[Goanet]Santosh & S Verses.
Santosh Helekar writes: On Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:39 pm Subject: [Goanet]Satanic Verses Hi Santosh: You have got it all wrong my friend, I suggest you take a deep breath and ponder over what you write - else you might get in hot waters someday in the outside *free* world. Thank your stars that you can say what you say, by staying in the West. Make no mistake -- you will have had your head on a platter, if you wouldve professed the S Verses anywhere in the Mid East. Remember this: Even your friends Tariq, Marlon,Mervyn, Allwyn, or even Judas Escariot or Pontius Pilate do not believe you. They may deny Jesus, but will not claim that Jesus did not exist -- and that goes for your professor friend too, who fired up this debate (through the controversial link) just to ingratiate himself with you. As for the rest of us let us take a break from discussing with the net jester --Chimbelcho of the civilized and free world -- who prides on impudent demeanor and cannot distinguish between blasphemy and respect for religion. Joe Vaz - From: Santosh Helekar Date: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:39 pm Subject: [Goanet]Satanic Verses In a message dated 8/14/2003 3:15:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would sturdily object if Salman Rushdie's 'Satanic Verses' were posted on this Forum. A lot of people, including I, would strongly object to any censorship or ban of Satanic Verses or any other religious parody in this public forum. You will always find people standing up and correcting any obnoxious or provocative posts here. There will also be people who will stand up to "correct" those who think they are "correcting" others. The self-righteous need to be shown that they are often wrong. Tariq, Marlon, George, Mervyn and Allwyn are doing a splendid job in that regard. Blasphemy died more than 300 years ago in the civilized and free world. Cheers, Santosh _ Over 6,70,000 brides and grooms. http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Click here to join for free. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Santosh & S. Verses.
In a message dated 8/15/2003 6:00:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Thank your stars that you can say what you say, by staying in the West. > Make no mistake -- you will have had your head on a platter, if you would've > professed the S. Verses anywhere in the Mid East. > Joe Vaz, Do you approve of the above practice? Do you want something like that imposed in India or Goa or Goanet? > > Remember this: Even your friends Tariq, Marlon,Mervyn, Allwyn, or even > Judas Escariot or Pontius Pilate do not believe you. They may deny Jesus, > but will not claim that Jesus did not exist -- and that goes for your > professor friend too, who fired up this debate (through the controversial > link) just to ingratiate himself with you. > I have many professor friends who believe me. For your kind information, I am a professor as well. I also know several priests who believe me. And 95% of distiguished members of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences do as well. > > As for the rest of us let us take a break from discussing with the net > jester --Chimbelcho of the civilized and free world -- who prides on > impudent demeanor and cannot distinguish between 'blasphemy' and 'respect' > for religion. > I wish you would only speak for yourself. But you cannot help being a net-pope or net-mullah. I am yet to see you become a net-swami though. I doubt you respect people's belief in the caste system and idol worship. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Santosh & S Verses.
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Joe Vaz wrote: > Remember this: Even your friends Tariq, Marlon,Mervyn, Allwyn, or even > Judas Escariot or Pontius Pilate do not believe you. They may deny Jesus, > but will not claim that Jesus did not exist -- and that goes for your > professor friend too, who fired up this debate (through the controversial > link) just to ingratiate himself with you. This debate was never whether Jesus existed or not. Or at least, no one responded to George's mail with proofs that Jesus existed. This had turned into whether people should be allowed to question religion. On that my position is yes. -- Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Rockets Lover! Laker Hater !!! *** ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Santosh & S Verses.
