Re: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water
On 10/10/05, Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rain is not equal to treated water - TRUE Municipal water has not flowed for three days and if there isn't any today we're going to see water tankers back on the roads. In Goa water is supplied by the Public Works Department and NOT Municipality. In some areas water was supplied 24 hours, particularly Rural Water Supply areas like Tuem in Pernem. RESPONSE: There is no City in India which gets water 24/7 please read this:- http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13958925 Also I believe there is no City in India with uninterrrupted Electricity supply; load shedding is a common issue. Gabe.
RE: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water
Rain is not equal to treated water - TRUE Municipal water has not flowed for three days and if there isn't any today we're going to see water tankers back on the roads. In Goa water is supplied by the Public Works Department and NOT Municipality. In some areas water was supplied 24 hours, particularly Rural Water Supply areas like Tuem in Pernem. It is not ONLY rain water (raw water), raw water must be harvested. Beside raw water, there must enough capacity to treat raw water. Further, there must enough capacity to store treated water. Also, there must sufficient water distribution networks capacity. And, in case of break-downs there must be inter connection of the water mains or distribution networks i.e. when Assnora Water Treatment Plant breaks down, Porvorim must be able to draw water from Opa Water Treatment Plant and vice versa. It appears that there is NO long term water distribution policy with Goa Government. Further it appears that Engineers design the systems to meet the current demands and at the same time Politicians take decisions to supply water in new areas of their constituencies without consulting the engineers. In fact, Politicians just give orders to PWD engineers. I am living in London for over 20 years and did NOT experience any Water Supply interruption not even for a single day. Just wondering when Goans will reliable 24/7 water supply? Are there any prominent Goans (NOT Politicians and also NOT engineers) having enough dedication and able to take responsibility to have long term plans for water supply, so that Goans can get non interruptive water-supply? Is it the time to privatise Water Supply in Goa? Cip UK -Original Message- Daniel F.de Souza Sent: 07 October 2005 14:18 It's not only Porvorim that is facing water shortage. The Port city of Vasco and its surrounding areas have been facing severe water shortage for the last 4 days or so. This morning the department released water for a short duration and the pressure was too low. As I write this, water has just begun to trickle down but once again there is no pressure. I understand there was some technical problems at Selaulim pumping station and pumping could not be done. But, i wonder how many days the PWD will take to fix this problem? Our administration is too busy with the IFFI once again to be bothered with more pressing public utility problems. Will someone please look into the accountability of the personnel in the PWD? Daniel - Original Message - From: Rahul Goswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:25 PM We're already seeing the first water shortages of the busy season in the Porvorim area. Municipal water has not flowed for three days and if there isn't any today we're going to see water tankers back on the roads. Contrast this with the fact that the national Met Dept has just issued its end-of-monsoon 2005 briefing which tells us that the Konkan and Goa met division has received 25% more rain than the average until end-September (their data is normal=2,781 mm; actual=3,477 mm). Rahul
Re: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water
Stopping rain from going down the drain DNA [Daily News Analysis] - India Saturday, October 08, 2005 21:33 IST See http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=4955CatID=2 More than 70% of India's population lives in rural India and the bulk depends on agriculture. Importantly, Indian villages also account for more than 75% of the country's poor. This is enough indication that if India has a vision to be a developed country anytime soon, it needs to nurture this largely agrarian economy carefully. The biggest problem that many of the agricultural communities face is water, or the lack of it; even for their basic needs. Cut to Raigad district of Maharashtra. More than 20,000 people in about 45 villages and wadis from five talukas have almost become tanker proof. Simply put, they do not have to depend on tanker water for their basic water needs throughout the year and some have enough left over for their agricultural needs too. And this situation will only improve. Reason: They are using water harvesting techniques like making ponds, cordoning springs and making bunds, trenches and plantation to harness water. Interestingly, not a single new bore-well was drilled. Only the existing ones were recharged. The project commenced five years back. By now 20 villages have become self-sufficient with their water requirements. Some of these villages have also taken to second cropping on parts of their land. With the initial few projects becoming so effective, some 25 more villages eagerly joined in to implement similar projects to eradicate water shortage. All these villages used to experience seasonal drought and had to depend on tanker water for a large part of the year. The villagers were brought together by SHARE and SCESA, NGOs that have been working together with Dr Gokhale, an environmentalist, to help these people harvest water in a scientific manner. They have used locally appropriate, innovative and environment friendly solutions which were acceptable to the villagers. The entire project has been implemented through 'Shramdan' from the villagers themselves, thus making them the owners of the project. Many experts believe that this is the model to follow pan India. And it is not only the villages that need to harvest water. In urban areas, unrestricted construction all over has left little exposed earth for water to soak in. Rainwater harvesting in urban areas essentially means collecting rainwater from the roofs of buildings and storing it underground for later use. The Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE) was using 288 tankers of water in July, August and September till last year. This year, instead of letting the rain water flow out on the roads, BSE collected it from their roof into a tank. This water was used to fulfill part of their daily requirement, cutting down their tanker water usage to 141 for the same period. The BSE is planning to implement techniques to recharge their bore-well. -- PS: If you wish to have a *Gmail* e-mail address, do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
