Re: [Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Fred, There is a light drizzle in the evening. The next day a leading newspaper carries a photo of a giant Raintree[ which has withstood storms for the last 50 years] uprooted by the inclement weather. No one disputes it. There is a gust of wind, not enough to topple the plastic traffic cones, but another giant Raintree uproots and topples over. Fact or Fiction? The photo caption says it did. The trees were planted. So were the photos . PLANTED. Nurtured by the PRESS. GT is no virgin in this. It has nutured plants in the past. So why this talk about freedon of the Press. Press it lightly and it yields. It almost always has. If you know a consistent exception to this rule, please let me know. [I am not talking about individual journalists, I am talking of a newspaper operating in Goa] .You will know the inherent contradictions in the so-called newspaper before I point them out. We really do not have newspapers any more. We only have PROPAGANDA...and ADVERTISEMMENTS. Even some commercial 'plants' feature as 'news' by staff reporters or news desk. Some are blatant about it, others are coy. THAT'S THE POINT. It is all about money,honey. From: Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is that divide-and-rule works. In the media too. Probably more so in the media, when there's a fat, juicy (often undeserved) advertising carrot at the end of the policy. It's a sad day that we accept as normal the fact that views and perceptives can be turned off and on with advertising. FN On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Miguel Braganza wrote: Dear Fred, I am not justifying the advertising policies of the governments, past and present.I am just stating a fact: like it or lump it. The day all the newspaper managements, the Editors Guild and the GUJ members will see this from one perspective has not yet dawned. It is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future. . So what is your point? I believe that once it was decided to broaden the roads and make foot paths[ political and administrative decision], there was no way the tree could remain. I was only sad that the Government machinery had to act like a bank robber, breaking things in the dead of the night. They should have felled the trees in broad daylight and justified why they were doing it. It is sad that the trees had to goBUT THEY ARE NOT IRREPLACEABLE. In fact, Raintrees planted a few years back are already growing big on the Miramar-Dona Paula stretch. How huge they can get can be seen on the Guirim-Porvorim road, where two rain trees planted in 1985 are already huge without any care. Should we not work to nurture these trees? does anyone know how many trees were cut to make the Kadamba road to Old Goa? Does anyone care to know? The point is the newspaper propaganda went out of the way to cover up shabbily an act it should have exposed. The counterpoint is that GT sensationalized the story of crucifixtion of these self same trees. Was that not propaganda? Who was being crucified? Was the imagery and symbolism accidental? Should we dig up those stories? Was there no hidden agenda? Why did the people who agitated so much when Sanjit Rodrigues was the Commissioner of CCP suddenly become quiet when Suryanarayan came to town? Principles? Ethics? or Needs? Viva Goa. Miguel
Re: [Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## My point is that divide-and-rule works. In the media too. Probably more so in the media, when there's a fat, juicy (often undeserved) advertising carrot at the end of the policy. It's a sad day that we accept as normal the fact that views and perceptives can be turned off and on with advertising. FN On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Miguel Braganza wrote: Dear Fred, I am not justifying the advertising policies of the governments, past and present.I am just stating a fact: like it or lump it. The day all the newspaper managements, the Editors Guild and the GUJ members will see this from one perspective has not yet dawned. It is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future. Percept is one thing; practice is an entirely different ball game. I will be only too happy if the Navhind Times, the oHeraldo, Tarun Bharat or even the Dainik Gomantak write editorials criticising this unstated policyor would they refuse to publish Goa Government advertisements and reports for the duration of IFFI? That will not happen. So what is your point?
