Re: [Goanet] The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Santosh, >You are so full of [EMAIL PROTECTED], pardon my French, that it >is a waste of time arguing with you about an attitude >we can all read in your words. > I am sorry that I have driven Mario Goveia to such an indefensible position that his only recourse is to use expletives against me. Mario Goveia has once again failed to defend against my charge that the Bush Iraq war is based on a lie. Like the politicians and the partisan hacks that he supports, he has also once again failed to demonstrate the courage and honesty to admit that there were no WMDs in Iraq just before the war, and there never was any imminent threat to the U.S. from them. As far as the rest of his embarrassing outburst is concerned, the questions that he poses in capital letters stem from a specious post-hoc rationalization for an illegal war. They are meant to disguise the fact that the Iraq war was based on a lie. These questions are really, completely saiba bogus. Saiba Bogos! Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am writing this with pride at the collective wisdom of the American electorate and the spirit of democracy that underpins this great country. The United States, the free world and the new concept that Muslim nations deserve the opportunity to live in freedom and democracy, dodged a bullet last night with the re-election of President Bush. 125 million Americans spoke with their votes, defied Osama Bin Laden's endorsement of John Kerry, thumbed their noses at Jacques Chirac's and Mohammad al Baradei's attempt to influence American politics, and rejected the blatant falsehoods of George Soros, Michael Moore, MoveOn.org and the mainstream media, led by the New York Times nationally and the Toledo Blade locally. The president the patronizing left calls a "dummy", "cowboy"and "liar", received the largest vote count in US history and won by some 3.5 million votes in the popular vote, which he had lost by 500 votes in 2000. John Kerry salvaged what little class he had left and graciously conceded the election, disappointing a small army of lawyers. Good for him. This offsets to a some extent the destructive, self-serving opportunism his entire history suggests. As a Republican volunteer here in Ohio, who was so terrified of a Kerry presidency that I spent hours knocking on doors and making phone calls to undecided voters, not to mention additional hours trying to "educate" a host of my fellow Indians around the country and the world, a SNOWBALL HAD MORE CHANCE IN HELL on election night than John Kerry to win in Ohio, as well as in Nevada, NM and Iowa. Kerry joined the hapless Richard Nixon, who had the grace and dignity to not challenge all the dead people who voted for his hated rival, the original JFK, in Illinois in 1960 to save the country from any further political trauma. The reasons I was terrified of a Kerry victory included a) the embarrassment of having two lawyers as president and vice-president, with NO executive experience and NO legislative achievements. What on earth were the Democrats thinking? b) the devastating effect a Kerry presidency would have had on India because of his visceral opposition to free trade and outsourcing because of his total subservience to his union supporters, who don't seem to care that more jobs are created in the US from insourcing because most of these are not union jobs. c) the truth that I had finally confirmed from actual Iraqis that 90% of Iraq is experiencing unprecedented reconstruction in roads, sanitary systems, water treatment plants, schools, hospitals, etc. I am outraged that the media has hidden this from the world and from Americans. The details are on www.voicesofiraq.com. After only 20 months since the Saddam regime fell, less than 10% of Iraq remains to be pacified. It took from 4 to 7 years to complete the job in Germany and Japan after WW-II, and our troops have stayed in those countries to protect them for decades thereafter. d) a Kerry victory would have been a clear victory for Osama Bin Laden, who had endorsed him, and for worldwide Islamo-fascism, which had NOT been confronted until they overstepped their bounds on 9/11 and discovered to their dismay that President Bush was not an appeaser like his predecessor. It would also have been a victory for vicious propagandists like George Soros, who funded BushandSaudis.com and MoveOn.org and their blatant falsehoods, and Michael Moore and his blatant propaganda disguised as a documentary. e) it would have been incredibly embarrassing to have a US President who was a war hero - to the Vietcong, after 50,000 Americans lost their lives in Vietnam. Kerry has an honored place in the Ho Chi Minh War Museum, which is embarrassing enough. f) Kerry's rollbacks of tax rate cuts would have reduced revenues to the US Treasury and cost US jobs. The "rich" did not get that way by being stupid, as Clinton's "luxury tax" of a few years ago in a failed attempt to soak the rich showed everyone by devastating industries that provide luxury goods and services for the rich. g) The ideas that Kerry and Edwards had for our health care system would have made Hillary Clinton seem like a free-marketer by comparison. h) Finally, the thought of a loose cannon, self-serving, hypochondriac like Teresa Heinz-Kerry as First Lady made my skin crawl when compared with the lovely and gracious Laura Bush. The flip side to this is the inevitable re-ascendancy of Clinton & Clinton who will become mythological figures within the Democrat party after this year's debacle. The fun part for us Republicans will be the "un-civil war" that
