Re: [Goanet]britain and immigrants

2005-08-02 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Saw a book titled Bloody Foreigners, published in
 Britain in 2004 but reissued this year in paperback.
 I haven't read, but hope it buy it. Did anyone on 
 the goanet read it?
 
 This is the type of hysteria that white Britain
 creates and then the consequences is what we see now
 happening in that country.

 No doubt the immigrant Muslim community, and many
 others, were disturbed with Tony Blair's support to
 USA in its War Against Terror, the underlying
 problem seems immigrant distrust and frustration.
 
 The social ills of racial discrimination and
 prejudice takes its own toll. Sad but true.
 
Mario replies:
Eugene,
First of all, a book may be just the opinion of it's
author, not of all Brits, though I am well aware from
having lived there that white Brits often
indiscriminately resent the Bloody Foreigners, and
believe they have good reason to.

However, as an immigrant myself, aren't you putting
the cart before the horse?  How did white Britain
create negative consequences for itself by providing
large numbers of often hostile immigrants sanctuary in
Britain?  It seems to me they did the foreigners a
huge favor, don't you think?  To now be repaid by
what?  Suicidal bomb attacks, not against the British
government or its agencies, but against innocent
British civilians (which include foreigners) and
some innocent foreign visitors to Britain.

Besides, why were the Muslims, and many others,
disturbed by the UK's joining the US in liberating two
Muslim populations in Afghanistan and Iraq, that were
both being brutally oppressed by Muslim tyrants and
denied any semblance of freedom and democracy, while
enjoying the freedom and democracy for themselves in
Britain?

I'm sure you are aware that almost all the Muslims in
Britain came from Muslim countries that were
oppressive dictatorships.  One would think they would
rejoice in the liberation of their 50 million Muslim
brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq, and thank the Brits
and Americans for risking their lives on behalf of
Muslims in distant lands.






Re: [Goanet]britain and immigrants

2005-07-27 Thread cornel

Eugene,
Re Bloody Foreigners, I have bought a copy and read about half of the book 
so far. I think the title is unfortunate but the book is centrally about the 
contribution that foreigners have made to the UK. It is really highly 
supportive of the 'foreigner' and questions the received wisdom of the 
indigenous Briton who tends to think in terms of bloody foreigners taking 
jobs etc. The truth is that foreigners over the past centuries have helped 
keep Britain afloat and contributed significantly to its sustained 
development and this theme lies at the heart of this book.
I would strongly recommend the book as its historical research is pretty 
thorough. It is a bit of a heavyweight of a book and in hard cover when I 
bought it when it first came out. Nevertheless, it is a good read.  I hope 
to finish reading it by the end of this summer and perhaps I may have more 
to say about it then. In the meantime, I hope you will get a copy so that we 
may be able to exchange  notes.
Regarding my view of Blair's illegal and unjustified war against Iraq, and 
as a poodle of the USA, I have said much on Goanet and will not repeat this. 
80% of Britons were opposed to the start of the war. However, now we have 
one hell of a problem to sort out with many crazy religious extremists who 
are entirely indiscriminate over bombings and I doubt the various groups 
have a clear rationale for their actions except perhaps for one central 
theme i.e. their perception of the double standards of the West on many 
issues affecting/hurting them and especially, over Palestine/Israel.  Sadly 
the damage has been done, and ironically, Blair comes out as a bit of a 
statesman in this crisis in the absence of an alternative available leader 
at this juncture. It may take a long time to bring back life to normality 
and the price is likely to be high unfortunately.

Cornel DaCosta, London, UK.
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Saw a book titled Bloody Foreigners, published in
Britain in 2004 but reissued this year in paperback. I
haven't read, but hope it buy it. Did anyone on the
goanet read it?

This is the type of hysteria that white Britain
creates and then the consequences is what we see now
happening in that country.
No doubt the immigrant Muslim community, and many
others, were disturbed with Tony Blair's support to
USA in its War Against Terror, the underlying problem
seems immigrant distrust and frustration.

The social ills of racial discrimination and prejudice
takes its own toll. Sad but true.
Eugene Correia

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[Goanet]britain and immigrants

2005-07-26 Thread Eugene Correia
Saw a book titled Bloody Foreigners, published in
Britain in 2004 but reissued this year in paperback. I
haven't read, but hope it buy it. Did anyone on the
goanet read it?

This is the type of hysteria that white Britain
creates and then the consequences is what we see now
happening in that country.
No doubt the immigrant Muslim community, and many
others, were disturbed with Tony Blair's support to
USA in its War Against Terror, the underlying problem
seems immigrant distrust and frustration.

The social ills of racial discrimination and prejudice
takes its own toll. Sad but true.

Eugene Correia




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