Re: [Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What needs to be ascertained is whether the Goa government (politicians or through bureaucrats) have threatened GT with the withdrawal of advertisements. If so, it is unjustifiable by any account. Gomantak Times' reporter Reuben Proenca has publicly stated, through the Goajourno mailing list, that the paper has been warned that it will not be getting the IFFI adverts. Sections of the Press and journalists are being openly influenced by various blandishments. Shades of Salazarist censorship? Plus ça change, plus même chose, what? Gabriel. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Fred, I am not justifying the advertising policies of the governments, past and present.I am just stating a fact: like it or lump it. The day all the newspaper managements, the Editors Guild and the GUJ members will see this from one perspective has not yet dawned. It is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future. Percept is one thing; practice is an entirely different ball game. I will be only too happy if the Navhind Times, the oHeraldo, Tarun Bharat or even the Dainik Gomantak write editorials criticising this unstated policyor would they refuse to publish Goa Government advertisements and reports for the duration of IFFI? That will not happen. So what is your point? - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few papers which have been taking a critical stance. To argue that other governments have used a uneven policy towards some papers (Herald), and suggest that this is a justification for the current policy, is indeed shortsighted. *If tax-payers could insist that advertisements should not be used as a carrot for the press, but handed out on merits, then surely we would have had a less pliable press in Goa* -FN On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, Anthony Barretto wrote: Dear Miguel Braganza, If there is any sarcasm in the questions you have raised over my mail I have missed it. If the Government stops releasing advertisements to a particular newspaper, it is no new thing. Miguel .. PIL in this matter is not likely to be admitted in the High Court. What is the* legal issue*of Public interest? Courts of law cannot deal with moral or social issues not covered by law.What is the Public Interest in a private company? Can we file a PIL for advertisements in the Goan Observer or Goa Messenger or Goa Timesor any other publication? Can we file for even handed advertisements in school souvenirs and magazines? Which law is being contravened and under which Act of the Parliament or Legislative Assembly as notified for Goa? If there is a case for a PIL, who will deposit the security amount for Costs in case of an adverse order/judgement? As far as I know, an amount of Rs.30,000/- has to be deposited with the High Court Registrar while filing a PIL. There is no sarcasm in what I wrote in response to Anthony Barreto's posting; just realism. Fred, how do you propose that the taxpayer *insist* with the Government? If it is a protest, how many journos will join? Or should the CAG ,NJT or some other body take up the issue on behalf of GUJ, EG, etc.? Let us have a concrete plan to judge on merits. Viva Goa. Miguel
Re: [Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Miguel: On this issue, I think you're justifying the unjustifiable. What needs to be ascertained is whether the Goa government (politicians or through bureaucrats) have threatened GT with the withdrawal of advertisements. If so, it is unjustifiable by any account. There can be no quid pro quo in terms of exchanging advertisements (paid for by taxpayer's money) for favourable publicity. Gomantak Times' reporter Reuben Proenca has publicly stated, through the Goajourno mailing list, that the paper has been warned that it will not be getting the IFFI adverts. It would have perhaps carried more weight if someone senior in the publication had come out with the statement. Anyway, the issue is simply this: if it is true, it is despicable. Sections of the Press and journalists are being openly influenced by various blandishments. IFFI contracts are no exception. Local news-channels have got earlier similarly influenced, and some even get paid for every boring official item they cover (no wonder there's so much of it!) A few papers which have been taking a critical stance. (GT has been coming down hard for the past few weeks, and this is obviously hurting those who believe they have mastered ways of trimming out the inconvenient news from the Goa reader's eye of sight.) To argue that other governments have used a uneven policy towards some papers (Herald), and suggest that this is a justification for the current policy, is indeed shortsighted. If tax-payers could insist that advertisements should not be used as a carrot for the press, but handed out on merits, then surely we would have had a less pliable press in Goa. Goa needs it for its own good; the politicians of the time may not! -FN On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, Anthony Barretto wrote: Dear Miguel Braganza, If there is any sarcasm in the questions you have raised over my mail I have missed it. I thought the answers to the questions you ask were obvious. Never mind if I have to say the obvious if it needs to be said. Here are the answers. If the Government stops releasing advertisements to a particular newspaper, it is no new thing. oHeraldo has suffered the same fate in the past...and has overcome it, and grown.
[Goanet]Govt Ads: The obvious needs to be said.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Miguel Braganza, If there is any sarcasm in the questions you have raised over my mail I have missed it. I thought the answers to the questions you ask were obvious. Never mind if I have to say the obvious if it needs to be said. Here are the answers. If the Government stops releasing advertisements to a particular newspaper, it is no new thing. oHeraldo has suffered the same fate in the past...and has overcome it, and grown. Of course the Herald has grown without government ads. But Goa's New York Times has remainded a govt mouthpiece conveniently denying the public what it wants to know for fear of losing its assured ad revenue. Gomantak Times can definitely do that. They have to step up their marketing and mop up other sources of ad revenue. The Sakal Group can print and sell the paper for another 100 years for a loss. And how they mop up other sources of ad revenue is also not the point. The point is if the Sakal group decides today that they need the govt ads and stops writing anything that Mr Parrikar and Co are not pleased to read, then some facts that we got to know would never have been told to us. And if all the newspapers decide to be govt puppets for govt ads, dear Miguel, you know how that would be for those who depend entirely on the newspapers for their news. How does the interest of a newspaper become 'public interest'...the basis for a PIL ? I am at a loss to understand. My Dear Miguel. I am a tax payer. And if the government is misusing my and other tax payers money to promote his private interest (papers who get the Govt ads don't utter a word against him. This is what I call private interest) then is it not a fit case to file a PIL seeking equal distribution of Govt ads for all local newspapers. At least that will make them free to say what they want to say without any fear of losing. Freedom of the Press, for one thing, should mean the press should be free to write what it has to without losing on govt Ad revenue? Tony Martin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
