Interesting stats. Using last names has two problems,
though.
Firstly they may tell us about ethinicity, but nothing
about domicile.
Secondly, last names are,as you pointed out, an
unreliable indicator. A Rebello, kumar, Hussain or
Dhawalkar could be from any number of states.
Any opinions on why the relatively smaller number of
natives in the goa administration ?
--- Daryl Martyris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fred,
>
> The question is why an IAS officer was in an purely
> operational role in
> which local experience counts and not a policy one
> which requires great
> analytical skills. The present incumbent is not IAS
> and seems to be doing a
> better job (certainly no worse).
>
> Since this discussion has gone beyond simply IAS, to
> involve all government
> positions, to have an informed discussion, I visted
> the websites of the Goa
> Govt and the Kerala Govt. to see if I could figure
> out the proportion of
> "locals" in high-ranking administrative positions.
> Note that I chose Kerala
> randomly, and my definition of "local" is based on
> last names common to the
> state - definitely not a scientific basis
>
> %
> locals
>Kerala
>Goa
> Chief secretaries, Secretaries40% 0
> Collectors 40%
> 0
> Jt Secretaries>60% 36%
> Under secretaries >60% 92%
> Directors/Commissioners ? ?
>
> The >60% indicates that I stopped counting, since
> the conclusion was clear.
> What this tells us is that while the results in
> first 2 categories might be
> expected since Goa has no IAS cadre and few appear
> for IAS, the other
> postions (jt and under secretaries) which are not
> reserved exclusively for
> IAS are also disproportionately filled by non-Goans.
> We already know that
> even director positions are occasionally filled by
> non-Goans.
>
> BTW I think this is unnecessarily being made into a
> Goan vs. Indian vs.
> Portuguese issue. Whether or not you consider Goans
> as Indians or not, a
> simple look at the stats above should tell us that
> far more Keralites govern
> themselves than do Goans. I believe that Kerala is
> ahead of Goa on every
> human development indicator except income. More
> importantly, I know that
> Kerala has made more progress on every indicator
> since 1947 than Goa has
> since 1961 (at least in education for sure). Ergo,
> notwithstanding
> political will (which is probably equally bad in
> both places), I think that
> there's something to be said about local expertise
> to solve local problems.
> Maybe having family and friends locally that one
> care's about, or the fact
> that one would have to stick around to face the
> consequences of one's action
> (or inaction) makes one do one take one's job more
> seriously..I don't
> know...
>
> May I also point out that the statement below is not
> relevant to the
> discussion, and is also patently false? Easterly's
> (Former senior advisor
> World Bank) book "The elusive quest for growth.."
> suggests that Goa was
> subsidized (as opposed to looted) by the Portuguese.
> I happen to know
> because I was forced to read it for a class. Since
> he is neither Indian nor
> Portuguese and deals in facts for a living, I trust
> his account. In any
> event, one can always consider Portuguese
> citizenship as a kind of
> reparations for the looting, eh? =)
>
> cheers,
>
> Daryl
>
>
> >>Someone should tell this Collaco that the
> "thousands of Goans" who were
> >>part of the Portuguese administration were
> basically helping that regime
> >>to plunder the wealth of India.
>
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