Re: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water
... seeing the first water shortages of the busy season in the Porvorim area. Municipal water has not flowed for three days ... . Contrast ... the fact that ...l Met Dept has just issued its end-of-monsoon 2005 briefing which tells us that the Konkan and Goa met division has received 25% more rain than the average until end-September (their data is normal=2,781 mm; actual=3,477 mm). Rahul G See http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13958925 No Indian city has 24/7 water supply: WB Friday, 07 October , 2005, 18:05 New Delhi: A World Bank Report today brought out the startling fact that *no Indian city has water supply 24 hours a day seven days a week* and said it would target its assistance programmes regarding urban water supply and sanitation to a few selected projects in mega cities like Delhi, Chennai and Mumbai. ''The Bank would also provide assistance to selected reforming states with smaller urban centres, mainly with the aim of designing options that can be easily replicated,'' Smita Misra, Senior Economist, South Asia Energy Infrastructure, in the Delhi office of the World Bank told a Press Conference here. Misra and Alan R Locussol, Lead Water and Sanitation Specialists, Water and Urban, South Asian Region, were briefing on the Report: 'India - Water Supply and Sanitation'. The Report highlights that no city has water supply for 24 hours and seven days a week and lists some cities on the basis of per capita availability of water supply and the number of hours for which the supply is available. The following is data relating to per capita water supply measured in terms of litres per day (lpd) and the number of hours of supply a day (in brackets): Goa -- 341 lpd (8 hrs a day); Chandigarh 342 lpd (10 hrs a day); Mumbai -- 240 lpd (five hours a day); Delhi -- 223 lpd (4 Hrs a day); Patna -- 222 lpd (10 hrs a day), Ludhiana -- 220 (10 hrs a day); Jodhpur -- 190 lpd (2.5 hrs a day), Bisuya -- 184 lpd (ten hrs a day), Derabasi -- 173 lpd (eight hrs a day); Jaipur -- 149 lpd (three hrs a day), Ahmedbaad -- 145 lpd (2 hrs a day); Bikaner -- 133 lpd (1.5 hrs a day), Bangalore -- 123 lpd (2.5 hrs a day), Gurdaspur -- 108 lpd (ten hrs a day), Bhatinda -- 106 lpd (8 hrs a day). Bharatpur -- 105 lpd (1.5 hrs a day), Udaipur -- (80 lpd (2.5 hrs a day), and Chennai -- 32 lpd (1.5 hrs a day). Misra said in the rural sector, where the Bank is providing support through three ongoing projects and three under preparation, it would gradually move towards a sector-wide approach in states where full agreement can be reached on policies, investment plans, implementation arrangements, and monitoring and evaluation mechanisms. ''The Water and Sanitation Programme, which has a significant budget for policy dialogue for both urban and rural water supply and sanitation, should continue to disseminate best practices and to assist selected states in formulating the concept of sustainable projects and developing detailed procedures for sector reform and for the preparation of financing applications for Indian and international lending agencies and independent appraisal procedures,'' she said. The Report says in India's urban areas access to drinking water considered safe by the Government's standards rose form about 82 per cent of the population in 1991 to 90 per cent in 2001. This figure, which includes access to non-piped water, could rapidly reach 100 per cent, consistent with the aim of the Ministry of Urban Development to achieve 100 per cent coverage in 2007. But in an urban environment non-piped water may not be considered a safe source. In rural areas access to drinking water increased from about 65 per cent of the population in 1990 to about 90 per cent in 2001. ''Thus it appears likely that if India sustains investment at a level similar to that of the past decade, it could achieve 100 per cent coverage of water supply infrastructure, if not by 2007 then probably 2012,'' the report says. The rural population share with access to basic sanitation, which may have been as low as 5 per cent in 1990, rose to about 20 per cent in 2001. If it is reach 53 per cent at the end of the 12th Plan to meet the Millennium Development Goal (MDG) targets, India may be somewhat behind. Meeting the MDG target in rural areas would require investment of about Rs 37000 crore and Rs 33000 crore for the Eleventh and Twelfth Plans, and recurrent expenditures again of the same order of magnitude of about Rs 30500 crore and Rs 35500 crore respectively. -- PS: If you wish to have a *Gmail* e-mail address, do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
Re: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water
It's not only Porvorim that is facing water shortage. The Port city of Vasco and its surrounding areas have been facing severe water shortage for the last 4 days or so. This morning the department released water for a short duration and the pressure was too low. As I write this, water has just begun to trickle down but once again there is no pressure. I understand there was some technical problems at Selaulim pumping station and pumping could not be done. But, i wonder how many days the PWD will take to fix this problem? Our administration is too busy with the IFFI once again to be bothered with more pressing public utility problems. Will someone please look into the accountability of the personnel in the PWD? Daniel - Original Message - From: Rahul Goswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: [Goanet] Rain is not equal to water We're already seeing the first water shortages of the busy season in the Porvorim area. Municipal water has not flowed for three days and if there isn't any today we're going to see water tankers back on the roads. Contrast this with the fact that the national Met Dept has just issued its end-of-monsoon 2005 briefing which tells us that the Konkan and Goa met division has received 25% more rain than the average until end-September (their data is normal=2,781 mm; actual=3,477 mm). Rahul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa, India : +91 9321027684 / +91 832 2417847 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 10/4/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 10/4/05