Santosh, it seems like you have run out of ideas and I do not blame you for that.When a person looses confidence in himself he tends to get confused, and negative thoughts come to his mind, never mind it happens and I think it is time you take a holiday and come afresh on the net with positive ideas, if you still insist, there are many to take you onn not on religious issues but on a clean platform. Befor I go off have a great week and look for ward for your reply on this. Vivek --- Joe Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Santosh Helekar writes: > On Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:39 pm > Subject: [Goanet]Satanic Verses > > to any censorship or > ban of Satanic Verses or any other religious parody > in this public forum.> > > > Hi Santosh: > > You have got it all wrong my friend, I suggest you > take a deep breath and > ponder over what you write - else you might get in > hot waters someday in > the outside *free* world. > > Thank your stars that you can say what you say, by > staying in the West. > Make no mistake -- you will have had your head on a > platter, if you wouldve > professed the S Verses anywhere in the Mid East. > > > "correct" those who think > they are "correcting" others. The self-righteous > need to be shown that they > are often wrong. Tariq, Marlon, George, Mervyn and > Allwyn are doing a > splendid job in that regard.> > > > Remember this: Even your friends Tariq, > Marlon,Mervyn, Allwyn, or even > Judas Escariot or Pontius Pilate do not believe you. > They may deny Jesus, > but will not claim that Jesus did not exist -- and > that goes for your > professor friend too, who fired up this debate > (through the controversial > link) just to ingratiate himself with you. > > As for the rest of us let us take a break from > discussing with the net > jester --Chimbelcho of the civilized and free > world -- who prides on > impudent demeanor and cannot distinguish between > blasphemy and respect > for religion. > > > Joe Vaz > > - > > > From: Santosh Helekar > Date: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:39 pm > Subject: [Goanet]Satanic Verses > > In a message dated 8/14/2003 3:15:45 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >I would sturdily object if Salman Rushdie's > 'Satanic Verses' were posted on > >this Forum. > > > > A lot of people, including I, would strongly object > to any censorship or ban > of > Satanic Verses or any other religious parody in this > public forum. > > > > >You will always find people standing up and > correcting any obnoxious or > >provocative posts here. > > > > There will also be people who will stand up to > "correct" those who think > they > are "correcting" others. The self-righteous need to > be shown that they are > often wrong. Tariq, Marlon, George, Mervyn and > Allwyn are doing a splendid > job > in that regard. > > Blasphemy died more than 300 years ago in the > civilized and free world. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > _ > Over 6,70,000 brides and grooms. > http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 > Click here to join > for free. > > > ## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ## Yahoo! India Promos: Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players & more! Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Santosh & S. Verses.
Santosh Hekelar writes: On Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:57 pm Joe Vaz wrote: Remember this: Even your friends Tariq, Marlon,Mervyn, Allwyn, or even Judas Escariot or Pontius Pilate do not believe you. They may deny Jesus, but will not claim that Jesus did not exist -- and that goes for your professor friend too, who fired up this debate (through the controversial link) just to ingratiate himself with you. Santosh writes: [I have many professor friends who believe me. For your kind information, I am a professor as well. I also know several priests who believe me. And 95% of distiguished members of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences do as well.] Hello Santosh: There are no doubts that you do not know what you are talking about. You must have strange Priest friends (if they are Christian at all) who believe your claim that Jesus Christ did not exist. Perhaps you need to go back and reconfirm your spurious version above, with your so-called priest friends who did not believe in Jesus existence, yet chose to become Priests. As for your many professor friends, I can understand that some come with their inherent fantasies and fantasized theories - however cynical those theories might be. I have known quite a few professors too (though most of them were intelligent men of high integrity), but that doesnt negate the fact that some join the rat race to create a fake name for themselves, on the basis of dubious claims. In the final analysis, its nothing but a rats race for cheap publicity. And I hope you arent telling us to believe all that you profess in your capacity as a professor. Your subject claim lacks credence or substance, and the rest of what you say is invariably subject to validation -- as in the case of your confusing and inaccurate data that baffled the New Rochelle students/audience. It appears that your knowledge of history does not extend to the era which Jesus Christ lived, consequently your claims that Christ did not exist. As for the rest of us let us take a break from discussing with the net jester --Chimbelcho of the civilized and free world -- who prides on impudent demeanor and cannot distinguish between 'blasphemy' and 'respect' for religion. Santosh writes: [I wish you would only speak for yourself. But you cannot help being a net-pope or net-mullah. I am yet to see you become a net-swami though. I doubt you respect people's belief in the caste system and idol worship.] Thank you. You can call me net-pope, net-mullah or net-swami, but as long as you speak gibberish, you can count on people to set the record straight. As for your belief/s in the caste system and idol worship, -- you are free to indulge in the above activities, at your hearts content. I will not dissuade you in your personal beliefs. Joe Vaz _ Are you a geek? Do gizmos make you grin? http://www.msn.co.in/Computing/Gizmos/ Click here! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
