hip-level water for 2 days, the ankle deep water seemed like such a relief. When I reached the station, the trains were miraculously running to Churchgate. All my roommates were waiting to listen to my 48-hour adventure story. I felt proud of myself, a survivor. I surpassed the worst of floods in Mumbai and today, when anyone tells me that its raining heavily in Goa, I smile to myself saying that Ive been through worse. I still remember volunteers helping us cross roads to safety in chest level water at Andheri and another man forcing a packet of Tiger biscuits in my hand. Ill never forget this incident. It has made me a stronger person. (Hailing from Sarzora-Salcete, Sharon is in Mumbai for her post graduation degree at SNDT Womens University)