Re: [Goanet]The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also urge all readers to boycott the blatant > political propaganda being spread by the George Soros > funded MoveOn.org, The Media Fund, the Hollywood > elite and the deliberate falsehoods of Michael Moore. > These people do not engage in honest debate but in > blatant propaganda, and it is high time they were > marginalized. I am still waiting to hear what are the "deliberate falsehoods" being talked about here. Please clarify with examples. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > President George W. Bush, the "dummy", "cowboy"and > "liar" of mean-spirited Democrat mythology, has just > won 51% of the vote. > Even though I thought initially that this was an election that was legitimately won by Bush, it now appears that there is growing doubt about the voting procedures and the actual vote counts. Unbiased political scientists are analyzing the vote tallies as we speak to find out if things make sense. Rest assured in a couple of months we will have an answer one way or the other. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > President George W. Bush, the "dummy", "cowboy"and > "liar" of mean-spirited Democrat mythology, has just > won 51% of the vote. For those of you who doubt the > breadth of President Bush's support please take a > look at the breakdown of his support BY COUNTY, > available on www.hannity.com among other sources. > It's not Blue States versus Red States, folks. > It's major urban centers versus the rest of > America. President Bush won in 3,000 out of > our country's 3,500 counties. Mario, Those pushing for Canada to accept the Americans from "Blue" states, ALWAYS point out that these Americans are the more educated and progressive components of the US population. Mervyn2.0 For the Americans who have decided to stay put and fight, here is some info: American Civil Liberties Union Renewing Our Defense of Liberty http://www.aclu.org/L/www.CivilLibertiesNow.org/index.cfm?MX=1697&H=0 ** Dear Friend, The re-election of George W. Bush, whose administration has shown a profound disregard for fundamental rights, means our work is now more essential than ever. The fact is, without a vigorous, spirited movement for freedom, their unrelenting assault on civil liberties could change the face of our democracy. With you at our side, the ACLU is ready, willing and able to lead that movement. In the months ahead, they will come after our freedoms under cover of the war on terror. They will stage a full-court press in support of their dangerous social issues agenda. With their political opponents weakened and with the knowledge that they will never have to face the voters again, they see a golden opportunity. They won't let it go to waste. We expect them to move rapidly on everything from funding religion to escalating assaults on abortion to outlawing same-sex marriage. Over the past four years, the ACLU and its members have shown that we can be successful defending freedom even in the most inhospitable climate. We have built bipartisan support for challenging the Patriot Act and inspired a chorus of voices questioning many of its damaging provisions. We have challenged the Patriot Act in court and won. We have squelched government programs designed to spy on Americans. We have won legal victories curtailing executive power. We have defeated the first-ever federal abortion ban in court. This fight is far from over. Here at the ACLU we will continue to stand by the values of justice and liberty for all. To put it simply: We refuse to surrender our freedom. I hope you will pledge to do the same. Together we will stay the course, meet all challenges, and beat back every attempt to restrict our civil liberties. Sincerely, Anthony D. Romero Executive Director, ACLU P.S. You may have seen our full page advertisement in the New York Times today. This is just the beginning of a bold campaign to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Please go to http://www.aclu.org/L/www.CivilLibertiesNow.org/index.cfm?MX=1697&H=0 to stay involved with the fight. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
[Goanet]The world dodged a bullet on Nov. 2
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Friends, it's time to pull together and move on. Kudos to John Kerry for showing some class in graciously conceding the election and disappointing a small army of lawyers. As a resident of the critical state of Ohio, I appreciated that. I now urge those 60% of my fellow Indians who dislike President Bush to stop lashing out at every little provocation and join in healing the country, starting with our own Indian community, which shares the core values of the Republicans, but "feel more comfortable" with the Democrats, whatever that means. President George W. Bush, the "dummy", "cowboy"and "liar" of mean-spirited Democrat mythology, has just won 51% of the vote. For those of you who doubt the breadth of President Bush's support please take a look at the breakdown of his support BY COUNTY, available on www.hannity.com among other sources. It's not Blue States versus Red States, folks. It's major urban centers versus the rest of America. President Bush won in 3,000 out of our country's 3,500 counties. Democrat hero, Bill Clinton, could never manage higher than 49% of the vote. In addition, the Republicans have increased their margins in the House and Senate and among state Governors. On a personal note, George W. has finally emerged from under his father's shadow in winning a second term, something very few US presidents have succeeded in achieving. I predict that Bush will now reach out to the Democrats, AS HE HAS ALWAYS DONE FROM DAY ONE, only to be repeatedly slapped in the face by the Kennedy-Gore-Dean-Daschle-Biden-Pelosi-Boxer wing of the Democrat party. It is up to the left to leave the vitriol behind and join the president in a joint attack on our common enemies abroad and our economic challenges here at home. You cannot have it both ways by continuing to castigate the president for the growing deficit yet demand social programs that will only add to the deficit. I urge all readers to go to www.voicesofiraq.com and get the DVD as see what is really going on in 90% of Iraq. You will get quite a different impression than what you see in the media, which spends 100% of its reporting on less than 10% of the situation in Iraq. And this may encourage you to appreciate what we have done for this country that had seen nothing but brutality previously. We have al Qaeda on the run even with a divided America and a divided world. Imagine what we could accomplish if we could all pull together in fighting the terrorists. Al Qaeda would have no chance. As it is, there is a very good chance that the insurgency in Iraq will see the writing on the wall and decide to join the budding democracy when they see that they cannot turn back the clock. Think about it. They have been fighting tooth and nail, as if their lives depend on it - TO AVOID A DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ! How can any rational person who appreciates freedom and democracy support such an attitude? I also urge all readers to boycott the blatant political propaganda being spread by the George Soros funded MoveOn.org, The Media Fund, the Hollywood elite and the deliberate falsehoods of Michael Moore. These people do not engage in honest debate but in blatant propaganda, and it is high time they were marginalized.